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Haiti needs compassion not JUDGEMENT

Posted Thursday, January 14, 2010, at 8:45 AM

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Please shut up.
Well, once again I have noticed Pat Robertson has opened his mouth and spewed forth garbage about a horrid situation that a country is in.

This is Pats comment on the Haiti earthquake:

"Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it. They were under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon III, or whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the Devil. They said, we will serve you if you'll get us free from the French. True story. And so, the Devil said, okay it's a deal."

OK.....so what compassion and love does this show?

This, and ignorant comments like this, is why people think Christians as a whole are fake and horrid.

Where is the weeping over the children that are dead, the mothers and fathers in turmoil because they cannot find their loved ones?

Why are Christians, as a whole, so quick to point fingers: "You did something bad , therefore God's wrath will be poured out on you..."

Sounds like Zeus to me, not the Bright Morningstar.

Jesus did not come to the world to condemn it. John 3:17-19.

People already know they are condemned because of what they do, Jesus showed us the Father as compassion and love.

I do not for one bit believe that Haiti had the wrath of God poured out on them.

It is a terrible circumstance in which, God's love and mercy can shine forth in his True Servants.

How can you show your love?

Pray for them and the workers in Haiti.

Send donations to the American Red Cross

Find a reputable Ministry that is sending supplies and people.

I am so glad that I met the Real Jesus when I needed Him, instead of the one who is vengeful and full of contempt. If you know the real deal, you'll be able to spot the fakes in a instant.

Matt. 25: 35-40 is pretty darn clear on what we are supposed to do. Instead I have seen it turned into this:

I was hungry,

And you formed a humanities group to discuss my hunger.

I was imprisoned,

And you crept off quietly to your chapel and prayed for my release.

I was naked,... and you scoffed..

And in your mind you debated the morality of my appearance.

I was sick,

And you knelt and thanked God for your health.

I was homeless,

And you preached a sermon on the spiritual shelter of the love of God.

I was lonely, and you left me alone to pray for me.

You seem so holy, so close to God --

But I am still very hungry -- and lonely -- and cold. (Quote: "Skip Newby")

Let's turn that around by asking the Holy Spirit to lead us and reveal compassion as God sees it.


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Amen Lesa

-- Posted by bellbuckletn on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM

I like this. Great blog.

-- Posted by gottago on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 9:11 AM

Beautifully said.

-- Posted by MotherMayhem on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 9:17 AM

Even if you aren't Methodist, you might consider a donation to the United Methodist Committee on Relief (UMCOR), which does outstanding work in disasters like these. The nice thing about UMCOR is that its administrative and overhead expenses are budgeted by the church, so when they ask for money for a particular disaster 100 percent of that money goes to the disaster area.

http://new.gbgm-umc.org/umcor/newsroom/r...

-- Posted by Jicarney on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 10:00 AM

I really wish he would retire, already. He makes me so angry I can't even stand to hear the sound of his voice.

Hatred disguised as religion is nothing new, but it's also one of the main reasons I will always consider myself spiritual and not religious.

My heart goes out to all of those poor victims. We truly have been blessed here in the US.

-- Posted by Nobody'sFool on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 10:01 AM

Lutheran World Relief is also good about getting all the money where it's supposed to go.

-- Posted by MotherMayhem on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 10:06 AM

This is a great web site for anyone wanting to give -- and to make sure their gift goes where they want it to go.

http://www.charitywatch.org/hottopics/Ha...

-- Posted by MotherMayhem on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 11:05 AM

Mother and Jcarney thanks so much for the suggestions...

I am so glad there are good churchs out there.

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 4:03 PM

I really enjoyed reading this. Thank You

-- Posted by rebelrosecountrymom on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 5:26 PM

I love America's humanitarian atitude. I also know that although we will give til it hurts we will get no appreciation from all those we have helped. And I fully expect this post to get deleted but thats OK too.

