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King Barak Hussein Obama I

Posted Wednesday, September 9, 2009, at 4:21 PM

Would be King, Barack Hussein Obama, is well along in appointing his Knights of the Weird Table and soon will be able to declare himself the anointed one and assume the throne as the King of America.

Just a few of his chosen knights (czars), firstly: Harold Koh. Named legal aide in the Dept. of State. The highest ranking lawyer in the State Dept. and will advise the Secretary of State on legal matters and write all agreements and treaties entered into with other nations. Mr. Koh was dean of Yale Law School. Imagine that. He is a radical tran nationalist. He has written he believes the traditional understanding of American sovereignty and the Constitution that maintains it is not valid. He views the US as just one of 192 countries in a globalization world, subservient to transnational law. He believes democratic decision making should be replaced by a judicial oligarchy. (Ok. He's not technically a czar.)

Koh has further written he thinks it is "appropriate for the Supreme Court to construe our Constitution in the light of foreign and international law." He also believes foreign law trumps US law on issues such as the death penalty. In case you are wondering, Trans nationalism is defined as the notion American courts should honor and apply the laws of other nations in American courts.

A few more examples: Van Jones an admitted Marxist and anarchist. He signed a petition by a group that holds Geo. Bush brought down the buildings on 9/11 in order to justify a war in Iraq. Played the race card re tragic school shootings and called ALL Republicans a**holes. None of this was reported by the NY Times, Washington Post, ABC,.NBC, CBS, CNN. CNBC, MSNBC nor any other member of the mainstream, left leaning media. Only that radical, but true, FOX News. Btw, he is a Yale Law graduate.

Cass Sustein: Thinks animals should have rights including the right to sue. Has espoused the position no animal, wild or domestic, should be killed by man for food or any reason. Also supports courts imposing restrictions on speech that might hurt someone's feelings. This is aimed at bloggers and he also advocates on-line censoring in general.

John Holdren: Advocates population controls that shall include forced abortions and forced sterilization. Such sterilization to be accomplished by using drugs, surreptitiously, in the water supply. He avers there is nothing wrong nor illegal about these positions.

Mark Lloyd: Loves Caesar Chavez. Is not an advocate of free speech. Thinks government should take over media outlets. Champions the notion a planetary regime should control global economy and we should surrender national sovereignty to international police force and thinks government should dictate family size.

Here are a few of our King's best friends. How do you like them? I don't like any of them and what they stand for. Some of these mentioned were confirmed by the Senate, but without hearings. At this level confirmations are issued by the pound. Some of these report directly to the King, ergo no control by anyone.

These folks very existence in positions of power and influence is an insult to our Constitution. The clear intention of the Founders was to have the Senate "advise and consent" to anyone in the Executive who may be in a position to affect policy by regulations or otherwise. This is based on the undeniable notion the Congress is the sole policy making body in our Constitutional Democratic Republic.

I suspect the blog police will be out in their minor but shrill force trying to defend their King. I suspect we will hear about all evil and vile behaviors of all leaders back to Hannibal at least. I also bet they will not try to truthfully rebut any fact as I have stated them. Oh well. When you don't have any ammunition, I guess you have to really stretch to try to protect your idol.


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"None of this was reported by the NY Times, Washington Post, ABC,.NBC, CBS, CNN. CNBC, MSNBC nor any other member of the mainstream, left leaning media. Only that radical, but true, FOX News."

You're kidding me right? True?

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 5:25 PM

Oooh, and I thought my blogs would "stir up a hornet's nest!" It's nice to find that there are those, like myself, who aren't content with being censored.

To the best of my knowledge, Czars are a completely new part of our Executive Branch, invented by the President and/or his advisors (at least I've never heard of the existence of Czars in our administration prior to date). Was this what the Framers intended when they created the three branches of our government with all the checks and balances?

ORIGINAL COMMENT:

"None of this was reported by the NY Times, Washington Post, ABC,.NBC, CBS, CNN. CNBC, MSNBC nor any other member of the mainstream, left leaning media. Only that radical, but true, FOX News."

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 5:25 PM

RESPONSE:

Had Bush appointed thirty-one czars outside the normal Congressional approval system the MSM (mainstream media, the major TV networks and large newspapers you refer to) would have been all over it like the proverbial wet suit, declaring it an unconstitutional deposition of a legitimate government in the making. But, as of now, the MSM has imposed a "code of silence".

LMAO, gotta go grab some popcorn and sit back and watch the show start...this should be good.

-- Posted by shawna.jones on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 6:18 PM

To be fair Reagan was the first pres to appoint czars.

Every president since him had them, but, much like spending, not to the level of obama!!!

-- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 6:36 PM

i hate to break the news to you, but there is no such title as czar in the us government. it is a cutesy name the media invented, and was first applied under the administration of that screaming liberal richard nixon (energy czar william simon).

presidential advisors do not require congressional approval, and never have. bush had his own share, but nothing was made of it... because i suppose the liberal media never dreamed anyone would be so ill informed as to make a big deal out of it.

-- Posted by lazarus on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 6:39 PM

I stand corrected. Thanks lazarus.

-- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 7:10 PM

Are you sure you don't mean Hugo Chavez?

If I remember correctly, Caesar Chavez started the United Farm Workers and was a civil and labor rights activist, who did a lot good things for a lot of people.

-- Posted by cfrich on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 7:25 PM

thanks quitemike, but i sit here with egg on my face. deciding that it was awfully daring to just go by memory, i looked up the title's use in the US. it seems that the title was first used for the president of the second US bank during the andrew jackson administration, a man named nicholas biddle (no matter what anyone may say, i do NOT personally remember the jackson administration). maybe someone with more knowledge can tell me for sure, but i dont think that was a government post. i *think* i did get the 1st government "czar" correct, tho.

-- Posted by lazarus on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 8:35 PM

ORIGINAL COMMENT:

i hate to break the news to you, but there is no such title as czar in the us government. it is a cutesy name the media invented, and was first applied under the administration of that screaming liberal richard nixon (energy czar william simon).

-- Posted by lazarus on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 6:39 PM

RESPONSE:

Must be why I never heard of a Czar in US government before now. I always thought it was a title used to describe leaders in third-world countries. Admittedly, I am still young and have a lot of learning ahead of me. Thanks for clarifying that "Czars" have been used elsewhere in office...although apparently never to this extreme or I would have heard the term before.

-- Posted by shawna.jones on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 8:46 PM

Pre-exisiting jobs:

"AIDS Czar" -- Actually the Director of the Office of National AIDS Policy, created in 2001 by George W. Bush.

"Border Czar" -- Actually the Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary for International Affairs and Special Representative for Border Affairs, created in 2003 by George W. Bush.

"California Water Czar" -- Actually the Deputy Secretary of the Interior, who was given this extra portfolio by Secretary Ken Salazar in June.

"Central Region Czar" -- The Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for the "Central Region," on the Nation Security Council.

"Drug Czar" -- Actually the Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, created in 1989 by George H.W. Bush.

"Faith-Based Czar" -- Head of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, created in 2001 by George W. Bush.

"Intelligence Czar" -- This is actually the Director of National Intelligence, a position created in 2005.

"TARP Czar" -- Actually the Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Financial Stability of the United States Herb Allison, who was confirmed by the Senate in June.

"Weapons Czar" -- Not actually an executive branch position, but the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics.

New jobs held by eminent people or people previously confirmed by the Senate:

"Afghanistan Czar" -- Actually the United States Special Envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the man holding that job, Richard Holbrooke went through a Senate confirmation hearing in 1999 when he became Bill Clinton's U.N. ambassador.

"Economic Czar" -- Actually the President's Economic Recovery Board, chaired by Paul Volcker, the deeply uncontroversial former chairman of the Federal Reserve.

"Energy and Environment Czar" -- This is Carol Browner, the Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change, who was confirmed by the U.S. Senate in 1993 to run the Environmental Protection Agency under Bill Clinton.

"Guantanamo Closure Czar" -- Actually the Special Envoy to Guantanamo, Daniel Fried, who was the final Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs in the Bush administration.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 9:00 PM

Evil Monkey......I heard such reported. My research showed it was true. Until he resigned, (Jones) not a single report of his activities in the media save Fox.

Lazarus, I appreciate the information, even though you hated to. As to the media who invented the present term, czar, it was one Barak Hussein Obama who I heard with my own little ears as I viewed he as a talking head explaining his plan to appoint czars to several areas. Again thanks for your mis-information. Of the people I mentioned Sustein and Holdren were confirmed by the Senate. And I owe you another thanks for making my point that some would go back as far as Hannabal citing justification for Obama.

Cfrich.....thanks for correcting me. I assuredly meant Hugo, and I had such a problem with spelling Caesar.

Hey Shawna......welcome aboard. The ride should be interesting.

-- Posted by cmcclanahan on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 9:03 PM

Darrick.......thanks for pointing out any misstatements I made.

-- Posted by cmcclanahan on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 9:06 PM

Darrick....I have the list of all 32 at present, probably will be up to 35 when over. Are there any others you would like to know about their past lifes? By the way, I guess I have been asleep, I mistakenly always thought the Defense Department was in the Executive Branch.

-- Posted by cmcclanahan on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 9:09 PM

Shawna - I think that the term "czar" is a Russian/Soviet one, when talking about leaders of third world countries most people call them dictators (like Khadafi, Mbutu, Bongo...).

