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HispanicPosted Saturday, August 8, 2009, at 8:42 PM
Now that Sotomayor is on the Supreme Court maybe the main stream media will stop pandering to the Hispanic vote for Obamaites.
The true meaning of the word propaganda has been on display by the main stream media in their efforts to garner the Hispanic vote for the liberal camp. They have accomplished this by saying loud and often that Obama has appointed the first Hispanic to the Supreme Court. This statement is patently false, yes it has been so pervasive the conversative press has not researched but picked up the mantra also. A sucessful tactic employed by the author of Mein Kampf, propaganda. Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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Also just like good leftist propaganda, truth is not necessary, only a good catch phrase. Sotomayor is NOT the first hispanic justice,Benjamin Nathan Cardozo was, and he was nominated and confirmed to the court over 70 years ago....by a REPUBLICAN president!!!!
Right on! My husband and I agree with you. I'm a CHS graduate, class of 1964. When/where did you graduate? I remember enough world history to understand what you're saying. Democrats are deliberately destroying our country; We haven't seen one, well thought out, piece of legislation from the democrats. They admit they don't even read all the bills before they vote for them. They are lacking everything that constitutes professionalism. Just a bunch of puppets on Obama's strings, rubber stamping everything he says. They are all brain dead.
You are all wrong. A hispanic is someone from Spain, speaks Spanish, or comes from a country influenced by Spain, like Mexico. All of Benjamin Nathan Cardozo's grandparents were Jewish and came to the United States prior to the American Revolution. Their ancestors came from Portugal not Spain.
They were upper class New Yorkers of the Jewish faith. His father's family were Sephradic Jews who traced their lineage to Portugal, not Spain. His mother's name was Rebecca Washington Nathan - not exactly a stalwart Hispanic name.
Just like with congress, Sotomayor wins this one too.
Just like with congress, Sotomayor wins this one too.
-- Posted by harley.boy on Sat, Aug 8, 2009, at 10:44 PM
And America loses.
Amen.
jp1946.....I graduated from Shelbyville Central, Class of '57
Nathan and harleyboy you make, I think, a very basic misstep of trying to prove the media espousals by using the same media as references. This is a disingenious argument and will impress no learned person. Try going to academia before you profess to know more than we lowly folk.
First, the Oxford English Dictionary, the ten volume lexicon that is the absolute authority on words in the English language and the Merriam Webster Dictionary both define hispanic.."of or relating to the people, speech or culture of Spain and Portugal."
The United States Cemsus Bureau lists under "Other Hispanics........ Portuguese as cat. 110 and Brazilian as catagory 112.
Title 49, Sec 26.5 for the Code of Federal Regulations uses a definitions for contracting "ethnic" preference program administered by the Dept. of Transportation. "Hispanic Americans are persons of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican, Central or South Americans or other Spanish or Portuguese culture or origions, regardless of race." Note most definitions include South America. The largest and the country with the most people is Brazil, which has a culture and language of Portugal. Also these are definitions used by the Small Business Administration.
Former Congressman from Calif. Tony Coelho who was/is a Portuguese/American was a member of the Hispanic Caucus. Today Con. Dennis Cardozo from Calif. (ancestors from the Azores, a Portuguese Archipelago) is a member of the Hispanic Caucus.
Associate Justice Benjamin Cardozo's family left the Iberian Peninsula more that 350 years ago and no one in his family or other know where on the Peninsula they were from, just that the name had some history in Portugal.
The Roman's, some thousands of years ago named the Peninsula, Hispania. This is the root word for all things hispanic, and they made no distinction between Spain and Portugal.
By the way, Harley, Obama's mother's name was Stanley Ann Dunham. Perhaps you can conjure up an appropiate ethnic lineage for Barrack with that information. Also try the Mexico City phone book and see how many Cardozos you find.
I don't know why you or anyone cares what ancestry Sotomayor has. I don't. It is of no import. The point I make, the mass, mainstream media is in Obama's pocket and with every mention of her name, that have to attach a descriptive adjective so as to pander to a large voting bloc and insure they are safely aligned with Obama.
As long as we attach an ethnic adjective to anyone's name, we will never be one people. And the people who consistantly and constantly do this are not for the best interests of America, they are supportive only of the fringe elements who benefit both financially and powerwise of having various ethnic groups remain at odds with one another.
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/his...
You want to know why both conservatives and liberals are saying she is the first hispanic Supreme Court justice? Hmmm, maybe because you are wrong about the definition of hispanic.
I love the part of your comment where you pretend to be some kind of unifying force for equality. Absolutely hilarious! Thanks for the laugh.
Times change. Words evolve. I have a science book from 1939. It says that the green spot on Mars may be a large forest. Your 1972 Encyclopedia Britannica set is not up to date anymore Carl. Understand?
Merriam Webster online dictionary is pretty current.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionar...
http://pewhispanic.org/reports/report.ph...
I have read in the past that a person from Portugal considers being called Hispanic an insult.
Still up to your old tricks Nathan. Can't handle the issues so attack the messenger. I don't know why we all need any education or reference material. We can just ask you and you can make it up for us on the spot.
