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Election Misc.Posted Friday, October 17, 2008, at 4:05 PM
Now we enter the last lap in all races that can and will affects us as Bedford Countians, Tennesseans and Americans as well, and in additions to some Shelbyvillians. I know it is difficult to get past the hype of many candidates but every caring citizen must try. I am going to "ramble" here on points I find fascinating, even astounding. I apologize for the lack of coherence in the following, just points I consider significant that I have mulled over for months and offer up as they occur to me.
Some points: (1) Karl Marx advocates redistribution of wealth and it is dastardly and vile. Obama espouses redistribution of the wealth, from his own mouth, and it is ingenious, even noble. (2) Obama can associate closely with the likes of Rezko, Anchi, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi and Farrakhan, some for 20+ years and it is, again, inspired, acceptable and noble. McCain associates with the President of the United States and it is reprehensible and evil! (3) Obama refuses to produce a certified birth certificate, record of his tenure on a board with Ayres, his college and law school and scholarship applications. Why is this? Should be innocent documents. I know I and everyone I know would readily produce them. (4) Obama is now running on the notion, please elect me, "I can't screw it up any worse than they did." How sad is it to have that as your mantra and expect it to be cheerfully accepted by the American people? I guess we get what we deserve. I don't know why Michelle Obama, (Robinson at the time) can join the same law firm as Bernadine Dohrn, an unrepentant terrorist to this day, in 1988, yet Obama states he has known William Ayres only casually and only recently, ("just a guy in my neighborhood"). It was while at this firm she met Obama. I'm sure the habits of most small law firm's associates as well as principals socializing was not done only in the instance of this law firm. Just one little issue we poor minions are not worthy of knowing. I think the most important issue in the Presidential campaign that is never mentioned by the Obama side, is the almost certainty of appointing at least one judge to the United States Supreme Court. There is a reasonable likelihood the next President may appoint three new Justices. If you want the Judicial branch to become a second legislative branch and abdicate it's Constitutional mandate to rule only on matters as they can determine are allowed/disallowed by the Constitution, then vote Obama and accept the societal damage the Court will likely bring for the next several decades. A few interesting quotes:
(1) "It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now….Cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus." (2) "lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased-not a reduced-flow of revenues to the federal government." (3) A tax cut means higher family income and higher business profits and to balanced federal budget. Every taxpayer and his family will have more money left over after taxes for a new car, a new home, new conveniences, education and investment. Every businessman can keep a higher percentage of his profits in his cash register or put it to work expanding or improving his business, and as the national income grows, the federal government will ultimately end up with more revenues." Sounds like Reagan's voodoo economics doesn't it? Wrong! All are by Obama's stated hero, John F. Kennedy…..(1) Nov. 20, 1962 president's news conference. (2) Jan. 17, 1963, annual budget message to the Congress. (3) Sept. 18, 1963, radio and television address to the nation on tax-reduction bill. I hope you who are students of the Presidential elections are not too elated on one side nor too much in despair on the other. I assume you know which is which. If you are not aware of the "Bradley Effect" perhaps you should look it up. Just keep in mind the polls are not what they seem and at this point are likely not even close to the actual vote. I will not take the time to educate anyone to this phenomena but will only say, those of you who vote just so you can be on the winning bandwagon, issues and character be damned, I suggest you might want to look a little deeper. As to local races for the State Houses, I really cannot imagine anyone wanting to break up the team we have now. Yes they are a team as it concerns Bedford County and the State. They don't just talk the talk, they walk the walk and demonstrate for all to see they will cross party lines in an instant to further our interests. This symbiotic relationship is all too rare in politics in today's rancorous atmosphere vis a vis partisan politics. They have, over a lengthy period of time displayed their abilities and in both cases a character embodying the traits most caring and reasonable people appreciate. Also in this election, I hold to the notion we will fare much better during redistricting if both house are of separate Parties so their re-election is even more important. Sorry about that Curt. Comments Showing most recent comments first [Show in chronological order instead] |
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He is charismatic greasemonkey which by the way unfortunately has nothing to do with his policies, theories, beliefs or programs.
Quite a shame that it exists but it is out there. Some have it and some do not.
