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Interesting Media Actions
Posted Tuesday, September 9, 2008, at 3:58 PM<< Previous | Read comments | Respond | Email link | Next >>
Some rather interesting Media behaviors have arisen over the last several days. Did you know all the below?
1. New York Times raved, HIGHEST RATED CONVENTION IN HISTORY after Obama's speech. According to Nielsen Ratings the audience was 38 million. (actually 38.4 million) 2. Have you heard, Palin's speech was rated at "over 37 million" by Nielsen? Within the statistical error of the ratings. Another minor point. She was carried by only 6 networks not 10 as was Obama. 3. John McCain's acceptance speech received from Nielsen a rating reflecting a viewing audience of 38.9 million. 500,000 more than Obama. Without a single rock star. I couldn't find 2 or 3 above reported prominently in the New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, Time Magazine, Newsweek Magazine or broadcast networks ABC, CBS or NBC, but of course they are not biased. Must be just a coincidental oversight in all cases. 4. Do you remember when Obama went to 50% to 44% versus McCain, these news outlets heralded the significance of getting to 50% as no candidate had thus far reached such a level. This poll is the Gallop tracking poll. 5. Have you heard the latest? The same Gallop tracking poll of likely voters has McCain at 54%, Obama at 44%. I guess 54 is not significant enough to rant about the likely meaning of the outcome of the election, but a few days ago 50 was hugely important. 6. NBC suspended two anchors Chris Matthews and Keith Obermann from any air time until at least after the election. Could it be NBC was embarrassed by such overtly biased reporting by the two individual? Surely not. Just a few question I am having trouble rationalizing. Can you help? Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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I doubt that you will get much help Carl. I asked for clarification of a full statement regarding a quote from Obama's book Audacity of Hope. It seemed rather condemning by itself and I wanted to see the full statement before I made judgment.
No one offered to help clarify. Guess they want me to buy the book, but that isn't going to happen.
I actually agree with you for once Carl . . . there definitely has been plenty of bias reporting in the news media and coverage. Sometimes it has become almost sickening.
I have a subscription to Rolling Stones magazine and I cant count how many times they have posted Obama's picture on the cover and gushed about how much they adore him. I buy the magazine for music, not political commentary but if they are going to do that then they need to present both sides which they really don't.
I have always felt as though the news media has dictated what candidates we should nominate and vote for and that is a sad situation.
http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/09/democ...
Despite the public's thirst for stories and videos on Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, the speeches from the Democratic National Convention so far have pulled in 50% more online video views than those from the Republican National Convention.
The Democrats' convention ran Aug. 25-28, while the GOP gathering was held Sept. 1-4, and the numbers for each party from Web tracking firm Visible Measures start with the kick-off their respective events, running through Sept. 8.
That's the conclusion of a report released today by online video research firm Visible Measures.
Visible Measures said that as of Monday, the Democrats drew more than 3.7 million online views of their convention speeches, compared to 2.4 million for the Republicans. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama attracted the lion's share of views for his ticket with more than 3.3 million, while Ms. Palin lured nearly 2 million views for the Republicans.
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"5. Have you heard the latest? The same Gallop tracking poll of likely voters has McCain at 54%, Obama at 44%. I guess 54 is not significant enough to rant about the likely meaning of the outcome of the election, but a few days ago 50 was hugely important."
It is well known that this is the only poll that shows such a drastic difference, and it is also one of the only one's the poll so few people... Compare it to the other polls that have them as even, or McCain with a 1-3% lead, just after his convention. Remember, there are 7+ weeks left, and Sarah's celebrity status will dissipate before Nov 4. Another thing, there is no media bias, because every major network has been competing to get interviews with Sarah...
Steve,
I responded on your blog regarding the book quote.
"John McCain's acceptance speech received from Nielsen a rating reflecting a viewing audience of 38.9 million. 500,000 more than Obama. Without a single rock star."
I think he got a little help from the NFL on NBC. Audiences watching the opening game of the season were fed directly into Mccain's RNC address.
Why was an image of Walter Reed Middle School used as a backdrop for Mccain's speech?
