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Posted Monday, November 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM

Once again a person on death row in Tenneesee is awaiting execution by lethal injection and, as usual his attorneys are filing appeals claiming the lethal injection process here is cruel and unusual punishment.

I've never seen a murder where cruel and and unusual punishment hadn't been inflicted on the victim or victims.

And, those murderers appointed themselves judge and jury before imposing their version of the death penalty on the victim or victims.

I can understand the opinions of those who oppose the death penalty. Personally, I found it a sad moment when a murderer received the death penalty. Maybe I don't understand my own feelings about people telling that person he or she must die.

What are your thoughts on the death penalty?


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I am personally for the death penalty. However, I would like to see it changed. I don't see the since of letting a murder or child molester sit in prison and receive housing, clothing, and 3 hot meals a day when their victims are 6ft under or are scarred for life. I would rather see the suspect put to death within the 1st year of his or her trial. I have no problem of pulling the switch or sentencing someone to die for their crime.

I am tired of our tax money being spent to house these creeps. They do not deserve to be housed or treated better than most people simply because they are in prison.

I worked at a medium security prison for about a year and they are treated better than most homeless people or poor people. Their punishment for their crime was to sleep all day in an air conditioned or heated room. Wake up for meal time, shower, watch tv/movies and then lights out for bed. And don't forget about their laundry gets done, their food is prepared for them, etc. What kind of punishment is that? If the penalties on crimes were much tougher, I don't think that there would be as much crime as there are today because people would be too scared to commit a crime and be sent to prison. But now, people really don't care if they get sent to prison because it isn't punishment anymore.

-- Posted by PrpleHze on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 2:46 PM

Ditto to what PrplHze said.

I don't understand the arguments of cruel and unusual punishment...Look at the punishments that were meted out during colonial times and it's obvious the framers didn't think they were unconstitutional, and they had much, much worse (read more effective) punishments than we have.

-- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 4:35 PM

Double Ditto. Why do judges not try to envision the 'cruel and unusual punishment' that the innocent victims endure? Those low-life scum-balls that prey on the suffering of others should be strung up by their toenails and tortured indefinitely. If they aren't put to death, they should have to suffer the worst that could be thrown at them, every day for the rest of their lives.

-- Posted by ILoveRoses on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 5:10 PM

Hundreds of people that were sentenced to death have later been found to be innocent of the crimes they were condemned for. There will always be corruption, and or mistakes made in any work force, Politics, Police, and yes.....Prosecuting Attorneys, Judges, and jurors.

As long as we have a death penalty, every now and then an innocent person will be put to death due to mistaken identity, fasle testimony, bogus evidence, corrupt investigation, etc.

Some will say this is the price we pay. I disagree. Even one innocent death proves the death penalty is wrong. I'm sure most Republicans would disagree with me, unless of course that one innocent person happened to be them.

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 5:23 PM

I am for mercy. I think that the one charged with murder should at least be shown the same amount of mercy that he/she showed to their victims. With the technology that we have today such as DNA testing I think that one year is more than enough time to clear them if they are innocent.

-- Posted by leeiii on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 5:45 PM

Even one innocent death proves the death penalty is wrong.-- Posted by Rocket Valentine

Compare that one innocent death to the ~30% recidivism rate for murderers who are not executed.

Which plan really costs more, in human lives?

-- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 5:45 PM

DNA evidence in murder cases has been used since the 1980's. Yet, still most of the death row inmates that were later found to be innocent sat on death row for 10-15 years before being set free. If we only gave them a year to figure it out, as a few of you have suggested, then we would now have about 150 documented cases of innocent people being put to death. That's why we have these long, drawn-out appeals. It actually costs the taxpayers more to execute a person, than it does to lock them up for life!

That's just one of the many reasons that I believe in a LIFE sentence, with NO PAROLE.

I also think that Death, for the 99% of them that are guilty, is the easy way out.

Lock them up in that cold 8x8 concrete cell and let them be miserable until the day they meet their maker.