-- Posted by cherokee2 on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 7:10 PM

Thats called unconditional love. It does not require a return. If it requires a return it is a tool of manipulation or it is a contract. If you donate through a nonprofet, you get the satifaction of helping someone and the tax break. If you give and always require a return it is not much of a gift. The best thing to do is not give if you are having a personel issue. You are setting yourself up for dissapointment and a life of being mad at the world. You have a valid point that needs to be addressed. I do not give to every need. I give to the needs that speak to me as my part. OR NOT, NOT IS OK TOO!

-- Posted by bear on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 8:11 PM

i dont mind donating to a worthy cause and expect nothing in return but unlike alot of people out there i also watch out for my own FIRST..by that i mean those in america..lets fix our own problems before giving to another country when our economy is in this OBAMAnation of a crisis.Honeslty they show pictures of those who lost thier house but not those here that have never had a house to begin with.Our resources only go so far and they have been stretched far to thin for far to long.So much of america looks the same as haiti or the place that sunami hit or the wastelands of africa that has recieved billions and they all still look the same.instead of sending our food send them some seeds teach them to farm as our ancesters learned.Poeple hate us until something happens then they want to suck on the tit of americas nuturing arms and get thier bellies full of our precouise resources.sure its a shame it happened but so is the fact we have small children abused and homless just as they are but havent always been.THIS IS NOT RACIST OR INCOMPASSIONATE JUST COLD HARD TRUTH THAT PEOPLE HATE TO HEAR SINCE IT MAKES THEM FEEL LIKE THEY ARE NOT ON THE HIGH HORSE THE SEEK TO RIDE IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC. TEND TO AMERICANS FIRST. they wouldnt be pirates and drug runners and so poor if they would try but why they know good ole america will put it out for them.THE KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO GOES FARTHER THAN THAT ONE QUICK CAN OF FOOD AFTER ITS GONE ITS GONE KNOWLEDGE LASTS.

-- Posted by ipledgeallegiancetotheCSA on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 9:07 PM

In case you're not aware, America also has its share of drug runners, criminals and people content with living off the money of other had working citizens.

I agree that in many cases we should be teaching people to fish instead of feeding them fish, but this is clearly not one of those cases. These people need immediate help. They don't currently have the time or resources to plant gardens and wait for them to grow.

Human compassion should know no boundaries. The people of Haiti are suffering and anyone who is willing and able to send aid to help relieve the suffering of the victims certainly shouldn't be made to feel guilty about it.

-- Posted by Nobody'sFool on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 10:05 PM

Hatred disguised as religion is nothing new, but it's also one of the main reasons I will always consider myself spiritual and not religious.

-- Posted by Nobody'sFool on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 10:01 AM

I could NOT have said that better! I am not religous but CHRISTian.

-- Posted by mmp84 on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 11:47 PM

Pat Robertson is a fake and anyone that listens to him and believes in what he has to say are fakes to. When I help someone out when I can I never want anything back in return.The good feeling in my heart is all I need.

-- Posted by rebelrosecountrymom on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 6:24 AM

As bad as it is it just shows me that prophecy is startingto unfold, there will be many more quakes all the other things spoken of in Revelation. We can do all we can to aid those in need[ though i do believe in helping ours first].If you believe in the theory of Bible Codesm California is due for a major quke this year, we will just to have to wait and see. Why can people not see the warning signs?

-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 6:41 AM

michaelbell ...... you may be right.But I pray that you are wrong.

-- Posted by rebelrosecountrymom on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 6:58 AM

for those interested here is a blog in defense of Pat Robertson

http://www.afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?i...

Listen to what he said ! He did not say God did it, he said it came from the deal with the devil!

-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 9:50 AM

Thanks, but I'm not interested in a blog in defense of Pat Robertson at all, actually.

Regardless of how you rephrase or try to explain what he said, he still said that these people brought this upon themselves.

Children were killed. Surviving children were orphaned and are now living in filthy outdoor conditions. Nothing you or crazy Pat Robertson have to say will ever convince me that these children brought this upon themselves or that we as humans should not feel compassion for them.

