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Ron Paul supporter TEAD OFFPosted Wednesday, May 20, 2009, at 11:05 AM
I received a call this morning from a call center. A lady with a Spanish accent told me that President Obama needed my support for a clean air bill or something. I listened to the whole spill and at the end of it all she asked if I would mind if she put me through to representative Gordon so I could tell him I support him. I said "sure" because I wanted to see how their whole plan worked. A few seconds later a man from Gordon's office answered the phone and I replied "sorry I've got the wrong number". Although they may have won the White House, they're not foolish enough to think that everyone is gonna agree with everything they do. This is why they are making sure that the calls come in to our representatives. That means that those calls to our representatives must mean something!
I hear a lot of gripping about the president now days. If you've got time to gripe you've got time to be an activist. You can pick up your phone and call your representatives or e-mail them or show up at local events to educate yourself and support your party. I didn't vote Republican or Democrat in the last election. I am a huge Ron Paul supporter and when he dropped out I researched the remaining candidates and chose to vote for Chuck Baldwin. I knew he wouldn't win but I had to vote my conscience. I know there are many unhappy Ron Paul supporters still wanting to get behind a good cause so I want to invite you to H.V. Griffin park on July 4th at 7pm. This will be the second large event of the now nationally famous TEA party(TEAD OFF). If you want to take the country back help us start hear in Shelbyville. There will be music and speakers leading up to the fireworks that night. For more information email me at kelly@threesixteen.org. Hope to see you there. Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
Originally from Rutherford County, Fernandez moved to Shelbyville to pastor "The Crossing" church and has lived here for two years.
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Please don't waste valuable space at the park on the 4th of July on this!!!!
Maybe it should be called a "self-pitty" party instead of a TEA party.
By the way is the "TEA" with or without sugar?
Seems like an excellent utilization of the park on the holiday. Put some "independents" into Independence Day. Shame on you reader_2 for denigrating the very type of activity this country was founded on.
It would be of your highest courtesy to contact the Dept of Parks and Recreations Director Sylvia Pinson. That date is highly planned for the 4th of July and I will state this, if you ruin my family day I would be more than upset to see a bunch of ticked off people ruin my day.
All of Pavilions are rented that day already so I do not know where all of this is coming from. The entire day is filled with events, contests, and food. I just don't think this is a good idea.
devan....shame back at you for questioning my right to state my thoughts!!!
Not questioning your right of expression, just whether you are right. Every expression carries the possiblity of being wrong.
Is anyone aware that the White House at the request of THE RESIDENT is considering having the military swear oath to him rather than the constitution? This is supposed to occur around the 4th of July. Boy are we ever getting CHANGE!!!
And right now its still a free country. Lets try to keep it.
Thing is H.V. Griffin park is a public park regardless if it's July 4th or July 10th. The TEA party has as much right to be there as anyone else whether you agree with their ideas or not. That's the great thing about this nation, You don't have to agree with the ideas or things people do but you do have to tolerate it as long as they are not infringing on your rights.
Wow you hit a nerve dude..
I will pray everything goes well.
I agree Evil Monkey! The park is always enjoyed by children and grown ups celebrating the 4th of July. Throwing a "TEA party(TEAD OFF)" on that special occasion at the park is very rude, and distasteful. I know people have to get permission to "Hold Events" at the park, whether it is family reunions, big Church Organization gatherings, etc.
Seriously if that's the Case I would be able to hold my teenage sons (17th yr.) birthday party out their that night, and they can play their music, "Mostly Rap", some Love songs, and dance all night through Both the 4th of July and the (TEAD OFF) party event. I can almost gaurantee you, they will run "us" off, and say we did not get (Permission) to hold that type of event. "What's the difference" a bunch of angry protesters, and a bunch of teenagers having a party?
This reminds me alot of how Tyson Plant wanted to give recognition for a Muslim Holiday in the place of an Ameircan Holiday. Quite frankly what you are proposing to do is (no different). Everyone is not a Ron Paul supporter, and not everyone is having "self-pitty". Have your Tead off party on your own date(s) and don't ruin the day for other people that want to celebrate the "Actual Holiday" itself. Shame!
As a matter of fact the Obama Supporters could even go and hold an event about change during the July 4th Holiday that night at the park along the side of your now nationally famous TEA party(TEAD OFF). I know their will be a big up roar going on at the park, outside the park, and Brian Mosley would have a field day with the News. : )
It will be blowing up the Times Gazette Blogs like it did the day Tyson changed an approved American Holiday to Muslim Holiday for it's employees. People do have a right to protest and voice thier opinions, their isn't anything wrong with that, even the day you are doing it on some people may not mind, it is just the place (During the Time "OTHER" people "KIDS and grown ups" that do not want to be bothered with "ANGRY TEAD OFF PROTESTERS will be their to enjoy a PEACEFUL event).
