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Gouging, Greed and Government

Posted Tuesday, December 28, 2010, at 2:53 PM

With gas prices rising rapidly now, to what or whom do you place the blame?

Do you place the blame on supply and demand? Is an unusually cold late fall and early winter a factor?

I think of it as the three Gs.

Gouging. Big oil cares nothing about the plight of the American people during tough economic times.

Greed. The tax cuts passed and big oil wants a big piece of those extra dollars from the people.

Government. Our government bends over backwards to big oil.


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Greed is the big one, I think, and the source of the other two Gs. I find it endlessly amusing -- and disheartening -- that gas prices always rise at peak travel times, such as Thanksgiving and Christmas, and the oil companies sputter feeble excuses and deny that the hikes have anything to do with taking advantage of holiday travelers.

-- Posted by MotherMayhem on Tue, Dec 28, 2010, at 2:58 PM

You forgot the fourth "g".

G.W. Bush.

Isn't it all bush's fault?

-- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Dec 28, 2010, at 4:07 PM

You are right and I believe it will only get worse. A former executive with Shell Oil has predicted that gas will be $5 a gallon by 2012 and that we could experience shortages like those in the 1970's

-- Posted by Rodney Simmons on Tue, Dec 28, 2010, at 4:12 PM

To quitemike- Do a little a research and you will find that when Bush left office in January 09 the average price for a gallon of gas was $1.81. Today after 2 years of the Obama administration the average per gallon is $3.05

-- Posted by Rodney Simmons on Tue, Dec 28, 2010, at 4:21 PM

I hate the oil prices as much as anyone. Several of our services are based on a mobile fleet so when prices spike, it hurts. For some reason we can't seem to pass that along to our customers, but they are not addicted to our services like we are to oil.

That said, I also remember an old farm saying about "making hay while the sun shines". I am sure that BP's pockets could not have been as deep if they had not socked money away. Stuff happens but I think all will agree that was expensive "stuff" from all angles.

Even in our service, we have potential liability so could we always be right on the edge with pricing? Sure, but what happens when the stuff happens? Do you close up business, let go employees or .....?

I almost hate to bring this up, since I don't want to sidetrack the conversation, but it seems to be that some political party wanted to put more taxes on gas in order to slow down consumption. How about more taxes on cigarettes for the people's good. Not sure those things worked either, but it probably helped someone's budget.

Businesses have to be somewhere in the middle of bare bones and what appears to be gouging. Drug companies seem outrageous (believe me, I have first had experience) but it costs money to research and to pay for distribution, ads, manufacturing and paying the lawsuits when something goes wrong.

Do they deserve it? Well..., maybe in some cases, but if it gets out of hand, they will find something much less risky and we all will be out of luck.

Same things goes for oil and energy. Fuss too much and we will be back to chopping wood. Darn, I have to stop here, we need more wood brought in.

-- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Dec 28, 2010, at 4:27 PM

Place the blame on the Sheiks of the Federal Reserve's Open Market Committee (FOMC). If the dollar were still worth 1/35th of an ounce of gold, as it was under the Bretton Woods system until 1968, oil today would cost $2.30 a barrell.

That's right, more than 100% of the more than 30 fold increase in the price of oil since the 1960s can be attributed to the debasement of the dollar by the FOMC.

If the price of oil continues higher, don't blame the rise in the price of gasoline, heating oil, electricity and other energy sources on "greedy" oil companies, the sheiks of Arabia, the Chinese, or the profligate American consumer. Blame the Sheiks -- that is the members -- of the FOMC.

For more, see http://communityofliberty.org/2010/11/22...

-- Posted by Charles Kadlec on Tue, Dec 28, 2010, at 7:27 PM

If you have been paying attention to crude oil future prices, the Jan. 10 price is lower than Dec.; Dec was lower than Nov; Nov. was lower than Oct. What has been driving up prices is the spot market, which is being fueled by speculators, not Big Oil. If they could be kept out of the market, gas would be a lot cheaper.

-- Posted by Tyger on Tue, Dec 28, 2010, at 8:21 PM

Drill...Drill Here....Drill Now.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Tue, Dec 28, 2010, at 9:28 PM

I hate to tell you this but I got a letter from the Soc. Sec. Office telling me that the cost of living hasn't gone up and won't be going up this year.

How can the price of Gas and Oil go up unless the U.S. Government told us more Unique-Lies.

Anyone should be able to realize that when Congress keeps printing money up for corporation pleasures, it is making the Federal Reserve Notes worth much less.

In fact, the Federal Reserve Notes are so low in value that foreign countries want the United States to print different money that would be worth trading for.

The World Bank is working towards that goal. The Treasury Department will have to print hundred dollar bills to replace the one dollar bills, because that will be what a hundred dollars will be worth in the world trade - One U.S. Dollar.

Gas and Oil isn't the only thing that cost more today.

The World Bank and the IMF through President Franklin D. Roosevelt took the Gold and Silver from the people with a presidential proclamation that did not apply to American people under penalty of a $10,000 fine and/or 10 years in prison.

The gold was not returned to the people until the gov. took it, raised the value of it so the Bankers could make a fast fortune, then held in storage.

You can buy gold and silver, but the silver doesn't have silver in it anymore and th gold even though the value goes up, it is not our currency anymore.

Silver or gold as a currency would have increased in value with inflation. A gold dollar coin would buy the same thing it bought for a dollar one hundred years ago. Inflation would have no effect on the value of a gold coin. It would have kept up with the inflated costs.

But today, a Federal Reserve Note won't buy what it would last year.

