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BipartisanshipPosted Thursday, September 18, 2008, at 1:02 PM
The Presidential contest contains a major mantra espoused by both sides that they can, through their unique leadership abilities, reach out to and work with those from across the aisle to reach the optimum solution for all the problems burdening our citizenry. Well, without going to Washington and finding one candidate who says he will and one candidate who clearly has, we have only to look here in Tennessee for a fine example of punishment and arrogance when an office holder actually works with those across the aisle.
In the 22nd senatorial district, primarily Montgomery County, (Clarksville) and two others, the overt and despicable action of nullifying an open election and taking the elected winner, an incumbent Senator, and replacing her with the loser took place over the last few days. The party, Democratic. The sin, voting with the Republicans for Speaker. This hubristic attitude and action took place in the face of the fact the longtime Democratic Speaker of the Senate was elected by aid of Republican Senators who put the welfare, efficiency and effectiveness of the body above party politics. Last session without the support of Sen. Williams and Burchett, both with a (R ) attached to their names Senator Wilder, a Democrat would not have been returned to the Speaker's office. (Williams now considers himself an Independent, but voted, as did Burchett with the Republicans in the Speakers race this Session.) Make no mistake, the incumbent won by 19 votes and by Party recount not a single vote could be legally found to be amiss. So the Party clearly stated loudly and publicly, "We don't care who you voted for, we are going to name the candidate," and they did. I ask you, which Party is, by demonstration, elitist and which Party has demonstrated by their actions they are willing to work across the aisle and solve our problems in a bipartisan manner. I further suggest to you this action by the Democrats and the working relationship between the Parties by the Republicans is the United States in microcosm. Look at the life actions of the two national candidates, not the rhetoric, be honest and tell me this is not so. Comments Showing most recent comments first [Show in chronological order instead] |
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I read the article, and CNN essentially posted exact quotes from each Secretary of State. How was that article biased? The fact you didn't read it before making a conclusion, seems biased to me...
LOL . . . it is common knowledge that CNN leans more left like Fox News leans right. I wouldn't base any of my decisions off of anything either one has to say.
And yeah, you can comment on anything I say anywhere you want. Unlike some, I know no boundaries.
Nope, I actually didnt read it. My comment was to something you said in another post.
-- Posted by jaxspike on Tue, Sep 23, 2008, at 7:09 AM
You didn't read it... Yet without doing so, you labeled CNN just as biased as Fox News... when in fact the article itself was truly unbiased and represented very diverse yet concurring opinions on America's image around the world, from people who know America and the world best. Hence: Bipartisanship.
So I guess I should start responding to your responses in the wrong thread? LOL.
Nope, I actually didnt read it. My comment was to something you said in another post.
Did you even read that link there buddy? It had NOTHING to do with who is rich or who is poor. Lol... It was about 5 different Secretary's of State and their opinions of America's image around the world and how to get back on track.
Darrick_04 . . . but yet 6 of the 10 richest members of Congress are Democrats and the top one being John Kerry while the parties almost split in the top 50.
So, please tell me how out of touch the Republican party is versus the Democratic Party?
And really, CNN is just as biased as Fox News . . . using them as a source is really not convincing on any argument.
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/19/fo...
Pretty much amazing, and simple suggestions.. from 5 former Secretary's of State!
Almost feels like Cheney saying he isn't of the Legislative Branch when facing charges... then when something affects him in the Executive Branch, he is part of the Legislative Branch that day...
Hmmm... Very interesting points!
Carl, you still don't want to give me an example of one elite democrat? How about one you know personally since you know several. I think that would be more appropriate since you claim this state incident is reflective of the national scope. I also asked for a Republican example. It is my belief that they exist equally in both parties, and to make a general accusation that one party is more elite than the other is simply a talking point used to divide an already deeply divided group of voters and citizens (because we, unfortunately, are not all both).
I never said the situation you mentioned - briefly - in your post was not appalling. What I do find appalling is you contributed 60 percent of your rambling on slapping this act on all who call themselves or support Democrats.
And my own bias? Which part in particular did you find the most bias? Maybe it was the fact I pointed out you always fail to mention that wrongdoing happen on both sides of the fence?