Charisma goes a long way in Hollywood and even elections today.
That is why no one can answer your questions greasemonkey. It startles them when you ask suddenly as you do and they do not have an immediate answer.
The best answer I have seen thus far came from a person who said he was better for us because he was going to add 7 States to the country to help pay more taxes so the government could give everybody health care.
rebelrose,
Can I ask why you think he will be good for us, and I am not trying to start an argument, just curious. I cant get anyone else to tell me anything that makes sense. I was talking to my wife last nite and I cant figure out why he is appealing to anyone.
No matter what I am voting for Obama and I am proud to say it.....I believe he will be good for us all....I do not care what color his skin is or what chruch he goes to...I think he is the right man....
I was scared to go because I thought they would send me away, because everything I have been hearing about a big scary healthcare crisis they never asked for payment info until several hours later. That doesnt sound like healthcare crisis to me.
I believe we should all have to pay taxes for social programs so that if one day we wind up needing it, it's there for us.
-- Posted by tamb on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 4:08 PM
tamb,
Don't hold your breath long on that one. You might need to file with your insurance company if you hold it long enough for that to happen.
The other day I went over the bills from the time our daughter was diagnosed with Trisomy 18 in utero until she was stillborn. We had over $20,000 in medical bills. Luckily, I have good insurance. We are only going to be out of pocket for about $1500. They are allowing us to make payments on that amount so we don't have to wipe out our savings to pay it. Imagine if someone had to go through that without any kind of health insurance. $20,000 in medical bills would come close to bankrupting us.
Posted by tamb on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 4:15 PM
tamb,
The $20,000.00 in medical bills was probably negotiated down to $5,000.00 or less by the insurance company. They do not pay what we are billed. That is quite a big misconception with insurance.
Those same bills could probably have been negotiated down to $2,000.00 by yourself. With the premium you were paying and the $1,500.00 you had to pay you could have easily covered the bill with money left over.
I am not against insurance but I believe people should be made aware of how the system works. Your insurance company is not going to be out $18,500.00 as they try to make you believe.
greasemonkey,
Your answer is about right, it seems like you will get a bill from every MD in the hospital. Here's the reasons: you pay the MD that actually sees you, your primary doc., have any x-rays/EKG's?, you pay the radiologist and cardiologists, labs? pay the MD in charge of the lab. I've worked in the medical field for the last 18 years and it always amazing me where medical bills show up from. I admire the fact that your are taking the responsibility to pay the bill, many that come in "self-pay" never pay.
I dont make very much money, and my bill after about 7 doctors that I never seen or heard of sent me a bill, I guess I have to pay every dr in the building, was a little over $8k. They were very very gentle on setting up payments. They got the payments were they would fit my budget. Now the bill was about $7k more than I was expecting, and still cant understand why it is so high. The didnt fix me or tell me what was wrong with me, I knew what was wrong, but they didnt believe me.The answer I got was that I am not just paying my bill, but the bills of the illegals and the others that will not set up a simple payment plan. I can see getting overwhelmed in the event of a huge bill though.
greasemonkey, the reason so many people are complaining about healthcare is because while you can receive care at some places without insurance, many people can't afford to pay anything for their care, so they don't go to the hospital. They are honorable people who want to pay their bills, and since they can't afford to go to the hospital, they don't. They get sicker and sicker until they either die or someone forces them to go to the hospital. Then, they are bankrupt if they spend any amount of time in the hospital at all.
The other day I went over the bills from the time our daughter was diagnosed with Trisomy 18 in utero until she was stillborn. We had over $20,000 in medical bills. Luckily, I have good insurance. We are only going to be out of pocket for about $1500. They are allowing us to make payments on that amount so we don't have to wipe out our savings to pay it. Imagine if someone had to go through that without any kind of health insurance. $20,000 in medical bills would come close to bankrupting us.