So, don't blame the Oil Companies. They are just making a fast fortune because of what the World Bank and IMF has done.

This goes very, very, very deep, and most people can not accept what has happened.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Tue, Dec 28, 2010, at 10:06 PM

I also told everyone last summer, that they should invest in Gold and silver and utilities, transportation and etc..

These things are still going to go up. I don't see the cost of things dropping anytime soon. With Congress still spending and passed the tax reduction bill so they could spend again in February only proves they intend to keep spending money they don't have.

Congress is smarter than this, but they have to do what they are told to do by the World Bank and IMF, so the investments are still a good investment if anyone can afford to.

You can bet the Bankers are investing in Oil and Utility companies, Gold, Silver, communications, Global positioning devices, transportation, micro chip manufacturers, and most valuable of all - FOREIGN COMPANIES OR Their MONEY!

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Tue, Dec 28, 2010, at 10:21 PM

notarichboy,

I was trying to point out the irony of how some, including much of the MSM, blamed oil prices on Bush/Cheney a few years ago and refused to hear any other explanation. Now that Bush is gone and is only being blamed by the hardcore kool-aid addicts, other explanations for oil prices are being reported.

I guess sarcasm doesn't translate well to print.

-- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Dec 29, 2010, at 7:50 AM

quietmike,

Or maybe "notarichboy" didn't pick up on your sarcasm because he remembers paying 4 and 5 dollars a gallon for gas when Bush was President.

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Wed, Dec 29, 2010, at 8:38 AM

Has anyone here every owned their own company? They can charge anything they want. How many of you drive something that gets 15 mpg or less? That is your choice. I own my own company. I went into business to make money. If I could charge more for my services I would. Guess I am greedy.

-- Posted by Richardm on Wed, Dec 29, 2010, at 8:50 AM

Rocket Valentine,

Step away from the Kool-aid.

Gas prices were lower when Bush left office than when he took office, once you adjust for inflation.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009...

-- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Dec 29, 2010, at 10:06 AM

Rocket Valentine-

Actually I do remember having to pay $4 a gallon when Bush was in office it was a time that I was driving to Nashville everyday for my job,which is something else I remember having when Bush was in office!

-- Posted by Rodney Simmons on Wed, Dec 29, 2010, at 11:26 AM

So, do you just conveniently forget about when Bush was President and gas prices hit 4 and 5 dollars a gallon?

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Wed, Dec 29, 2010, at 11:35 AM

Please explain exactly how a president sets the price for gasoline.

-- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Dec 29, 2010, at 12:23 PM

I think what quietmike was trying to say was that everyone blamed the high gas prices on Bush when he was President and now they are on the rise again with Bush out of office.

I do find it amusing that you don't see people throwing the fits now, that they used to throw about gas prices when Bush was in office. The media doesn't seem to be commenting on it as much either. I, for one, don't care who the President is, I'm still upset about $3.00 a gallon gas!!

-- Posted by lucky2be on Wed, Dec 29, 2010, at 12:43 PM

Lucky2be makes a valid point. The liberally biased media and those leaning left wanted to absolutely crucify President Bush for $3.00 per gallon gas. Where's the media outrage and public outcry now? Why is the Obama administration getting a free pass on this issue? I find it hard to believe that people have "suddenly" awakened to the fact that the President does not set the price of a gallon of gas.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Wed, Dec 29, 2010, at 1:20 PM

Time to build (and license) a still to make ethanol.

-- Posted by Thom on Wed, Dec 29, 2010, at 1:23 PM

Tim - Didn't you know that nothing bad could possibly be President Obama's fault? He gets the credit for anything good that happens, anything bad was "inherited" by him from the previous administration. I swear, George W. Bush has had a heck of a 10 year term so far.

Rocket Valentine - When were you paying $5 a gallon for gas? The average price for gas has NEVER hit $5 a gallon in this country overall.

-- Posted by Thom on Wed, Dec 29, 2010, at 1:43 PM

Well, for one thing gas prices weren't just $3.00 a gallon under Bush. At one point they jumped to $4.00 and $5.00 a gallon.

And I do think that Republican(Bush/Cheney) policies helped the factor at that time.

Bush was against deregulation of any kind over American business.

While this "free-market" approach may work in some cases, it has proven disasterous when it comes to energy and oil.

Without government regulation oil companies have complete control over prices and output.

Dick Cheney headed the National Energy Policy group at that time and let the oil and energy executives write all their own policies and regulations.

The result was the gouging and highest prices ever for a gallon of gas.

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Wed, Dec 29, 2010, at 1:51 PM

Thom,

The highest price that I ever paid for gas when Bush was president was $4.05, but it did go well over $5.00 a gallon in Calif.

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Wed, Dec 29, 2010, at 1:54 PM

Ok, so what has the current administration done with regards to energy costs? So far our electric rates have gone up, our fuel costs have gone up, and our home heating oil costs have gone up. All of that is without the Cap and Trade bill that they have been trying feverishly to get passed that can only succeed in driving these costs higher. Yep, Obama's much tougher on those big, bad oil companies than Bush was.

Also, to answer your question "So, do you just conveniently forget about when Bush was President and gas prices hit 4 and 5 dollars a gallon?", I would imagine that's a resounding no, since nobody in this area was paying $5 a gallon. This would be an example of the "extremes" that I was referring to on the other blog, by the way.

-- Posted by Thom on Wed, Dec 29, 2010, at 3:09 PM

Ok, so what has the current administration done with regards to energy costs?

-- Posted by Thom

They put a moratorium on offshore drilling further lowering supply (increasing price) while also eliminating jobs.

-- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Dec 29, 2010, at 4:19 PM

During the Carter administration the country of Brazil starting manufacturing sugar based ethanol. Eventually they mandated that all fuel manufactured in Brazil would be this type. Today, the country of Brazil does not import one drop of foreign oil. The price of a gallon of gas...about 29 cents. Big oil in this country lobbied very heavily with their dollars against this practice in our country, but the blame couldn't possibly be lain at the feet of the Carter administration, now could it? By the way, there hasn't been a new refinery built in this country since 1978 or 79. But I suppose that's Bush's fault too.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Thu, Dec 30, 2010, at 12:00 AM

All presidents are escape goats. They can only take the blame for what happens. Why anyone would want to be a President is beyond me.

The President doesn't run our country, I don't care what movies you have watched.

The 7 elite bankers behind the World Bank rules the whole damn world. Every country is bankrupt and so are all the states in the United States. Some may think their not but they are.

Ask yourself, "Why would Congress keep on spending money, knowing it would make the Federal Reserve Note worthless, not only in our country but in the whole world also."

Hell even I know better than that. I wrote a letter to our state representative and told them that a State Lottery would be against the TN State Constitution, but that was the only thing they could do to help because the State was Bankrupt. That could help bail the State out.

They passed it in violation of the State Constitution, then used it for ? Scholarships ? How did that help the State?

On top of that Obama's plan to help put people to work, was to have people go back to school using Federal Money (Which the fools have to pay back with interest), but not producing any jobs at all. That only worsened the situation.

The government is always giving loans to someone, then raping them when it is time to pay the loans back, causing foreclosures and bankruptcies.

Did the President order that? No but he will be blamed for it by the people after he leaves office. President John F. Kennedy was the last REAL President that we had. He DID Something on his own and was Assassinated for doing it. Not only J.F.K., but his brother Bobby and Marilyn Monroe were also assassinated.

President Obama will be credited with ushering in the One World Order. That is all he has been prepared to do for years. By destroying our money, the Elite has not only crippled our economy but us as well, by using the power of the president.

Countries around the world are refusing to take our money because it isn't worth as much as their currency. We must get another currency if we are going to survive this, not a double, but now a triple economy crisis with inflation and everything.

Forget about Bush and Clinton and keep watching Obama as he brings our country down to its knees.

And the beauty of it all is... it's not even President Obama who will be doing it, but who will get the blame for it.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Thu, Dec 30, 2010, at 11:04 AM

Cap and trade has been talked about for years, And ALL people were upset over the gas prices I don't remember anyone blaming Bush, quietmike brought that up sarcastically. He knew it would start a bunch of nitpicking.

Really, Gas prices were lower when Bush left office, Compared to What?

Really, the blame is placed on America, Period. The lazy, coddled Americans. If you don't like it? Do something about it instead of complaining.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Thu, Dec 30, 2010, at 3:37 PM

You must not have watched the news much of you'd have seen almost all the talking heads imply a Bush/Cheney connection to the gas prices. Even Rocket Valentine gave a few of the "reasons" they were responsible.

Yes gas was cheaper when Bush left office, once you adjust the price for inflation.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009...

-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Dec 30, 2010, at 5:49 PM

Is there any logical reasoning in the fact that gasoline prices in Murfreesboro are currently 10-12 cents lower than at any gas station here in Shelbyville? Everytime I go to Murfreesboro, it is always cheaper there and I will continue to fill up when I am there. We constantly hear "buy at home" but where is the incentive to do so in situations such as this? Where does the fault lie with local prices being so much higher than the same product only 30 miles away?

-- Posted by ILoveRoses on Thu, Dec 30, 2010, at 6:17 PM

We lived in Bell Buckle for four years and the entire time we did gas prices were about 10 a gallon cheaper in Murfreesboro than Shelbyville. I can almost understand it as Murfreesboro is directly on the interstate and Shelbyville is not only 22 miles from I-24 at Murfreesboro or 19 miles from it at Beech Grove, there are also several speed variances from I-24 into Shelbyville regardless of which direction you go.

As for why gas is so expensive, isn't it odd that all of the gas stations raise their prices to within a cent or two of each other at the same time? Supposedly they only charge us a few cents per gallon more than they pay for it, but if something devastating happens in the oil industry they raise their prices almost instantly. Did they get an extra charge for the gas that's already in their tanks?

EM - Seriously? You never heard anyone in the mainstream media complaining about the price of gas and then insinuate that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney had an influence on it? Man, you must have had your head buried during the whole time gas prices were high. Oh and yes, gas prices (regardless of inflation) were lower when Bush left office. According to the Department of Energy, the average price (nationwide) for a gallon of regular unleaded was $1.83 on January 19th of 2009, on Monday it was $3.02. That's an increase of $1.19 a gallon. But I agree that the President doesn't have a direct influence on the price of gas, most of the increase is due to speculators in the exchange.

-- Posted by Thom on Thu, Dec 30, 2010, at 6:43 PM

Getting back to Gouging, Greed and Government, Did you know that your Birth Certificate is a Certificate of Manifest?

Everyone is a Human Resource and a Security Stock Exchange on the Stock Market.

At birth you are deemed a slave for the National Debt of the United States for the rest of your life. You give value to your Birth Certificate. Without you, your body and your (unknowingly) volunteered servitude your Birth Certificate would be worthless.

Each man, woman and child is valued at birth with 1 Million Dollars. This 1 million dollars is credited to each person for their free servitude for as long as they live. We are paid for our "Productivity" in advance.

