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Politics, politics, politics

Posted Monday, October 13, 2008, at 3:20 PM

I'm not a political person, never have been and never will be involved in politics 24/7.

Is it wrong that I'm tired of all the half-truth accusations every time I read something or turn on my television?

I know which candidates I will vote for, and, yes, in a few cases I don't like either candidate and will vote for what I consider the lesser of two evils.

Do you know which candidates you will vote for at this point? Is there any chance you could be convinced to change your mind?


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I think I will write my own name in. j/k

-- Posted by AFlynn on Mon, Oct 13, 2008, at 3:26 PM

I think I will write my own name in. j/k

-- Posted by AFlynn on Mon, Oct 13, 2008, at 3:26 PM

No, Nothing will convince me to change my vote. Although, I'm not pleased with the choices. I am sick of hearing it all as well Mr. Melson.

-- Posted by newgrandmommy on Mon, Oct 13, 2008, at 3:34 PM

I GUESS I"LL VOTE FOR THE LESS OF THE TWO EVILS! MCAIN NEED TO GET SOME BACK BONE WHEN HE DEBATES!!!!! GET ROUGH! BE THE MAN HE WAS IN THE PRISION CAMP.

MAY GOD BLESS HIM. I PRAY GOD'S WILL BE DONE!

-- Posted by silver on Mon, Oct 13, 2008, at 4:03 PM

Same old yada, yada from both sides, but yes I am set and no I can not see my mind changing.

It is a clear choice for me, but not one that I am excited about.

-- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Oct 13, 2008, at 4:18 PM

I try to take at least 2 days a week off from it. No news from the TV or radio no blogs. I try not to hear it, because I get disgusted.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Mon, Oct 13, 2008, at 4:51 PM

I am thinking of doing a coin toss :>)

-- Posted by Dianatn on Mon, Oct 13, 2008, at 5:49 PM

"Do you know which candidates you will vote for at this point? Is there any chance you could be convinced to change your mind?"

----> Nope. Unless the Republican ticket was forced to split and Ron Paul took over the ticket.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Mon, Oct 13, 2008, at 6:49 PM

National elections I know who I am voting for and will not be changing my mind. Local elections I am 90% sure, so there is a remote possibility for change, but very remote.

-- Posted by Sharon22 on Mon, Oct 13, 2008, at 9:45 PM

Only way I would change my mind would be if Ron Paul would run or Obama was relegated back to the junior league where he belongs and he was replaced with someone with true leadership and understanding of what is happening.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Mon, Oct 13, 2008, at 10:22 PM

Do you think McCain knows what's going on? As is evident by his faltering campaign and erratic behavior... A new message every day.

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 6:19 AM

Yes I know who I am going to vote for....No changing my mind at all...At 1st I was not so sure...But now I really feel good about it...I feel that McCain has no backbone and needs to get one...

-- Posted by rebelrose on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 6:54 AM

Nascarfanatic . . . you would argue with a wall if given the chance. Bo asked a question and I put forth my opinion . . . how is mine any more or less valid than yours?

That is why I am tired of this election and mostly of Obama supporters (I think Obama himself is a great person). People like you continue to be abusive and hateful and assume anyone that isn't for Obama is for McCain which is not true and just goes to prove how one-sided you really are. I have yet to have a McCain supporter harass me when I have told them that I will more and likely not vote for him but yet with Obama supporters, have been labeled everything from a racist to a few not so nice names. Who is the enlightened bunch now?

-- Posted by jaxspike on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 7:17 AM

jaxspike....I agree with you....i am voting for Obama...I would love to have his sign in my yard...But there are too many mean and rude people around here...I am scared that my yard will be rolled or even something worse....I have even been told that I must be a N---er lover from someone in a store I was having lunch with my son....How wrong is that ????? i can not believe that I am coming out and telling who I am voting for on here...there are some people that know who I am....In this day and age we should be able to speak out who we think will be good...I really believe that he will be good for us...For one thing he will be our 1st black man in the White House and I believe he will prove to us all that he will work hard for us all...No matter what color his skin is....I like the things he has been talking about...i believe that he will get all our men and women home from the war...I feel that he will help to see all our children that want more schooling than High School beable to get it...I like what he talks about helping people with no insurance....I really believe that he will be good for us....

-- Posted by rebelrose on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 9:19 AM

Regrettably, nastiness is not unusual for either side. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,4376...

-- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 10:45 AM

Neither is my choice, but my mind is made up to who I will vote for and will not be changed. I'm sorry, but I don't understand the ugliness of people these day, because if a green alien was running in this debate and I thought he was our best chance it would not matter that he is a green alien. This has been the most disgusting thing I have seen going on at Mccain/Palin rallies, they have incited a lot of unnecessary hatred at thier rallies that was not called for, it is something I do not like seeing. I think Mccain could have backbone without the ugliness.