Pitiful.
One day people that harbor racist ideals like yourself will be a distant memory, and the world will be better because of it.
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Nathan...you are an idiot and pathetic...Now you claim an ability to subjectively pluck from some amorphous cloud passing over head all the knowledge of the universe. You cannot know how I feel about race yet you espouse crap as if you do. You, Nathan are one of the worlds little people who claim to have all the answers but know nothing but what you can conjure and shape in your incapable mind. See if you can find one black person that knows me that thinks I am a racist.....You are a perfect Obamaite..All bluster and no substance.
Have you read your own posts Carl?
At least Carl will answer questions in his blog.
Where did you read that I am obligated to answer questions?
Actually I have read that you are not supposed to answer questions!
"Missing The Point - Trolls rarely answer a direct question - they cannot, if asked to justify their twaddle - so they develop a fine line in missing the point."
http://www.flayme.com/troll/
I will debate you any time, any place, any subject.
Also, the reasons why I choose to not answer your question Mike are very practical. 1. I am under no obligation to do so first of all and 2. I have more important things to do with my time than sit and explain things you can easily Google yourself. Call names all you want, but in the end you are just trying to paint me in a poor light because you do not like my opinions, you do not like the information that I use to backup my arguments. Finally, you have a lot of nerve calling me a troll when you do not even have the courage to use your full name when commenting. That is pretty spineless in my opinion.
Funny, you just posted that you are not obligated to answer questions, and refused to answer questions asked by several posters over two days on your blog. Instead you get huffy and say "It's my blog, don't read it if you don't like it!", but now you say you will debate "anytime, anyplace".
Sure you will.
(for those who are confused where this is coming from, look at Nathan's "Love thy Neighbor" blog and see whether he was willing to debate.)
You are really talking a lot of nonsense. You must be really tired. I don't even have to acknowledge your existence "quietmike". As a matter of fact I don't think I will any longer. That was easy.
The point that the media is in love with the President is well taken. However, it is a big leap to call Codordozo a hispanic. If you go back to Adam and Eve I guess we're all related even before the Romans went to the land that is now Spain, and the sperate entity of Portugal. The Romans went to Britain too and my family hails from that island, but that doesn't make me a Latin.
As the oldest country in Europe, Portugal predates Spain by almost 450 years. They are two different cultures. People in Portugal do not speak Spanish. They speak Portuguese. Portugal was never ruled by Spain. Someone whose ancestory hails from Portugal is not hispanic.
Having a great college friend who is French-Portuguese, I learned the hard way to never confuse the Portuguese with the Spanish.
We should all go over and watch John Carney's Kenya video - good stuff.
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The above is Carl's last 5 "Hot Topic" blog entries... With 5 blogs about the color of one's skin it is apparent to me who the racist among us is.
Darrick......Same old liberal babble....If anyone questions the behavior of an African American the race card is played immediately...Typical....I wrote the re-run over two years ago and no one ever called it racist...The County Mayor is a friend of mine for nearly 40 years. Ask him if he thinks I'm a racist....It is those of your ilk who refuse to have an honest discussion about race who compound the problems and foster the notion of victimhood......Too bad Michael Jackson spent and suffered so much trying to be white...Bill Cosby had only to condemn the attire and language of blacks and he was immediately struck white by the liberal press and the Jesse Jacksons of the world.
Be careful in referring to the author of "Mein Kampf" and Obama in the same blog entry. You may end up labeled as a radical left wing extremist.
Really . . . this argument is pointless on both sides. If someone wants to consider her the first "true" Hispanic to be seated on the Supreme Court then so be it. Of course it is pandering to a certain demographic but aren't all Supreme Court nominees chosen to pander to certain group of people (liberal, conservative, pro-choice, pro-life, etc)? This is nothing new and will more and likely never change no matter what party is in office.
Oh well, I guess its better to argue over semantics then real problems like health care and the demise of America. I hate to break all your bubbles but there is actually no one true definition of what the word "Hispanic" truly encompasses . . . the experts have always disagreed on the perimeters on what makes someone Hispanic. Some include those individuals from Portuguese heritage like Hispano-Roman is used to refer to the culture and people of Hispania, ancestors of the Portuguese and Spanish peoples. Some people and agencies like the U.S. Department of Transportation define Hispanic to include, "persons of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican, Central or South American, or others Spanish or Portuguese culture or origin, regardless of race." It really just depends on how much heritage and history comes into play in how someone wants to label a group.
So in reality all of you are right and wrong.
Whether she is the first Hispanic appointed or not should make no difference...can she do an affective job in her position is all we should be considering. The rest is a mute point.
If the Obama supporters cast their vote for him simply because he is of "some" African decent and has light brown skin, then shame on you. You should be voting for him because you feel he will be a strong leader. What if Republicans begin questioning whether Obama is black enough, much as Democrats are questioning whether Benjamin Nathan Cardozo was Hispanic enough? It's almost as if the Liberal Democrats of the world are seeking to elect officials who fit the most "controversial and non-traditional" mold that they can find.