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Do You Believe in Ghosts?

Posted Monday, October 17, 2011, at 3:15 PM

I've seen too much in my life to really believe in ghosts and gobblins, but I'm sure others feel otherwise on this subject.

I have seen strange happenings that I couldn't explain.

What have you seen?


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to Prplehze === your comment== "But there are many spirits who linger today after traumatic experiences and do not realize that they are either dead or will not accept the fact that they are. No one really understands how a person becomes a ghost"

=====In Genesis we're told that man BECAME a living soul // so man is a soul . it does not say he was given one... Then =GOD breathed the breath of life into man = life being his spirit ,his life =====NOW

, the condition of the dead is spelled out clearly in God's Word

Ezekial 18: 4 says The soul that is sinning--it itself will die.

(Ecclesiastes 9:5)tells us that the dead, are conscious of nothing at all..............So.. how is it possible for spirits to linger today after traumatic experiences and do not realize that they are either dead or will not accept the fact that they are dead ? Dead is opposite of life ....the Bible says the dead know nothing so how can they be roaming around the earth ? Satan on the other hand has been misleading people for eons ..... and he and his demons can and will pose as deceased family and/or friends.... He knows what went on in their life , he can tell the future... and it isn't beyond him to deceive any who will believe his antics . Dead people do not become ghosts .

-- Posted by Zak on Fri, Nov 4, 2011, at 11:57 PM

I understand what you mean about corruption in the churches . There sure is a lot of it going on. and you're right , a lot of things we just have to let pass . But I do really enjoy discussing Bible topics --- not arguing them for no one gets anywhere that way . just a nice relaxed discussion about things is important tho , don't you think ?? What do you mean BY "being out of the mess" if you don't mind me asking ??

-- Posted by Zak on Fri, Nov 4, 2011, at 11:34 PM

whew, glad you are not him.. he was a ......jerk.

nope i could care less really what folks think, most of the time i ignore ignorant babel but sometimes it just gets to me. I saw so much corruption go on in the church from ignorant fear based talk.. it gets my hackles up. I am glad i am out of the mess.

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Fri, Nov 4, 2011, at 7:43 PM

lol I find that amusing ,so I'm obnoxious eh ?=== but then it's not so amusing in other aspects..... where did the" comdemning " idea come from ?. Is it comdemning just because other's views are not your views ? No I'm not Michael = I'm not even a man, so be nice now :-)

I'm just asking questions .... me smells a rat in the wood pile lol thanks tho

-- Posted by Zak on Fri, Nov 4, 2011, at 7:34 PM

zak you remind me of another obnoxious blogger that got kicked off cause of his horrid condemning veiws. His name was micheal.. hope you are not related .. he got so tiresome.

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Fri, Nov 4, 2011, at 2:04 PM

To Unique -Lies

Yes those are accounts of GOD sending angels to help certain individuals. but it doesn't show that "EACH" individual of those days had a guardian angels .These are isolated cases .

apparently angels are looking out for the spiritual welfare of true Christians as a whole.

This is confirmed in question form at Hebrews 1:14: "Are they not all spirits for public service, sent forth to minister for those who are going to inherit salvation?" What marvelous aid is available to us through the angels!

But , If everyone has a "guardian angel", why are some people rescued, whereas many are not? Countless millions have died from disease, wars, famines, and natural disasters. Surely, many earnestly prayed for help. Why didn't a guardian angel save them?

-- Posted by Zak on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 6:34 AM

Many so-called psychics and mediums are frauds. Many "read" by guessing. If they say "I see your loved one. Their name starts with the letter..." This is the first hint that they are not a psychic/medium because they will provide you with answers with the answers that you tell them. The meetings with a huge group of people and a psychic is another sign that it is not real. Because while you are waiting, you will most likely talk about what you are there to hear. And you will most likely hear what you said from the psychic.

However, if they tell you exactly the person's name, what they look like, etc without any input from you - then they are legit. But you will not meet too many legit psychic and mediums on TV shows or at carnivals. Many stay private because they do not believe that their gifts are a game or joke. Many police departments work with real psychics and mediums on some cases to get help in solving them. There are different types of psychics and mediums. Some the spirits will come to them. Others have the ability to touch something or be in a certain place and tell you what happened.

I do know that demons are very real and can possess people. I have been on both sides of the "spiritual or magikal wall." People do become possessed and do not know it sometimes as well. Just as homes and items can become possessed. It has been my experience that once someone has opened the door to any spirituality, you have opened the door to possession - no matter what religion you practice.

