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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008, at 12:03 AM

I know I'm old fashioned, but I am appalled by the movies shown on TV these days. I prefer to watch comedies or chick flicks, while my husband loves action movies. I don't go with him to watch them in the theater. I want to wait until they are on the local CBS, NBC and ABC channels. They may have sexual scenes, but they won't have that terrible language that is in the original movie. Some of those cable movies have words I never heard until I was grown, married and had children. One night last week my husband had gone to bed early, and I enjoyed watching Princess Diaries all by myself. Hallmark has some good made-for-TV movies too.

We haven't taken children to the movies in years except for an occasional trip with a visiting grandchild. Now they are all just about grown. Perhaps those PG movies are the ones I need to see.

I know about freedom of speech, and this is just my opinion. They can write whatever they want, but how can the writers of today's movies win awards? They just use the same foul words over and over and over. They certainly have no use for a dictionary or Thesaurus.


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Yeah anything above PG is guaranteed to have bad language and worse. The guide I go by to know what to expect:

PG-13 - mild violence and sexual innuendos plus guaranteed SH-word, GD and a rare F-word.

R-Rated - you will get racial slurs, nudity upper-front and backside, steamier sex scenes. Alot more cursing with no restrictions, Anything goes.

NC-17 - The only difference from Rated R is you see full frontal, but no genitalia.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Thu, Jan 31, 2008, at 12:31 AM

Before kids, I could have cared less about what offenses a movie had in it, but now, post kids, I am a PG-13 mommy.

My husband brought home a movie a few months ago that we both wanted to see, Knocked Up. During the whole movie, I saw nothing but topless women! There was even a scene in the movie with a guy getting a lap dance from a topless stripper.

By the end of the movie, I angry with the directors, producers, and anyone else that had anything to do with the movie.

I seem to be the only person out of all my family and friends that feels like nudity of any kind is not nessisary (sp?) in movies. Points can clearly be made with words, such as, "Wow, last night was great!"

That movie was clearly directed toward men.

Fowl language doesn't bother me, it's just the nudity.

-- Posted by Mary on Thu, Jan 31, 2008, at 8:07 AM

Nudity is the realm of XXX movies. As a man, I see no need for it in any of the mainstream movies. Nor is there a need for the obscenities.

Maybe a guy who just lost his foot on a land mine would not say, well darn, but the language thrown around in everyday conversation is unnecessary. I enjoy a good action move, but I would never miss the other crap.

-- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Jan 31, 2008, at 8:32 AM

I wouldn't mind a little realism but so much of the "adult" material is excessive,exploitative and unrealistic.

We still have nudity,blood,body functions,etc. treated with much the same squeamishness and "prettifying" as we did with post-Hayes Codes movies.

The difference is now we can insert unneeded bits of titillation and profanity into films that don't have or don't require mature,realistic depictions of these subjects.

The artificial and redundant addition of the nastier elements strikes me as just as offensive as indiscriminate censorship.

Neither helps tell a good story or shows respect for the audience.

I think that the more skilled creative people will very matter-of-factly show what they need to and artfully use music,lighting,discreet dialog and suggestion to imply the rest.

Ironically,many early instances of graphic gore,nudity,etc. were included because the test audiences imagined far more intense scenes than the writers had envisioned when they didn't have it all displayed blatantly.

Look at some of the scariest,most violent and most erotic moments in cinematic history.

Then note how many of them were done in less technological,less "permissive" times.

Candor is one thing.

Lack of imagination is another.

I'd welcome a movie that was rated "Mature Audiences Only" because it would be less reliant on gross-out tactics and might include plot and characterization.

Please,let's retire the sniggering schoolboys who make this bilge,o.k.?

Then we might get rid of the too priggish reviewers who over-react to such idiocy.

("This film rated UNSUITABLE due to "Language". What's that about? Is it in Farsi with no subtitles? Did someone use "I" in the objective case? )

Instead of giving us material that looks clunky and moth-eaten when edited,write something that holds up in a less sensationalistic format then see how much incendiary content really needs to be added.

"Sinless" stories.like "sinless" food have a reputation for being boring.

But,perhaps,they can both be made from materials that have enough flavor and substance on their own that nothing unhealthy needs to be dumped in to make them satisfying.

-- Posted by quantumcat on Thu, Jan 31, 2008, at 9:55 AM

I watch Turner Classic Movies and Hallmark Channel. The last movie I saw at a theater was in 2003 - Seabiscuit!

I agree, the language is horrible and is just an example of the degradation of our culture.

-- Posted by puppydinks on Thu, Jan 31, 2008, at 9:55 AM

Mary,

That movie you rented Knocked-Up, was Un-Rated. Hence all of the trash you saw.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Thu, Jan 31, 2008, at 11:20 AM

There are DVD players (don't know about VCR's) that are set up to filter out some of this content. I think the way it works is that you buy the service for a monthly fee and when you rent or buy a movie you can download the filter for that particular movie. You then feed that information to the player via a jump drive or something sismilar and then you can set it to how severe and in what categories it filters. Has anyone used one of these?

-- Posted by devan on Thu, Jan 31, 2008, at 12:32 PM

Yes, now that you mentioned that, Monkey, it was Un-Rated.

My Goodness, though, it was unnessasary nudity! LoL

It had a really good story line, and other than the nudity, I enjoyed the actual movie.

-- Posted by Mary on Thu, Jan 31, 2008, at 4:23 PM

We have a device called a "TV guardian" You hook it up to the TV and it filters TV and whatever movies you watch on DVD or VCR. You can set it to where it just blocks out the words, or what I have it on now- It blocks out the words and flashes up a caption that shows you the sentence with the curse word replaced.

-- Posted by starcat124 on Thu, Jan 31, 2008, at 10:10 PM

I don't worry about what my kids see or hear in the movies or on TV....they were taught by their bus driver that african-american kids were the "N" word, they learned the F word on the playground and one of mine asked me what oral sex was based on what one little boy told him in 2nd grade. Not including when my middle was 5 she came home shooting the bird cause "that's what they do in kindergarden"

No matter how you try to "protect" your children, it won't work. They are in the public school system and anything goes.

as for nudity in Movies, don't rent them. Anybody who has ever heard of Knocked-Up knows that it's trashy and full of nudity. That is why UNRATED is splashed on the box. But I don't have to worry about my kids seeing it, they watched with my sister while at my mom's house for Christmas, isn't that lovely?

-- Posted by Disturbia on Fri, Feb 1, 2008, at 7:31 AM

Disturbia,

Thats the problem with the Unrated on the box, it isn't part of the rating system per se. So it could mean one of three things, Unrated because it is just a feel good story or Unrated as anything goes or we too lazy to even care.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Feb 1, 2008, at 9:46 AM

There have been reviewers (Movie Mom,etc.) who can give parents a heads-up on a film's content.

Many of their sites have a conservative Christian perspective and most invite consumer reviews as well.

Negative ideas (like germs) are out there.

It wouldn't be wise to protect kids from all exposure to them even if it could be done.

Instead,try to raise children who are so healthy that they can overcome what evils they pick up from outside sources.

The foundation they receive at home and the good influences from elsewhere will leave them well-equipped to face the bad.

Just give them your positive slant and remain terribly unimpressed by inferior behavior.

The substandard values have only the power we give them.

Treat them as worthless more than dangerous or "edgy" and glamorous and kids will pass on them as easily as a green and writhing hamburger.

Give kids the tools for good judgement,make decent stuff available to them and trust our youth to be as dismissive of the smarmy stuff as it deserves.

-- Posted by quantumcat on Fri, Feb 1, 2008, at 4:34 PM


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