I can also argue some other points. "PrpleHze" seems to think that the Death Penalty may be a deterrent. That just before a person goes to kill someone they might stop and think.."hey, wait a minute...does this state have the death penalty?"

"I better not do this."

Doesn't happen. In fact, murder rates are actually higher in states that HAVE the death penalty.

It's just my opinion, but when I add up all the pros and cons, the death penalty just doesn't work for me. I'm totally against it.

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 7:13 PM

I also think that Death, for the 99% of them that are guilty, is the easy way out.

Lock them up in that cold 8x8 concrete cell and let them be miserable until the day they meet their maker.-- Posted by Rocket Valentine

Unfortunately, criminals don't share the same belief, as demonstrated by the vast majority who fight and appeal to steer clear of a death sentence.

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I can also argue some other points. "PrpleHze" seems to think that the Death Penalty may be a deterrent. That just before a person goes to kill someone they might stop and think.."hey, wait a minute...does this state have the death penalty?"

"I better not do this."

Doesn't happen. In fact, murder rates are actually higher in states that HAVE the death penalty.-- Posted by Rocket Valentine

Compare that to the fact that states who have allowed citizens to carry concealed weapons have seen a reduction in crimes.

The difference is the immediacy and finality of punishment when a citizen defends himself versus the circus that is our judicial system.

The deterrent effect is lost because criminals do not respect the punishments of our judiciary.

-- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 7:25 PM

Unfortunately, criminals don't share the same belief, as demonstrated by the vast majority who fight and appeal to steer clear of a death sentence.-- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 7:25 PM

Exactly. And if we didn't have the death penalty, taxpayers would also save billions by eliminating all the appeals that go along with it. Life without parole is much more cost effective. Is it not?

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 7:43 PM

Cost effective, yes, but only because of how the justice system is administered.

Overall effectiveness goes to the death penalty as dead criminals do not become repeat offenders.

-- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 7:51 PM

Inmates with a life sentence and no parole can't be repeat offenders either.

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 7:58 PM

Murders, rapes, robberies, and assaults happen in prison all the time.

Escapes happen too.

-- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 8:01 PM

Forget lethal injection,why can't we go back to old-fashioned public hangings?That would give someone a little bit to chew on before taking another human beings life.In July of 2009 I had two friends who were murdered along with four other people.Some of you might remember seeing it on the news.It happend in Fayetteville-not very far from here.A man named Jacob Shaffer killed his wife,father-in-law,brother-in-law,step-son,his step-son's friend(who was spending the night), and a close family friend.These people didn't deserve what happend to them.Now he gets to sit on his butt in jail day in and day out.If he does get the death penatly he won't feel even an ounce of the pain that his vitims felt.The only thing he will feel is a little prick of the needle.Furthermore,if there is a date of execution set it will be probably 20 to 30 years from now.The government is going too easy on criminals these days.

-- Posted by tenthingsiloveaboutyou on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 8:13 PM

Rocket Valentine,

So life without parole will cost less. Let's see:

*3 hot meals a day

*Fresh clean clothes

*Cable TV

*Telephone

*Housing

*Bedding

*Water for shower/drinking

*Toiletries

*Email accounts / library / computers

*College classes/GED classes

*Extra security for the extreme violent ones

I don't see where keeping them in prison for the rest of their lives verses a bullet or rope which cost a few dollars, equal out.

-- Posted by PrpleHze on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 10:31 PM

I am a firm believer of the death penalty.. but I can also see Robert's side of this also. I would hate to know that a child of mine was innocent and put to death for a crime he/she did not commit.

But when you are on the other side of a crime you naturally want vengeance. It would not be a decision I would want to have to make. I think it would be very hard to play God and take the life of someone who I didn't even know much less if he was truly guilty or innocent.

