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Presidential primaries

Posted Tuesday, April 22, 2008, at 10:25 PM

Are you feeling worn out with all the presidential primaries?

Do you feel the primaries are being carried to the extreme?

Could all of the money raised and spent in the primaries have been put to better use for ALL Americans at this point in time?

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Absolutely without a doubt

-- Posted by DannysGal on Tue, Apr 22, 2008, at 10:37 PM

Actually most of these states that are having primaries haven't had a say in who the nomination goes to in a long time..I personally think every state should be allowed to vote in the primary instead of only a few states with the high delegate count controling who is actually in the general.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Tue, Apr 22, 2008, at 11:00 PM

What totally floors me is why anyone would spend this much:

Clinton: $183,671,081

Obama: $157,384,855

McCain: $65,112,112

(numbers obtained from www.opensecrets.org)

All this for a job that pays a total of $1,600,000 per term (2 max). Granted, they'll make more after their term for speeches to the Chinese people (like some former Presidents do).

-- Posted by Thom on Tue, Apr 22, 2008, at 11:14 PM

Yes, I am tired of it but it is mostly because of the negativity that has come from the candidates and the debates. Instead of dealing with real issues, they would rather focus on who they had their picture taken with or who lived down the road from them and etc. I love the fact that Obama tries to act as though he is taking the high road in all of this but yet he can sling mud with the best of them.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Wed, Apr 23, 2008, at 6:54 AM

With the primaries coming closer to an end and no Democratic Presidential nomination in clear sight. Do you think it is a good idea when Super Delegates have to name the nomination? Who do you think their choice will be? Keep in mind Obama has not won any large states and No President has ever won the general without winning the large states.

It makes me wonder how the Super delegates choose which person to run?

How angry do you think people will be when their candidate is not chosen regardless of who the Super's pick there will be one person left out who has carried a lot of support.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Wed, Apr 23, 2008, at 9:35 AM

Maybe we should include a talent competition.

Have people get put on the ballot based on support.

Give each candidate the same amount of time,funds and resources to perform certain tasks.

At the end of the time alloted,each candidate would be judged by how well his task was accomplished.

(Points would be assigned based on how many people he got to assist him,how much opposition or other obstacles he faced,how well he handled his budget,etc.)

Candidates (new,old,professional politician or regular citizen) would have had a chance to show (not just tell) how government under their supervision would be run.

Instead of Simon or Donald hosting this segment,we could have Ralph,Ross or Lamar.

(Any politico but Jerry Springer!)

Adding such a program couldn't earn us elected folk much worse than what we get now.

-- Posted by quantumcat on Wed, Apr 23, 2008, at 12:47 PM

The amount spent on the primaries is more than most of us will see or earn in our life time. Yes this money could be more wisely spent. I also feel this way on most of the high earning sport salaries that are out there, but I guess that would be a different topic.

-- Posted by Sharon22 on Wed, Apr 23, 2008, at 1:07 PM

It's all ridiculous. That's why people with little, to no money aren't truly represented. Though, keep in mind, those large sums of money come from PACs, organizations, etc... And some from individuals. I heard reports that Clinton raised $500,000 in the first 5 minutes after the "major networks" projected her to win Pennsylvania. Hmm, talk about oil companies being overcompensated.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Wed, Apr 23, 2008, at 9:52 PM

No President has ever won the general without winning the large states.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Wed, Apr 23, 2008, at 9:35 AM

Actually in 2004 Kerry won California, Pennsylvania, New York, Michigan, and Illinois and Bush only won in Texas, Florida, and Ohio.

-- Posted by devan on Wed, Apr 23, 2008, at 10:06 PM

I like Hillary the best, but honeslty Obama has won the popular vote thus far, the most states, and has garnished the most delegates..