-- Posted by cfrich on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 9:16 PM

I think that no mater if they be Republican or Democrat. The position of Czar should be abolished. I didn't like it with Regan, and I don't like it now. If a person is going to be placed on the government pay-roll, and are going to be working in America's house, giving OUR President advice. Then they should have to go through the back ground check and the conformation as all cabinet officials. No difference, they can call them what they want advisors or czars, if they get my money I pay in taxes then there back grounds should be made public.

-- Posted by docudrama on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 9:29 PM

Darrick_04; It was most defiantly the Media that coined the phrase Czar for the assigned positions in the White House during Bush I's administration. He never once state that these people were Czars. If you can dig up Bush using this term, out side him referencing the media's use of the word, I will gladly retract this statement.

-- Posted by docudrama on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 9:40 PM

Uh.... I know the media labeled these people czars. So retracting a statement would be unnecessary. The media gets paid to say the most amount of things in the least amount of time. So mentioning "Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary for International Affairs and Special Representative for Border Affairs" is just overly complicated. Especially when they can just say Border Czar....

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 9:54 PM

"Must be why I never heard of a Czar in US government before now."

"it was one Barak Hussein Obama who I heard with my own little ears as I viewed he as a talking head explaining his plan to appoint czars to several areas."

as a group the presidents have tended to shy away from publicly using the term "czar". there are numerous reports of its private use. if shawna is young, she may well have not heard it used by an office holder, altho the use in the media has only expanded as far as i can tell. when it was first employed to describe nixon's "director of the Federal Energy Administration", it was supposed to indicate that the person with that title had an unusual level of power. Doonesbury (a comic strip of all things) probably did more to popularize its use than anyone. since then the use has encompassed a steadily increasing number of less and less consequential operatives. i really cant understand how anyone could have followed current affairs over the past 35-40 years without being familiar with its use.

nowhere am i defending or attacking obama. i am saying that the word czar is a non-issue.

-- Posted by lazarus on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 10:29 PM

You're absolutely correct; the use of the word is of no issue. However the position on the tax payers tab without Senate conformation is.

-- Posted by docudrama on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 11:23 PM

My if this man is in any way the voice of Bedford County no wonder this county is looked upon by outsiders as completely backwards and out of touch..........You sir are a certifiable nut case who should be medicated and locked up. Your attitude screams nothing but hate from the several different articles you claim fame to, y our mission seems only to be divide and trample people on the area.

It is plain to see you have nothing but hate and contempt for anything not radical right wing so anything you write has no value because of ithas the foundation written out of hate rather than facts and logic.

Yea nut case seems to fit fairly well, sad thing is some people are shallow and ignorant enough to think you are the Rush L. of Bedford.......... lol I'll bet you do too..................

-- Posted by LetsGetRealFolks on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 12:34 AM

LetsGetRealFolks

Lets get REAL for a minute. You liberals always like to denigrate conservatives at every turn. Problem is, as confusing at it is to you conservatives and their ways will persevere, on their own, as they have for more than 200 years in this country.

Liberals and their ideals, on the other hand, are always complaining that "life isn't fair, somebody should help me, I can't do it on my own!

So tell me which way of thinking is really faulty?

I'm beginning to see that liberals support abortion because they don't want any competition when they're whining and crying and pitching a fit.

-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 1:08 AM

ORIGINAL COMMENT:

"i really cant understand how anyone could have followed current affairs over the past 35-40 years without being familiar with its use."

-- Posted by lazarus on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 10:29 PM

RESPONSE:

I'm actually younger than the range of years you've mentioned. My earliest recollection of a president was Ronald Reagan being shot. I was in grammar school and I can remember the teacher turning the classroom TV on so we could watch. Admittedly, it is only in recent years that I have begun taking an active interest in politics and current affairs.

I used to be one of the far-left Liberals referred to herein (not hard to become Liberal minded when you are raised in a liberal state like California, and influenced by a Liberal Democrat mother and a "chained himself to a redwood tree in 1990" Third party father). Over the years into adulthood, I have slowly moved more and more to the right. I am still a registered Democrat on paper, but I no longer agree with most of what the Democratic party represents.

Most of my political opinions are based upon personal experiences with a particular subject in my own life, and thus they've made me who I am. I'm sure that's true for most who debate a matter, but I've often found that many poeple will come at others with "guns blazing" on a subject they've had no personal experience with. One cannot ever fully understand something unless he or she has experienced it to some degree.

As for the topic at hand...

ORIGINAL COMMENT--

"Shawna - I think that the term "czar" is a Russian/Soviet one, when talking about leaders of third world countries most people call them dictators (like Khadafi, Mbutu, Bongo...)."

-- Posted by cfrich on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 9:16 PM

RESPONSE:

Thanks for the info cfrich. I remember hearing the term Czar in grammar school, and now that you've mentioned it Russia comes to mind. In our country I had always heard the tag "presidential advisors" or "special advisors" rather than Czar. The Czar title used in the context of a US executive branch just seems "dictorial."

