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We're doing a lousy job with sexual offenders

Posted Thursday, March 4, 2010, at 2:25 PM

Something must be done...now...about how we are dealing with those registered as sexual offenders.

The death of the outstanding young girl in the San Diego area is, unfortunately, only the latest in the long list of these people committing sexual crimes multiple times.

We must deal with this continuing and growing problem with common sense, not political sense or those who claim they can straighten out these vicious predators by counseling them.

How do you think America should deal this problem of sexual offenders who strike again and again and again?


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They should be catheterized with a glass pipette and then have it smashed with a rubber hammer.

Another alternative would be to recreate the scene of Joe Pesci and his brother in the cornfield, from the movie Casino. Type 'Pesci beatdown-Casino" in a youtube search if you want to see what I mean.

Not nice by any stretch, but is it more "civilized" to let innocent children continue to be victimized?

As for the shrinks who say they are cured. They should have to sign a contract with the courts saying if they person reoffends the shrink will accept the same punishment as the offender.

-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Mar 4, 2010, at 2:50 PM

I think they should have the death penalty and carry it out.

All people in prisons should have to serve ALL of

the sentence, not just a certain percent of it. That is just not right!! At least if they are in prison, they are not hurting anyone, especially an

innocent child!

-- Posted by nomountainman on Thu, Mar 4, 2010, at 3:03 PM

I got no problem with the death penalty

-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Mar 4, 2010, at 3:10 PM

You know come to think of it I have just as much of a problem with these so-called mothers who allow their drug infested boyfriends to molest their children then take up for the boyfriends or will not listen to their children telling them what is happening. These kind of mothers deserve the same punishment for being blind and not listening to their children.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Mar 4, 2010, at 3:15 PM

Theres a sex-offender here in Shelbyville that has violated the sex offender registry,and violation of probation for writing checks, this makes 3 times for not registering. And here he is gonna get JUST 55 days. And it can be around children, because the victim was barely over 13. Its a shame when our children aren't safe because their own mothers put their lives in jeopardy by wanting to be around them. Mothers that let their children be around sex offenders (knowing that) SHOULD be punished too. There are just feeding their chidren to them.

-- Posted by Kitten459 on Thu, Mar 4, 2010, at 5:20 PM

I believe that they should be locked up and put away forever. Do not let then out. If they jails get to full then they should be put in a mental hospital forever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by rebelrosecountrymom on Thu, Mar 4, 2010, at 5:35 PM

one word ,CASTRATION!

-- Posted by michaelbell on Thu, Mar 4, 2010, at 7:23 PM

Never thought it was possible, but I have to agree with MichaelBell this time.

-- Posted by gottago on Thu, Mar 4, 2010, at 8:54 PM

A sex crime involving a child should be tried with the same sentencing tier as a murder. When someone violates a child they are messing that child up for the rest of their life. A murderer takes a life. A child molester alters a life. Same difference. The only problem is, the lawmakers of this country do not have the nerve to implement that type of punishment. I just wonder how many pedophiles are walking around in our judicial system? I know of a few pedophiles here in Bedford county who will never do jail time for the horrendous crimes they committed because of friends high up on the judicial food chain. All I have to say is, what if that was your daughter, niece, cousin, granddaughter, etc.... How would you feel knowing that someone touched your 5 year old daughter and was never made to do jail time? MAKE THESE PEOPLE PAY!!!! I totally agree with all the remarks made already but Quietmike's remark was what I would have chosen!!!! Hit them where they will never be able to ruin another child's life!!!!

-- Posted by bcpwoman on Thu, Mar 4, 2010, at 9:35 PM

A Dr. Clint Van Zandt (author of a book called "Facing Down Evil) is advocating a "One Strike Law for Sex Offenders." The law would unify the punishment of sex offenders. If convicted of rape against a child - one strike and life without parole. It also would prevent them from moving from state to state to avoid harsher punishment when the law in one state is not the same as another. It also separates the consensual sex crimes from the violent rapes of children. For more information, one can go to LIVESECURE,org.

-- Posted by amalphia on Fri, Mar 5, 2010, at 9:48 AM

While I basically agree with most of the comments on here, there is a part of me that feels that people should be given second chances and while many of these offenders go to repeat the crime, there are many who do not. When these individuals serve their time, they are force to register and are shunned by the community and have a hard time finding a job and so they are basically guaranteed for future failure with no real help to successfully integrate back into society and deal with their addiction or sickness. How can anyone really try and change when they are already been labeled and advertised to the community by the sex offender registry and monitoring by the police?

I don't have the answer and don't pretend to . . . there has to be a better way though than just locking them up for life at taxpayers expense or castration (which by the way doesn't solve anything . . . they will still commit acts of violence without sexual organs) and etc. The current system does not work that is for sure.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Fri, Mar 5, 2010, at 10:37 AM

You are right Jax, sex crimes are almost NEVER about sex - they are about violence and the need to control or assault someone else.