If you really want serious/diversified news, the first thing you have to do is turn off your tv, look for independent sources, and research what they present as "fact" Media ownership is down to about 5 corporations/conglomerates now so a lot of what you see, hear, and read - or "don't" for that matter is controlled by a smaller group of people. It is possible to find out more about what is going on in our own country by reading the Asia Times than USA Today. Accurate information is out there - but you really have to make more of an effort to find it.
I read your post Richard and the quote I had been sent would have been improper to post. It had been manipulated. Thanks.
GeeWoman, the quest for facts IS truly tough. Even when they state it is FACT, I do not feel comfortable believing because another network gave the FACTS a few minutes before and they were slanted another way.
I guess we just have to interpret the info to the best of our ability.
Richard . . . the whole argument for the NFL helping McCain's numbers on Thursday night because not everyone was watching NBC (NBC could only wish that was the cause). I actually watched the coverage on CBS and there were other stations that broadcasted the speech including ABC but yet they competed with Obama's numbers but with a couple of fewer networks broadcasting it and also with the distraction of Hurricane Gustav which Obama didn't have during his convention week. So that whole argument is not really valid.
And anyone that believes there has not been any bias in the news media must have been living under a rock for the past year or so. The only reason there hasn't been as much Obama coverage the past week or two is because Palin has stolen some of his thunder which worries his campaign. Also, I would expect Obama's number to be higher online since he has done more campaigning online than McCain has . . . that only makes sense. That doesn't truly measure the state of the race.
Steve . . . I have been reading news from various countries and it is amazing how much stuff that happens here in the USA that never gets reported in our own news media. Many times you can read in British news things that have happened here that you thought would be news worthy but yet you never hear about it.
It is kind of sad that it happens that way.
Dear Mr. McClanahan:
Now you have really done it - gone and attacked the news media - the very people who work so fervently to educate us as to whom we should select as our leaders! These good people work day and night to bring us their facts. They spend unlimited amounts of money in order that the people may see the light and, here you are sublimely berating them as biased and overseeing.
Let me give you an example as to just how far these fine journalists will travel to bring you the 'truth'.
On monday morning, September 08, 2008 at precisely seven a.m., ABC's Good Morning America opened with the "Big" news that a weekend poll had pronounced Senator John McCain a seven point leader over Senator Barack Obama.
Immediately Diane Sawyer asked, "How could this be?" and, went directly to Senator Obama. After several minutes of explanation by the good Senator, everyone watching knew what had happened.
He explained the phenomenon eloquently and to the satisfaction of all the hard striving reporters at ABC news.
Now, Mr. McClanahan, please tell us what could be fairer than that. Discovering a bogus poll and then have a U.S. Senator, and by the way, one who is running for the Presidency of the United States, educate us as to the falacies of these unscruptulous pollsters. Folks should tune in more often, these news gatherors can keep you up-to-date.
And if you think for one small minute, Mr. McClanahan, that these fine folks at ABC news are not there except for the service to their viewers, well, you should know to what extent (and expense) they then traveled to bring us the 'truth'.
ABC news took their own poll during the daylight hours of September 08, 2008 and, announced at 5:30 p.m. on ABC news "World News Tonight" that Senator Barack Obama had indeed taken a one point lead over Senator John McCain. And you try and tell us the news media is biased? Who else do you know that would spend untold millions of dollars to commission a ten hour poll in order to bring us the 'truth'?
Garhawk . . . you actually believe what you just wrote? LOL!
Everyone knows that the news media is out to make money . . . whether it be Fox News or CNN or ABC. They are a company and as a business, it is their intention to make a profit and if that means manipulate the news to increase their revenue then they more and likely will.
Sorry dude, but this is 2008 and not 1950.
Actually garhawk's post sounded like sarcasm to me but then again maybe I was just reading it that way.
I think its hilarious to watch the left media sit back and throw a pity party about Sarah Palin, because this little woman from Podunk has shut Obama down. It goes to show that the majority of the people are looking for a Conservative leader. Not necessarally Republican or Democrat, just conservative with some values. It is funny to watch the media try to dig up dirt on her though. (Im still not voting McCain though, before the crazies come out)
What is more ironic is the bias of this very post?
While one poll shows McCain with a 10% point lead over Obama just after the Convention, the majority show them in a dead heat... YET, where is the mention of those? Fair and balanced? Or distorted and unbalanced?
