Debates I

But can he walk on water?

darrick_04, While I do agree that the majority of us are reactive, I believe we have been conditioned to be that way. There are a few among us that have been proactive. They are, by and large, the ones who are doing the conditioning.

Actually I never heard Obama warning any of us about the economy or the stock market crashing.

Come to think of it Ron Paul is the only person I ever heard that had predicted this and yet everyone called him a nuttjob. Hope he's sitting somewhere laughing now about who the nuttjob really is

"The fundamentals of the economy are sound."- John McCain

Sounds like someone who is ready to lead our nation!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... And you people think he won a debate? Please!

Unfortunately you have to be confrontational with anyone that you feel disagrees with your viewpoint.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Mon, Sep 29, 2008, at 3:05 PM

Doubt it.

Didn't Bush attend Yale and he cant even promounce "nuclear" right? Just because you have a degree from an Ivy League school doesnt mean you are perfect.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Mon, Sep 29, 2008, at 7:48 AM

Where was it mentioned that Obama is perfect? I can't seem to find it. I certainly don't think he, or any other human being is perfect. In fact, it took him over 19 months to get my support. If I for one second thought he was perfect, he would have been my choice from the get go. However, on many of these major issues he has been right, regardless if he was a U.S. Senator at the time, or not.

"I love how Obama pointed out that Henry Kissinger, who supports McCain, mirrored Obama's idea of diplomacy," is a statement blinded by your hatred of Bush and all things Republican that I suggested in an earlier blog. My opinion, that I believe is bolstered by this statement because it is utterly false!

-- Posted by cmcclanahan on Sun, Sep 28, 2008, at 8:35 PM

No, Kissinger is trying to backtrack on what he said about talking to our enemies. Kissinger DID say a few days earlier at a forum of former secretaries of state that he favors very high-level talks with Iran -- without conditions:

Kissinger Sept. 20: Well, I am in favor of negotiating with Iran. And one utility of negotiation is to put before Iran our vision of a Middle East, of a stable Middle East, and our notion on nuclear proliferation at a high enough level so that they have to study it. And, therefore, I actually have preferred doing it at the secretary of state level so that we -- we know we're dealing with authentic...

CNN's Frank Sesno: Put at a very high level right out of the box?

Kissinger: Initially, yes.But I do not believe that we can make conditions for the opening of negotiations.

How is this "entirely compatible" with John Mccain's position?

Didn't Bush attend Yale and he cant even promounce "nuclear" right? Just because you have a degree from an Ivy League school doesnt mean you are perfect.

It actually kinda bothered me that Obama could say it so proficiently

-- Posted by Dianatn on Sun, Sep 28, 2008, at 9:57 PM

Yeah, it should certainly bother us that a candidate actually received an amazing education... We're so used to those who haven't.

>>> . . . I wouldn't have thought twice if Obama had stumble on a name. Good grief, the name is a mouthful.

It actually kinda bothered me that Obama could say it so proficiently

Darrick……….I am aware of Palin's words in the Couric interview. I have just seen reported as fact the Fey line from SNL. So much for journalistic integrity.

As to your waiting for a blog from me "that is the least bit bipartisan," I suggest you review the archives. I do not understand your problem with understanding why a libertarian cannot be a McCain supporter. Ask Jim Tracy and Curt Cobb if I am bipartisan.

Your subjective notions of what McCain should have known is certainly a position you are entitled to, but don't make the mistake they are absolute and infallible. No one can know it all and as I have written, a real leader will find the best people to supply the information he/she themselves are less knowledgeable of. This election we have clear choice of candidates. Neither of which maybe the best representative of their party or representative of the majority of the people, but they are what we have. One has a long record of accomplishments, for good or ill, and one has a vision. Forty-six years of living, four years as a US Senator yet no significant accomplishments, just a vision. Pardon me if I think his vision is worthless rhetoric without at least attempts to act in the past.

Your statement, "I love how Obama pointed out that Henry Kissinger, who supports McCain, mirrored Obama's idea of diplomacy," is a statement blinded by your hatred of Bush and all things Republican that I suggested in an earlier blog. My opinion, that I believe is bolstered by this statement because it is utterly false! After the debate on Fri. night Dr. Kissinger released a statement. This statement as I quote was reported by Emily Sherman of CNN, that well known bastion of right wing sympathies (sic). She reported, "Kissinger defended Sen. John McCain's attack against Sen. Barack Obama for Obama's willingness to meet with the Iranian President "without preconditions.""

She cited a press release from Dr. Kissenger, "Sen. McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the presidential level. My view on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Sen. John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality." Darrick, I think your hatred is leading you to be come less thorough than you usually are. You stop your research too quickly when you find something you like. A failing we all have to a degree, but this statement re Kissinger is a tactic that is beneath you and not likely to gain you fans who believe facts are always facts and ideology cannot change them. Ideology you are certainly free to espouse as you wish, but not distort or totally misrepresent facts. I hope you will view this observation positively as that is the spirit in which it is intended.

Richard……Thanks for the comment……I think I really knew as much, but have seen many, many reports quoting Palin as having said it. So much for fair reporting.

Garhawk. Thanks for the comments……Now you have done it! You have actually made positive, absolute statements so you can now be "straightened-out"……..Welcome to the club.

Well, if you have to resort to making fun or having issue with someone stumbling over a name in which he correctly pronounced the next few times he said it then you lose all credibility in any argument you are trying to give.

Grow up people . . . comments like that just how immature you really are. No one is perfect and anyone can make a mistake while speaking . . . I wouldn't have thought twice if Obama had stumble on a name. Good grief, the name is a mouthful.

Please talk about real issues and not childish crap like that.

