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Posted Tuesday, February 12, 2008, at 11:40 AM

There's no pleasing some people, it seems.

For example.

Then there's the organized effort to shame me.

It never ceases to amaze me how those who may disagree with my opinions or reporting automatically label me a bigot. Not only do I continue to have to endure this type of vicious name calling, but so does our poor editor John Carney, simply for standing up for me during the period when this writer took a lot of flack for writing the series and expressing my thoughts about the situation.

John says it's just part of the job and I agree.

It doesn't mean I have to like it.

What is truly laughable are the continued attempts to label me anti-Islamic because I have a problem with people cutting up their pre school children during a religous ceremony. While the links to images I posted have expired, some examples can be found here. I must warn you, they are not for the squeamish.

As I've said before: Regardless of their faith, I refuse to believe that anyone would consider mass child abuse as acceptable behavior. Using my criticism of those who take knives to their children as proof that this writer has "made his views on Muslims clear" is dishonest at best.

It is this type of criticism that has a chilling effect on writers everywhere - professional or otherwise. Anyone who dares to publish anything other than what is politically correct hears from the professional grievance mongers, hungry for their next target.

If someone is going to slam me, I'd rather they do it by pointing out what was inaccurate with my series, instead of accusing me of having a dark history of being a closet-racist ... "some-one that targets the vulnerable and weak elements in our society to satisfy his inner-orgies of hate and chauvinism."

What really gets me is the last line...

It is time we should stop making excuses for Brian Mosley's explicit pronunciations of hate and intolerance and call a spade a spade.

If I had written those last five words ..... hooo boy.... if you think I was slammed before...


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So they are using a free site to service their own racial prejudices? I believe that is against Wordpress's Terms of Service as they are now funding it.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Tue, Feb 12, 2008, at 12:25 PM

It is a shame that people who do not have a real argument, throw insults and names around like it justifies something. As Momma used to say the louder you get, the more apparent it is that you are in the wrong.

Of course she was talking about verbal disagreements since blogging had not even been thought about, but it seems to apply.

-- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Feb 12, 2008, at 1:02 PM

I wouldn't' worry about what these individuals have to say . . . it seems funny that all the criticism is coming from people not even living here and thus do not know the situation or the context in which your articles are referring to. They just want a bandwagon to jump on and they found a pathetic one at that.

To be honest Brian, I did disagree with the beginning of your series because I thought you were viewing just the Somali side of the issue but after I read the whole series then I realized you discussed both sides of the issue with the knowledge and contacts you had. Unlike so many of these people who are labeling you as a bigot and racist, I lived at David Estates for five years and was there for a year and a half after the Somalis moved in before moving out do to the activities of the Somalis living there. The place was peaceful and nice but no sooner than they moved in then the environment definitely went downhill. Residents started to complain about foul odors coming from their apartments and the smell would enter our apartments. Also, a couple of Somalis were caught doing drugs in the hallway and they would get into arguments in the hallways and parking lot day and night. They would also make all kinds of noises and yell during the middle of the night and some nights it would be hard to get any sleep because of it. Also, there were several Somalis who would hit other people's vehicles and then drive off without stopping or they would be caught hitting the car and then exclaim they didn't do it even though the person saw them do it. I even had one woman stand in front of my door yelling on her cell phone so when I opened the door and asked her kindly to please go in her apartment or not talk so loud she then told me to shut up and proceeding to yell at me for interrupting her. I mean, it was a nightmare and even the other neighbors who were from India had problems with them and they eventually moved out because they didn't feel safe there anymore and I moved a few months after that. It was just amazing to see how a group of people could change the atmosphere of the apartment complex in such a negative way. This is what upsets people so much . . . I could care less what skin color a person is or what religion they believe in but when they act in such a bad manner and have no respect for me and where I live then I have no respect for them.