Also, a big difference between the Obama speech and McCain's... Was Obama's speech broadcast on the Nasvhille market's local media outlets? I don't remember that being the case.. However, McCain's speech was carried on our local ABC (Channel 2), NBC (Channel 4), and CBS (Channel 5)... Meanwhile, I never saw Obama's speech broadcast on local market television, with the exception of PBS.
So, as you can see, one bias or another makes no difference, it is still bias.
So you dont believe there is any bias in the media? I know that Fox news leans to the right, whats the big deal. People are tired of the other outlets leaning left. BTW, I would be curious of the ratings of the major news outlets.
That is so weird . . . I know I watched Obama's speech on CBS. Evidently someone didnt even turn on their television and look.
That is so weird . . . I know I watched Obama's speech on CBS. Evidently someone didnt even turn on their television and look.
-- Posted by jaxspike on Wed, Sep 10, 2008, at 10:11 AM
Maybe that would be you. Lol. After all you said you heard more answers from Sarah Palin than Obama, yet I didn't hear a thing involving answers from her speech.. Just attack dog, or shall I say Pit Bull?
So you dont believe there is any bias in the media? I know that Fox news leans to the right, whats the big deal. People are tired of the other outlets leaning left. BTW, I would be curious of the ratings of the major news outlets.
-- Posted by greasemonkey on Wed, Sep 10, 2008, at 9:49 AM
Isn't this "left" media the exact same media that helped Bush sell the 100% false war? Isn't it the same media that hardly questioned the accuracy of the 2000 election? Wasn't it the same media that showed those images from 9/11 over and over and over again for a year, just to engrain in our heads we should start a war. Isn't it the same media that for years never mentioned the subprime loan mess, the WallStreet mess, and the Fraudelent Oil speculation? At one point in time, the same media that you now consider "left" never questioned ANYTHING the "Right" did... now, just because they have the audacity to investigate and see things in freshly different perspective they are considered liberal. Considering the definition of liberal, they have nothing to be ashamed of.
In response to the Republican attacks on Obama being a Community Organizer and labeling him as "The One" or "Obamassiah" this was the best response given about Sarah Palin's experience as a governor: "Pontius Pilate was a governor"- Rep Steve Cohen. LOL... Oh so true!
"John McCain says that he is going to tell all those lobbyists in Washington that their days of running Washington are over, which sounds pretty good until you discover that seven of his top campaign managers and officials are -- guess what? -- former corporate lobbyists," Obama said recently in Flint, Michigan.
It's true: Seven top McCain officials were lobbyists, though the campaign stresses that none is currently registered to lobby Congress:
* One: Campaign manager Rick Davis is a major telecommunications lobbyist.
* Two: Senior foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann recently faced scrutiny over his foreign lobbying on behalf of the Republic of Georgia, which has been embroiled in a military conflict with Russia.
* Three: Senior adviser Charlie Black was a foreign lobbyist for dictators in Zaire and Angola in the 1980s, fodder for the liberal group MoveOn.org.
* Four: Frank Donatelli, the Republican National Committee's liaison to the McCain campaign, has had clients including Exxon Mobil.
* Five: Economic adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer has lobbied for corporate giants like Koch Industries.
"Both John McCain and Sarah Palin have challenged special interests, challenged their own party. That's the test of courage," Pfotenhauer has said.
* The final two lobbyists are McCain's congressional liaison, John Green, and national finance Co-chairman Wayne Berman. They both lobbied for Fannie Mae, the troubled mortgage giant.
Hmmmmmmmm
A war that the democrats signed off on.
All I heard about on the news was how the votes were not counted right in the 2000 election all day and night.
9/11 was a huge turning poing in our lives and culture, and it was the most newsworthy thing that has ever happened. Everyone wanted the guilty to pay for what they had done. People wanted to hear the stories of courage, and stories of true heroes. I dont think the media instigated the war.
All the media has done for at least 4 years, is question Pres.Bush. I hear all the time about the crazy right, or the evangelical right wing radicals. I dont really include Bush as part of the right, I have always labled him a liberal, but because he has an "R" by his name he is automatically labled conservative or right wing, undeservedly so.
The subprime loan mess wasnt newsworthy,because it hadnt caused a problem until recently. The same thing with oil speculation. Why would they report on something that hasnt caused a problem yet. Or are you saying they new for certain that gas would be this high or we would have a housing problem. I am not sure what Wall Street mess you are talking about, so I guess it must not have been reported, lol. I know that my stocks and funds are doing fine, and I am making money. So no mess for me.