I couldnt understand it, I mean I didnt ask for it, I didnt even need it, they were basically shoving it down my throat. Everyone talks about high healthcare costs, but I made payment arrangements, it was an easy deal, expensive, but easy. From what I been hearing people are dying in the streets, because you cant get any healthcare without insurance. I did with no problem. It went past just trying to get me on TNCare, they wanted me to have some foodstamps and several other programs I cant even remember. Now I know why so many are on these "entitlements" whenever they get handed out like candy. I bet I got 2 letters a week wanting me to come down and sign up. Its wild.
The problem with allowing churches to handle charity cases and letting people decide where their charity dollars will go is that not everyone attends church and not everyone donates to charity. I believe we should all have to pay taxes for social programs so that if one day we wind up needing it, it's there for us.
Parkerbrothers, One more thing. I have never been given any kind of assistance (not even grants to help me go to school; I paid for it myself by working and through scholarships). Everything I have I have worked for. I don't want to be on any kind of assistance, but you make it sound as though those of us who don't mind helping others want to receive it.
-- Posted by tamb on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 3:25 PM
tamb,
I do not condemn you for wanting to help others. I also like to help others. However, there is a difference between helping someone and enabling someone.
There is also a difference between being able to freely give as we all see fit as oppossed to the government taking as they want.
I do not need an idiot in Washington doing my discernment for me. I am quite capable of producing good decisions on my own. I can also monitor the use of any charity I produce toward anyone.
The government messed up getting in the charity business and the church has just plain messed up in becoming a business and leaving the administering of charity.
I do not know what caused what. Did the government simply pick up what the church dropped or ignored or did the church simply be obedient and set back and let the government take over what it wanted to?
everyone on assistance is not lazy I agree. It is entirely to easy to get these "handouts" though. Not long ago I had to stay overnight in the hospital, I had no insurance. I told the lady there when I was filling out my paperwork that I would be paying cash for my treatment. A day or two after I was released I start getting calls and letters saying I was denied TNcare, but I should come down and sign up for the various programs such as food stamps and there was a whole list of things for me to sign up for. I did not ask for TNCare, but yet somehow I was ran through for it. The state sent me ugly letters because they had given me an appointment to come in and sign up for these programs and I didnt show, saying I would not be eligible for further assistance because I missed the scheduled appointment, that I didnt make. It was like I was being forced to take these programs whether I asked for them or not.
-- Posted by greasemonkey on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 3:38 PM
greasemonkey,
Luckily you seen through the deception and did not fall for the free crutch. Nothing will cripple a good man faster than a government produced crutch. I admire young men as yourself than made the decision you did and went on to be a producer instead of a partaker. There is actually someone out there that may actually need the crutch you gave up noblely.
Parkerbrothers, do you know what compassion is? Not everyone who receives a handout from the government is doing so because they are lazy. People fall on hard times and may need help. What about those who are permanently disabled and have to go on assistance?
Posted by tamb on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 3:13 PM
tamb,
If you have read much at all on here you would know that my basic position could be summed up as this:
The truly needy get only 1/10th of what they should get.
The truly needy only get 1/10th of what they need because the other 9/10ths should be producers instead of takers.
In other words 9/10ths of the calves on the nipple actually have a bag under them that is capable of now producing for others. Wean them off, let them graze on a little grass and you might be suprised at the abundance they could create for the truly needy.
It is a problem that has a doubling effect. Anytime you let a producer remain or revert to a partaker you loose on two ends.
everyone on assistance is not lazy I agree. It is entirely to easy to get these "handouts" though. Not long ago I had to stay overnight in the hospital, I had no insurance. I told the lady there when I was filling out my paperwork that I would be paying cash for my treatment. A day or two after I was released I start getting calls and letters saying I was denied TNcare, but I should come down and sign up for the various programs such as food stamps and there was a whole list of things for me to sign up for. I did not ask for TNCare, but yet somehow I was ran through for it. The state sent me ugly letters because they had given me an appointment to come in and sign up for these programs and I didnt show, saying I would not be eligible for further assistance because I missed the scheduled appointment, that I didnt make. It was like I was being forced to take these programs whether I asked for them or not.
Parkerbrothers, One more thing. I have never been given any kind of assistance (not even grants to help me go to school; I paid for it myself by working and through scholarships). Everything I have I have worked for. I don't want to be on any kind of assistance, but you make it sound as though those of us who don't mind helping others want to receive it.
