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Appropriate punishment

Posted Wednesday, February 11, 2009, at 4:35 PM

Call it tagging, gang or wannbe gang activity or whatever, it still amounts to intentional defacing of public and private property.

What do you think would be appropriate punishment for those caught doing this ridiculous deed?

I think they should receive everything the law allows, regardless of age, plus one year of public service geared toward public beautification.

And...their parents or parent should be made to spend at least eight hours each Saturday and Sunday for one year, regardless of weather or other circumstances, cleaning up the mess their kids and others like them have made plus other public projects.

What are your thoughts?


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I think that some form of whipping or caning, wouldnt be out of line. I fully agree that the parents should stand accountable for some of this if the accused are minors(and apparently they are). These kids would probably be considered victims from a poor family environment and given probation without any form of actual punishment.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Wed, Feb 11, 2009, at 5:11 PM

A old fashioned trip to the woodshed sounds about right.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Wed, Feb 11, 2009, at 5:50 PM

There is no other way to deter this kind of stuff that I can see.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Wed, Feb 11, 2009, at 5:57 PM

This is what happened to one of the last guys that messed with my angel statue.

http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo297...

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Wed, Feb 11, 2009, at 7:04 PM

Roflmao, that's great.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Wed, Feb 11, 2009, at 8:40 PM

Shelbyville has allowed itself to become nothing more than a sanctuary city for illegals. Along with these people came the MS-13 thug "wannabees". You could say that Shelbyville has begun to reap what it has sewn.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Thu, Feb 12, 2009, at 1:05 AM

the "system" seems to scared to punish these people for fear of offending certain groups.

Lawsuits terrify the ones in charge so they are willing to let things slide if you will.

race color, creed, does not matter to me, you should be punished for your crimes.

I don't mean a slap on the wrist either, chain gangs still sound good to me.

Our government I am not proud of, my country I am!

-- Posted by michaelbell on Thu, Feb 12, 2009, at 4:49 AM

A great idea would be to make them wear a sign in front of Wal-Mart or in a high traffic area(the intersection of Madison St and North Main St) that states that they were found guilty of vandalism and make them stand out there all day and get a good deal of embarrassment and ridicule from the general public. Maybe they could also go and have people shoot them with paintball guns with no protection . . . that might deter them a bit. LOL!

-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, Feb 12, 2009, at 6:44 AM

Evilmonkey that was soooo funny!!

I think a public humiliation session is in order for these thug wannabe's. Public whipping would be ok in my book. We'd certainly see less crimes.

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Thu, Feb 12, 2009, at 7:31 AM

I'd have different answers for people who were deliberately trashing a place versus those who attempted to make it their own by decorating it,

We might not approve of some of the tagging but,in certain cases,it might have had as much to do with pride and self-expression as if they'd "trespassed" to plant flowers or pick up paper and broken bottles.

Different motives require different responses.

The people who want to stake a claim on an area need to be directed to the public property we all "own".

Remind them that public or private property belongs to someone and the rights of the people who take responsibility for those places matter just as much as their stake in what they possess.

The people who want to create beauty or make a point can get their chance through legitimate channels.

This would give them appropriate recognition in a way that would create a bond with the community.

People who use painting or scratching to do damage would be treated no differently than those who set fires,break windows or deface and destroy by any other means.

Those with bad intentions can't seem to add value to any part of life.

As a result,they feel compelled to erase the efforts of those who can improve their surroundings.

In their hands,graffiti is a tool to steal and violate the same as a knife or hammer.

Like that knife or hammer,graffiti can heal and build as effectively as it can be used to invade or serve as a weapon.

Places that have more experience with graffiti might have more solutions and strategies.

(The practice has been around in countless places even before Biblical times.)

Criminal acts like trespass and vandalism need to be put down hard and their perpetrators need to be singled out and censured when they are merely hateful,weak and useless.

Those who act up out of pain or who are trying to enhance their world or make a statement need to be embraced.

They are the folks whose energies can be directed into constructive channels and celebrated.

The issue is the person rather than the performance.

Those who seek to create and contribute will find some means and won't be hindered if their efforts have the approval of those around them.

Those who want to sabotage others' happiness and productivity will also use any means available but gain no advantage if they can't cause fear,hate,despair and frustration in their intended victims.

Again,we need to focus on the messenger rather than the media.

Good hearts (even if they belong to graffiti artists) can help make our town a Camelot led by heroic knights and kings.

Minds poisoned with spite will make our town a junkyard riddled with broken toys.

-- Posted by quantumcat on Thu, Feb 12, 2009, at 8:28 AM

That's cute EM.

My son and a few of his friends like to BMX. They go to different areas to try their tricks, Tullahomas Bike park, and the Metro in Nashville sometimes too. They are trying to get prepared for a sponsor when they get out of school in two more years. He and two of his friends were approached by the police, frisked, and had to empty their bags and pockets, give their names and addresses last week, his other two friends went riding the next day and were searched again. They were told they will get a $1,000. reward if they could help turn in anyone they see doing these paintings on the buildings. The police are doing the right things, they will eventually start catching those behind it, even though I think they are mostly mexicans that are doing it.

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Thu, Feb 12, 2009, at 1:18 PM

"A great idea would be to make them wear a sign in front of Wal-Mart or in a high traffic area(the intersection of Madison St and North Main St) that states that they were found guilty of vandalism and make them stand out there all day and get a good deal of embarrassment and ridicule from the general public. Maybe they could also go and have people shoot them with paintball guns with no protection . . . that might deter them a bit. LOL!

-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, Feb 12, 2009, at 6:44 AM"

But within their own circle that could be considered a badge of honor to go through the ridicule and humilition. It would be, kind of, a martyrdom for them. The paintball guns idea is nice only if we get to freeze the paintballs first.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Thu, Feb 12, 2009, at 3:04 PM

LOL what does that have to do with the President? Watch Fox News much?

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Thu, Feb 12, 2009, at 3:40 PM

Well if we had a half-way decent city police force we might get something done. Have you seen the size of half the cops, they are too busy stopping to eat to go out and fight any crime. I say fire half the useless force and get some real police officers in this town that can actually chase down a suspect if needed. Most of the suspects could just casually stroll away while these pathetic "cops" are still trying to pry their butts out of their cars.

-- Posted by Vindicated on Fri, Feb 13, 2009, at 2:53 PM

Kids & trees have a lot in common. If you plant a fruit tree you need to prune it so it will develop into the shape that will produce the most and best fruit. When it starts to put out its first buds for branches the prudent grower will examine the bud locations and select the ones they want for scaffold branches and rub off the other buds. If the "bad buds" aren't rubbed off and they develop into unwanted branches then they can still be pruned off the following fall with little hand clipers, but if they are left for another year it will take a long handled pruning shear to remove them, If not done then the following year it will require a saw, keep delaying the "discipline" and then it's time for the chain saw to make fire wood.

So when raising children or trees it's best, easier and more productive to nip it in the bud than to use a chain saw/lethal injection.

The Bible tells us to raise up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart therefrom.

-- Posted by Brown Biscuit on Wed, Feb 18, 2009, at 1:07 AM

"NIP IT! Nip it in the BUD!!!"

Thus saith one of our law enforcement legends.

http://www.moviestore.com/library/photos...

You don't get to be a legend without being on the ball about important things.

-- Posted by quantumcat on Wed, Feb 18, 2009, at 6:19 PM


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