The current forms of Administrations all answer to the Congress...they report to the President but answer to Congress. They get all their funding from Congress, and Congress has the power over them. This is what the Framers intended when they created the three branches of our government with all the "checks and balances," and it has been part of our government's checks and balances for hundreds of years, and it is vital to maintaining our Country's freedom.

I've discovered after researching the matter that the power Czars have is the reason they are used. Like the president, they are part of the Executive branch, and DO NOT answer to the congress. They are not appointed by congress and go through no vetting process. They can claim executive power if they are asked to testify before congress, and they do not have to answer questions to congress, OR the American people. Obviously, they are not elected officials so the American people HAVE NO SAY in who gets the job, and neither the American people nor Congress can remove them.

With this significant entourage of Dictators...wait no that was the third-world countries...I mean Czars, the Obama administration gets to exert more executive power over other agencies of the Government. Last count Obama was up to 32 Czars. At this rate he will fulfill his promise to "save or create" 600,000 jobs this summer by appointing 600,000 Czars to his Administration.

And we used to think, "Never in America..."

-- Posted by shawna.jones on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 1:33 AM

"Lets get REAL for a minute. You liberals always like to denigrate conservatives at every turn."

Pot calling the kettle black?

-- Posted by GoTitans on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 8:11 AM

Why do we always have to resort to name calling when someone has a different opinion than our own? I hate that we have come to that but that is how polarizing politics have become lately. The people from the far left and the far right have hijacked our nation and are leading us down a road of destruction.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 8:32 AM

"I remember hearing the term Czar in grammar school, and now that you've mentioned it Russia comes to mind."

you should sue the schools that educated you! after the fall of the roman empire, people living in a world where the social and political structure was completely unstable developed a powerful nostalgia for the stability and security of the empire. (think how we hearken back to the imaginary "good old days" even today, and imagine how much stronger it was when the "good old days" really were). just as today, the passage of time made the past even sweeter, especially when the present was chaos and uncertainty. aspiring authority during these times always sought a connection to rome (and the imaginary promise of returning to the imaginary past) in an effort to validate their claim to power... holy roman empire, roman catholic church, etc. the eastern half of the empire (constantinople) outlasted the western half (rome) by some 800 years, up into the 1200's. the term czar, a variation on caesar, was meant to imply that the russian empire was the legitimate heir to the power of rome, and its leader the heir to the power of caesar.

"The Czar title used in the context of a US executive branch just seems 'dictorial.'"

it is meant to. that is why it was coined. much of the sticking power of the term has to do the ease of saying "cheese-whiz czar" compared with the tongue-twisting titles given in government, but opposition parties have always used "czar" in the desire to conjure up dictatorial images.

-- Posted by lazarus on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 9:01 AM

jaxspike, I agree 100%

-- Posted by GoTitans on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 9:15 AM

So you two are opposed to someone who is being robbed speaking out about it?

Do you oppose the blotter as well?

-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 9:19 AM

No, I have always believed in freedom of speech and people being able to voice their opinion no matter what their belief may be. Somehow we have gotten away from constructive criticism and dialogue and have resorted to shouting and calling each other names and trying to up the next person (me included). This doesn't accomplish anything and just causes us to become even more divided.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 10:25 AM

The health care debate is something that should cause division. It is a line in the sand.

Either you favor freedom and responsibility or you favor socialism and victimhood mentality.

Never the twain shall meet.

-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 11:08 AM

For the first time reading your blog, I have to say "You Are Full Of It" Your comments are so out of the park that they do not deserve the dignity of a response. Call me a former reader.

-- Posted by chs61 on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 11:33 AM

quitemike

If you can't respect anyones opinion that differs from yours, how can you expect anyone to respect yours?

-- Posted by GoTitans on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 11:33 AM

Quietmike . . . there are many people who sit on the fence when it comes to healthcare and when you have people shouting and resorting to name calling, it is safe to say that many of those individuals will run in the opposite direction. I favor personal responsibility and freedom of choice but I also believe that civil discourse will win you more fans to your cause than name calling and shouting.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 11:36 AM

Jaxspike, well said. I agree with your comment whole-heartedly. I so choose, usually, not to involve myself in these political blogs for that very reason. Because of all this political tension, we surely can't call our nation "united" anymore.

-- Posted by picaboo170 on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 12:39 PM

I sure have done a poor job shaping the debate. The term czar and/or its origins is totally immaterial. The functions of the positions and the character of those that fill the positions, however are extremely important. That is the theme of this treatis.

Letsgetrealfolks.....Thanks for showing the other side. Classic, absolutely classic. You can't handle the meat of the piece so you slay the messenger. The classic behavior of socially inept idiots! Tell us poor uninformed folk how it feels to be so cowardly as to hide in the bushes and throw rocks.

chs61.......Bye....I doubt you will be missed. Perhaps you also might inform us of what being a coward feels like.......

