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Carl McClanahan

New Jail

Posted Thursday, July 21, 2016, at 10:38 AM
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  • Carl,how much will it save the taxpayers? Will it be accessible? Easy to get sewer water and electric?Will it be safe?I feel the old Courthouse old become a museum or education center.

    -- Posted by beau maverick on Thu, Jul 21, 2016, at 11:21 AM
  • I only ask these questions so that I can better understand the situation.If it's something that would benefit the people,I'm all for it.

    -- Posted by beau maverick on Thu, Jul 21, 2016, at 12:14 PM
  • Beau....ask your Commissioner...

    the County owned site will cost nothing to purchase as we own it.....houses are nearby, so utilities are nearby...as for accessability, it's in the city limits.

    -- Posted by cmcclanahan on Thu, Jul 21, 2016, at 12:32 PM
  • If that's the situation then it needs to be voted on by the people.As for downtown, we need to study Franklins.It brings in enough revenue to save each family 453 dollars a year in taxes.I firmly believe that the downtown area with the right businesses and attractions could draw even more people.

    -- Posted by beau maverick on Thu, Jul 21, 2016, at 1:12 PM
  • I agree, but support and leadership should come from elected officials.

    -- Posted by cmcclanahan on Thu, Jul 21, 2016, at 1:16 PM
  • Elected officials in our county need to start listening to the citizens and start looking to the future.

    -- Posted by beau maverick on Thu, Jul 21, 2016, at 2:24 PM
  • There actually has been some discussion of putting a courtroom in the bank building. Because current building codes are stricter for public gathering places than they are for offices, the discussion at some of the meetings I've covered has indicated that it would be pretty expensive to renovate for a courtroom and bring it up to code -- and it would only have been a partial solution for some of the security and overcrowding problems. Right now, the county plans to use that bank building for the offices that it's now paying rent for in places like the US Bank building.

    Also, according to a meeting I reported on in 2013, the tire dump site has 60 acres but only seven of them are outside the flood plain. The story also lists "access and other logistical problems," and I don't recall if they got more specific during the meeting.

    -- Posted by jcarney on Mon, Jul 25, 2016, at 12:15 PM
  • Also, it's the courthouse and county property committee, not the law enforcement committee, that's holding a special called meeting Tuesday night to talk about jail sites. The meeting will be at Bedford County Business Complex (the old Medical Arts Building) on Dover Street. The county finance committee will hold its regular monthly meeting at 4:15 at the same location, and the courthouse committee will meet immediately following the finance committee.

    -- Posted by jcarney on Mon, Jul 25, 2016, at 12:27 PM
  • John..........thanks for the corrections and other info...I think from the responses to this piece, people seem to only care about the right to gripe, not any solutions.

    -- Posted by cmcclanahan on Mon, Jul 25, 2016, at 1:02 PM
  • John...got my info from County official...I thought it credible, but I guess not.

    -- Posted by cmcclanahan on Mon, Jul 25, 2016, at 1:47 PM
  • Well, I don't know -- I was just going back and looking at what I'd reported at previous meetings. It's possible that someone misspoke back then.

    -- Posted by jcarney on Mon, Jul 25, 2016, at 2:19 PM
  • Fact is that the state is making our county build a new jail.All thoughts,ideas and sites need to be given consideration.I'd like to see the real facts instead of opinions.My questions are what are the possible sites,pros and cons, true cost,and whether a public say on the matter?Not to be offensive but our commissioners haven't made the best choices on civic matters and we as citizens pay the price.

    -- Posted by beau maverick on Tue, Jul 26, 2016, at 9:16 AM
  • You, as citizens, select the commissioners. Their choices, bad or good, only reflect your own decision making.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Tue, Jul 26, 2016, at 12:50 PM
  • The ones in my part of the county,I did not vote for them.I felt one was under qualified and the other a troublemaker trying to make a name for himself.I believe this situation needs to have the input and votes of the people.Questions need to be addressed.The right facts on the matter presented in a correct manner.Also we need to make sure we meet the requirements set forth by the state and even exceed them.

    -- Posted by beau maverick on Tue, Jul 26, 2016, at 12:58 PM
  • From where I stand, the new jail issue is not a problem, but an enormous opportunity. Maybe it would take someone with a little more of a visionary approach.

    The proposed site at the old Krogers shopping center is a great location. Highway access, space, a section of town that has been in decline, and a building site that is already impacted (environmentally speaking). This would bring some life back to that end of town....

    Now, add some vision for downtown. If you remove the jails, and the courts, couldn't other county functions, like property assessor, county clerk, ets, be fit into the existing court building? Then look at all the now empty space around the old square. With all the criminal element removed, all you have left is a shell of a beautiful old downtown. The square does not have to die, if it loses the business of the lawyers and defendants. Picture all those vacant lots with some "high rise" (3 or 4 story) apartment buildings, nice townhouses (not everyone wants to maintain a 20 acre lot), small parks, the existing old buildings converted into stores, etc to create a small city within a city. With all the major highways now routed away from downtown, could we not create a walking city, with both residential buildings and services within a convenient distance of each other? Think about Murfreesboro. How many young professionals would like to raise families in a small town environment, a convenient distance down a 4-lane highway from work?

    Look at all the money we throw at "economic development," most of which is pocketed by out of state corporate interests, who use us for cheap labor and handouts, then dump us as soon as their tax breaks go away. What sort of "incentives" for local developers would it take to turn this asset of what remains of downtown into a jewel? A jewel that would not be going anywhere.

    I have never believed in just blindly doing what everyone else does. I think we should look at every supposed problem as an opportunity, and take advantage of them.... Why not let other cities try to imitate what we do for a change?

    -- Posted by lazarus on Thu, Jul 28, 2016, at 10:14 AM
  • I have to say this is the post you've ever posted. I read the 4 sites and feel the Kroger is a good spot.Our downtown could become like some areas where apartments,shops,restaurants events,parks,and tourists come to visit.I remember reading about how our downtown was known as the Shelbyville stamp.Used throughout the nation.It's time to bring it back.

    -- Posted by beau maverick on Thu, Jul 28, 2016, at 10:44 AM
  • I checked. Almost all of it is in the flood plain.

    -- Posted by DCgroves on Sun, Aug 14, 2016, at 1:14 PM
  • Hopefully the jail location would be a long term solution.One that can be added onto and upgraded and meets the states requirements.

    -- Posted by beau maverick on Tue, Aug 16, 2016, at 2:54 PM
  • DCgroves.....I have a current map that shows 11+ acres not in the flood plain.

    -- Posted by cmcclanahan on Tue, Aug 16, 2016, at 5:21 PM
  • How much area is needed? Can it be improved,to help it drain better?Costs vs savings?

    -- Posted by beau maverick on Wed, Aug 17, 2016, at 11:38 AM
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