My apologies jaxspike.
"Sorry dude, this is 2008 not 1950."
I must have overslept.
Bill Clinton was a governor also before becoming president . . . so when you devalue Palin's experience as a governor then you also devalue Bill Clinton and what he accomplished.
I know that my stocks and funds are doing fine, and I am making money. So no mess for me.
-- Posted by greasemonkey on Wed, Sep 10, 2008, at 12:31 PM
Hence why you are considered Republican... Just because YOU are doing fine, the news that millions of others aren't does not seem to bother you at all.
Bill Clinton was a governor also before becoming president . . . so when you devalue Palin's experience as a governor then you also devalue Bill Clinton and what he accomplished.
-- Posted by jaxspike on Wed, Sep 10, 2008, at 1:30 PM
Devalue? I never once devalued anything she's done as Governor, including asking folks to PRAY for that Alaskan pipeline, and that this war based on lies, was somehow a "task from God" but it's awfully ironic that they have the audacity to label Barack Obama as "Obamassiah" when they apparently have no clue what Jesus did...
I might pray for the Alaskan pipeline too if it meant millions and billions to the local economy and provided jobs and the way gas prices have been, I might still need to pray for it. LOL! Also, I have not heard the word "Obamassiah" come from Palin's lips but maybe someone from the staff or some rightwing blog stated it and ran with it but that happens . . . candidates cant control that most of the time. While he does sometimes make weird statements that sometimes seem in comparison to Jesus, I more or less see Obama in more of a rock star/celebrity role who loves to be seen and heard. I mean really, did he need that stadium and silly stage set to accept the nomination? NO!
In regard to weird statements, he made this statement on January 7 in Lebanon, New Hampshire . . . ."a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama."
Let's get a source..
Bill was nominated and elected after a long campaign trail by the American public....SHE was chosen by McCain after he barely knew her!!!
By the way, about her upcoming interview on ABC, why are there certain questions that they will not be allowed to ask?
how do you know he barely knew her? are you believing everything you hear? it was a six-month vetting process and they knew everything about her. it was obviously a terrific choice...polls, excitement, obama campaign panicking, her demeanor and leadership, etc. he rolled the dice for sure, but it's turning out to be a huge success. would you disagree? as for the ABC interview, what's fair is fair? the obama campaign lists several questions not to ask (regarding his college days and past relationships) when he does most interviews. of course, the biased media is in his back pocket anyway. did anyone see the o'reilly interview with obama? i thought it was fair and very interesting. it told us what we need to know about someone running president.
DoubleJ = Spin Dr.!!!!!
Disturbia,
I think you are confused. I never said I didnt care about other peoples situations. I know there are people doing worse than me right now. I also now there are people doing better than me. How does that make someone a Republican? I am not sure if you understand much about anything you talk about. That wasnt the point though. The point was that Nascarfanatic said wall street was in a mess, I was disagreeing with that point.
I wish someone would ask Obama the questions that need to be asked.
greasemonkey, I do not know what your investments are, but there are many that are growing and some are doing wonderfully. However, as you sit there watching them grow, all the while knowing that they will purchase less and less, you should really ask yourself if "making money" is the right description of the phenomenon.
memyselfi,
You are right, my investments are small and are intended for retirement. I hope by time I retire, that my money will go farther than it would now. I hope the economy will pick up speed and govt spending will slow down. I hope we still have a free country and I dont have to give my life savings up for people who didnt save for their retirement. I hope to retire early and will if I save smart, but the tax hit I will take may prevent me from doing so.
Is it bias reporting when a candidate says something yet it is pushed under the rug as a slip of the tongue? How many slip ups are you allowed before anyone actually listens?
As I have said many times I am not a McCain Fan and definitely not an Obama Fan either.
I still believe Obama has not been entirely truthful with America.
His slips of the tongue really bother me more and more his latest slip in his interview with George Stephanopoulos is a puzzling slip, Obama stated "my Muslim faith." Obama was outlining his Christianity but accidentally said, "my Muslim faith."
One must ask themselves "How many times have you slipped and called yourself a Jew or Amish when in fact you were never either one?"