-- Posted by cmcclanahan on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 12:59 PM

quitemike

If you can't respect anyones opinion that differs from yours, how can you expect anyone to respect yours?

-- Posted by GoTitans

At the end of offering my opinion I don't hold out my hand expecting to get paid. The other side can't say the same.

-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 1:35 PM

Quietmike . . . there are many people who sit on the fence when it comes to healthcare and when you have people shouting and resorting to name calling, it is safe to say that many of those individuals will run in the opposite direction.

-- Posted by jaxspike

I don't believe I called anyone a name.

-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 1:44 PM

chs61 i totally agree I was thinking the exact same thing.... "hillbilly Carl who are you trying to appeal to "hillbilly's" because that's exactly what you sound like to me. I told you last year that Obama was going to win this election....and now all you do is lie, lie, lie....don't you think that most people that read your garbage can see right thru your bullcrap....if you don't you are as ignorant as you look.....i'll never look at your garbage again also. You are so ignorant that you probably still believe that Barrack Hussein Obama is a Muslim terrorist.....are you still spreading that lie as well.

-- Posted by slingshot on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 9:22 PM

I have a hard time accepting a credible argument from someone who can't even spell the President's name correctly. See blog title.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 9:27 PM

At the end of offering my opinion I don't hold out my hand expecting to get paid. The other side can't say the same.

-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 1:35 PM

Of course, not one iota of credible evidence to back that claim.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 9:31 PM

You have any evidence to refute it?

-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 9:53 PM

I didn't make the claim that people on the left were being paid to debate/discuss/etc... that was you. Typically when an accusation of the sort is levied on anyone, an inkling of evidence would be appropriate.

...still waiting.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 10:04 PM

Welfare, WIC, AFDC, obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Tenncare, Government housing, etc

-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 10:07 PM

And those have what to do with holding out a hand for offering an opinion?

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 10:15 PM

That is always the opinion of liberals. A government program needs to be created to give them money because they are unable or unwilling to solve problems for themselves.

OTOH, conservatives usually argue that they want to be left alone because the principles they live by are proven since biblical times to work and we don't need government agencies trying to reinvent the wheel.

-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 10:18 PM

I can't believe I read all 44 previous comments, wow do I need something to do.

-- Posted by big daddy rabbit on Fri, Sep 11, 2009, at 1:23 PM

Slingshot....Please be so kind as to point out the "lies, lies, lies" in this piece. Would you like to compare IQs? How about a debate in a public forum? I'm sure your congenital cowardness will govern your infantile behavior. How does it feel to have not the courage to put your face and name on your bovine scatology.

Darrick..You just can't keep from making it personal can you? I freely admit my fallibility as to spelling and other syntax errors. Sorry you can grant no one credibility who is so human as to make such mistakes. So I guess you will get off the blogs as you would not expect anyone to cede to you any credibility since you clearly don't know the Department of Defense is in the Executive Branch of government. This with a brand new, four and a half year degree from MTSU. Does this seem personal to you....?? Hope so. How does it feel?

Am I the only one who notices that liberals, they of the ideology of the kind and caring are the only commenters on these blogs that viciously attack with an uncommon vitriol all who disagree with them? Also they never seem to argue factual statements just ignorantly and violently assail the person delivering a statement which they have every right to make. So much for the Obamaites and their kind, caring and benevolent nature.

-- Posted by cmcclanahan on Fri, Sep 11, 2009, at 2:51 PM

"Am I the only one who notices that liberals... are the only commenters on these blogs that viciously attack"

no, i have to say i never noticed that. as a matter of fact, i dont see a whole lot of folks on here bucking for the civility award. do you?

"This with a brand new, four and a half year degree from MTSU. Does this seem personal to you....?? Hope so."

-- Posted by lazarus on Fri, Sep 11, 2009, at 4:23 PM

Well lets see how "Conservative" ideology works...

Check out this list:

2000-2009

* California Assemblyman Mike Duvall (R) resigned September 9th after the married champion of family values was videotaped bragging about affairs with two different female lobbyists saying of one of them, "I'm getting into spanking her." (2009)

* Nevada John Ensign Senator (R-NV) Senator Ensign resigned his position as Chairman of the Senate Republican Policy Committee on June 16, 2009 after admitting he had an affair with Cynthia Hampton the wife of a close friend, both of whom were working on his campaign. In 1998 Senator Ensign had called for President Clinton (D) to resign after admitting to sexual acts with Monica Lewinsky. (2009) NPR.org

* John Edwards (D-NC) Former senator and former presidential candidate who positioned himself as an honest, family values candidate, had his position seriously undercut when he admitted to an extramarital affair with actress and film producer Rielle Hunter. (2008)