(I believe this is where the money comes from for a persons food stamps, benefits and privileges and not from taxes)

Go to your bank and look around for a sign that explains what backs up the Federal Reserve Notes. It is the Productivity of the people, or OUR Lifelong Servitude/Slavery.

Birth Certificate - a Certificate of Manifest

You are a Human Resource and a Security Exchange Stock on the Stock Market

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtpfdJKyB...

After looking at this youtube video, go check out your value on the Stock Market.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Thu, Dec 30, 2010, at 10:09 PM

Oh I didn't have my head in the sand, but before Bush took office in 2000 wasn't the gas cheaper then when he left? Please, it would be like saying, Someone makes a law to take away our privacy in 2002 then repealing the law when he leaves and saying, Oh Look at the wonderful thing I did, I got rid of the Patriot Act. That didn't happen... either.

http://zfacts.com/p/35.html

According to a non-partisan entity above, gas was it's cheapest in 1999; I don't believe Bush was President then, but look at the incline starting when? I totally 100% believe that the prices of gas is total BS speculation of oil company lobbyists and the United States lets them do it. There is no rhyme or reason why the prices are so high. Record profits from every single oil company.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Thu, Dec 30, 2010, at 10:27 PM

EM - Jan 24th, 2000 (just after Bush took office, it was $1.31, I don't think an increase over eight years of $.52 is too bad. Granted there was one heck of a spike during the second term but, again, that can no more be attributed to Bush than the current price of gasoline can be attributed to Obama. If Cap and Trade had actually passed and the price of gas had spiked, that might be a different story.

-- Posted by Thom on Thu, Dec 30, 2010, at 10:50 PM

Unique Lies - Could you please start posting links to actual evidence that this information that you post on just about every single blog? Youtube videos don't really count as evidence. Are there actual official documents that show us where this alleged one million dollars comes from and is currently located? I don't mean the standard "Sovereign Citizen Movement" stuff just regurgitated on here, real honest to God documents. Thanks.

-- Posted by Thom on Thu, Dec 30, 2010, at 10:56 PM

Thom,

You seem to have totally disassociated yourself with reality, jumping from 2000 to 2008 and not taking anything related in the middle of those years is not reality. 5 out of the 8 years that Bush was in office, Gas was over 2.50 per gallon. You are complaining about 2 mere months of gas being over 2.50 during Obama's administration?

Yet, that doesn't got you upset right? It is the Socialist type behavior right? Like our Fire Dept, Police Dept, Social Security, Veterans Admin, you know.. all those Socialist agencies of the Government..

You know, never in my life have I seen a deep seated hatred for any President in my life. Yet, I haven't heard one solution from anyone. It totally sickens me to see how America has declined. I hope you guys are ready, but it seems there is going to be another Civil War in America and it ain't going to be as nice as the First One.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Dec 31, 2010, at 12:45 AM

EM - Calm down, man. You're going to give yourself a stroke.

If you go back and actually read what I posted, I DO NOT believe that the President (ANY President) has control over the gas prices. I was just stating facts. Facts that were given by the gub'ment regarding historical gas prices. Heck yeah I was mad when gas was $4 a gallon, I drove 55 miles each way to my office. It's not nearly as far now so I'm still coming out cheaper. But I wasn't blaming Bush for it any more (or less) than I'm blaming Obama now.

By the way, I don't know where you're getting your "2 mere months of gas being over 2.50 during Obama's administration", it was at $2.43 on Oct 12th of 2009 and $2.53 on Oct 19th of 2009, hasn't been below $2.50 since. This is 2010, that would make it fourteen months, out of twenty three.

The local constabulary and fire department are necessities of any civilized community. Social Security is not, it's more of a Ponzi scheme. And the VA is there to take care of veterans that have been injured or disabled in some manner while serving and defending our country. I wouldn't exactly call the VA socialist considering the blank check that all veterans have signed for their term. Also, you just mentioned this one to tick me off since you know I'm a vet, but that's fine, I'm not nearly as easily rattled as you think.

As for the comment regarding there being another civil war in America, I hardly believe it will come to that. Consider two things:

1) President Obama's approval ratings are just under 50%. Considering the conservative base is more fired up now, I would imagine they're not going to sit out like they did in 2008 (providing the Republicans put someone up there that's actually a conservative, unlike John McCain).

2) The liberals would be idiots to go into a war when they despise guns. Who's going to fight it for them? Maybe that's why they all want amnesty for illegal aliens, then maybe they'll have someone to fight for them.

I have seen this sort of hatred for a President...that's how Obama got elected. That was Obama's whole campaign pitch (I'm not George Bush and John McCain is). The liberals hated (and still hate) George W. Bush so much that they still rant about him and his administration and he's been out of office for almost two years. Let me ask you, where is all of this "Change" you people were "Hope"ing for?

Lastly, if the "decline" of America sickens you, where's your solution? If you're really sickened by our country there are plenty of alternatives. :)

-- Posted by Thom on Fri, Dec 31, 2010, at 1:20 AM

As we continue to manufacture and sell automobiles that average 40-55MPG (ie, hybrids) the oil industry will continue to make up for the decrease in gallons purchased by increasing per gallon prices. We can expect this trend to only get worse, until you are back to square 1.

Example: my current vehicle averages 25MPG and I spend about $36 each week to fill up with 12 gallons. In 3 years I trade up for a hybrid because the rising cost of gas has forced me to do so. So now my car gets 55MPG, and I now only need to buy about 5 gallons of gas a week, but I'm now paying $7 per gallon...so anyway you look at it I'm still spending about the same $35-36 a week in gas. That's how Big Business works.