-- Posted by wonderer on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 11:15 AM

I am afraid it's happening on both sides wonderer . . . I have seen some ugly things on the Obama side too. McCain at least has made it a point to correct some the comments that have been made. All I have heard from Obama is that his supporters are suppose to get in your face and argue if you dont believe what they do.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 11:40 AM

My mind is made up also, but for a different reason.

My neighbor talks so much about Obama that I have had to empose a no contact ruling against her until the election is over.Everyday my e-mail is full of crap about him, I keep telling her I do not like the man and would not vote for him for any reason.She leaves junk about him in my mail box and attached to my front door.

Don't get me wrong I'm not for McCain either but I'm going to vote for him just to void her vote for Obama.

-- Posted by redcat00 on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 4:58 PM

Maybe I've just been blind, but I don't remember any other election every having been this nasty and hateful before. It's sad, actually.

I've seen friends and family literally turn on each other like rabid dogs. It's shameful.

I feel like I can't have an open, honest conversation with anyone about the election without being slapped with a label. I honestly dislike both of the candidates and I have no idea what I'm going to do.

-- Posted by Nobody'sFool on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 6:20 PM

Don't get me wrong I'm not for McCain either but I'm going to vote for him just to void her vote for Obama.

-- Posted by redcat00 on Tue, Oct 14, 2008

I have heard a lot of people say the exact same thing.

Or the reasons I find amusing are : I am Voting for McCain because he's not Obama or I am Voting for Obama because he's not Bush.

It is a shame that people have had to resort to voting for someone just because they aren't someone else.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 6:45 PM

Ralph Nader 2008 Contact: Rodger Clark - State Coordinator - Unionville Tennessee 931-619-2149

-- Posted by memyselfi on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 7:01 PM

Ralph Nader 2008 Contact: Rodger Clark - State Coordinator - Unionville Tennessee 931-619-2149

-- Posted by memyselfi on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 7:01 PM

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...........or just state the following, "I (your name) choose to totally throw my vote away and continue to live under the allusion that I have no resposibility for what happens to this country!"

-- Posted by bedfordcounty on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 8:13 AM

A wasted vote is a vote for someone you know does not represent your own beliefs and principles. A wasted vote is a vote for someone you know will not lead the country in the way it should go. A wasted vote is a vote for the "lesser of two evils." Or, in the case of John McCain and Barack Obama, what we have is a choice between the "evil of two lessers."

-- Posted by jaxspike on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 8:49 AM

Well in the middle of this next administration, whoever wins, I will proudly say "dont blame me, I wasted my vote" I refuse to vote for anyone who does not represent me or who I feel will destroy this country. So I will gladly "waste" my vote.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 9:22 AM

I feel my vote does not count anyway, because they only go by the electoral votes unless something happens like a tie,or the race is very close.

As far as who to vote for I feel that Obama does not have a lot of experience. Yes everyone loved him when he became known, but what has he done for his state; the state that elected him, Not a thing.As soon as he was elected he started running for President.I do not like his back ground, the people he associated with and in some cases still does.Have we forgot his trip this summer to Europe; where he talked so bad about our country, the country he wants to RULE.He has his own Network on telivision right now 24/7 Obama, if you have the Dish Network you can find it.

Maybe a few more terms in his present job, might do him some good; and change my views on him.Take care of your resonsibilties to your home state Mr Obama, before you try to take on the world.

-- Posted by redcat00 on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 9:31 AM

Yeah, I wish more people saw it that way and then we would probably have a far better selection of candidates to choose from.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 9:33 AM

Maybe a few more terms in his present job, might do him some good; and change my views on him.Take care of your resonsibilties to your home state Mr Obama, before you try to take on the world.

-- Posted by redcat00 on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 9:31 AM

You should research his record as an Illinois State Senator. Needless to say there is a list of things he has been a part of, so to simply state he hasn't done anything for Illinois is purely opinion, based on the inexplicable word experience. Take a look at Abraham Lincoln's record/experience and compare it to Obama's. I don't think Obama will be as good a president as Lincoln but you can not observe the records and see much of a difference.

No, I don't believe Obama is the messiah or anyone else. I don't believe he is going to do everything he says he wants to do, nor have I ever believed ANY elected official to that extent. However, it has never stopped me from supporting them because I do agree with 90% of their ambitions and goals, even realizing half of those will never be achieved (in their term).