* Vito Fossella (R-NY) - US Congressman arrested for drunk driving, Fossella admitted to having an affair with Laura Fay, with whom he has a three-year-old daughter. He is currently married to Mary Patricia née Rowan with whom he also has three children (2008)

* Tim Mahoney (D-FL) - US Congressman who accepted seat after resignation of Mark Foley for sexual harassment. Mahoney admitted to an affair with his congressional aide and later campaign staffer Patricia Allen. When Allen threatened to sue for sexual harassment Mahoney paid her $122,000. Mahoney is also under FBI investigation for preferential treatment he may have given to Martin County in the amount of $3.4 million in hurricane funds. Mahoney was seeking re-election, but lost. (2008) race.[15]

* D.C. Madam Scandal; Head of a prostitution ring centering around Deborah Jeane Palfrey (2007)

* David Vitter (R-LA) - US Congressman discovered in the numbers book of DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey (2007)

* Randall L. Tobias (R) Deputy Secretary of State, the 'AIDS Czar' who stated that condoms were not effective, resigned April 27, 2007 after confirming he had been a customer of the DC Madam, Deborah Jeane Palfrey.

* Glenn Murphy Jr. (R) - 33 year-old president of the Young Republican National Federation, under investigation for sexual assault of a sleeping 22 year-old man (2007)

* Larry Craig (R-ID) - US Senator who pled guilty to disorderly conduct in a Minneapolis airport men's room in June, after having been arrested on a charge of homosexual lewd conduct. Governor Craig had previously stated that "people already know that Bill Clinton is a bad boy - a naughty boy." (2007)

* Mark Foley (R-FL) - US Congressman accused of sending sexually explicit instant messages to an underage male congressional pages. Dual investigations by the FBI and the House Ethics Comm. are still underway and criminal charges may still be filed. (2006)

* Jeff Gannon (R) A.K.A. James Dale Guckert A.K.A. "Bulldog," was admitted to White House press conferences as a journalist without proper vetting and allowed to ask such sympathetic questions that The Daily Show referred to him as "Chip Rightwingenstein of the Bush Agenda." Records show he was admitted to the White House hundreds of times even when there were no press conferences. He later admitted to being a $200/day prostitute. (2005)

* Jack Ryan (R-IL) U.S. Senate candidate - Sex scandal became public during divorce proceedings with Jeri Ryan. Ms. Ryan is better known as 7 of 9 on Star Trek: Voyager (2004)

* Ed Schrock (R-VA) - US Congressman alleged to have run a personal column for men wanting to meet other men (2004)

* Jessica Cutler staffer for Senator Michael DeWine (R), published a short-lived blog called Washingtonienne describing her life in D.C. with graphic details (and prices) of her sex life, which supposedly included some highly placed Bush officials. (2004)

* Don Sherwood (R-PA) - US Congressman extramarital affair with accusations of abuse (2004)

* Steven C. LaTourette (R-OH) US Congressman accused of an affair with staffer Jennifer Laptook, whom he subsequently married.(2003)

* Gary Condit (D-CA) A US Congressman whose affair with 23 year old intern Chandra Levy was exposed after Levy disappeared. Her body was found a year later, and in 2008 an ex-felon with no relation to Condit was charged with her murder. (2001)

How many are Democrats and How many are Republicans? Interesting, isn't it? Oh and remember there are more Democrats in the House and Senate, so it seems someone is "sleeping" on the job...

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Sep 11, 2009, at 5:19 PM

So I guess you will get off the blogs as you would not expect anyone to cede to you any credibility since you clearly don't know the Department of Defense is in the Executive Branch of government. This with a brand new, four and a half year degree from MTSU. Does this seem personal to you....?? Hope so. How does it feel?

-- Posted by cmcclanahan on Fri, Sep 11, 2009, at 2:51 PM

Carl,

I have always known the Dept. of Defense is part of the Executive branch, as I am uncertain as to where you drew a different assumption. What I posted were excerpts from an article, not written by me... It's not personal to point out that you misspelled something, Carl. However, knowing how many years I went to school doesn't seem personal to me, considering I have mentioned it several time. One thing is for certain about that 4 and a half years; I have zero college debt as a result, and worked 40 hours a week the entire time. Perhaps you will list my address too so I can receive graduation money?????

You know, it isn't just Conservatives who know what personal responsibility is about...

Oh, and there really is nothing vicious about noticing typos. Relax.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Fri, Sep 11, 2009, at 7:50 PM

Evil Monkey.....Dave your 'puter seems to have a tilt to the left. I can name more Dems. than you did Republicans, but I choose not to participate in one-up-manship. Adds nothing to the debate and serves no purpose other than to impress only those with little minds.