-- Posted by shawna.jones on Fri, Dec 31, 2010, at 4:26 AM

I think they are gouging the prices, trying to encourage people to buy those electric and hybrid cars to "save the environment". But if you switch to an electric car, then the electricity has to come from somewhere. And most likely the power source uses oil for power. And it's going to drive your electricity bill up, so you really aren't going to save any money. And for those of us, who live out here in BFE, you would run out of a charge before you could get anywhere.

So I totally agree that prices are due to the government, greed, and gouging.

-- Posted by PrpleHze on Fri, Dec 31, 2010, at 6:07 AM

Thom,

Most of the things I comment about... I do give solid proof of it with Supreme Court Decisions or other legal juris prudences.

As for the $1,000,000 value it can be found in Title 26 of the USC pertaining to the IRS.

Let's go to Title 26 USC & take a look at section 163(h)(3)(B)(ii), $1,000,000 limitation: "The aggregate amount treated as acquisition indebtedness for any period shall not exceed $1,000,000 ($500,000 in the case of a married individual filing a separate return)."

I didn't post it because no one reads these boring proofs and it makes my comments even longer.

The main reason I didn't post any proof is because I gave enough information for anyone to get a legal copy of their Birth Certificate and check out their Manifest number on it with the Stock Market.

I can't do everything for everyone! I would think just giving everyone a heads up on what is coming would spark a little interest in people, but I guess not.

Now that is the proof of something else I have stated as fact:

People will follow the government to the ends of the world even when the bible tells us the governments are anti-christ. People who won't at least think about it, will no doubt have the mark of the beast before they even know the beast is ruling the world. Think about it. We will have a one world Religion also. Guess what that will be!

Also, a lot of the proof I find is on web sites that the Government closes down. The government hides the truth, so it can make anyone who knows anything look like an idiot. At least we know SOME of the Truths.

In our country we not only have two governments but two entirely different sets of laws. We have Common Law (Constitutional Laws) and the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) or Statutory Law. The UCC is a Merchant law pertaining to contracts and does not operate by Common Law.

The Central Government is a Corporation and is foreign in all 50 states. Each State is also a corporation which are not foreign to the Central Government. It is the same harlet with a different dress.

I can provide proof of all this also.

Everyone should make a list of all the things the Government has lied about that they know about. Things like Laws, Events, Disasters, Agencies, UFOs, Taxes, Promises just to get everyone started.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Fri, Dec 31, 2010, at 11:47 AM

Oops!

(1) People will follow the government to the ends of the world even when the bible tells us the governments are Anti-Christ.

PROOF: Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

All Governments (kings of the earth) who go out to do battle with Christ is against Christ, so therefore, is Anti-Christ. If they knew Christ, they would know the Lord (King of Kings) can not be defeated.

(2) The government hides the truth, so it can make anyone who knows anything look like an idiot.

PROOF: Everyone has a right to buy their peace without prejudice, UCC1-207.

(PROOF of that Statement: "It must be permitted of men to buy their peace without prejudice to them." Bouvier's 1914 Law Encyclopedia, under "Compromise.")

Well, guess what? The Justice Department rewrote the UCC. It removed UCC 1-207 from its codes which is the proof. Then because they have to let us buy our peace without prejudice they wrote it in word for word as UCC 1-308. Also UCC 1-103.6 no longer exists that gives us a remedy in court. It is reworded and put in as UCC 1-103(a),(b). It means the same, but doesn't read the same to confuse people. What else they changed... God only knows.

That is very frustrating when you go to a lot of trouble and time looking up statutes and laws just to have the Justice Department hide them so they can win in court.

(3) In our country we not only have two governments,

PROOF: There is in our Political System, [two governments] a government of the several states AND a government of the United States. Each is distinct from the other and has citizens of its own." - U.S. v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542, 23 L. Ed 588

PROOF of this Law: (Since both Governments have their very own distinct citizens... do you see the Difference between the state citizens and the FEDERAL CITIZENS?)

(4) two entirely different sets of laws. Try to use Common Law (the Law of the Land in court). You are tried under the UCC, (Statutory Law or the UCC law of contracts").

Under Common Law you can do anything you like as long as you don't injure someone or do property damage. The court must produce a person who was injured to try you under common law. Under the UCC law they must produce an International Contract that you signed and breached, if you demand proof of jurisdiction. Everything you signed your name to is an International Contract, because of your "STRAWMAN". A Strawman is an artificial entity that has your same name only in all Capital Letters. When you sign something you are agreeing to represent your strawman. That makes you under the courts jurisdiction.

Can you see how the Government has gone to several lengths to enslave you without your knowing it? It is one thing but a combination of many. How can you fight a system who hides the truth and pulls sneaky tactics like that?

A Simple Proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME7K6P7hl...

All though this was a simple explanation, anyone can follow it up by searching "strawman".

(5) The UCC is a Merchant law pertaining to contracts and does not operate by Common Law.

PROOF: Above video explains it, but UCC 1-103(a),(b) is our way out of the merchant law UCC. The UCC is created in harmony with the law (meaning Common Law), so the court must recognize common law if you are a belligerent claimant in person and not being "Represented by a Lawyer" (Officer of the Court). He/She can only represent your interest not your rights.

(6) The Central Government is a Corporation and is foreign in all 50 states.