I've always thought that the sex crimes registry is a little perverse. Other violent criminals are not treated as such ( murder is much worse than molestation) and it seems that those who can be rehabilitated or have their pathological neurological imbalances conrolled via meds are not exactly given a fair shake.

People are WAY to paranoid when it comes to protecting children from sex offenders but don't exhibit that same enthusiasm for protecting them against other types of crime. Seems weird.

-- Posted by gottago on Fri, Mar 5, 2010, at 11:13 AM

Gottago . . . you said it better than me.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Fri, Mar 5, 2010, at 12:59 PM

When a person is gay they say "they are born that way" they can't be changed, it is in their DNA, who they are. The same with straight people it is how they are born. ( I am NOT going into good or bad or any debate on gays here, nor do I want to) I am not comparing them to sex offenders in any way. These are not bad people. I'm just pointing out the biology factor.

Ok Here is my point, if they say people are born with their sexuality traits, their DNA, and it can not be changed "it is who they are" WHERE IN THE NAME OF GOD DO THEY GET THE NOTION THAT SEXUAL OFFENDERS CAN BE ""CURED"" ??????? THEY CAN NOT BE CURED, IT IS WHO THEY ARE ACCORDING TO MANY!!. They should not be released into society ever. If as they say we are born with our sexual identities this is simple who and what they are, and to release them back to society will not change them only endanger others.

-- Posted by wonderwhy on Fri, Mar 5, 2010, at 2:54 PM

Kind like Tiger Woods going in for treatment for him wanting sex all the time and not just with his wife but with many. i think that is the most stupid thing I have heard of.How is him talking about it with a group of others like him and then alone with his doctor going to stop him from having sex like a rabbit. Was he born that way too????

-- Posted by rebelrosecountrymom on Fri, Mar 5, 2010, at 8:21 PM

Wonderwhy

You can't compare homosexuality and the propensity toward sexual violence. Homosexuality results in NO inherent danger toward others (regardless of what the fundametalists would tell you)wheras sexual predatory behavior does. There is no sexuality in such only the urge for violence and control.

Just as there are murderers that can be rehabilitated with proper med, sex offenders can to...often the underlying causes are one in the same. Whether the pathology is a result of rage over sustained abuse or a neurochemical disruption or abnormality, SOME not All of these criminals can be treated with cognitive behavior therapy and/or medication.

To compare homosexuality and sex crimes is preposterous.

Rebelrose, think for just a second. Other than infidelity did Tiger Woods commit an act of violence against anyone? There are outlets for an out of control sex drive that do NOT result in assault.

-- Posted by gottago on Fri, Mar 5, 2010, at 8:53 PM

I have an idea....take the offender to an abandoned shack or other eyesore. Nail their "private parts" to the floor with a sixteen penny nail. Then set the shack on fire and throw them a rusty butcher knife with a serated edge.

It would work every time.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Fri, Mar 5, 2010, at 10:02 PM

rebelrosecountrymom . . . so you are basically saying that everyone person is the same and that any tendencies they have come from the same source? That reasoning is so flawed that I dont even know where to begin. So many factors come into play in why a person does something or what they become . . . their environment, chemical imbalances within their own body which influences psychological and social behavior, beliefs, previous experiences and etc. Many people can be cured of sexual violence when the rooted cuase is exposed and treated while others can not be treated because the cause is so deeply rooted that there is no known way of treating it or the person simply chooses that behavior and does not wish to change. For you to lump all people in one box and say they are all the same and nothing can change is the same insane reasoning that causes people to misjudge many groups of people. To basically lump homosexuals in the same group as sexual predators is such an injustice to those who are gay because you are equating them to a dangerous violent behavior which is wrong.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Sat, Mar 6, 2010, at 2:06 PM

To compare homosexuality and sex crimes is preposterous.

Posted by gottago on Fri, Mar 5, 2010, at 8:53 PM

Why? They are both disgusting. I personally could overlook sex with animals of the opposite sex and under-age sex with the opposite sex easier than homosexuality.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Sat, Mar 6, 2010, at 6:56 PM

jakspike...I was not talking about homosexuality at all..That is not what I meant when I said was he born that way. You took that wrong on your own. I have never put a gay person down. NEVER..I am sorry that you took it that way. I should have not said anything against Tiger Wood either. I guess it just bothers me when a person cheats on their spouse so many times when they have a family.

-- Posted by rebelrosecountrymom on Sat, Mar 6, 2010, at 10:29 PM

I have an idea....take the offender to an abandoned shack or other eyesore. Nail their "private parts" to the floor with a sixteen penny nail. Then set the shack on fire and throw them a rusty butcher knife with a serated edge.