In turn, in order to balance the ying yang, in order to have bad - you must have good. So in order for demonic forces to exist, angelic forces must exist as well. That does not exactly mean people with wings walking around. But spirits that are here on Earth to help others. Some people call them guardian angels others may just call them spirits, ghost, or lost souls.

But there are many spirits who linger today after traumatic experiences and do not realize that they are either dead or will not accept the fact that they are. No one really understands how a person becomes a ghost. I studied parapsychology for many years and I never found a pattern. There is plenty of evidence and explanations of why the residual hauntings exist, because they are just recordings of the past that continue to play over and over again such as watching a DVD. Because whatever we do, we leave energy behind. And during major events such as a war, battle, or a violent crime, that energy imprints itself. Again, no one can truly figure out how. But we know that it does. But intelligent hauntings are something different because they can think and answer questions. For an example: If person A and person B both died in a violent murder, the exact same way. We later find video/audio evidence that person B is a spirit and is talking about what happened to them. But cannot find anything about person A. Why? That is what many ghost investigators and parapsychologists try to figure out.

-- Posted by PrpleHze on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 6:27 AM

PrpleHze,

I don't take anything you say as being mean.

The bible speaks of the spirits of God being angels and the spirits of Satan being demons. These are your spiritual world characters.

You have to open your mind to become involved in ths twilight zone of good and bad.

I have watched a lot of Medium and psychic shows on TV to understand what is going on.

Thomas Edwards for example explained how he had to read and indulge into satonic material to be able to communicate with the dead.

If he became demonic through his reading and practices, why would anyone want to think he could communicate with angel spirits or your loved ones?

He can only communicate with the spirits that come forth or demon spirits. This is pretty much the same with Mediums and Witches/Warlocks.

Not all people who see or hear spirits are evil, demonic or even bad. Some like children are just open to believing in it.

That is what Mediums and Psychics do. They make you want to believe these demonic spirits are your loved ones and they are watching over you. This will encourage you to believe in it and talk to your loved ones instead of God.

That makes God angry because He is a Jealous God.

They tell you that these are spirits (your loved ones) from God. After all, don't the preachers and ministers tell you that your loved ones have gone to heaven to be with their Father?

Demonic spirits are evil and can pocess anything. Did you know that a demonic spirit could be a sore throat or a cancer of any kind? A demon spirit could live as breat cancer or lung cancer or even throat cancer without you knowing that is what it is. That is how Christ healed to sick, diseased an insane. Jesus cast the demons out and the illness was gone.

Now follow me, if someone can open their mind to the Spirit world, why can't they open their mind to God's word and cast out demons and evil spirits when a loved one becomes over powered by a demon spirit removing their illness, insanity, cancer or tumors?

The Word of God says anyone who believes can do anything if he or she has the faith the size of a mustard seed.

Christ told Peter to Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus.

When they built the Tower of Babel God had to confound their language so they would not be able to do anything as one mind.

Genesis 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

Paranormal is a scientific word for not being able to explain the unexplained.

The word of God speaks of demons roaming the earth looking for a person to enter. So yes, there are evil spirits roaming the earth. There may even be some angels here and there helping someone.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 1:47 PM

Zak -- where in the Bible does it say we have a guardian angel ?

Where do I begin?

(Gen 16:7-11) Angel came and told Hagar to return to Abraham because she was pregnant.

(Gen 19:1-15) Two angels guarded Lot and his two daughters from God's wath on Sodom and Gomorrah.

(Gen 21:17) The angel of God called from heaven and asked Hagar what was the matter? The angel guarded Hagar and her new born son from starvation and thirst.

(Gen 22:11-15)The angel of God called out twice to Abraham.

Abraham sent his sevant to get a wife for Jacob and told him an angel would go before him and help him.

(Gen 24:7) 'To your offspring I will give this land'--he will send his angel before you so that you can get a wife for my son from there.

Repeated in (Gen 24:40)

(Gen 48:16) the Angel who has delivered me from all harm --may he bless these boys.

(Exodus 14:19) Then the angel of God, who had been traveling in front of Israel's army, withdrew and went behind them. The pillar of cloud also moved from in front and stood behind them,

(Exodus 23:20) "See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared.

(Exodus 23:23) My angel will go ahead of you and bring you into the land of the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Canaanites, Hivites and Jebusites, and I will wipe them out.

(Numbers 20:16) but when we cried out to the LORD, he heard our cry and sent an angel and brought us out of Egypt.

(1 Kings 19:5) Then he lay down under the bush and fell asleep. All at once an angel touched him and said, "Get up and eat."

(1 Kings 19:7) The angel of the LORD came back a second time and touched him and said, "Get up and eat, for the journey is too much for you."