PROOF: Volume 20: Corpus Juris Sec. 1785: "The United States Government is a Foreign Corporation with respect to a state" NY re: Merriam 36 N.E. 505 1441 S.Ct.1973, 41 L.Ed.287

In order for Congress to legislate for the Federal Citizens, it had to make Corporations out of each of the states , counties, cities, towns, etc.. Then not only Congress, but state legislators could pass unconstitutional laws for these Federal Citizens.

These unconstitutional laws and codes apply to the Sovereign people also now, because of our signing International Contracts giving them jurisdiction over our Strawman without us knowing anything about it.

I do not hate the Government! I hate what they are doing to us without our knowing it. That is what I am trying to reveal. I want everyone to know what our friends, relatives and neighbors have done to us as Government Employees.

We need to smarten up and learn how to stand up for our rights against the Fraudulent government employees.

Thom, You have stated on these blogs that you won't give up your right to own your gun. Is that You talking or your Strawman?

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Fri, Dec 31, 2010, at 2:39 PM

LOL...imagine a world of one like mind. Anyway way you spin it, the gas price gouging sucks, and is not likely to get better. I vaguely remember paying $0.99 a gallon when we drove a U-haul truck from California to Tennessee 11 years ago...imagine what it would cost to make that trip in this day and age...

-- Posted by shawna.jones on Fri, Dec 31, 2010, at 3:00 PM

Gouging, Greed, Government and Gas!

I just read the Duck River Electric Coop magazine about TVA and their new Rate Hike coming in April.

It seems the TVA has a different view about our seasons. I always thought we had 4 seasons consisting of 3 months each. The TVA describes Summer as being 4 months - June, July, August and Sept, Fall has 2 months Oct. and Nov. and Winter has 4 months Dec., Jan., Feb. and March then Spring has 2 months April and May.

The TVA has 3 Seasons - Winter, Summer and Transition. Their Rate Hike will only be during the Winter months and Summer months. That is 8 months by their Seasons with only 4 months out of 12 as having lower rates.

Looks like the TVA has taken some lessons from our Government, but then again, the TVA was created by President Franklin D. Roosevelt!

TVA has always had higher rates in the winter and summer months (or at least Duck River did), so that tells me our Electric bills will be even higher now with this advance notice of a rate hike.

Now would be a very good time to get that Utility Facilities STOCK if you want to recoup some of your coming Electrical Bill expenses.

Here is a prediction for everyone!

President Barack (Hussein) Obama will be re-elected in the next election. I will even go further to predict that I believe he may be our last president.

The latest rumor has it that President Barack (Hussein) Obama is pushing to pass the United Nation's Blasphemy Law.

This law would mean a death penalty for anyone who speaks out against the Islamic Religion or the Quran. Since this is a United Nations Law, it would apply to everyone in the world including us.

If this rumor is true we know what the One World Religion will be. It has to be one that our Christian God hates, so that sounds likely to me.

Any religion of the One World Order enforced by the One World Army would more than likely be the One World Religion.

If we don't bow down to its image and worship this religion or we dare to speak out against it - it would be a death penalty.

Sounds like - Rev 20:4 ...and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands;...

That alone is an act of TREASON against the United States (if it is true).

This is what Barack (Hussein) Obama was officially trained for - bringing in the One World Order. You have to watch him and watch what he does to make your decision about him.

As always, I say, Don't believe me, but watch and listen and find out for yourself with your own eyes and ears.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Sat, Jan 1, 2011, at 12:23 PM

shawna.jones,

Do you remember how costly it seemed to be to have to pay that $0.99 a gallon 11 years ago as compared to $2.85 today for a gallon? We are paying 3 times as much today for that same one gallon that is watered down.

That is how much Congress has decreased the value of the Federal Reserve Note in just 11 years.

Things are really looking up for those who only see the glass half full or half empty.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Sat, Jan 1, 2011, at 12:34 PM

It is in the best intrest of the Oil companies to make sure that the price of gas be where it will need to be to have the party they want in office to win. For that reason notice how they will gouge the price up and up until the election, and watch how the republicans will blame it on Obama, this is just politics. It is in the best intrest of oil to get and keep their friends (republicans) in office, the ones who favor the greed and profits over the well being of the people.The party that bow to their wishes.We know that the republicans are known for being in the pockets of the like of oil companies. The prices will be manipulated the same as immigration, health care,abortion and other politically hot topics that divide the parties and insure votes for the parties. These issues will NEVER be settled as long as they can be used to manipulate the elections. Both(all) parties are guilty of this behavior. If the prices of fuel stay reasonable that will be seen favorably for Obama and that is completely unacceptable in a time when the top priority is to insure at any cost his failure.

-- Posted by wonderwhy on Sat, Jan 1, 2011, at 3:18 PM

why hasnt anyone resonded with the fact that retail gas stations are gouging you too? wal-mart/murphy oil changes there prices 3 and 4 times a day. in the mornings and afternoons they go up on thier prices but during the middle of the day they drop their price.

-- Posted by kyhhfan1 on Sun, Jan 2, 2011, at 1:42 AM

Didn't we pump and store oil so we could keep our gas prices down by adding some of our barrels of oil?

What gives? It sure isn't any U.S. oil!

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Mon, Jan 3, 2011, at 6:30 PM

Doesn't the government stand to take in more tax revenue if the price of gas is higher? I'm not sure, but if it is like the inflation we are seeing, then the taxes increase as a percentage of the selling price.

For example; An item that costs $1.00 two years ago now costs $2.00. Sales tax is 10% So the amount of tax we pay has doubled without passing any tax increase laws whatsoever. it doesn't matter of the tax dollars go to the state or the Feds. They are all working in tandem to fill their collective coffers.