I just want them to determine the candidate ASAP, it only serves to divise the party with their tearing down of each others character. In the end, they will nearly be forced to unite on the same ticket, otherwise it's going to be McBush for 4 years.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Wed, Apr 23, 2008, at 10:10 PM

Darrick, don't get me wrong, I don't like either one of them..well, any of the three...but the Democrats won't have a chance to recover before November with the way these two are going at it now. I just wish the Republican had this sort of thing going on so that maybe we could destroy both of these parties and start over...maybe the Whigs should have a comeback.

-- Posted by Thom on Wed, Apr 23, 2008, at 11:10 PM

Darrick I believe you are right they will have to run on the same ticket if they have any chance of winning the general. I believe Hillary would ask Obama to run as her VP although I can not say the same for Obama.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Wed, Apr 23, 2008, at 11:14 PM

I'm not sure Hillary would really want to be anyone's VP, or if it would even help Obama if he selected her as his running mate. With all of Obama's talk about change, moving forward instead of backward, and a new style of politics, for him to choose Clinton as VP would discredit his whole campaign, in my opinion.

On the other hand, if Hillary gets the nomination with Obama winning the most states, and the majority of the popular vote, I think she will definately need Obama on the ticket to win in November.

I am not trying to sound racist or divisive in any way, but it is no secret that black Democrats have overwhelmingly supported Obama, and there is symbolism involved with Obama being the closest any African American has ever came to becoming President. If Hillary wins the nomination through back room deals with superdelegates, how is she going get the support of the black community, when it will appear to many that Obama was robbed from becoming the first black President? I think Obama as VP is her only chance.

-- Posted by Richard on Thu, Apr 24, 2008, at 2:22 AM

I just wish the Republican had this sort of thing going on so that maybe we could destroy both of these parties and start over...maybe the Whigs should have a comeback.

-- Posted by Thom on Wed, Apr 23, 2008, at 11:10 PM

Instead they have a candidate who knows little about nothing. I wished I could like John McCain, he's aligned with the Dem's on so many issues, but I just can't. That big thing on his cheek, his inflexibility when talking, and his monotone voice just insinuate questions.

As far fetched as it sounds, nobody in their right mind would wish for their grandparent to come in to their modern day household and lay claims to what is right and wrong, and show you how to get your house in order. I feel it's no different than being the leader of your country. I'm not saying an older person isn't qualified, because he definitely is. The question, however, is practicality, common sense, and unwavering determination to undo the simultaneous destruction of our image on a global scale and the unraveling of consumer confidence in our own country. I just don't see McCain has having EVER offered that. He has even said, "I think American's are, overall, better off than they were 8 years ago." Of course, when you consider the rich have gotten richer and you now have a horrific trade defecit, highest inflation in 17 years, an adminstration that has not and will not hold any company liable for the theft of entire family's life savings... He has done nothing to speak against these things, in fact has painted an extremely rosy picture. In every state thus far, including heavily "red states" the total Democratic vote has nearly doubled, in most cases tripled that of the entire Republican vote. It's a definite sign that someone needs to clean up after the second Bush, just like the preceding Clinton did after the first Bush.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Apr 24, 2008, at 7:03 AM

To tell the truth,some grandparents and great-grandparents could offer some much needed skills and good advice.

They could show us how to do amazing things on next-to-nothing,have a hopeful attitude and how to put common sense and personal honor ahead of instant gratification and a "programmed" mentality.

They'd know how to blend the old and the new and respect both according to their merits.

That's what a certain generation learned from approximately 40 years of turmoil (a Depression,a World War,a Cold War and all the other growing pains of our modern society).

They,in turn,inherited the legacy of the Industrial Age,the Civil War,new states,new immigrants,pandemics,the Spanish-American war and the Great War.

We have,at times,become too cynical,too complacent and too helpless.

If we can combine the virtues of our age (increased diversity,more available knowledge,better communication,better gadgets) with what they enjoyed (self-sufficiency,strong communities and families,pride in service and accomplishment,devotion to freedom,fair play and charity),we can create a future that embodies what our elders have to offer and what we have achieved thanks to the foundation they provided for us to build upon.

-- Posted by quantumcat on Thu, Apr 24, 2008, at 4:51 PM

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