To stand in judgment of people who are living through such tragedy is incomprehensible to me. I'd like to suggest that Mr. Robertson spend more time praying for the Haitian souls that he believes are lost to the devil and less time saying, "I told ya so".

-- Posted by Nobody'sFool on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 10:03 AM

I should probably add that I've always felt that Pat is a loon and I'm not basing my feelings about him soley on this one remark. I find him to be intentionally controversial, usually in an attempt to garner attention. Which is exactly what I think Christianity should NOT be about.

-- Posted by Nobody'sFool on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 10:11 AM

rebelrosecountrymom on,

Why would you Not want the Lord to return? Just curious.

-- Posted by honda14 on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 10:51 AM

rebelrosecountrymom on,

Why would you Not want the Lord to return? Just curious.

-- Posted by honda14 on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 10:51 AM

In case you're not aware, America also has its share of drug runners, criminals and people content with living off the money of other had working citizens.

I agree that in many cases we should be teaching people to fish instead of feeding them fish, but this is clearly not one of those cases. These people need immediate help. They don't currently have the time or resources to plant gardens and wait for them to grow.

Human compassion should know no boundaries. The people of Haiti are suffering and anyone who is willing and able to send aid to help relieve the suffering of the victims certainly shouldn't be made to feel guilty about it.

-- Posted by Nobody'sFool on Thu, Jan 14, 2010, at 10:05 PM ........

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......... Yes im aware they do and actually how many of them of here from other countries especially around that region?...haiti cuba south america.......and no noone should feel guily for wanting to help them unless they see children and people struggling down our streets and turn thier noses to the air in disgust while acting high and mighty then going and sending something to others...then they should feel bad to live in disgust of thier own but help a place that survives on criminal activity through major major drug trades and pirating as well and tourism but thats not bad its good for them the tourism....OFCOURSE NOT ALL HAITIANS ARE BAD POEPLE BEFORE YOU GO AND ACCUSE ME OF SAYING THAT.And they do need help my only ? is how long did it takes for katrina to recieve all that help but haiti got it almost instantly???why is america always epecially in a money crisis always got to be the nuturing tit of the world.Thats my point nobody's fool American caint take care of its own hardely but it can darn sure play rescue hero to everybody else.How about for once people crawl off thier high horse in front of friends and such only worrying about their images and how they can put on a show""well i gave to haiti what did you do? or i gave to them but that little child down the street aghh they are nastey for get them"" thats my point...and what exactly is a christian but non religuose..if you beleive in god and follow him your christian..anything is just horse manure covering up insecurity on the subject either your christian or your not just like hyphonated americans....if you are born here your a american not mexican or afvrican american you was born here you american.its a cover up name.

-- Posted by ipledgeallegiancetotheCSA on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 10:52 AM

I have no idea what you're trying to say.

-- Posted by Nobody'sFool on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 11:20 AM

By the way, I never said I was Christian but not religious.

I said I am spiritual but not religious. Whether you like it or not, YOU do not get to choose how I refer to myself. That is between me and my God and neither of us require your input on the matter.

As for the rest of your post, I really don't understand what you're trying to say as it's virtually unreadable.

-- Posted by Nobody'sFool on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 11:27 AM

honda14....I did not say I did not want the Lord to return..I hope and pray that there is not a earthquake in California..

-- Posted by rebelrosecountrymom on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 12:07 PM

God's wrath was poured out on the Cross of calvery. I do not, for one minute think God is out "to getcha" when you mess up, otherwise we'd all be french fries.

Compassion and long~suffering is God's Nature shown in the Body of Jesus Christ.. In fact when the disciples wanted to call down fire from heaven on some Samaritans Jesus told them "they did not know what spirit they were of" so if God is calling down these Disasters he is working against himself...??? Sounds double minded to me.

