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changing voting dates

Posted Monday, March 24, 2008, at 3:02 PM

My husband and I were listening to NPR this morning on our way to work. Besides hearing a story about how people are taking cruises to Antartica and wondering how the reporter could afford to go, then figuring out that that's what your pledge donations are paying for, in part...Anyway, we heard something about Hillary Clinton trying to get the Florida and Michigan votes to count. That's just weird to me that Florida and Michigan just changed their primary election dates. I mean, the whole viting system is confusing to begin with and they're switching dates?

When we lived in Philadelphia, I took a class called The American Presidency. It was during the 2004 elections. I was really excited because I thought I would better understand how the election process works - super delegates, electoral college, lame duck...all of it. Turns out the guy teaching the class wrote a book on lame duck presidents. The only textbook we had for that class was his lame book. I feel like I didn't really learn that much in the class, it was more about who everyone was going to vote for in the presidential election and then students fighting with the people they didn't agree with. It was weird, and bad...

So, I guess I don't really have a point, but how do you feel about states changing the dates of their primary elections?

And if you're wondering about whatever happened to the book on lame duck presidents, I gave it away to books through bars before we moved.


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I think states should have a set date to vote and must be held to it but I also think its unfair for people in Florida and Michigan who did vote to not have their votes counted . . . it wasn't their fault that the party in that state wanted to change the dates.

Oh well, I think the whole voting processing is more complicated than it needs to be.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Mon, Mar 24, 2008, at 3:12 PM

I already posted in a blog entry of my own that I think we should have a nationwide primary, or at least two or three regional primaries.

-- Posted by Jicarney on Mon, Mar 24, 2008, at 3:23 PM

I think the voters are the only one's who should be upset. Not the candidates. They both knew and agreed that they wouldn't campaign in either state. They should have made a fuss before the actual vote. Of course Obama doesn't want the votes to count, and of course Hillary does. But had he won the two states and she had lost them, the end result would be the same.

I just wished Florida and Michigan had told the PEOPLE "hey you can go vote, but we need to tell you something, it doesn't really count." Then the folks in power would have thought about their obviously irrational decision a bit more in depth.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Mon, Mar 24, 2008, at 3:47 PM

If the voters in Florida and Michigan didn't know that their votes weren't going to count by the time they actually voted, then they don't need to be voting anyway. I live in Tennessee and knew before the primaries in those two states that their primary was just for show. The individual states don't need to tell their people that, the NEWS did.

I agree with John in that we should definitely have one (possibly two or three) primaries. This would alleviate some of the issues that they're running into now with the Democrat party. Plus, it would cut down on most of the idiotic commercials that we are forced to skip through on our DVRs during election years.

We don't need to make anything more difficult for the Florida voters...anybody remember the "hanging chads"?

-- Posted by Thom on Mon, Mar 24, 2008, at 4:50 PM

I don't understand why the people of FL and MI votes shouldn't count. They didn't make the decision to vote early they were doing as they were told.

I have heard there is a movement from the people who live in these 2 states (but it's just rumor as of now) that because the government don't think that their primary vote should count they won't be voting in the general either...this can do nothing but hurt the Democratic party.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Mon, Mar 24, 2008, at 6:16 PM

It's not that the voters didn't know their votes wouldn't count, it's that they had no say so in the states decision to move the vote up.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Mon, Mar 24, 2008, at 6:17 PM

The voting process for the President of the United States is very SIMPLE!

Read Article II, Section 1., Clause 3. of the U.S. Constitution:

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President,...

(No where does it say that your vote is counted!)

Proof: Gore/Bush election in Florida.

The Electors (Electoral Voters) had to vote a second time to cover up the election fraud by Florida Officials and the courts, both the lower state court and supreme court. Neither court was about to reveal that (your vote does not count). It only takes 270 votes to win! Officials had to invent problems of why the people's votes couldn't be "recounted" accurately, when in reality all the votes that where to be counted was the 27 electoral votes. The Officials couldn't do that right so they blamed the Floridians.

(The Answer - Floridians didn't know how to vote.)!

We are talking about people who had voted for years. This is another example of the Unique-Lies the Government tells you to cover-up their mistakes!

There are over 300 Million people in the United States. If it only takes 270 votes to win the Presidency, you are looking at 270 out of a possible 538 Electoral Votes. Wake up people

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Mon, Mar 24, 2008, at 7:15 PM

Who are you? We think entirely too much alike.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Mon, Mar 24, 2008, at 7:17 PM


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