I enjoy my work, and I've been with the same company for nearly nine years, since I was 22. My husband works 60 hours a week for a long-time Bedford County employer. We own our own home. We pay for our insurance and our medical bills. We enjoy the things we have. We have a healthy five year old and lost a child at birth due to a chromosomal disorder.
However, we are not so blind that we don't realize that it could change in a heartbeat, and it would have if our sweet baby had lived. If she had lived, we probably would have had to have help with her care. I don't believe that anyone is more deserving of assistance than anyone else, so knowing that we probably would have had to use it makes me a little more open to the single parent who needs help or the disabled or the person who lost their job. No everyone on assistance is lazy.
Parkerbrothers, do you know what compassion is? Not everyone who receives a handout from the government is doing so because they are lazy. People fall on hard times and may need help. What about those who are permanently disabled and have to go on assistance?
What about single mothers? If they go out and work at $8 an hour, most of that will go toward daycare. Do you know how expensive daycare is? You can't leave a baby alone like you can a 13 or 14 year old. Not everyone has family to rely on either. I know your answer is to work hard and pull yourself up by the bootstraps, but you have no clue how hard that can be when everything is pointed against you. Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps takes time. It isn't something that can be done overnight. Do you think she should starve and be homeless, which would make it even harder for her to succeed?
And, no, I am not a single parent, nor have I ever been one, but I am the daughter of one. We never took any assistance, but I can remember hard times. We were lucky we had family to help. I know we would have been in terrible shape at times if it hadn't been for my granny and aunts and uncle. Because I remember being helped by them, I want to help others, so I don't mind paying taxes for welfare to help other people.
I hope you are never in a position where you need help.
livable wage
Posted by memyselfi on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 2:36 PM
memyselfi,
Divide the two words in half with a line.
Then agressively work on both.
Control what is spent to be living.
Work to increase the wage by self improvement and hard work.
That is how everybody I know did it. I know you wish there was a simplier way I could tell you but unfortunately I have only been around self made people who did both of those things. I feel it is a proven method that works better than waiting on the government milk truck to run or scratching off a lottery ticket.
You talk about the people making $10,000.00 a year. It amazes me how many of them I have to be late getting to work because of them buying lottery tickets and clogging up the lines. If someone is not going to work at least move over and let others go work to produce some more milk for the truck.
It also seems funny that a lot of them do not have the money to buy a bar of soap but have money to buy $50.00 worth of lottery tickets on Saturday morning. It ought to be a law against it.
You really just do not get it do you? The milk flows to the top. If there is a government nipple, it is squarely in the mouth of the wealthy with the poor hoping for a few spilled drops along the way.
memyselfi,
Just get up and be the best you can be everyday and realize that there is just as much nutrition in the grain as there was in the tit.
You can chew a lot of grain while bellowing for the milk on the other side of the fence. I have seen calves bellow all day and night for 3 days when they were weaned. They bellowed so much their throat got sore to the point that neither the milk nor the grain could not be swallowed.
Learn from the calf. When the milk is cut off look for the grain. The milk must be cut off at the proper time for the safety and well being of both the calf and the cow.
You might be suprised at how well some will perform when the milk is taken away from them.
Only government crutches have ruined more minds than drugs.
Just say no to the tit. There is a world of pasture to chew on if you would quit sticking your head up in the air and bellowing for milk and look at the ground in front of you full of the green stuff.
Where exactly would they go? If people are hungry and desperate, you will not see a fair market price of labor. The labor market is one in millions. Until everyone is on the same page, the workers who demand a livable wage will get absolutely no wage. It is that simple. I am quite sure those who do not earn a livable wage for their labor are fully capable of realizing this. It is a little harder to know how to rectify the situation and to legally have the ability to do so.
Until the 100 can unite with one voice, they are only one of 100.
-- Posted by memyselfi on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 12:45 PM
100 people do not need a union to tell them if they are being mistreated. If all feel they are mistreated they will unite on their own and leave with or without a union. I do not need another mommy or daddy (union) telling me when I am being mistreated. I am quite capable of reasoning for myself and think that 99% of others also have this capacity.
