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Just Rambling

Posted Wednesday, March 4, 2009, at 3:54 PM

We've heard so much recently about college for everyone. Tons of money from the taxpayers plus money from multiple other sources to pay for it, of course. Is and should college be for everyone? Should equal amounts be made available for those who wish to enter professions which college has never covered and likely will never cover? At what point do you weed out the professional students? Yep, we have some of those out there.

If you were caught in an emergency situation such as extremely bad weather conditions, which type people would help you the most, those who have the ability to work with their hands or those whose main ability is talking?

Why have some of the huge banks we are bailing out, like it or not, given multi-million dollar bonuses to top executives for horrible business practices that got their respective banks such trouble in the first place? Would you like to see a farmer who has faced all kinds of obstacles for many years to make his living be placed in charge of determining when and if these executives receive more than their base salaries?

Would you trust a person who thinks he is too good to dig a ditch or push a wheelbarrow?

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I wonder if the 'bonuses' are pay-offs to keep quiet.

I have always been amazed that CEOs will leave a company just before it goes bankrupt and then resurface to do it again. Do they belong to special 'brotherhood'?

-- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 5:17 PM

Ahhhh, Bo Leave it to you to open this can of worms..lol

I think College should be for everyone who is accepted into college and if they can not fund their college there should be help for them. Does that mean everyone should attend? No many people are not capable of attending College nor do they have the desire. I too know some people who are professional students and there should be a limit to 4 years on any government money for college. Anything past that ...would have to be funded by student loans or however they saw fit to fund it..

I have yet to understand why some big banks and companies (ie AIG) continue to receive bailout money but yet they allow others to fail. I somehow have the feeling somebody at the top has a stake in these banks they are bailing out. Why Else would they allow some to fail yet keep others afloat?

The farmers need as bailout more than these banks as do the American worker. Without someone at the bottom doing the work none of these companies will survive.

The Tennessee Lottery has made tons of money for Higher Education: Why wouldn't a Federal Lottery do the same thing for Higher Education Nationwide?

-- Posted by Dianatn on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 6:41 PM

College for everyone has devalued the service. While Tennessee has a low percentage of college grads, trying to get everybody and anybody through the door and out is not he way to do it.

I never supported the lottery scholarship notion. Too many kids who really are not college material are coming through the doors, choosing easy majors that really don't educate but only 'train', and are emerging as an embarrassment to the 'educated set'. Even master's degree programs are too busy catering to the working adult to be much more than an exercise of hoop jumping.

Further, an increase of needed student services, faculty positions, parking spots,and buildings has demanded an upward pressure on tuition prices and student fees.

The lottery implementation was the impetus for the droppping of the credit hour requirement. From 132 hours to 120 hours for graduation,this reduction does nothing to improve the education of these kids.

-- Posted by gottago on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 9:37 PM

I guess that's why there is chocolate and vanilla Ice Cream because I do not see it that way at all. Just because a student needs help paying for college does not make him incapable of being a good student.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 10:04 PM

There are good students on scholarships, merit scholarships, but an ACT score in the low 20's should never give anyone a nearly free ride. For those from lower incomes, Pell Grants are avaialable.

-- Posted by gottago on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 3:45 AM

About 86% of students lose their hope scholarship after the first year because of low grades and it almost impossible to get it back. My daughter was a 4.0 in high school and had a ACT of 25 but took a math class froma man who barly spoke english and she failed it lost her scholarship and has never been able to get it back and she is a chemisty major going on student loans.

-- Posted by bellbuckletn on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 8:30 AM


There is no doubt your daughter has had to work MUCH harder than her friends with non-science/math majors. It seems that regardless of school and regardless of state pure science and math faculty demand more and are much less likely to tolerate unwillingness to work, tardiness, and all bad things that students do.

Please encourage her to hang in there,though. The science/ math degree may take longer to obtain (for every one class there is usually a 3 hour lab component, preventing most from enrollng in afternoon classes) but pushes students to think outside of the box and expand their intellectual limits. I wouldn't have traded my Biology/chemistry degree for anything.

As a matter of fact, I found that graduate classes outside of the pure sciences were nowhere near as challenging as the science undergrad program, and didn't bring as much away from them.

Tell her to hang in there. It's worth it.

-- Posted by gottago on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 11:17 AM

bellbuckle I can relate. My first programming class (heck the first time I ever SAW a computer) was in fortran from a guy from Pakistan. To this day, I couldn't tell you a word the guy said. Like gottago said though science and math are hard. But I learned so much more than just math and science. Discipline, organization, toughness are the real lessons learned with a math or science degree. That's the reason they're prized in the real world.

-- Posted by Tim Baker on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 7:13 PM

Of course, the Democrats have had it thier way the past 2 years. The market we see today is a direct result of the "do nothing Congress" led by "what's her name" until the economy was in crisses and then the blame game began. The real estate adjusters have still not been reeled in and worthless property will remain over priced and the real estate agents just get bloated on your money. CEO and unjustified bonuses for management and in some companies the employees get super bonuses and plenty of "bennies" at our expense. I personally don't care if a lazy non-working bloke starves, if, he is afraid to work digging ditches, etc.. . Can't afford a house then don't buy it. Can't afford a new car don't buy it. Can't afford credit cards, then don't apply for one. Won't work, when you can-then-Go to H- - - -. I hate free loaders and dopers and thieves and etc... How is that for rambling. Yes, I blame the Democratic Controlled Congress and all the Americans who hire illegal immigrants. Super Dude doesn't have the answers, he is just a liberal being "Super Silly" with our future, money, and our earned freedoms. If teachers are to blame for our successes, then we must blame them for our failures. Right is Right. Now is the time to pay them what they are really worth "how does minimum wage sound?"

Do you get the point? Everyone needs to look in the mirror. We are where we are, because our actions and apathy, have made us victims as a nation.

-- Posted by dipperdan on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:25 PM

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Bo Melson is a retired sports and police beat editor of the Times-Gazette. He passed away November 15, 2014, at age 81.
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