For those interested: Debate Watch Party (Democrats) E. Lane Street @ the Lane Street Inn, tonight at 7:30.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 10:04 AM

I will tell you I am voting for Mr. Obama, I dont think there is anything that will be said that can change my opinion but Im sure it is possible( we are all human) but my biggest fear as an African American is that he gets elected and turns out to be the absolute worst president ever

-- Posted by volhater on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 10:19 AM

While I am not voting for Obama, I would hope that race would not factor in how people would perceive the job he has done.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 3:11 PM

bedfordcounty, There is not much responsibility anyone can take for what happens to this country as a result of this election. We are given a choice between two parties that have the same basic ideology. Any vote in this election is unfortunately being "thrown away". Making a choice to go left or right will ultimately make no difference if you end up at the same destination anyway. Also, thanks for your concern, but I won't be wasting my vote by voting for Nader, I will refuse to waste my time even going to vote unless something changes.

-- Posted by memyselfi on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 6:35 PM

I agree memyselfi.

I am hoping to hear "Something" tonight besides name calling and mud slinging.

If I don't then I am right there with you,memyselfi.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 6:56 PM

There is only two reason people vote Republican.

They are either Ignorant or they are sorrier than Hell.

-- Posted by Seeker of Truth on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 7:27 PM

Even though I have always considered myself a Democrat I personally know a lot of Republicans which are neither Ignorant or Sorry

-- Posted by Dianatn on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 8:22 PM

I don't know who Joe Plumber is but I hope he gets his plumbing business and his insurance

-- Posted by Dianatn on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 9:56 PM

Is Joe the Plumber related to Joe 6 pack? What in the world is up with this tag lines? LOL. Hilarious.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 11:10 PM

There is probably at least one other reason that people vote Republican and that is people like Seeker of Truth.

-- Posted by devan on Thu, Oct 16, 2008, at 8:43 AM

There is only two reason people vote Republican.

They are either Ignorant or they are sorrier than Hell.

-- Posted by Seeker of Truth on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 7:27 PM

____________________________________________

So is safe to assume you'll be voting for Mr. McCain using your own logic.....

-- Posted by tgreader on Thu, Oct 16, 2008, at 10:15 AM

It seems Joe the Plumber has larger fish to fry besides worrying about what his taxes might be if he ever makes over $250,000.

It appears Ole Joe the Plumber is not even a licensed plumber and has a tax lein against him for not paying his 2007 taxes.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Oct 16, 2008, at 9:21 PM

Hmm, seems like the exact type of person McCain would use to attack Obama with. LOL... His lousy choice of empathy was about as lousy as his V.P. pick, where are the people who do the vetting in his campaign? Do they exist?

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Oct 16, 2008, at 10:36 PM

http://www.palinaspresident.us/

This is a very humorous site.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Oct 16, 2008, at 10:38 PM

gees, I got so lost reading responses that when I finished reading them I had to go back and re-read what Bo had written. Upon re-reading I found that Bo had ask three questions that reguired simply yes or no.

-- Posted by plainandsimple on Fri, Oct 17, 2008, at 2:54 PM

gees, I got so lost reading responses that when I finished reading them I had to go back and re-read what Bo had written. Upon re-reading I found that Bo had ask three questions that reguired simply yes or no.

-- Posted by plainandsimple on Fri, Oct 17, 2008, at 2:54 PM

Hmm,

Did you answer? Nope..

I will, yes I know whom I will vote for, and I don't know what could change my mind.

-- Posted by Disturbia on Fri, Oct 17, 2008, at 9:48 PM

I feel sorry for Obama. The mudslinging against him from conservatives is ridiculous. I mean, it's been said that he's Muslim (nothing wrong with being one; he just isn't), the anti-christ, a terrorist, a baby killer, a non-citizen of the United States, need I go on. I haven't heard any thing of this kind against John McCain, but there is plenty out there that could be said. I'm really tired of the dirty politics this time.

I do know who I am voting for. I am voting for Obama, because I have liked him since I first heard him speak at the 2004 DNC. I've kind of followed his career since then, and I've been so impressed with him. No, my mind can't be changed at this point.

-- Posted by tamb on Sat, Oct 18, 2008, at 12:30 AM

How is asking questions about a candidate mudslinging? Should we just vote for someone on their word never asking where theyve been or how theyve got where they are? How about the constant attacks on Sarah Palin, unfit she may be, but she has been attacked more fiercly than any other in this race. If this "mud" being slung has no basis in truth then why is he avoiding most questions like the plague?

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 11:33 AM

greasemonkey,

You have to understand no one wants a dirty Messiah. Even if he is false.

Do not blame them for wanting to keep the mud off him.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 12:04 PM

Please tell me which questions he hasn't answered, because he has answered all of them. Besides that, how can anyone truly believe he is the anti-christ? Why even respond to something like that?