Do you not believe in the ability of your fellow American?
Both have pressure of course, but the employer has the advantage. Until the 100 can unite with one voice, they are only one of 100. When you take into account the reality of the market, they are 1 in millions. Even if they had the ability to unite, the employer has the right to relocate. The threat of job flight is a serious one. Most of the segment of population I am talking about live paycheck to paycheck and have no extra money to save in case they do lose their jobs. A small income is infinitely better than none, and most workers in the lower strata simply cannot afford to be without an income, even for a short time, further empowering the employer. It is a stacked deck, and as far from free market as I can imagine.
The important factor that you neglect is that other factors do influence the market and the workers have few positive factors working for them while the employers have many factors working for them.
Posted by memyselfi on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 12:09 PM
memyselfi,
It seems to me if there is one employer and 100 employees and the employer is not fair then the odds are stacked against him. Where would the employer be if all 100 honestly felt they were not being treated right and walked out the door we were talking about.
Think about it a minute. The employee only has to worry with satisfying 1. The employer has to worry about satisfying 100. Who has the most pressure.
You seem to be offering up the suggestion that everyone who is earning $10,000.00 a year should find better employment. Simple enough, I wonder why they did not think of that themselves.
-- Posted by memyselfi on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 12:09 PM
memyselfi,
Perhaps "better" and "more" should be on all our minds who are struggling.
I would think everyone one of us have thought of it. It is whether we act on the thoughts or not that seperate us.
Some get so occuppied trying to find the nipple they miss the grain.
parkerbrothers, I appreciate your dedication to free markets. Unfortunately, we do not live in that society. If you are advocating completely free markets, you are going further than even Adam Smith. A social structure of survival of the fittest would end shortly with such a large concentration of wealth; the vast majority of the population would work all day for a meal. That may sound good to you at first glance, but if that were the norm, no one would be buying anything as they would have no income. Eventually the economy would stagnate and there would be no reason to have capitol, no tax revenue, no workers and no goods or services, as no one could afford them except the few wealthy.
No the door is not locked; we do have a "right to work". We can always go to the next employer that underpays its workers, if we are lucky enough to have other jobs available. The important factor that you neglect is that other factors do influence the market and the workers have few positive factors working for them while the employers have many factors working for them.
You seem to be offering up the suggestion that everyone who is earning $10,000.00 a year should find better employment. Simple enough, I wonder why they did not think of that themselves.
Mom23......I await my lesson on my facts not being facts.
While you are waiting, you might want to bone-up on your grammar studies along with your spelling studies. In GRAMMAR DIMENTIONS: FORM, MEANING, AND USE Sec ed. by Jan Frodesen and Janet Eyring published by Heinle and Heinle, Boston 1997 you will find, concerning grammatical rules of sequences of tenses, the following,"......verb tenses don't have to be identical as long as they reflect, logically, shifts in time and meaning." Perhaps your 8 year old can explain this to you.
So unions are bad, but monopolistic protectionist subsidized businesses are good?
-- Posted by memyselfi on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 11:11 AM
memyselfi,
I just think the relationship of supply and demand should work it out naturally. If a company is not paying what the market determines is athe going rate then I think I would be looking for another job. The door any of us walk into work through remains open all day long if we choose to walk out. And yes it is a choice we can all make. It is just a shame that the nipple of the government influences many into the wrong decision.
The open market will naturally dictate what has to be paid for services and labor (if the government does not stick the nipple out).
I am just glad to be in a free country where I can go find me a better job if one exists.
Does your employer lock the door on you when you come into work.
So unions are bad, but monopolistic protectionist subsidized businesses are good?
-- Posted by memyselfi on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 11:11 AM
Lol... AMEN! Unions, by and large have good purposes, but they have become so politically correct rather than being useful. However, I DO agree with memyselfi.
So unions are bad, but monopolistic protectionist subsidized businesses are good?
parkerbrothers, The money would need to come from the top. The scenario you give just inflates the economy without creating a loss or gain for anyone. The problem is not the size of the economy, but the distribution percentages. There are many different ways to achieve what I am talking about without inflation. If you want to go into all that, we could....