Not trying to change the subject here but do you think Wiki leaks owner Julian Assange and PFC Bradley Manning should be prosecuted? or do you believe it is our right to hear what our elected officials are doing and saying? Since when is it a crime to tell the truth even if it is about our government. I have read a lot of these files I see nothing in any of them(yet) that would be a threat to our national security or the lives of any person. Most of it is just the truth instead of the bunch of lies that the American people have been fed. I think it is high time we all know what is really going on.... But somehow I think this was not the transparency Obama spoke of LOL

I have read alot of comments from people saying Wiki leaks is not a reliable source but evidently there is some truth in the scripts because the White House sure has gotten their panties in a wad over them.

I find it amazing that I have yet to see a blog about this.....Thom where are you? :)

-- Posted by Dianatn on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 11:20 PM

Not trying to change the subject here but do you think Wiki leaks owner Julian Assange and PFC Bradley Manning should be prosecuted?

-- Posted by Dianatn

IMO Wiki leaks is a government created propaganda/disinformation program. I have no doubt that our government has "cyberwarriors" and other practitioners of the "dark arts" that could quickly put an end to wiki leaks...if they wanted to.

-- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Nov 30, 2010, at 3:44 AM

Not trying to change the subject here but do you think Wiki leaks owner Julian Assange and PFC Bradley Manning should be prosecuted?

-- Posted by Dianatn

IMO Wiki leaks is a government created propaganda/disinformation program. I have no doubt that our government has "cyberwarriors" and other practitioners of the "dark arts" that could quickly put an end to wiki leaks...if they wanted to.

-- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Nov 30, 2010, at 3:44 AM

Prplehze, Yes. It is a fact that it costs more to execute a person than it does to put them away for life. Google it. Do some research if you don't believe me.

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Tue, Nov 30, 2010, at 4:00 AM

Murders, rapes, robberies, and assaults happen in prison all the time.

Escapes happen too.

-- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Nov 29, 2010, at 8:01 PM

Yes, Prison is not a good place to be. Even thou PrpleHze will tell you it's a cakewalk. But nobobdy has ever escaped from any of the new supermax prisons. The only people you hear of escaping from prison these days are the ones in minimum secrity, working clean-up detail and stuff.

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Tue, Nov 30, 2010, at 4:34 AM

Yes, Prison is not a good place to be. Even thou PrpleHze will tell you it's a cakewalk.

Posted by Rocket Valentine on Tue, Nov 30, 2010, at 4:34 AM

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I never said that it was a "cakewalk". People do get stabbed, murdered, raped, robbed, etc. They also still use illegal drugs, cigarettes, and alcohol in there as well.

I cannot tell you how many times I did cell searches and found drugs, cash (which is also illegal in prison), as well as shanks. Prison is still a dangerous place, but so is living on the streets and reality. You have the same amount of chance being murdered out here as you do in there.

As for escapes, yes they happen. Even in medium security. I have heard first hand at least one escape, where they were able to bust out the door leading to the rec area of the unit and throw mattresses over the barbed-wire fencing to escape. They were caught several minutes later.

And you also have some prison guards who aid in supplying illegal stuff and helping inmates escape. My first month on the job, they arrested a male guard for bringing in cocaine and pot for inmates. Another female guard was arrested for trying to help an inmate escape.

But back to the subject, I wouldn't have a problem with life sentences, if prisons were real punishment like they used to be. No steak dinners, no cable TV, no exercise yards, no movie nights,etc. We don't send felons to prison to be rewarded. We send them to prison to be punished and reformed.

-- Posted by PrpleHze on Tue, Nov 30, 2010, at 6:19 AM

Dianatn, I will post your comment and others about Wiki leaks on a separate blog.

-- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Nov 30, 2010, at 6:49 AM

As pointed out above, I don't think the criminal takes our justice system seriously. It becomes a game.

I also agree with PrpleHze that prison should take a few steps back and become real punishment. Oh, it would be to most of us, but the repeat offenders probably see it as a temporary change of living arrangements and play the system.

I believe they should work to pay off their debt to society or at least defray their expense of being there. (Do they still have workshops in prison?)

Take away ALL but necessities and only provide them to inmates who agree to work and work well.

Maybe they will learn the rewards of hard work, learn a profession, be rehabilitated? Maybe.