Darrick....I know you know where the Def. Dept. is, just as assuredly as you know I can spell the President's name, but you said and I quote exactly, "Weapons Czar" not actually an executive branch position but the under Secetary of Defense for Acquisitions, Technology and Logistics. In English as I learned it this does not denote you are quoting someone. See how stupid pithy comments about someone's obvious human errors are? Attacking someone personally on the most immaterial matters just to impress someone you think you are smarter...most immature in my view.

I don't know your address and you can raise your own money.

Btw, has any one of these forty-odd comments addressed the people and points I made in the piece? If so, I've missed it.

-- Posted by cmcclanahan on Fri, Sep 11, 2009, at 8:47 PM

Carl, you're right...we have gotten quite off-track.

Didn't President Obama state that we could judge his character by the people with whom he surrounds himself (or something to that effect)?

-- Posted by Thom on Sat, Sep 12, 2009, at 12:41 AM

Very interesting Evil Monkey, Mr. McClanahan's position and problems with the people on his list are based on their political & legal ideologue. Whereas, most of the people on your list, if you truly have a problem with them, is based on their sexual orientation and indiscretions. What makes that interesting is your staunch defense of their right to make those choices (orientation) on Mr. Bell's blog.

However, I will agree that the ones listed who have had affairs and visit the prostitutes (I really have to include the homosexuals as well because of the biblical position regarding the life style) are of dubious morality and I would not vote them into office. And, I am not sure your heading of 'conservative ideology" is entirely accurate when you include the the likes of John Edwards and Gary Condit-known liberals.

Just because someone is in the republican party does not automatically make them a "conservative", nor does someones affiliation with the democratic party automatically make them a "liberal" As for the rest on your list, I would have to review their voting records and positions on issues before I could ascertain whether they should have the title "liberal" or "conservative" attached to their names.

I also find it interesting that, as Mr. McClanahan stated, that no one has directly refuted him on the specific arguments he has made. I, for one find it very troubling that we would have an adviser that would advocate that we also consider international law in interpreting our constitution. I say Never!

-- Posted by Midnight Rider on Sat, Sep 12, 2009, at 1:12 AM

Evil Monkey

As already stated you list is fairly selective. William Jefferson and his freezer full of cash and Barney Frank's boyfriend running a male prostitution ring from Frank's office immediately come to mind.

As also has been said R is not synonymous with conservatism as D is not always liberal.

That being said, which of those you mentioned had their hand out to be paid through a socialist program?

-- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Sep 12, 2009, at 5:58 AM

Carl,

Funny how you whine and cry about people attacking you without facts, Yet I have posted facts yet you attacking me with remarks how it would only impress little minds? Who is attacking whom here? The reason you choose not to participate is because you cannot. I find you so Faux News ...

You try to make everyone else feel like they are so inferior to you because you have a built-in thesaurus on your computer. Since you rather impress the Big Wig on the Hill why don't you send them an Eye Patch Honey so they might back you up by assassinating my reputation since you have a hard time doing so yourself.

Midnight Rider,

The reason I posted John Edwards and Gary Condit is they are Moderates and do have somewhat Conservative values as well. Basically they are hypocrites. Mind you, Most Americans with conservative values are not in the same class as these people, they only say they are conservative to get the votes.

quietmike,

Look, I posted all of the people that have toted the Family Values stance whether they be Democrat or Republican, I didn't think of the other two you stated, thanks.

There are quite a few things I disagree with this current administration. I write my Congressman, my Senator and the White House regarding the bailouts of wall street, the big 3, Fannie Mae/Mac, and Amnesty of Illegals. I want none of that.

The only thing I agree with is Revitalization of our Nation's infrastructure which includes, upgrading the power grids, roads, bridges, sewer systems, water systems etc. These will create jobs and improve the quality of life for everyone while being more efficient doing so.

That is what is important to me because it does so much more for the Country as a whole. We are nitpicking the non-important issues which is holding our country back.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sat, Sep 12, 2009, at 10:12 AM

The only thing I agree with is Revitalization of our Nation's infrastructure which includes, upgrading the power grids, roads, bridges, sewer systems, water systems etc. These will create jobs and improve the quality of life for everyone while being more efficient doing so.

- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sat, Sep 12, 2009, at 10:12 AM

I agree with you, but these things are just not happening. At least that I know of. The money for bridges is a joke, because it was intended for bridges that were unsafe and had failed inspections, but in most states the money is being spent on bridges that pose no danger. The reason? Because they are quicker and easier to start.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/...

For those of you who won't look at anything associated with Fox News here is a link to CBS News: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/3...

I agree with EM that this is where the money should be spent. These things are long overdue and would provide real jobs while upgrading the systems that would truly improve our quality of life with more efficient electrical supply, safer roads, and higher quality water. Write your congressman and senators today and tell them that if they are going to spend our money, spend on something that benefits the nation-not some 2 or 3 month band-aid like cash for clunkers.