Parkerbrothers, I don't believe he is the Messiah. I don't agree with him on everything. I just think it's a shame that people are resulting to false accusations to keep a man from being president.

-- Posted by tamb on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 12:26 PM

What about the 20+ associations with people of questionable past. I dont mean they got a dui 25yrs ago, Im talking about terrorists, socialists, communists,racists, radicals etc etc etc.

There is some questions about his citizenship. I believe he is a citizen, but some people want to know for sure.

Who funded him through college, what all went on in his college years?

What about his associations with ACORN?

Farakhan says he is the messiah by the way.

It goes on and on, most of it is ignored by the mainstream media, so to say that he has answered all the questions is just turning a blind eye.

I dont believe he is the Antichrist, people who think that are just silly.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 12:47 PM

Here is the answer to the questions about his education.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/mon...

Also, here are more.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/oba...

Factcheck.org is another good place to start with information.

Have you read his books? That's another good place to start.

Also, if we wanted to get dirty, McCain cheated on his wife and left her after she was disfigured in a car accident. What about the Keating 5 mess he was involved in? He has voted against bills to help veterans.

-- Posted by tamb on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 12:59 PM

tamb,

I do not believe McCain hides from the questions as his opponent does. I think the questions about Obama would go away if the answers come forth?

A little honesty would go a long way.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 2:14 PM

Khalid Al Mansour still has not said he did or did not help pay for Obamas college. The stories around this keep changing, people say one thing then they take it back. It is still very shady.

Still no questions answered.

His books are even under question now, so much for that.

You are right about McCain he is a sorry sob for what he did to his wife. That is one of the top 5 reasons I will not vote for McCain. I still cant understand when I ask a question about Obama I get an answer about McCain or Bush.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 2:41 PM

Obama and his wife paid for their college with student loans, which they paid back with the proceeds from his books. Please read the link.

I don't normally bring up McCain's past. I don't think it does any good, and I hate playing dirty. But, those supporting McCain don't seem to have that problem. I only brought it up to show how neither candidate is exactly clean.

-- Posted by tamb on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 2:45 PM

tamb,

No human is exactly clean. It is just the fact that some will acknowledge anything that appears dirty and some had rather wear a long sleeve shirt to hide it.

I do not expect a perfect human for president. I do however appreciate one trying to be straight up.

Why the long sleeves with Obama?

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 3:13 PM

I read the link. Still does not make it true or false. The question is still there and not answered. Just because the Obamas say it does not make it the gospel.

Still no answers.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 3:15 PM

Parkerbrothers, I don't see McCain opening up too much about his affair or his involvement with the Keating 5. He also likes to keep it hidden that he voted with Bush 90 percent of the time and also voted against helping veterans, when he claims to be on their side. I don't see Obama as wearing long sleeves.

I take what he says at face value, just as I do McCain. I feel like Obama has answered the questions, but some people are just not going to be satisfied with the answers no matter what he says.

-- Posted by tamb on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 3:20 PM

I would accept the answers, but there are to many others involved in it that were there and tell a different story, so who do you believe. Even if he paid with student loans, which he may have, I dont know. That still leaves alot of other questions on the table. There are still alot of people he has been connected to that we need to hear some answers on. We still dont have any answers about acorn. We found out more about Joe the Plumber in 24hrs than we have found out about Obama in 12mos.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 3:48 PM

We found out more about Joe the Plumber in 24hrs than we have found out about Obama in 12mos.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 3:48 PM

greasemonkey,

Quite a good point when you think about it.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Tue, Oct 21, 2008, at 4:12 AM

I don't see Obama as wearing long sleeves.

Posted by tamb on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 3:20 PM

tamb,

It would not be called deception if it were easy to see.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Tue, Oct 21, 2008, at 4:13 AM

tamb,

It would not be called deception if it were easy to see.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Tue, Oct 21, 2008, at 4:13 AM

Then you must see McCain as wearing long sleeves, too, because he isn't talking too much about his affair or his involvement in the Keating 5. What do you think about those things?

-- Posted by tamb on Tue, Oct 21, 2008, at 12:06 PM

tamb,

Have you seen him asked to produce something and he refuse or fail to provide.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Tue, Oct 21, 2008, at 4:34 PM

I didn't think so.

Amazing the number of Obama questions that can not (or will not) be answered.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Thu, Oct 23, 2008, at 7:26 AM

http://www.ralphbristol.com/article.asp?...

I say this guy is dead on, and he wrote this article two years ago, but then again, that's just my opinion.

-- Posted by syd37160 on Sun, Oct 26, 2008, at 12:12 AM

syd37160,

I believe you are dead on that this guy is dead on.

Looks like He hit the nail on the head even 2 years ago.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sun, Oct 26, 2008, at 8:01 PM


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