Of course the Obama campaign says it was a slip suggesting he has been called Muslim so much that it was just on his mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008...
I guess everyone should ask themselves if it would be important to them either way if Obama was in fact a Muslim or not. If it's not important to you then by all means vote for Obama.
But I think America deserves to know the truth before making any decision.
I find it strange that it seems perfectly ok to dig every dirty little secret under every rock about Palin and bring it into the media but when any dirt is uncovered about Obama you are a bigot or a racist.
For someone who does not want the race card played it sure seems to come up a lot!!
Nascar......Anyone with walking around sense knows that various polls can be slanted due to the way questions are asked and/or the demographics considered for any given poll. That's the very reason I cited the exact same poll. By the way, Obama was ahead with 50% in June on this poll. Had nothing to do with the convention.
Garhawk......Welcome to the 50's. I remember them well.
Dianatn . . . what you said was exactly right. What is good for the goose is also good for the gander. Obama has limited questioned to be asked in many interviews and even Obama's wife had several questions that could not be asked when she was interviewed on "The View" but yet Cindy McCain didn't ask for such treatment.
I watched that Obama interview with George Stephanopoulos and I was shocked at how many times he would back track on what he said or stumble in his wording as if he wasn't for sure about the right answer . . . its easy to deliver a prepared speech about dreams and hopes but when it comes to answering the real questions, he stumbles and falls. That is what I don't like about him and even though I do not like McCain, at least I know what comes out of his mouth he believes in 100% whether it is right or wrong in my opinion. That doesn't mean he will automatically get my vote.
They both have until the first week of November to change my mind about who to vote for but Obama is showing less promise to me than McCain is and that is saying a lot.
I have been listening to stories all day about the Dems making comparisons and references to Christianity....in public no less...and it has made me wonder. Does this mean it is socially acceptable to speak of/practice freedom of religion instead of freedom from (the Christian) religion in public again?
They both have until the first week of November to change my mind about who to vote for but Obama is showing less promise to me than McCain is and that is saying a lot.
-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, Sep 11, 2008, at 1:58 PM
You've been saying that since he beat Hillary.. This is not surprising.
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But I think America deserves to know the truth before making any decision.
I find it strange that it seems perfectly ok to dig every dirty little secret under every rock about Palin and bring it into the media but when any dirt is uncovered about Obama you are a bigot or a racist.
For someone who does not want the race card played it sure seems to come up a lot!!
-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Sep 11, 2008, at 10:52 AM
And exactly what questions has Obama not been asked?
Disturbia
It isn't the questions that are the problem it is the answers he gives that I have a problem with.
Which, when taken out of context, you misconstrue!
Guess I should have known it was nothing Obama might have said...
So, what are you saying Disturbia . . . that I am consistent in my viewpoint?
LOL . . . I guess that is a bad thing!
So, what are you saying Disturbia . . . that I am consistent in my viewpoint?
LOL . . . I guess that is a bad thing!
-- Posted by jaxspike on Fri, Sep 12, 2008, at 7:09 AM
More like close minded.
Guess I should have known it was nothing Obama might have said...
-- Posted by Dianatn on Fri, Sep 12, 2008, at 12:00 AM
Just like Sarah didn't say Iraq was a task from God, just like Sarah didn't tell her constituents to pray for a pipeline... Just like she didn't just say last night that man has contributed to Global Warming... I mean, we can go on and on about what was said, and what was implied, can't we?
Isn't it quite odd that she is suddenly a "Change" agent, yet her staff consists of at least 6 Bush veterans.. The same folks who helped spread fear and hate from 2000-2008... What a refreshing viewpoint!
Actually I am more open minded than you are Disturbia . . I am not following typical party lines and looking at just one side which you definitely are doing whether you admit it or not.
I am not spellbound by eloquent speeches and pretty words . . . I am looking at the real issues and policies.
That close mindedness only applies to people who dont want to vote for Obama, right?
Also, I find it truly ignorant and stupid that anyone would assume that if someone doesn't like Obama then they must love McCain and support the Republican. That is definitely narrow minded politics and the typical party line stance.
I am sorry if I need more tangible evidence from a candidate other than their spoken words of hopes and dreams or promise of change that are dressed up with decorative terminology in hopes of luring people away from real answers. We all need to start demanding more from our government and the candidates because we have been settling for less for many years now.