Start with basic food, water, toilet sink and bedding. Then add reading material, education classes, exercise room, TV etc. after they agree to work, and if they slouch off, take stuff away again.

Speaking to the costs of appeals, etc., who is getting this money? Maybe we need to look at that as well.

Is it lucrative to defend inmates? In most civil cases I have seen, the only ones who really benefit are the legal folks involved. Is this similar in criminal law?

-- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Nov 30, 2010, at 7:15 AM

It costs the taxpayers of Tennessee an average of $37,800.00 per year to house your average inmate. That cost nearly doubles for inmates on death row due to the extra security involved. However, I'm pro-death penalty for reasons other than the waste of taxpayer dollars. I believe that society has a moral obligation to permanently rid itself of those who intentionally, maliciously and callously take the life of another human being. Rapists and child molesters should be chemically castrated and never see another day of freedom. Their victims are scarred for life.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Tue, Nov 30, 2010, at 10:17 AM

Awaiting Execution:

I believe Punishment should fit the Crime! People have this extraordinary ability to adjust in the environment they live. So many of the criminals adapt and enjoy prison life. Happy to awake in the morning to begin their day with sports, exercise, gambling, television, movies, homosexual behavior, drugs and on and on with things to please them; "That makes them laugh and play!" There are a few that cannot adjust and also a few that want to live right and be productive. I have been there and have seen the scum! I have also seen good even though it was minute. The biggest problem with the penal system is the ability to pluck the few good ones out of the rotten bunch. That problem increases because so many of the ones in charge are unqualified. In prison are the good, the bad and the ugly although mostly the bad and ugly. The ugly need to be dealt with abruptly! I say fry them, burn then, hang them or whatever; "Some just do not deserve to live!" This will allow the possibility of getting out to repeat the crime or to repeat the crime while locked up on someone worth the effort. Getting rid of the ugly may possibly help in rehabilitation. "In my opinion!"

-- Posted by thudsn on Tue, Nov 30, 2010, at 10:28 AM

Posted by thudsn on Tue, Nov 30, 2010, at 10:28 AM and corrected by thudsn. Changing (This will allow} part of sentence.)

Terminating will prevent the possibility of getting out to repeat the crime or to repeat the crime while locked up on someone worth the effort.

-- Posted by thudsn on Tue, Nov 30, 2010, at 10:56 AM

I hate the thought of someone being murdered young or old. And when no mercy is given to them I feel the guilty party should suffer the same punishment.

As for justice, there is no justice! Everyone is tried by Statutory Jurisdiction which is a form of Admiralty Law. Statutory Law is nothing more than the Uniform Commercial Code. This is a Commercial Law that protects businesses and big Corporations. This Jurisdiction is used on traffic tickets and/or murder cases.

Do you want to be tried by a business law where you have very few rights? That is like Admiralty Law where the government has rights over the defendant.

Hanging, electric chair, firing squad and gas chamber is bad enough and severe punishment, but lethal injection is something else.

They are given a shot that calms them down. It looks like they are resting peacefully then injected with a poison that finishes them off.

Here is what really happens, or so I saw a doctor describe on TV once.

The first shot paralyzes them so they can not move a muscle. It looks like they are at peace but they are just paralyzed so they can not move, speak, or scream in pain or terror.

It doesn't stop any pain they are having from the poison they get injected with that attacks their nervous system. They can't move, speak or scream, only stare in pain until they are dead.

Now that is a cruel punishment that I could only recommend in certain murder cases. And if it was the wrong person...?

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Tue, Nov 30, 2010, at 8:34 PM

I am against executions, however if the victim is someone I like. or a relative, then by all means I demand the perpetrator be executed immediately. If the victim is me, then I demand the perp be run over by an eighteen wheeler and then thrown into a vat of powerful acid.

-- Posted by Grits on Tue, Nov 30, 2010, at 8:55 PM

If the injection method is as described, that is excessive (unless maybe it is administered by the family who lost their loved one).

BUT, I have been under sedation enough times to know that I DON'T KNOW A THING. So, if it is as stated, then someone with sadistic tendencies developed the process and that person needs to be watched carefully.

-- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Dec 1, 2010, at 7:49 AM

Rope is cheaper than chemicals, and a good hanging is instantaneous if the hangman is experienced.

-- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Dec 1, 2010, at 1:19 PM

Rope is cheaper than chemicals, and a good hanging is instantaneous if the hangman is experienced.

-- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Dec 1, 2010, at 1:19 PM

I agree, and the rope can be used over and over again.

Unique-Lies, the same way that we kill a person with chemicals, is mostly the same way that we euthanize animals. And this may sound cruel, but who really cares if the demented and sadistic murderer goes through pain. They surely didn't care about the pain that their victim was going through. I understand that there may be innocent people in prison, but with DNA testing and with science evolving, there are no reasons for mistakes. If the person does not want to die on death row or in prison, then simply do not commit a crime.

-- Posted by PrpleHze on Wed, Dec 1, 2010, at 2:45 PM

what does God say about this?

-- Posted by the hand on Wed, Dec 1, 2010, at 3:35 PM

The reason a hanging rope has a big knot tied above the noose is to break the neck of the hanged person. It makes a loud snap sound when the perp drops. I have a feeling that if hangings were conducted on Saturday mornings, at the courthouse lawn, where all could see, murders would become almost zero.

-- Posted by Grits on Wed, Dec 1, 2010, at 3:39 PM

Just for argument sake, if hangings could make the murder rate "almost zero", why did it not work when hangings were the popular method of state executions?

-- Posted by Sharon22 on Wed, Dec 1, 2010, at 5:00 PM

If they are 100% guilty with out a doubt.. take them out back and line them up for the firing squad. No more expense needs to be wasted on housing the criminal. Just a cremation.

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Wed, Dec 1, 2010, at 7:05 PM

what does God say about this?

-- Posted by the hand

Pretty sure he says to honor the laws of the land.

-- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Dec 1, 2010, at 7:54 PM

The laws of the land should be determined by the will of GOD.

-- Posted by wonderwhy on Wed, Dec 1, 2010, at 8:37 PM

The laws of the land should be determined by the will of GOD.

-- Posted by wonderwhy

That's funny coming from the most liberal poster on the blogs. Liberals usually want to erase any parallels between God and government.

-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Dec 2, 2010, at 6:50 AM

Sharon22 The reason murders happened when hangings were allowed, was because the perpetraters had not witnessed an actual hanging. NO ONE ever even considered killing another with the sight of the cracking noise of the neck breaking and the body shaking, twitching, horrible bulging eye balls and the face turning bloody red. Of course, a few may have forgot about the picture during a rage, but remembered it real quick when the noose was fitted to their neck.

-- Posted by Grits on Thu, Dec 2, 2010, at 8:40 AM

Lets say the IRS Troops broke into your house at 3am in the morning wear ski masks and in surprise you shot one thinking they were burglars, or even the Undercover agents doing a bust on the wrong house at the same time and you shoot one in self defense.

You weren't protecting your family or property, you shot a cop and will face murder charges. Should you be given the death penalty? I think not, but that is up to the Maritime Courts of Commercial Law and a jury.

Florida stopped giving the death penalty for rape in hopes that the victims wouldn't be murdered. Not sure how that worked out because today people will kill you at the drop of a hat for no reason at all.

If someone is pleading for their life especially when they plead because of their family they would be leaving behind and are killed, then I think the Family member should be able to take turns doing whatever they wanted to until that person is dead.

Thing is, is that person the one? And in our court systems today, a murder could be released because the courts or officials didn't follow proper administrative procedures.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Thu, Dec 2, 2010, at 1:07 PM

At one time pick pockets were hung in England, while the hanging was going on, other pick pockets were doing guess what? Picking pockets, another words stealing. It didn't work then and it doesn't work now to prevent others from commiting crimes. It you use the words punishment with the death penalty is one thing, but prevention is another.

-- Posted by Sharon22 on Thu, Dec 2, 2010, at 1:21 PM

the hand

You asked "what does God say about this?"