-- Posted by Midnight Rider on Sat, Sep 12, 2009, at 10:58 AM

The use of the word czar in this context is a metaphor. The word is not the issue. The failure to recognize that all presidents have had advisers whose bios were circumspect and who were used by the opposition to attack the judgement of the leader.

I happen to think that Obama, while he may ask their opinions, thinks for himself and makes his own opinions.

As for the information about the advisers and their curriculum vitae...I would like to have access to the sources before assessing the credibility of this rant.

-- Posted by kyosaku on Sat, Sep 12, 2009, at 12:18 PM

EM....I'm a little suprised at your attack. I guess my feeble attempt at jocularity in pointing out you not addressing anything I said in this piece was over the head of your brilliant intellect.

But now that you have done it. Let's go. I have no interest in getting into a, "I can out google you, haha," contest. If you think that is a mark of erudition, knowledge or wisdom, you are sorely mistaken. There are other commenters, who shall remain nameless, who are afflicted with the same disease. I stated this only impresses the less able among us. I stand by this opinion.

Interesting you find me "Faux news." Is that from your thesaurus? You absolutely and meticulously avoid address anything I said in my piece. Brilliant! Please show me and your fans, if any, where my blog is "fake." You most assuredly know me not at all if you think I even own a thesaurus. I type this comment from the comment box. I will readily admit to needing a dictionary as I am an abysmal speller but not a thesaurus. You must be comparing me to those few in your circle who all probably think having such a tome is a mark of distinction. So sad.

In future, I suggest you remember you drew first blood. The fact is I have defended you, not attacked you, but that was then. No more. This is not a threat, just a promise. I have tried to be tolerant and accepting of your comments and positions on this blog, but no more.

If you want to play hard ball, I relish the thought.

Btw, can you point out the words Republican or Democrat as I used them in this piece? If not, why are your comments then not total bs?

-- Posted by cmcclanahan on Sat, Sep 12, 2009, at 1:42 PM

Carl - I'm pretty sure he was referring to Fox News (Faux News) see the similarity? But I could very well be mistaken.

-- Posted by Thom on Sat, Sep 12, 2009, at 4:08 PM

Carl,

Really, you weren't joking, read your past comment very carefully before stating that is so.

"But now that you have done it. Let's go. I have no interest in getting into a, "I can out google you, haha," contest. If you think that is a mark of erudition, knowledge or wisdom, you are sorely mistaken. There are other commenters, who shall remain nameless, who are afflicted with the same disease. I stated this only impresses the less able among us. I stand by this opinion."

Facts are facts, Your opinion means squat without them ... Do you have wisdom and the knowledge as well? Are you saying I don't because I am not like you?

What you stated in your piece had little to do with the comment regarding how liberal are in one of your comments, That is what I was replying to. I could give a rat's behind about your blog as most of it is a whine and cry fest about how Obama is crapping on your parade.

Regarding the Faux News statement, Thom is correct.

Who drew first blood? Watch Rambo a few too many times Carl? and if you need the question answered. You did. You did defend me? If chastising me and stated anything I wrote was for idiots, then I guess Yeah, that's defending me.

Few in my circle? Do you think there is a group of people that sit waiting to pounce on your drivel? Paranoid much?

You don't need a dictionary, notice when the red line pops up under a word in this comment box? Right click it and pick the correct spelling of the word. No idea why you waste time on a dictionary when it is already built into the website. And again, where is this circle I have, you keep referring about? Are classifying certain types of people? That's so 1950s republican.

Carl, How many Liberal Republicans do you know?:)

Psst, I know the answer...

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sat, Sep 12, 2009, at 5:36 PM

Thom........This is the EXACT quote from EM "I find you so Faux News ..." The personal pronoun "you' is hard to miss. Note he even tries to back pedal and agree with you.

EM..I'm through with you. See you on the campaign trail.

-- Posted by cmcclanahan on Sun, Sep 13, 2009, at 7:17 PM

Btw EM.....Sorry I forgot to answer your question about naming one liberal Republican.....How about Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, William Cohen and Lowell Weicker. What happened? Did you google button break?

-- Posted by cmcclanahan on Sun, Sep 13, 2009, at 7:31 PM

Carl,

How am I back-peddling? Faux News refers to Fox News, I compare you to them. That's your source for "news" and "facts", correct?

Campaign trail? You running? See you there.

The reason you "through" with me is because you CANNOT refute anything I stated. Everything you said is PURELY Opinionated. Instead you repeatedly attack me without regard to answering simple questions by lying.

You lied stating I drew first blood, you lie stating I back peddled, you lie when you said you were joking, and you lie stating you defended me. So really, Is this the ideology you represent? Seriously.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Mon, Sep 14, 2009, at 10:52 AM


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