I do not give stock to the gloom and doom preachers. Will we have disasters and touble... yes... Jesus said so himself.. but he also said "be of good Cheer I have overcome The World."

Now we can go and do likewise.

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 12:52 PM

People are referring to "our OWN" How would Jesus define that statement ? Who would he tell us to put under that cataloger ? As children of God, are we not as a whole in the group called our own? We should turn to prayer and ask God where we stand in this and what he would put on our hearts to do.

As for Pat, I will guess he turns more away from trust in God than he draws to it. Only my opinion.

-- Posted by wonderwhy on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 2:48 PM

Are there people who actually believe it is possible to make deals with the devil?

-- Posted by gottago on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 4:14 PM

A very good article that goes along with this whole thread.

http://www.relevantmagazine.com/life/cur...

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 5:08 PM

Jesus defines Our Own as Him. Matt. 25:35-40.. I was Hungry, I was naked, I was....

and they asked when did we see You Naked, hungry and in need?? He Said when you did unto the Least of these.... You do unto me.

It never said: only if I am white, protestant and

conservitive.

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 6:49 PM

Haiti Earth Quake history.

There is a history of earthquakes in Haiti, but the British Geological Survey estimates that the last one of this size was 250 years ago. There are around 50 earthquakes of this size somewhere in the world each year. There were major earthquakes in Haiti in 1860, 1770, 1761, 1751, 1684, 1673 and 1618.

The state religion is Roman Catholicism which 80-85% of the population professes. 10-15% of Haitians practice Protestantism. A significant yet unknown percentage of the population also practice Vodou traditions.

Napoleone di Buonaparte; 15 August 1769 -- 5 May 1821), History says that earth quakes happened before Napolene was born. Pats history is off. Is he saying that the catholic faith is false. If that is the case Mother Therisa was way off in her ministry to the poor.

All this information is just a google away. Do your homework on History and the nature of God.

-- Posted by bear on Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 6:57 PM

What Part Of The Word Of God We Just Don`t Understand,Jesus First Words In His Ministry Was Repent Or Perish,O` By The Way Perish Means To Be Destroy Violently, And This Applys To Our Universe And This Also Applys To Animals,Vegetation,Food,Human Body Soul.We Have A Devine Judge,He Has The Right To Judge Us,To Correct Us,To Push Us,And Even To Send Us To Hell For Our Disobedience To His Word.God Will Judg Us As A Human Being,As A Nation,As A Country. Being A Christian Is Not Going To Church,Or Being A member Of A Church,Or Paying The Thiths,It`s About Having A New Heart.A HEART OF GOD DOES NOT JUDGE,I Don`t Know Who Pat Robinson Is But If He Is On Jesus Side,God Will Judge Him When He Dies And Not Us,Remember If We Really Fill With God`s Love,And Have A New Heart We Should Be Doing God`s Will And Not Ours.O` Yes Everybody Knows About Haiti,But The Sadduce Thing I Allway Preach Is That More Then A Thousand Christiana Died Each Day,And They Are Going To Hell,Because They Are Disieving Themself.And They Think The Know Everything About God.So Repent Or Perish.

-- Posted by PEREZ9100 on Sat, Jan 16, 2010, at 7:51 PM

Just remember heaven wasn't made in America and it isn't made exclusively for Americans!!!

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Sat, Jan 16, 2010, at 8:50 PM

Let us not judge other countries.Our ancesters did things we are not proud of. Such as killing and taking land from the indians and enslaving africans. And they called themselves Christians.The people of Haiti are mostly catholic about 85%.If they are being punished for the sins of their ancestors are we next.

-- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, at 11:50 AM

http://www.gotquestions.org/natural-disa...

this might shed some light on why things happen the way they do.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, at 8:38 PM


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Lesa Cox has owned a cleaning service and a bookstore; now, she repairs and maintains computers for the elderly and others on a fixed income. She enjoys animals, gardening, books and fixing old cars. She and her husband have one son, who suffers from Asperger's syndrome.