Law should equal justice, instead the law is being used to justify plundering the citizens. Big oil, big pharmecy, big government, there is nothing new under the sun.

-- Posted by Liveforlight on Wed, Jan 5, 2011, at 4:06 PM

Gas taxes are actually assessed per gallon, not on the entire price. Tennessee's sales tax on gasoline is 21.4 cents per gallon in addition to the federal government's 18.6 cents per gallon. Although the profits for these corporations are taxed, as well as the dividends that are paid out to their shareholders. So yes, the government stands to make tons of money off of the higher gas prices, but not directly from the pump.

-- Posted by Thom on Wed, Jan 5, 2011, at 6:43 PM

China and India are expanding economies and will be bidding up the price of gasoline. As the world economy recovers oil will go up.

-- Posted by Grit on Wed, Jan 5, 2011, at 9:44 PM

You can say whatever you want to ~ George Bush was

a good president. He didn't do everything right, but we did have jobs and the cost of living wasn't as bad as it is today. EVERYTHING keeps going up and your paycheck stays the same. It is hard to make ends meet now and it is going to get worse. Obama is set on bringing America down. He is not for America! George Bush is a true American in every way. Obama is too busy with only knows what to visit the tomb of the unknown soldier and other things he SHOULD be doing as president. Where was he when Nashville was flooded?! George Bush would have been in Nashville!! Gas prices, like everything else, is going up. Gas prices take bigger jumps because they can. It is not fair to us!!!

-- Posted by nomountainman on Thu, Jan 6, 2011, at 4:14 PM

nomountainman - I do have to correct one thing that you stated. "EVERYTHING keeps going up and your paycheck stays the same" - IF you still have one.

-- Posted by Thom on Thu, Jan 6, 2011, at 7:15 PM

This comment from another source is worth repeating.................... Wow one day in and look where we are headed .... sit down and hang on we are in for one heck of a ride ( sad) the true colors did not take long to glare at us..........

Yes, they got elected on the debt they created. And the first thing they did was add 800 billion giving the rich their promised tax cuts, another 200 billion for the estate tax cut. Next they promised no cramming bills down our throats, open debates. So after the dems had debated the health care law for over a year and had town hall meetings, the GOP is going to repeal it without any debate or public input.A law that the CBO says saves the country a trillion dollars over 10 years, they will repeal at a cost to the tax payers of 124 billion. Right as I write this post the Republicans are reading the constitution on the house floor, yet one of their first acts was taking the representation that DC, Guam, and other common wealth's away. The very basic thing this country is based on is taxation with representation, now these common wealth's will have none, even as they pay taxes.

-- Posted by wonderwhy on Thu, Jan 6, 2011, at 9:34 PM

Perhaps the incoming Republicans listened to the majority of Americans who DIDN'T want obamacare passed in the first place(one of the main reasons they ere elected).

The Republicans were also elected to cut taxes and spending, so leaving tax cuts in place for people who already pay the majority of the tax burden is a good start.

-- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Jan 7, 2011, at 6:59 AM

FROM THE NATIONAL FREEDOM FORUM;

The fact is that the United States accumulated an additional $3.22 Trillion in debt during the 111th Congress, the most ever in one year. That is $10,430 for each and every one of the 308,745,538 people counted in the 2010 Census. The total national debt is now roughly $13.9 Trillion, or $44,887 for every man, woman and child living in the United States.

The last time the Republicans controlled Congress was the 109th Congress, which adjourned on December 8, 2006 when the deficit was $1.054 Trillion. This was not wonderful; but certainly much less than what has occurred during the Obama/Reid/Pelosi years. Clearly, President Obama and the Socialist controlled Congress have far exceeded any other President and Congress in American history in deficit spending and adding to the national debt.

A FEW APPROPRIATE QUOTES FROM FREDERIC BASTIAT IN 1850 "THE LAW".

People are beginning to realize that the apparatus of government is costly. But what they do not know is that the burden falls inevitably on them.

In a country where no law may be voted and no tax may be levied save with the consent of those whom the law is to govern and upon whom the tax is to fall, the public can be robbed only if it is first deceived. Our ignorance is the raw material of every extortion that is practiced upon us, and we may be certain beforehand that every sophism is the precursor of an act of plunder.

My friends, when you detect a sophism in a petition, get a good grip on your wallet, for you may be sure that this is what the petitioners are aiming at.

we must wait until we have learned by experience--perhaps cruel experience--to trust in the state a little less and in mankind a little more.

Hence, I should like each man to have, on his own responsibility,the free disposition, administration, and control of his own person, his acts, his family, his transactions, his associations, his intelligence, his faculties, his labor, his capital, and his property.

Advise me, but do not force your opinion on me. I shall decide at my peril and risk; that is enough, and for the law to interfere would be tyranny.

Every attempt to divert responsibility from its natural course is an attack upon justice, freedom, order, civilization, or progress.

Bastiat really does lay it out in plain terms in "The Law". He identified the U.S. as being the most nearly correct from of government at the time (1850). It was greed and government that allowed the unjust continuation of slavery at that time and we have continued down that road. How far we have come from that nearly correct form of government since 1850, in the wrong direction!!