(Psalm 91:11) For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways;

New Testament

(Luke 4:10) For it is written: " 'He will command his angels concerning you to guard you carefully;

(Acts 8:26) [ Philip and the Ethiopian ] Now an angel of the Lord said to Philip, "Go south to the road--the desert road--that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza."

(Acts 12:7) Suddenly an angel of the Lord appeared and a light shone in the cell. He struck Peter on the side and woke him up. "Quick, get up!" he said, and the chains fell off Peter's wrists.

(Hebrews 1:14) Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

(Hebrews 13:2) Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.

That should be enough for now!

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 12:42 PM

Zak, the point that I am making, is simply sometimes you have to experience life as it is. Instead of reading it in a book or believing something that someone has told you - experience it first hand.

As for the question "if everyone follow the christian path things would be a lot better than they are now?" I don't believe so. There are so many different denominations of christians and you all believe different part of the religion. Some ignore the contradictions that are in the book - some ignore the violence - and just focus whatever positive things are in the book.

As for children following our rules - my children have always followed my rules. The only laws that I follow are the government laws. As for moral rules, those do not have to be taught from a book because they are common sense - Be respectful of one another, help one another, always think before you speak,etc.

That is all I am going to say about religions. Because I do not plan to argue on the point of religion when this thread is suppose to be about spirits and ghost and/or demonic presence.

-- Posted by PrpleHze on Sat, Oct 29, 2011, at 6:55 AM

" sometimes, you have to set the book down and experience life for yourself - stop and take in your environment with an open mind.-- Posted by PrpleHze on Wed, Oct 26, 2011, at 12:20 AM

STOP ? and PUT DOWN the word of GOD? Our user manual ?== could or would it be wise to put down the instruction manual of a very complicated, very delicate "machine" you were constructing to get it to operate correctly ? Who other than GOD= who created us=can know how properly, we should operate ? wouldn't we ,rather , be better off to keep that instruction manual close at hand? referring to it often ? =

Would you not agree that if humans were to go by the book, instead of setting it aside , which BTW , some have already done ,things would be a lot better than they are now ?

the Bible is not a club with which to browbeat anyone. When handled properly, what can the truth of God's Word accomplish? (2 Cor. 10:4, 5) Scriptural truth can overturn "strongly entrenched things," that is, expose false doctrines, harmful practices, and philosophies that reflect imperfect human wisdom. We can use the Bible to cut away any ideas that are "raised up against the knowledge of God." The teachings of the Bible can be used to help others bring their thinking in line with the truth. we have the choice of whether to follow God's manual or not .....but we shouldn't expect to not follow it and still gain his favor , should we ? We are to God,== as our children are to us. Don't "we" expect our children to follow our rules ?

So please , let's not set it aside .

-- Posted by Zak on Fri, Oct 28, 2011, at 6:39 PM

Bo, you are very kind. I think I will just stick to my two-cents worth. However, I am going to make a poster out of your comments and hang it in a prominent place in my house! Thank you!

-- Posted by caligal on Thu, Oct 27, 2011, at 10:34 PM

I wish we had a "like" button, so I could like caligal's post, ha ha!

-- Posted by craftin_mom on Thu, Oct 27, 2011, at 4:30 PM

Caligal,

I wish you could write a blog for the T-G. I find your comments intelligent and thoughtful. Thank you.

-- Posted by bomelson on Thu, Oct 27, 2011, at 3:16 PM

I just wish all the founding fathers of our country would show up as ghosts at the White House and scare some sense into our current resident.

-- Posted by caligal on Wed, Oct 26, 2011, at 2:09 PM

We know nothing and do nothing, therefore the dead do not get up and walk around haunting people or houses.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies

I would have to disagree with you on this. There are plenty of intelligent hauntings where the spirit can have a full conversation with you. They are not demonic, but a real person. They can answer questions that you ask as well as tell you what they see. So there are plenty of spirits around that you can do this experiment with. All you need is a recording device and a PC or something to use to playback the recording for evidence.

I was involved in "ghost hunting" most of my life and can tell you that there is plenty of evidence that you can get yourself to prove that there is a ghost realm or plane.

I tend to believe what I can experience first hand. If I can't see it, touch it, feel it, etc; then I most likely will not believe it.

There are plenty of factors that can explain plenty of the strange sounds and actions "of the night". But once the explanations are done, what you have left will be paranormal, meaning that there is not a scientific answer to the situation. That is when it is paranormal and something that is not exactly on this plane.

I do not mean this in a mean or harsh way but, I understand that you tend to go through life, devoted to your religious beliefs. But sometimes, you have to set the book down and experience life for yourself - stop and take in your environment with an open mind.