God said an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. He also said the murderer is to be put to death.

Numbers 35:16-21 (King James Version)

16 And if he smite him with an instrument of iron, so that he die, he is a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death.

17 And if he smite him with throwing a stone, wherewith he may die, and he die, he is a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death.

18 Or if he smite him with an hand weapon of wood, wherewith he may die, and he die, he is a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death.

19 The revenger of blood himself shall slay the murderer: when he meeteth him, he shall slay him.

20 But if he thrust him of hatred, or hurl at him by laying of wait, that he die;

21 Or in enmity smite him with his hand, that he die: he that smote him shall surely be put to death; for he is a murderer: the revenger of blood shall slay the murderer, when he meeteth him.

Numbers 35:30

"'Anyone who kills a person is to be put to death as a murderer only on the testimony of witnesses. But no one is to be put to death on the testimony of only one witness.

Nahum 1:2 (King James Version)

2 God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth; the LORD revengeth, and is furious; the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.

But that was all in the old testament. In the New Testament Christ done all the teaching and I don't recall him telling anyone to kill anyone. It was more like Christ would punish the evil doers when He returned.

Those who aren't killed by His Plagues (God's Wrath), He would slay himself personally with the sword that protruded from his mouth.

Revelation 19:19-21

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

(This verse alone tells us much more than just what is written here: First John says I saw the Ruler of the ONE WORLD ORDER and all the Leaders of all the governments (kings of the earth) and all of their armies (the United Nations Armed Forces) and they gather together to make war with Christ when He returns with his army of Saints who can never be killed because they are immortal beings coming down from the heavens. This is the Battle of Armageddon which would be World War III)

This plainly states that it happens after Christ returns on His White Horse from outer space and says nothing about the world coming against Israel.

If you put 2 and 2 together you see that ALL the Kings of the earth come against Christ. If someone is against Christ he or it is "Anti-christ", so we see that the Governments of the earth are all anti-christ. Not only are they anti-christ but stupid leaders as well. They actually think they have a chance of defeating Christ with mere earthly armies. That sure doesn't say much for our Kings of the earth.

And anyone can get all of that just from verse 19.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshiped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

BEFORE all that happens we have to deal with the Beast and his mark.

THE MARK OF THE BEAST:

The United Nations Security Council Resolution 666 of Sept. 13, 1990 = "Defined humanitarian aid that could be exempted from import (buying) and export (selling) sanctions.

Revelation 13:17 (King James Version)

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

So the United Nations will tell who can buy or sell what to and from who.

President Obama has already sat in as the President of the United Nation Security Council in violation of his oath of office which is an offense that is referred to as treason.

Where is the impeachment or Justice for that serious crime?

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Thu, Dec 2, 2010, at 3:16 PM

At one time pick pockets were hung in England, while the hanging was going on, other pick pockets were doing guess what? Picking pockets, another words stealing. It didn't work then and it doesn't work now to prevent others from commiting crimes. It you use the words punishment with the death penalty is one thing, but prevention is another.

-- Posted by Sharon22

I think that says more about the inefficiency of government that anything.

If criminals don't think about consequences, why do most join gangs while in prison?

-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Dec 2, 2010, at 3:31 PM

Mike,

I think that the gang aspect speaks to the mind of most criminals, they don't think about the consequences. I might be against the death penalty, but I am all for truth in sentencing. If someone is given a life sentence, then hold true to that, no getting out for good behavior. I am also all for bringing back chain gangs and hard labor and taking away of all luxuries in prison, including NO TV, rec. privledges. A prison sentence should be punishment, not a resort.

-- Posted by Sharon22 on Thu, Dec 2, 2010, at 9:03 PM

Hand them over to the victims and let them decide the punishment.

-- Posted by neena on Sun, Dec 5, 2010, at 5:39 AM

I'd say let a member of the victim's family be allowed to flip the switch and it should not take twenty years worth of appeals to reach that point.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Sun, Dec 12, 2010, at 12:10 PM


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