It seems as if when we say we are independant voters, we are automatically placed in a certain party. Last I knew independent ment just that independant. I have voted both parties in the same election and depending on the election and who is running voted a single party. I have been forced to make that decision in several primaries, since the state of TN requires you to pick a party.
Any drilling for oil in any place will contribute to Global Warming. You might want to check out who is actually doing the drilling in the gulf. Would it be China? They have been drilling in our back yards for years and then selling it back to us.
Give me a Break here you can not have it both ways we either have to start drilling for new oil or continue to be dependant on other countries selling us oil at outrageous prices.
Yes it is a risk of Global Warming.. but so is your Arab oil.
Global warming effects the entire earth not just the one place where the drilling occurs.
In other words just because we are not drilling for new oil does not mean every country in the world is not still drilling. But yet we pay their extreme prices and still we get the effects of Global Warming just as they do!!!
Obama talks of doing away with our dependency on oil products. Just how do we intend on doing that?
Do you have enough money to trash your gas guzzling car for a new $40,000 -$60,000 model?
Do you have enough money to change your heating and cooling systems in your home to one who does not use our oil resources?
Do you believe for one minute that Obama can change our dependency on oil? If you do I have some Ocean front property on North Main Street I think you may be interested in.
Don't get me wrong here I wish there was someway to change the entire earth and save the planet from drilling but I am sorry to say it will not happen in your lifetime nor mine infact it will not happen in anyone's lifetime that is alive today.
In the meantime you can either cry about Global Warming or cry about drilling in the US. Either way Global Warming effects will continue through the rest of the world's drilling and you will continue to be a slave to their products.
My Concerns with Obama, would be Government spending happy. He stated a means of creating new jobs through Govt. spending programs with Richard Stengal and Judy Woodruff either last night or the night before. Will this place us in more dept or take away more of our rights, as in govt. control? What kind of things will come about if we use the Govt. funds in excess? Are these jobs just mom and pop jobs, that will probably only last a year or two and then shut down? How many people are going to profit and make a living off of that? I would like our higher paying jobs to come back and stay in America, and quit going over seas. I would like America to do Less trading with other countries and be more creative with America using Americas products and resources. I would also like to see a law of taxing income made in America, being sent to other countries if it is not already done. I worry about laws being passed to benefit some that could take away from or change things for others. I worry about Obama being naive with our enemies thinking their will be peace amongst us.
With McCain I worry about more taxes being place on middle and lower income families, and more tax breaks for higher income families. More profiting for High profit Corporations and more jobs being sent overseas for cheaper labor. I worry about McCain being War Happy, and getting into wars that don't concern or threaten the USA, and lots and lots of spending on wars and the military. Possible Drafting of young boys and girls that wish not to join the military. And more of the Bush ran tactics with higher gas prices, mortgage loss, job loss, Rights loss, insecurity or terroists, and more illegals or refugees living off of welfare that tax payers pay.
I am curious. I see a lot of back and forth over each candidate over "the issues", this one says "this" this one says "that". Since all of the candidates are actually sitting elected officials, how many of you have visited a .gov web site and taken a look at their legitimate voting records instead of taking what you read/see/hear in the media as the given truth?
Also, about drilling - I think we better do anything we can anyway we can as quickly as we can to develop "any" form of energy there is. Chavez has expelled our ambassador - we get about 30% of our oil from them. Although I have already seen an article or two in the mainstream media about them not being able to "afford" to cut us off - that isn't true because they could sell all that oil to China or other emerging markets with a snap of their fingers.
World events are steering towards a path that will leave you worried about how you are going to heat your homes in the dead of winter - forget about how much it will cost to drive your car.
I work with News data everyday. Some of the publications I maintain are industry specific/regulatory in nature (I'm sorry I cannot quote sources here - I am required to sign confidentiality agreements as a condition of my employment).
One of the little secrets that our government does not publicize is that they aren't just worried over the "price" of oil - they are worried "enough" to discuss the future lack of availability of it at "any" price - so no matter what your opinion is - "you" had better be thinking along those lines "too" because I'm not just talking about conserving by wearing an extra sweater and turning your thermostat down. Weather you believe in "global warming" or not -how important is it to you to keep your kids from freezing to death?