It would work every time.

-- Posted by Tattoos & Scars on Fri, Mar 5, 2010, at 10:02 PM

Aren't you glad though that you were treated with mercy and forgiveness by the people for what you did?

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, at 6:56 PM

somecommonsense,

That was hardly necessary. Your previous comment was tasteless,too.

-- Posted by gottago on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, at 8:01 PM

gottago,

I'm not a winemaker so I worry little about the "tasteless".

It was necessary in order to prevent the casual "just sweeping it under the rug".

Hey, perhaps I'm just old fashioned. I still see a queer as being queer. I grew up hearing my great-grandparents, my grandparents, my parents and every neighbor and friend recognizing queer as just simply queer. Even today I still hear 99% using the age old definition to identify this group of morally corrupt and misbehaving.

Keep in mind though, it is just my honest opinion. Much like yours is your opinion.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, at 6:50 AM

WOAH gottago, go back and re read my post !!!!

I said I was not comparing them, what I did was say that if we are born predisposed to sexual tendencies, like it is claimed we are when speaking of Homosexuals, then these preditors ( I did not say gays were preditors) are born that way and thus can not be cured......

Never did I say gays are a danger, I made it clear I was not discussing gays pr. say.

Here is what I said again.....

When a person is gay they say "they are born that way" they can't be changed, it is in their DNA, who they are. The same with straight people it is how they are born. ( I am NOT going into good or bad or any debate on gays here, nor do I want to) I am not comparing them to sex offenders in any way. These are not bad people. I'm just pointing out the biology factor.

Ok Here is my point, if they say people are born with their sexuality traits, their DNA, and it can not be changed "it is who they are" WHERE IN THE NAME OF GOD DO THEY GET THE NOTION THAT SEXUAL OFFENDERS CAN BE ""CURED"" ??????? THEY CAN NOT BE CURED, IT IS WHO THEY ARE ACCORDING TO MANY!!.

If you misunderstood, I'm sorry i wasn't clearer, if your trying to manipaulate what I said , shame on you which ever I DID NOT SLAM GAYS...

-- Posted by wonderwhy on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, at 12:41 PM

In the last three years, more than 17,000 convicted sex offenders have been unleashed upon residents of California for no other reason than financial expediency. One of those released was just arrested this weekend for allegedly brutally raping and murdering a 15 year old honor student and he is a "person of interest" in the rape and murder of another. There are many, many other examples. This madness has occured in California because they are broke. Why? Liberal policies that dictate that the government provide everything for everybody. Californians passed Megan's Law, designed to protect children from sexual predators. However, the powers that be have neglected the protection of children in the name of the almighty dollar.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, at 3:00 PM

I have never really thought of it as wonderwhy has suggested. Unfortunately I don't think that question will ever be answered.

Personally, I think WE as a nation should make it a federal offense. A no tolerance policy should be adopted. You offend one time and your done. PERIOD.

A person knows if they have a problem. We are each responsible for ourselves and our actions. If a person knows they have a problem would they not be more inclined to seek help rather than face a death sentence? I would like to think so. In time if people whom did not seek help went on to commit such offenses, then you shall see no tears here when they are taken off behind the woodshed carrying a shovel. If a premeditated crime (not an accident or heat of the moment type situation) has been committed that will forever alter the life of the victim, then the perpetrators life should cease to exist. PERIOD. No appeals, no legal loop holes. NONE. You rape a little girl, your done. You choose to sell drugs, you done. You choose to kill someone, your done. PERIOD.

I'm sorry if I offend some of you. I just personally feel there is a time for compassion, a time for forgiveness and a time for us as a nation to stop being so worried about saving everyone. Not everyone wants to be saved or will acknowledge they have a problem, lets face it some of them ARE the problem.

Let's cut out the grey area and make it right or wrong .. I bet more would choose right rather than risk life by choosing wrong. And if they choose wrong, so be it. It was their choice. I'm sorry for their family, sorry for them, but that was that person's choice. Second chances do not get extended to the victims. I can forgive a person but that doesn't mean their life will continue.

Obviously I am not going to write detailed offenses and possible punishments for each, so before you get into the statutory rape cases etc .. please use some common sense and realize what I am trying to get at here. :)

-- Posted by Average_Joe on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, at 9:58 PM

There is a sex offender around Pickle St. Right now he is in jail. Be careful. Watch your children.

-- Posted by Kitten459 on Wed, Mar 10, 2010, at 6:24 PM

How about our local policeman being accussed as a sexual offender of a minor? Wonder why it didn't make the front page of our lovely little paper??

Where's the lynch mob crew that is usually ready to hang someone once they are accused?

Oh, that's right, he's a policeman and they are never guilty. Hehe

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Wed, Mar 10, 2010, at 7:08 PM


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