Perhaps if they could legally form an effective union, or prevent the flight of our jobs and the influx of cheap labor, they would be in a better position to demand to be compensated fairly for their work.
Posted by memyselfi on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 10:54 AM
memyselfi,
Unions have nearly destroyed this country. If someone wants to join a union they ought to go for all the gusto and become members of the Soviet Union.
I do not believe that ensuring a livable wage would harm our economy, and I believe that it would actually help, providing it was not so much as to stagnate.
Posted by memyselfi on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 10:30 AM
memyselfi,
Most of the people you claim to want to help are the biggest consumers of the very products they create at their jobs. It is alsmst a no win situation for them by trying to solve the problem with an "entitled" wage. Labor is the biggest line item in most products produced.
Increase wages so they can pay more for the now higher priced products???
Now that would actually really help the other side. Double the price of the product and you double their profits. Try to understand that 15% of $1.00 = 15 cents. 15% of $2.00 = 30 cents. The higher wage will undoubtedly get passed on to the purchaser.
Nothing wrong with everyone having more money. I just think it needs to be earned through additional work. The simple act of working on Saturday is a great turn around for a lot of people. It was for me. Although I probably only earned 24.00 dollars those days it prevented me from going out and spending what I had earned Monday thru Friday. Also I was tired enough to take a day of rest instead of a day of spending on Sunday. Tremendous effect on a turn around.
parkerbrothers, Work is great. I am all for work. When everything else is equal, work will provide a livable wage, but things are not equal in our society. The worker at the lower end has very little chance to improve their wages. Perhaps if they could legally form an effective union, or prevent the flight of our jobs and the influx of cheap labor, they would be in a better position to demand to be compensated fairly for their work.
If 1 family of 4 is earning $10,000.00 that means by default another same size family is earning $390,000.00. That is a discrepancy that should be bridged to some extent.
Posted by memyselfi on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 10:30 AM
memyselfi,
Build the bridge named Work. That is what the average family that is in the latter of your statement did.
They quit whining for their foster mommy and daddy (government) to give them milk and weaned theirselves off to good old honest work.
garhawk, While it may be true that in 1910 a butler could potentially save $3100.00 and be disillusioned with the communist party, it is unlikely that same personal attendant would make the same choice today. If we were to redistribute the wealth today each average family of 4 would receive approximately: 35 acres of land, a one time buyout of $140,000.00, and best of all, their annual share of the GDP which figures to be an income of about $200,000.00. per year. These figures do not even include the withdrawal of US funds from the stock market. If we included that figure also, the numbers would easily double and could likely triple. The figures are estimated as I could not find a calculator big enough to work these numbers, but they are fairly accurate as best as I can tell.
I am not advocating that we do this. I personally think the reason the numbers are so high is a direct result of the policies we currently have. An equal distribution of wealth would have detrimental effects to the whole of our economy. I do however see the need for a better distribution of the annual incomes. If 1 family of 4 is earning $10,000.00 that means by default another same size family is earning $390,000.00. That is a discrepancy that should be bridged to some extent. I do not believe that ensuring a livable wage would harm our economy, and I believe that it would actually help, providing it was not so much as to stagnate.
".......but on the basis of your grammer skills."
Mom23....Pardon me if I can't take too seriously a grammar lesson from one who can't spell grammar. Perhaps you should ask your 8 year old.
Also please be kind enough to point out the errors in the facts as I presented them.
Carl: I know what biased newspapers do to a community. Creating polarization in a community is not a positive attribute.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081019/ap_o...
$150 million in one month! WOW....
Vindicated, interesting choice of names. Perhaps we will speak again after the election sir. You have your choices, I have mine, which is your right and mine, because as of now we still do have free speech in a free country which means sir that my opinion is just as valid as yours and only time will say who is in error.I have to hope and have to believe that we will remain so.
So God bless the USA for however long we still stand.
-- Posted by cherokee2 on Sun, Oct 19, 2008, at 2:04 AM
Exactly. But the irony is, we have become the most looked down upon developed country ever, because our bullish ways and unwillingness to "do unto others as we would have done unto thee"..