Obama talks of doing away with our dependency on oil products. Just how do we intend on doing that? -- Posted by Dianatn on Fri, Sep 12, 2008, at 10:48 AM
Not sure of his attempts, probably using another source of product though I amagine.
I myself believe it can be limited with the use of other means. But it would have to be a tremendous change on Americas daily life-style. Sort of like stepping back into time. America does not get enough of excersize some say, but if all cities would arrange their streets for more people to use walking, bicycling, even horses as a means of transportation; as well as make sure their are stores, schools, and business of service evenly placed through out the city to serve each area. Perhaps an invention of a "Bicmobile" something structured that will carry five people or so in it. That uses air like a vacuum suction, solar stored and charged from the sun during the day, or some type of electronic means. Of Course the speed of this vehicle would be limited to the speed of someone riding a bike, but it may eliminate alot of high speed accidents.
As far as traveling by ground or air to another city, state etc. that will probably be the only need for the use of oil. Solar and Electric Heat and Air, wood burning, or wind mills. Everyone will have to kind of step back in the past, slow down, and adjust to a new way of living as back in the old days. It would probably save alot of money. Just a thought.
I realize there are alternatives to oil products but at what cost to the consumers in times where people are having a hard time feeding their families?
Mom - one of the best ways to combat a lot of your concerns is to take a minute every time you go shopping and think clearly about where your money will actually end up. Read the tags, labels, etc and if it is made "elsewhere" - seek an alternative.
I really laughed at the "stimulus" checks the government sent out. If you spent them the way they directed us to - who really benefited - the American economy - or the foreign manufactuers who actually provide the jobs to produce what we bought?
Stop supporting companies that want to carry the "image" of an American company but are actually conducting their business and/or off-shoring their profits to foreign soil. If you aren't sure - write/call them and ask where their product is made - especially if the only information they provide is "distributed" in the U.S.A. This is a code for they want you to "buy" their product but they don't want to support your abiltity to have the means to purchase their product.
If they present the image of an "American" company - point blank ask them how many employees they have and what percentage of them are employed in positions here in the U.S. in a NON-SALES related capacity. Some of this information can be found by going to their website and looking at their public annual reports.
I started doing this when I considered buying a American Girl doll for my nieces new baby. I went to their website and found it curious that they really hyped how their dolls were "distributed" right out of WI here in the U.S. - but - NO information about where they are manufactured. So - I wrote and asked them. Of course I got a response that was designed to reassure me about their safety standards in the manufactuing process while they admitted their dolls are manufactured in southeast Asia.
It just didn't sit right with me that they are trading off on the image of "American" Girl and the stories of "American" history but "producing" anything but. Then I thought about how one of the excuses for offshoring is "cheap" goods. Those dolls cost $80 and by the time you get the "acessories" - what you are laying out is anything "but" cheap!
So I wrote them back and thanked them politely for their reassurance but that my concerns were more about spending my money in a way that would benefit American employees working in America to support their American families and American communities with more than spending their American dollars.
Ever since - I try to spend my money in ways that will eliminate or at least minimize every cent that benefits any economy but our own.
I had a similar experience except in a different country. I was on a mission trip in Mexico and wanted to buy something authentic mexican and everything I picked up said "Made in China". I found out the Mexican govt. and Chinese govt. had made a trade agreement and many of Mexico's good come from China. I can buy both countries products here in the states, but it would have been nice to buy a countries authenic products in that country.
It would be nice if when we went to the stores in America we could buy authentic "Made in America" that were actually manufactured here.
It is sad to say but you may be hard pressed to find much of anything that is fully "Made In America" anymore.
I wonder why this is? Do you think we Americans have cut our noses off to spite our faces, so to speak. We have demanded more and more money and benefits some even going to Union wages that we drove the prices to an extreme where businesses searcbed for cheap labor in order to sell their products and actually make a profit.
In the end either way American's lose, we either have Businesses paying high wages and passing this cost to the consumers or the business gets fed-up with the cost and moves to cheaper wages.
I am not spellbound by eloquent speeches and pretty words . . . I am looking at the real issues and policies.
-- Posted by jaxspike on Fri, Sep 12, 2008, at 10:05 AM
Which of course.. you never mention. Exactly what policies and issues are you in disagreement with Obama on and/or agreement with McCain?