The one thing I did not see in Kelly's post, or have heard from accounts of previous Tea Parties, is any disruptive activities. Obviously, that possibility exists, but you can be angry and express it in positive ways. "Be angry but do not sin."
"Is anyone aware that the White House at the request of THE RESIDENT is considering having the military swear oath to him rather than the constitution? This is supposed to occur around the 4th of July."
just how gullible can a person be?
i'm not sure how they came up with my e-mail address, but i have been getting something about every other day begging for money to help the democrats win more seats in the next election.
i think i will stick with current contribution level of zero. i would reduce that if i could figure out a way.
democrats and republicans, with their party over country attitudes are enough to make me retch.
"If you want to take the country back ..."
i keep seeing/hearing this phrase, and i am really curious as to what it is supposed to mean. since this country is supposed to be run by a democratically elected government, and clearly more people chose the winning candidate, that is the government i have. of course, being a libertarian, losing elections is old-hat to me. i know when i vote, that my guy wont win, but i feel like there needs to be more than the same old voices heard. i did always hope that the republicans would provide at least passing support for conservative ideals, but over the last few election cycles they have become the party of fruitcakes, and currently they seem to have taken the tack of not participating at all, unless they can have 100% their own way.
now, if your concept is to convince more people to turn away from supporting the current leadership in the next election, i am all for it. but crazy talk isnt going to do it. i saw the "teaparty" on the square, and you were topheavy with nut-cases. there are a lot of sane conservatives, with more than a third grade education. that is who ya'll need to be courting.
a good start; if you have not co-ordinated your 4th of july protest with the park, you really need to do so. that is how responsible people act. all that is achieved by acting foolish is to drive more middle ground people away, and they will most likely believe that the only other choice is the democrats. another crazy statement i keep hearing is that we are "better off" without anyone who doesnt buy into the extreme fringe beliefs heart and soul. i will return to the obvious. this is a democracy, and we need more people voting for conservatives than for liberals, or we get what we get.
It's unbelievable to me that there are even this many people that read the Times-Gazette that don't know what INDEPENDENCE DAY is all about. Let me guess, to you folks it's about drinking beer and eating hot dogs. You're probably the same people that think Christmas is about how much debt you can accumulate trying to buy the latest and greatest toy on the market.
Staging a protest is a right and this is probably THE most appropriate date to do so. I would, however, stage it at a location that's not already reserved. But it is the RIGHT of the people to do this whenever and wherever they wish.
As for the statement "take the country back", how many of you actually believe that this country is run by THE PEOPLE? It is run by SOME people, but certainly not the citizens at large. The federal government has become SO bloated that it has ABSOLUTELY no idea where most of OUR tax money is going. WE THE PEOPLE need to reign in the federal government in accordance with the 10th Amendment to the Constitution.
Thom,
I agree but when you are purposely infringing on others' rights to the pursuit of happiness during a family outing then it isn't about a protest. It seems it is more about disrupting a lot of family fun time.
"What's the difference" a bunch of angry protesters, and a bunch of teenagers having a party?
Ummm...you're not serious, are you?
Last time I went to the 4th of July celebration at the park, all I saw was a bunch of drunken idiots being their usual self and other people ruining the event. How can you really call that a "family" celebration when situations like that occur? If a group of people want to have a peaceful protest at the park then so be it . . . it is not going to ruin anything and especially if you aren't going to get rid of the other bad elements there that actually cause problems. It would be different if they were going to cause a commotion but considering the person who posted this entry is a church leader, I serious doubt they are there to ruin anyone's fun. The park is big enough for everyone and since everyone pay taxes that fund the operation of the park, they have just as much right to be there as anyone else. Plus who knows, they might have already cleared it with the park.
reader_2 . . . yes you have the right to express your opinion and to state your disagreement with the event but it was the tacky and very classless way in which you stated your opinion is what made it unworthy to be listed and showed your juvenile way of thinking.
Jax,
Since when did you get to deem an opinion "unworthy".. you don't run these blogs, so quit pretending you do.
jaxspike...do I need to go back and review some of your past posts???
Let's all practice what we preach.
jaxspike,
Actually I had a run-in with a church leader last week at the park that had no problem spoiling the Bluegrass Festivals activities, vendors income and being a royal jerk about it. Security and the Director had to ask them to leave and come back some other time as to not be riding on the coat-tails of another event. Going to an event that costs someone else money for fun and then curtailing it with political views... you know what?