I'm sorry but I sincerely believe, you sir, are no more independent or bipartisan then the Republicans that run for office today themselves claim.
The world is smaller, people have more information at the touch of their fingertips now than they can get from reading everything in your town's public library. No one, except, people looking for an excuse to hate the opposition believe these tired accusations of acts committed by one should be reflective of the majority.
No longer are we in the days where you can call yourself one thing to mask your intentions or attempt to attach the morals and values of many to a story of injustice committed by a few.
I do apologize at the word, 'copy' in context to an AP story. The point I was trying to make was that you took a news, or news worthy, story and were using to further your own propaganda. I obviously erred in that regards. You are a fine, even eloquent writer, albeit a misguided one.
Mike_10,
Thanks for your comments, although it is difficult to see past your own biases, one of which is to propose you know me and what I think.
I suggest if you don't know the meaning of the word elitist, then I feel no need to further your vocabulary. If a small group, such as the Democratic Executive Committee in the 22nd Senatoral District, overturning a certified election, an election where the people properly spoke, does't display an attitude of superiority then I cannot imagine a better example.
Please inform me and the readers of this blog of the source you assert I copied from the AP. If you cannot, and you can't, I recommend you watch youself when you slander someone by wrongly accussing them of plagiarism which is a crime.
Perhaps you can explain to me the logic of justifying a given act or behavior by asserting someone else has, by your definition, done the same or worse. I don't understand how killing someone is somehow less serious because other people have killed someone.
By the way, I happen to know several Democratic politicians, some long time office holders, who find this act appalling.
It is amusing to see Republican's whining when things happen to them in politics that they also engage in themselves. It reminds me of those chain emails that say, 'Confirmed by Snoops', but when you go look at the website, they in fact were not.
This is the same kind of story.
Carl, you know as well as I do this is one of several types of incidents, like this, that occur in both parties. Forcing party members to vote along party lines and punishing those who don't are common place in state and national government.
They even have positions of power that enforce these practices called 'Whips' in both parties.
Both parties go to extreme unethical measures to extend and gain power. You want Republican examples. Remember the rezoning of the Texas congressional districts, Dick Cheney's, the Republican's last 'Star' VP, complete disregard for anything 'Bipartisan', and voter disenfranchising that takes place every election in heavily populated Democrat areas.
I don't bring this up to try and paint the Republicans as anymore unethical as the Democrats, but only to show your readers, since you won't, that both parties are guilty of un-American practices and are only called out on them when it suits the situation - such as a major election playing out in the background.
And Elitist? Carl, I challenge you to define this word and show me examples of them ON both sides. Then weigh out your theory to see if it holds water. I promise you it will not. There are no more, nor less, so-called, 'Elitist' on either side of the political spectrum.
To repeat buzz words, because you didn't come up this yourself, that one party is more elite than the other shows a complete disregard to audience by assuming that you simply perceive your readers are completely ignorant.
Turn off FoxNews, MSNBC, and CNN and write a blog about what you really perceive as injustices or your beliefs instead of simply copying a story off the AP wire and using it to spread your own non Bipartisan agenda.
Granted, the situation in Montgomery county is unfair and strikes us all as non-democratic, but to use an incident like this, that happens on both sides, to spread a biased opinion is the exact opposite of what the title of this blog entry suggest.
hi DoubleJ:
couldn't agree more with your response to the 'bipartanship' blog, however, "whatever happened to counting all the votes?" appears to be superflous. the problem seems to be that they did count all the votes. again, Mr. McClanahan was spot on.
great blog, carl. what happened to kurita is absolutely outragious. so what if she won by 19 votes. she won period. many others have won by less over the years. and so what if she voted for ramsey for speaker. it's her right and everyone knows deep down it was no doubt the right thing to do. wilder barely could walk, talk or carry a conversation. it was a "must time" for a change. the state democratic party will suffer bigtime for this. whatever happened to counting all the votes? i just hope kurita fights this and/or wins her write-in campaign, which i'm thinking is very possible in november.
I am bewildered by what happened with Kurita . . . I dont see what ground they had to deny the people's choice of candidate. I hope she and the voters fight this!