-- Posted by PrpleHze on Wed, Oct 26, 2011, at 12:20 AM

I fully agree with you Unique-Lies--the Bible does say once a person is dead he is not aware of any happenings on earth any more ---so ghosts can not be former people who lived on earth. when we're dead we're dead === death is the opposite of life .so the "ghosts" have to be demonic forces and they are not our friends !!

My question is , where in the Bible does it say we have a guardian angel ?

-- Posted by Zak on Tue, Oct 25, 2011, at 10:32 PM

Ghosts and Gobblings, No!

Angels and demons Yes. Never say any but felt errie in an old 2 story house late at night when I was only one up.

The scriptures say we sleep when we die, We know nothing and do nothing, therefore the dead do not get up and walk around haunting people or houses.

People and Items can be possessed by demons. It has to be demons lurking in the dark or guardian Angels.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Sat, Oct 22, 2011, at 9:54 PM

absolutely... i used to clean houses here in Bedford county and surrounding areas. I had one house here in town i cleaned that had two i would see around October. A little girl would appear on the stairs and a "dark man" would stand outside.

The little girl had no bad vibes... the dark man did. He even choked my client one night she said.

He was a evil entity.

I would come into the house and tell them that I was there and i was not going to put up with any crap.. to not bother me.

I have been in other houses where i have seen tracers and ghost animals..

Yep I have seen and felt things.... I have often wondered if the new owners of the first house have seen the little girl or the Dark Man?

I found out later that someone had killed themselves in the back area of the house.. (I always felt weird cleaning back there) and I never found out about the little girl.

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Wed, Oct 19, 2011, at 7:21 PM

An interesting book is "Soul Survivor" by Bruce and Andrea Leininger. It is about their young son who has flashbacks about his life as a WWII soldier. Very compelling book about the "unexplained."

-- Posted by caligal on Wed, Oct 19, 2011, at 1:12 PM

I believe anything is possible.

-- Posted by AmericanWoman on Tue, Oct 18, 2011, at 7:14 PM

No. Not in the sense that they are lost souls or spirits.

I believe they are energy wave pulses that are manifested through time and space. The emotional state of the person that created them lingers over time and that is what people experience.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Tue, Oct 18, 2011, at 6:55 PM

Yes.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Tue, Oct 18, 2011, at 8:17 AM

I am one that does believe in ghost and demonic forces. I have seen plenty of them in my life, some I wish I could forget. Spirits are normally regular people who do not wish to do any harm. I have lived with some throughout my life. And one of them actually saved our lives one night when our microwave shorted out without us knowing and he woke me up by shaking me.

Spirits do not run around with white covers or drag chains, or anything else that they are stereotyped. Though there are many different types of spirits from shadow people to regular spirits, remember they are just normal people. There are some who do wish harm, and those are people who most likely were not nice people when they were alive.

I have experienced residual and intelligent hauntings since I was a child, starting with a couple of kids who would walk from my bedroom door and down the hallway to the kitchen and then disappear. They would do this every night.

I have had plenty interactions with the other side to know that they are real and do exist.

-- Posted by PrpleHze on Mon, Oct 17, 2011, at 10:01 PM

Bo,

Although some folks give lip service to the idea of "friendly ghosts", I think by and large the vast majority of people that hold an opinion one way or the other tend to categorize ghosts alongside an evil witch, stirring a boiling cauldron of some dastardly brew. I think they probably do this more for the thrill of frightening others than a true belief in the existence of ghosts. But I could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time.

You say you have seen strange happenings that you can't explain. Do you mean that you, personally, can't explain them, or do you believe them to be unexplainable by anyone? If the latter is the case, do you suppose the possibility of an unseen deity like being exists, or do you, like I suspect many others do, simply dismiss anything that can't be seen, tasted, smelled or touched.

What have you seen? Well, in my case, I've never seen anything, no ghostly apparitions, have not heard any rattling chains or any blood curdling screams on a railroad track at midnight. But what I can speak to on a personal level are premonitions and dreams, or more accurately, nightmares, all of which played out exactly as discerned before hand, with the exception of one, which would have ended my life at 30 years of age, if the last two seconds of that script had not been rewritten. Those two seconds have been lost to me, with no remembrance of them at all. But I came out of the experience in a far more humble state of mind and with a greater appreciation for each day of life that I have been granted. I learned to not attempt to play mind games with the creator of all minds.

To each his own, I didn't intend to preach when I started this post, but based on my own experiences through the first 74 years of my life, I would feel extremely nervous if I were to disavow the presence of unseen protective forces among us.

-- Posted by ilikeoldsongs on Mon, Oct 17, 2011, at 9:00 PM


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