Where have these "teapartiers" been the past 8 years of wasteful spending? Why now? Really, that is my main question, Why now? Why did it take a black president being elected to finally get up and say Enough is Enough? When was the last straw? It sure wasn't the billions of dollars being sent to Iraq with ZERO accountability, or the awarding of HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of contracts to Haliburton with ZERO accountability. Really, Where were you then?
The "where were you then" statement is directed at the teapartiers, not jaxspike.
I don't think anyone has ever said Bush's spending wasn't wasteful. Problem is we still have all of Bush's wasteful spending plus Trillions more of wasteful spending. Obama was suppose to be the change and what exactly has changed? More of the same is not change. It has nothing to do with Obama being a black President it has to do with the way he is spending our country into the ground. Your grand children will look back on this time in history and wonder what kind of idiots we really were spending their future taxes.
EM - The current President being black has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it...but thanks for throwing that out there. It's more that people are FINALLY getting fed up with it and getting organized in protesting the huge federal government.
Just because we're protesting the wasteful spending of the federal government while a black man happens to be running the Executive Branch, doesn't mean we're protesting because he's black. If that's your honest opinion on it, then you're certainly not the guy that I thought you were.
You and I have discussed this and I know we've even talked about that aspect of it and race has nothing to do with the Tea Party movement. This has been coming for years but has finally started to take form just within the past year or so (believe it or not, most of this was started BEFORE Obama was elected).
I was about to say . . . I complained many times during Bush administration about the lack of accountability and spending and I am doing the same with Obama's administration. Just because Bush made a million mistakes doesn't mean I give Obama a free pass to make a million more. I want to see government become less involved and spend less money so Americans don't pay in the long run (even though they already are).
As far as race, I seriously doubt it has anything to do with this. Sure, there are a few fringe individuals who take race into factor but that is life and the majority of the other individuals shouldn't be judge by the actions of those idiots. Also, race goes both ways in that several African Americans voted for Obama strictly because he was black and not based on the issues. It really goes both ways I guess and while we have to admit racism still does exist, I don't think it is a motivating factor for these protests or at least I hope not.
Actually If people find it offensive that I mentioned that Obama is black (at least I got your attention), I just thought it was strange that these Tea Parties miraculously happened AFTER Obama was elected and never once during Bush's Administration.
Again, Where were the Teapartiers the past 8 years, WHY NOW? Really think about it.
Let me ask you, Where were the Teapartiers when gas was $4.00 a gallon? What about when people were losing their houses even though they were paying their bills? Where were they then?
So Obama is putting some money into the infrastructure, big deal. We need it. Badly. At least he is spending it in America! Not overseas to fund building in Dubai. I agree we should have never bailed out the Big 3 or the banks or the insurance companies. But why go to a Park and protest? Please. Go to a government building and do it where people can do something about it. Why ruin others' fun day?
If someone is going to protest, it is always best to pick a time or place for maximum exposure and that would be the park on 4th of July. It makes sense if you want to make a point I guess. I wont be there personally but I don't see how it will "ruin" anyone's fun . . . I am sure life will go on.
In regards to the protests, I think people are protesting Obama's policies (social and economical) and not his skin color. We definitely don't need another Al Sharpton fostering racism and hate in situations where it doesn't exist because it only invalidates the actual cases where it does exist.
Jaxspike,
That's the point of the entire reason I said it. WHY didn't this happen BEFORE Obama? No-one can answer this. They aren't fostering the idea behind the teaparty whatsoever, no-one is taking it seriously because it didn't happen before this current administration. It only looks like a bunch of sore loser republicans with another agenda or it was racial (which was my reasoning by my first point). When you go after the maximum exposure instead of targeted exposure you won't get quality participants. Sorry but that is just a disaster waiting to happen.
I don't know about you, but I don't think they will get support when people are trying to have fun. I know I wanted to spend as much time with my family as possible without interruptions.
It just seems this is a bad idea to garner support. And I am all for the teaparty movement as long as it is in it's purest form like how Thom and I believe. I do not agree in how it is being distorted by other "Teaparty" movements as a partisan Slugfest.
I would have attended a tax protest years ago.
Nothing was ever organized. Heck, it's still not organized and I hope it stays that way.
Once it gets bigger and more structured then it will be easier for people to label and stereotype.
I hope it stays non-partisan too.
Maybe it never happened BEFORE Obama because it was hoped that a new president would be different, not MORE OF THE SAME!
If this much community support can be manifested to protest on a Federal level. Why don't you try it out and see if you can fix something a little closer to home?