When you shout "wake up people" and doomed to repeat the past, I have to simply laugh... Because if somehow you think voting for McCain is any representation of a digression from Bush, you are wrong... So perhaps, you should wake up before suggestion anyone else go before you. The thing is, they have awakened and that is why McCain does not appeal to anyone other than his base. Absolutely nobody but the Republican base is supporting him, oh wait, the same right-wing Christian evangelical party that loves to discuss a president's sex life yet never once questions their own president's flat out lies to engage in reckless war, and the undermining of our civil liberties.
Right on Mr. McClanahan. As a wise man once said, those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it and we sure seem to have forgotten. Mr. Obama (he has not done enough in Washington to be called senator)seems to appeal to those who like something for nothing. Wake up people. He calls it SPREADING THE WEALTH. Instructs his followers to get in the face of those who disagree.His media people destroy, or try to, those who have an opposing viewpoint. Here is a newsflash for you. There are no free rides, only grandiose plans and promises, of which few are followed thru on, but if they told us the truth, none of them would ever be elected. I grew up in a period when we had bible in the schools, law protected the lawful, the lawless paid the price, abortion was a dirty word and we were a country united. But now if we havent done so, we are fast becoming a nanny state. Its gimmie, gimmie, gimmie and devil take the hindmost. In president Trumans era, he made the statement, "the buck stops here". Guess what? Now the buck doesn't have a home. Our electeds take no resposibility for anything, but promise everything. If this sounds cynical on my part, so be it. I have enough years under my belt, that I feel I've earned that right. In closing, I am an American and still proud of it. I believe in God and country and individual rights. What I earn belongs to me unless I choose to spread the wealth. So God bless the USA for however long we still stand.
Mr. McClanahan, I'm 31, so I don't know if that makes me young or not. I'm very interested in politics, and it's interesting to read the opinions of people on the local level, too.
cmcclanahan, While I am sure Kennedy did make these statements, and many others with similar meaning, I do not think it would be fair to assume relevant these quotes from 50 years ago. The tax requirements were so different then. While I cannot be certain, I would guess Kennedy would be hard pressed to accept lower tax rates than the current ones, especially in the higher brackets. I guess what I mean to imply is that: the basis at the time of the quotes must have some bearing on how the quotes should be understood.
I hate to tell everyone this but it is a blog . . . it is someone stating their opinion or belief and is not considered a news article or assumed as fact.
Everyone is entitled to their belief and opinion and stating it but really, since when did the Democratic party hate dissent so much and felt the need to silence people. This is why I do not like Obama and what direction he has taken the Democratic party that I use to support . . . people have become juvenile and hateful and feel the need to devalue anyone's belief or questions. Even Obama has stated that his supporters need to get in people's face and argue . . . I am sorry, if you can't prove your point with civility then you definitely don't need to be in my face period.
I hate to tell everyone this but it is a blog . . . it is someone stating their opinion or belief and is not considered a news article or assumed as fact.
Everyone is entitled to their belief and opinion and stating it but really, since when did the Democratic part hate dissent so much and felt the need to silence people. This why is do not like Obama and what direction he taken the Democratic party that I use to support . . . people have become juvenile and hateful and feel the need to devalue anyone's belief or questions. Even Obama has stated that his supporters need to get in people's face and argue . . . I am sorry, if you cant prove your point with civility then you definitely don't need to be in my face period.
"Anyone with walking around sense knows I am non-partisian"
Please. My 8 year old can see quite clearly that you are in the closet...as a Republican. A wolf in sheep's clothing so to speak. You pretend you're a non-partisan observer and then spew lies and hatred like the ignorant, Hannitized fool you are. The only one you're fooling is yourself.
"Karl Marx advocates redistribution of wealth and it is dastardly and vile"
Yeah, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Karl Marx is dead. He's not advocating (present tense) anything. I don't think you should stop writing for the T-G on the basis of politics, but on the basis of grammer skills.