My first question from your comments Sir, is how do you know that Senator McCain "doesn't know the difference between the Shi'ite and Sunni tribes, Al Qaeda and the Taliban.,"?

-- Posted by garhawk on Sun, Sep 28, 2008, at 12:00 PM

--------->In the world of Youtube, look it up... When giving "speeches" to news media while on the ground in the middle east, he was corrected when placing blame on the wrong group associated with attacks... Senator Joseph Lieberman was the one who corrected him. So that is where I draw my conclusions... It has been well documented, time and time again.

Secondly, you quoted the good Senator McCain as saying "everybody do what we say, don't follow by our example attitude". You can be given credit by way of mistaking your opinion for a direct quote. However, most serious readers will find such unknowing writings to be objectionable, whether they lean right or left.

-------->Please describe to me what preconditions McCain speaks of. When using the quotes you never see the words McCain said preceding them, it is an implied method of thinking.

By the way, isn't it an amazing society where an "evil" man can "fly into this country, speak to college students, among others, and then fly right back home..."? Such freedom of speech is despised by some.

-------->It is, by the Bush administration and other when you dare question them. Explain how you put a nation on an "Axis of Evil" list and then cater to their every whim when the want to speak in your country. I wonder how much of our taxpayer dollars go to protect a man deemed "evil" by the people who accuse him of perpetrating violence and refusing to meet international sanctions. (Not that I believe he is evil, nor that I believe he is generating nuclear power for weapons. It is however, contradictory to be against him, place him on a list, and then be his best friend when he is in our country. Sort of like the relations we had with Saddam and Osama bin Laden.)

Finally, Mr. Darrick, to belittle the unfortunate experiences of crashing aircraft and, years of imprisonment by a war enemy, is prose upon which I believe you can improve. May it be suggested that you try the "Preview your comment" before your next submission?

-------> I sat in a room Friday night with a Vietnam Veteran... Who does not use that status for political gain, and who actually received three purple hearts, commanded a platoon of 300+ men, and was responsible for their fate. He served 28 years in the military and he, among thousands of veterans feel disrespected when a man lavishes in the accomplishment, while the very people who praise him felt John Kerry was pathetic, and that he didn't deserve recognition. He said "I am sick and tired of hearing these sob stories, when this man told an airplane what to do... nothing more!" The crashing 5 military planes was not unfortunate, it was proof he was only in the military because it was a generational thing, which he was expected to carry on. He was a P.O.W., which I respect and admire... maybe if Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield and the rest of the former regime had a taste of that, they would understand torture is illegal, because it goes against American and international guidelines, those who carry out such acts are guilty of war crimes. That is about the only issue I agree with Senator McCain on. I don't belittle McCain's service or his time of imprisonment, I do however object to the notion that those are the only things which make a president capable of leading a country. After all, our country can fall apart, but if the only thing our President knows is foreign policy, who is going to help US?

Dear Mr. Darrick_04:

You are correct in that Mr. McClanahan does seem to lean rightward. Some folks have commented that they have observed as much even in his stride. Oh well, maybe it was in his upbringing where truth, honesty and reason were sorely instilled or, it could have been in his life experiences and now, as an old man, they simply reflect outward. Whatever the case, he writes some quite interesting blogs which bring forth some equally interesting comments, of which yours is one.

My first question from your comments Sir, is how do you know that Senator McCain "doesn't know the difference between the Shi'ite and Sunni tribes, Al Qaeda and the Taliban.,"?

Secondly, you quoted the good Senator McCain as saying "everybody do what we say, don't follow by our example attitude". You can be given credit by way of mistaking your opinion for a direct quote. However, most serious readers will find such unknowing writings to be objectionable, whether they lean right or left.

My third comment on your comments has to do with "He (Senator McCain) couldn't even pronounce Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's name the very first time,...". For gracious sakes, Mr. Darrick, put before them in writing, my son, two grandsons, their mother and, my wife all failed in their SECOND attempts at pronouncing the fellow's name. All but two of the aforementioned have degrees in secondary education - one a Master - dummies they must be. By the way, isn't it an amazing society where an "evil" man can "fly into this country, speak to college students, among others, and then fly right back home..."? Such freedom of speech is despised by some.

Finally, Mr. Darrick, to belittle the unfortunate experiences of crashing aircraft and, years of imprisonment by a war enemy, is prose upon which I believe you can improve. May it be suggested that you try the "Preview your comment" before your next submission?

Respectfully,

Overrated staging!

Obama, clearly is no expert on foreign policy... Neither was Hillary Clinton, McCain, Huckabee, Romney, or any other person. Bush and Cheney CERTAINLY were no experts. It is when you fire those who ARE experts, and who DID tell you what you didn't want to hear, is where judgment comes into play.

Meanwhile, while we continue to only focus on OTHER countries, we can't keep our very own country together... That is where the focus should be. We all know there are departments, agencies, and other officials who do a million times more to defend and protect us than a President can do with a stroke of a pen.

I love how Obama pointed out that Henry Kissinger, who supports McCain, mirrored Obama's idea of diplomacy. Obama, certainly didn't generate all of these ideas himself. It has been made very apparent that he has had meetings with officials who understand responsible foreign policies.

The ONLY (former) candidate who has been consistently right on every major issue we are currently facing is Ron Paul. I certainly wish he would have won the Republican nomination.

Well, I am sure Palin had dealings with at least Canada on an executive level which is more than Obama. To me really, they both equal each other on foreign experience because if not so, Obama would not have chosen Biden as his running mate (it is widely known he was chosen for his foreign experience since Obama lacks any real credentials). Just like Obama, if Palin became president she would have advisors that would have plenty of foreign relationship experience just like every other president.