Put your efforts into improving your Local policies that everyone Screams about on here...you couldn't even change a School Board Policy, you can't boot out local officials, you can't keep local taxes from rising, you can't stop Illegal Immigrants coming in by the bus load, but you can organize this?????
I'm all for freedom of speech and the right to protest, I'd love to see a community effort to CHANGE your community....
Maybe the protesting didn't start until now because the catalyst wasn't there until recently. I mean really, the whole idea of having these protests didn't spring up until CNBC's Rick Santelli mentioned it one day on a news piece and the idea kind of built momentum. Sometimes things like this needs a spark and it was given a spark by Santelli and has generated into a slow burning fire.
I also offer this . . . none of the Democrats were protesting when Bush was in office. I mean they had eight years to do something and I never heard of anything really protesting (whining, yes) but now all you hear is how bad his decisions were and how he is a war criminal and various other comments . I just find it amusing when comparing the two sides and all the talk going back and forth. So when you mention why these people didn't protest before Obama . . . I have to say the same thing about people complaining about Bush. To be honest, Bush and Obama both are big spenders but Obama is actually outspending Bush at the moment.
jaxspike,
There is a lot of things that is happening to the Bush administration from people that didn't like what he did. They just don't whine about it, they are doing something. Hence why McCain lost.
starparent,
I am with you 100%.
I also offer this . . . none of the Democrats were protesting when Bush was in office. I mean they had eight years to do something and I never heard of anything really protesting (whining, yes) but now all you hear is how bad his decisions were and how he is a war criminal and various other comments . - jaxspike
There were several national protests during the Bush years, and I even remember a scene of his limo being egged. National protestors are forced protesters to stand in areas sometimes so far away they don't garner media exposure much of the time.
As far as local protesting goes, we all know there would be no Teabag protesters around here if McCain was president. Even if he was, and he would be, spending money at the rate we are now.
The reason there are protest here now, is because we are in the South.
And, that has nothing to do with race.
The GOP is becoming a regional party comprised of NRA church members. Where else in the country would you find more gun loving, Christian men and women than right here in your own neighborhood?
There is nothing wrong with that at all, except for the fact the GOP 'expected' their normal conservative base to stay loyal while they went crazy trying to win the South over and catering to their ideals at all cost.
In fact, I believe these types of protest are simply the beginning of people in this area, and in other rural areas, taking steps to break away from the Republican party. The GOP overextended, and is now slowly retreating from some of the perceived radical views Southerners hold.
They won't be able to keep them as party members much longer, and they sure as heck won't be becoming Democrats anytime soon.
I think that it is absolutely laughable that every time ANYONE brings up an issue with President Barack Obama, it mus be because they're racist. You can't say anything that might be derogatory about his administration without fear of being labeled a racist. Well, considering that people are already calling me that (as well as a right-wing extremist because I'm a veteran of the United States Navy), I have no fear of whatever I'm called. I have gone ahead and put a little bit of information about YOUR messiah into a blog entry.
I am also sick and tired of the liberals constantly trying to throw the whole "where were you then" thing out there when we are protesting against the federal government as a whole. These Tea Parties are NATIONWIDE, and are just going to grow in size and number.
The size of this government that is SUPPOSED TO BE SUBSERVIENT TO THE STATES is just ASININE! And Barack Obama is just making it LARGER and making the American people more beholden to it.
Thom,
It just weird about the timing because Bush was doing the same exact thing with the spending and when Obama was elected is when the Tea Party Movement started. What are people supposed to think?
And I am with you brother. The govt is too big, but why at a park where people don't want to hear it? They just want to relax with their families not get all stressed out again. Protest at the congressman's or senator's offices. Go to Nashville's General Assembly and protest there. Go to our courthouse and protest there.
Mr. Fernandez:
Once you get the country back; what are you going to do with it?
The courthouse sounds good.
I'll bring my tailgating grill....
I think any Govt. office would be a good place to send your message.
I am all for people protesting, and as far as I am concerned, you should have the ability to do it at the park, on the courthouse lawn, or the side of the road provided you have a peaceful and lawful gathering. That being said, if your objective is to create a national "movement" and the ideals presented by that movement are contradictory to the current democratic or republican objectives (which are pretty close to the same), you do not stand much of a chance. If you come anywhere near becoming an organized catalyst for unwanted change, you will be marginalized, denied permits, face harassment and possibly even individually investigation and prosecution if a valid reason can be found (and that is not as hard as it used to be...thanks to Bush), long before you draw too much national or international attention to your cause. If your demonstrations do change anything, it will be because they were allowed to, in order to further a different agenda. Sorry to be so pessimistic...