You can disagree with the policies of Obama, but please stick to facts on your blog not baseless claims.
fairfieldtiger......Again, one who can't handle the message so he shoots the messenger. Anyone with walking around sense knows I am non-partisian. Your selective mindset has obviously not allowed you to read my blogs re Jim Tracy nor the ones addressing partisianship. If you had you might not have had trouble wrapping your feeble mind around the concept of supporting people and not parties. I usually don't feel the need to explain myself to anyone, but for you I will make an exception. Just like Mrs. Blanton, who you support, you have no trouble with cavalierly lying to one and all. The facts: I do not work for Curt Cobb. I am retired and an independent contractor who works for no one. Ask a CPA or the IRS to explain what this means to you, and take an interpretor with you since the conversation will probably be over your head.
Grit........Sorry you have not been appointed blogmaster and get to decide what the poor, poor uninformed public gets to hear. It is obvious to the most casual observer these blogs do not represent the editoral views of the Time Gazette.
Ah Disturbia.......Still at it. Sorry I didn't check with you first, but then I don't know who you are! Perhaps you should be annointed blogmaster.
Tamb......thoughtful response and I respect the respectful and classy way you present your feelings. I detect you might be a young person. If so, or not, I encourage you to stay involved and take a stand in each and every election that affects you and yours.
Garhawk....Thanks for the support.....Hope your example isn't too difficult for some to understand.
Interesting, no one mentions where I might be wrong on the points I proffered.
Dear Mr. McClanahan:
Having observed your ability to think well past the norm, it still amazes me that you continually attempt to reason with the unreasonable. May I humbly offer the following?
Sometime back in the early part of the twentieth century, a gentleman farmer employed a steady and faithful personal attendant, whom we shall reference as the 'Butler'. Every Thursday night, the Butler would prepare his employer's dinner, serve it to him earlier than normal and, take leave to his regularly scheduled Thursday evening Communist Party meeting.
One particular Thursday the employer observed that after dinner the Butler then brought him dessert and later, an after dinner brandy. Inquiring of the Butler why he was still around and not at the Communist Party meeting, the Butler replied:
"Last week, Sir, our Party leaders explained their plan to take all the money in the United States and divide it by the number of people in the Country and, that's what each one of us would get - an equal share - each of us would receive $1700. So, I've decided not to belong anymore!"
"Why are you abandoning your cause, my good man, I thought that's what you wanted - why you attended the meetings and supported the Party's platform?" replied the employer.
"But Boss, I already got $3100 saved up!"
It's interesting that the author can rail against Obama and his leftist ideals and then turn right around and continue to promote our remaining local Democrat without reservation. I've been somewhat confused by the author's stances, but I found out today why he seems so willing to trounce Obama and defend a member of Obama's party, Curt Cobb. The reason: the author works for Cobb!!! Many of you may have known this, but I just found out today. Hmmm-I was just joking the other day when I said this blog seemed like an extension of the Cobb campaign-I had no idea how right I was!
I'm only going to talk about one part of this. Have you ever served on a board with a large group of people? Do you do background checks on all of the people on that board before you join? Do you say "Oh one person on this group is a terrible person, and even though this group is doing lots of good things, I can't join because of this one person." Ayers performed his acts of terrorism 40 years ago, when Obama was eight years old. While Ayers may think he didn't do enough or isn't repentent, he has obviously led a lawful life since then and has made a difference in education in Chicago. That should count for something.
I'm supporting Obama, but even I will admit that I'm a little afraid of the Bradley affect. But, someone suggested to me today that maybe the opposite could happen, especially here in the South. Take a group of people talking, and because they are afraid of what their buddies will say, they say they aren't voting for Obama, but when they get into the booth, they'll realize that they'll benefit the most from his policies and vote for him. I hope that happens.
Bradley Effect? What about the Facebook effect? Check the numbers.
It has been time... Grumpy old man who's fellow grumpy old man is going to LOSE the election... Nothing else to do but whine and cry. He goes from writing very good blogs concerning health care and local politics to these pathetic ramblings of a mad man.
This newspaper needs to evaluate if it is worthwhile to print this type of garbage. Well thought out articles from conservative opinion writers are well worth reading - this is not one of them. This newspaper needs to clearly deliniate between Carl McClanahans opinions and the Time Gazette's. If they do not, it is time for a new newspaper in Bedford County.