-- Posted by Liveforlight on Fri, Jan 7, 2011, at 9:18 AM

I love the way they start by covering their butts, oh yes pay for everything BUT their tax breaks, humm at least they showed their colors up front. They did not do a single thing to help the everyday Americans it was all to their protection and greed. Just watch as they change every thing possible to block those who do not give them what they want. They have no desire for the well being of the citizens, the budget or anything other than what will feed their greed. They were all about reading the COnstitution, but as it turns out it was their version, a cut up one that was read. Where do they get off thinking they have the right to censor it? In my opinion they have an evil agenda when it comes to the common man, I see nothing POSITIVE as of yet that has been proposed for the real people of this country the ones that do the work, that make it run. If the so called trickle down of wealth they say will crate jobs worked we would not be where we are, the only trickle down we get is yellow and drippy. If they were honorable they could change the tax breaks for the wealth to back their trickle down claims - extend to only those above a certain level who truely create jobs, give them a good deduction for all the job created related money they spent, and let them pay on the rest like we all have to. There would be very few getting that break if the job markets of today are an indication of how much actual money is trickling down to job creation.

-- Posted by wonderwhy on Fri, Jan 7, 2011, at 9:58 AM

"I see nothing POSITIVE as of yet that has been proposed for the real people of this country" - wonderwhy

REALLY? In the one and a half days since the 112th Congress convened you haven't seen anything positive? Heck, obama gets two years before he gets blamed for anything.

Also, how do you figure they should have to "pay" for tax breaks? That's like saying you can spend money you don't have yet. Oh yeah, I forgot...that's how most Americans run their own finances so it just seems right that the government should do the same

-- Posted by Thom on Fri, Jan 7, 2011, at 10:22 AM

They have no desire for the well being of the citizens, the budget or anything other than what will feed their greed. -Posted by wonderwhy

So people who want to keep the money they worked for and earned are greedy, but stealing money from others to give to others who can't be bothered to work is a noble cause????

Liberal logic I guess.

"The care of every man's soul belongs to himself. But what if he neglect the care of it? Well what if he neglect the care of his health or estate, which more nearly relate to the state. Will the magistrate make a law that he shall not be poor or sick? Laws provide against injury from others; but not from ourselves. God himself will not save men against their wills."- Thomas Jefferson

-- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Jan 7, 2011, at 10:52 AM

Pay for everything BUT a tax break??? As if our money belongs to the government and they must pay for us to keep what already belongs to us. They need to be better stewards of what they already have and stop looking to increase their plunder.

Helping the everyday American, such as myself, means to stop plundering my liberties with licenses and fees, my faculties and property with taxes and legislation and reduce the size of the tyranny that has appointed itself my caretaker at the expense of my freedom.

-- Posted by Liveforlight on Fri, Jan 7, 2011, at 12:00 PM

What about those new Republicans?

They were being taught what the Constitution means.

I personally think all Congressmen/women should have to past a test about the Constitution before they can be in Congress.

I also heard they just got up and walked out before being sworn in.

Don't they know other people could be elected now to replace their positions?

Just PROOF our congress is Stupid and getting stupider by the election.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Fri, Jan 7, 2011, at 5:48 PM

ISRAEL: Every Republican voted to hide their own government health care, while many of them are pledging to repeal health care for everyone else. So, you go from hypocrisy to hypocrisy; from broken promise to broken promise. And this is just the first day of the new Congress.

MATTHEWS: You mean, they didn't want to admit that they're taking health care?

ISRAEL: This is a very straightforward amendment that we offered, that, if you're going to take government-sponsored health care and the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, simply disclose. Let your constituents know that you are taking that government health care. Every single Republican voted to hide their health care while many of them are pledging to repeal it for their constituents.

-- Posted by wonderwhy on Sun, Jan 9, 2011, at 1:19 PM

$100 Billion Spending Cuts Now "Hypothetical": Confidently touting their "Pledge to America," Boehner and his Young Gun squadron reiterated the promise that they'd "save $100 billion dollars in the first year." Just yesterday, Cantor told reporters that Republicans will soon "spell out" the cuts to obtain that number. But, according to Republican aides, that promise is more "hypothetical" than literal and the actual number "is about HALF the original estimate." When asked by how much, Ryan said "I can't tell you by what amount." When Fox News pressed Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) about GOP waffling, Pence said anyone who focuses on the $100 billion figure is just "number crunching" and trying to "parse words."

-- Posted by wonderwhy on Sun, Jan 9, 2011, at 1:29 PM

The GOP is even undermining its own distorted understanding of the Constitution. Despite promising to include clauses citing the constitutional authority of each bill, not one of the three bills the GOP plans to introduce this week -- health care repeal, congressional budget cuts, and instruction for new health care legislation -- currently include the constitutional citation. Whether the citations will be available when the bills hit the floor remains to be seen.

The previous post were copied and passed on from:

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/01/06/hous... There is a whole story there to enlighten those who have their blinders on.

It's nice to see them showing what they're true colors are, I must say I expected them to honor their word at least for the first couple of days - wow are we in for a ride the next two years if the first week of back lies are example of things to come.

-- Posted by wonderwhy on Sun, Jan 9, 2011, at 1:36 PM

Yeah, because that's what's causing gas prices to go up.

It's none of our business where the government employees get their health benefits. I would expect that most of them have employer provided health benefits just as most of us that work for reasonably sized companies do.

Basically, this is a petty complaint that because the republicans want to repeal Obamacare, they should have to tell everyone whether or not their current employer provides their health care. More political jockeying by the democrats. Let's submit an amendment to this bill just to make them look bad.

Actually, now that I've looked at it, I can't find a roll-call for this alleged amendment that you're referring to. Could you please provide a link to this vote? According to thomas.loc.gov there has only been one amendment proposed in the three days that the current Congress has been in session, and that one was regarding the election of House officers. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/d?...

-- Posted by Thom on Sun, Jan 9, 2011, at 2:14 PM


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