It angers me that people who have no clue about the situation and what goes on here because they don't even live here but yet go around and labels us as bigots and racist because we voice our frustration in dealing with a group of people who don't seem to respect the people already living here and don't want to work on finding a common ground. I am the most open minded person out there and the fact that someone that insinuates that I am bigot without even knowing me or my experiences just goes to show how ignorant and stupid they really are and the same goes with Mosely's articles.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Tue, Feb 12, 2008, at 1:58 PM

People need to be informed and that is just what you are doing. For the ones that do not want that info, they need to keep their opinions to themselves and quit reading your articles. If what you write is documented and you have the facts to back it up, please continue to keep all of us informed as many of us do not have the time or resources to research this info.

-- Posted by nailman on Tue, Feb 12, 2008, at 2:01 PM

Keep up the good work Brian..... You can't please all the people all the time!

-- Posted by jkelley on Tue, Feb 12, 2008, at 2:29 PM

I applaud you and I will admit that I am anti Islamic!

-- Posted by michaelbell on Tue, Feb 12, 2008, at 3:02 PM

Personally, I enjoyed reading the very informative articles. For 2 years before I read your articles I witnessed the behavior from the Somalia women in town. I posted one of these earlier (when your articles were being published) about a woman screaming at the photo girl at Walgreens. The other 2 where at Wal Mart and one involving my mother. The first one, I ignored and chalked it up to rudeness and got over it....the second, that involved my mother, there were actually words exchanged in front of the milk cooler when the Somalia woman opened the cooler door that my mother was standing in front of and hit her with the door. My mother, (in her late 60's) was deciding which milk she wanted before opening the door. I agree this could be annoying to someone wanting to get milk and run. This woman came out of no where! Jerked the door open, hit my mother, grabbed her milk, muttered some words and began to walk off. Unfortunately, I could not let this go and confronted her. My mother and I really thought she was going to start swinging any minute. Well, she ranted all the way down the center isle but I didn't get hit. lol

I think the majority of people do not see you as this bigot or being racist. For the ones that do, they either don't know because the don't live here or as I've learned the hard way...."the truth hurts". Keep your focus and report the facts. When the day is over, that is all that matters anyway...the facts. You certainly should not feel that you should justify reporting the truth. Thank you for your hard work.

-- Posted by ontheoutside on Tue, Feb 12, 2008, at 3:08 PM

I personally enjoyed your articles a great deal and learned many things from them..it was good to know also that I wasn't the only person having trouble with the Somalis. I thought at first maybe it was my tone that they didn't like..so I set out to be extra nice to them and when that didn't work I decided they just had a chip on their shoulder and no matter how hard I tried it wouldn't do any good. Sometimes I could actually hear their hate in their voices and see it in their eyes. And I had never even met them before they walked into my office.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Tue, Feb 12, 2008, at 5:21 PM

I wonder how much of any inappropriate behavior is due to the individuals' lack of character and how much stems from the suffering in their lives.

I've known of other victims (Holocaust survivors,etc.) who dealt with their traumas by lashing out at the world and being suspicious and resentful with everyone.

Ironically,that encouraged some folk to think that they had earned their ill treatment.

It took a lot of time,fortitude and understanding on all sides before those inner wounds could heal enough for them to respond to the world with joy,trust and hope.

This would be difficult for anyone-much less people who were learning about the positive part of life for the first time.

A mutual desire to get acquainted and join forces for common goals will wear away the barriers between us and change us from unwilling neighbors to allies and friends.

We need to stop seeing the labels put on people and look at the folks within.

A glimpse at Brian Mosely,for instance,might not show a perfect person deserving unequivocal and universal adoration but it would reveal a normal human being who has the right to his opinions and can even have permission to be correct once in a while.

It's easier to find fault without being encumbered by accuracy or fairness but such criticism injures the people who indulge in it more than the persons they attack.

-- Posted by quantumcat on Wed, Feb 13, 2008, at 1:14 AM

I find no fault with anyone until they give me reason.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Wed, Feb 13, 2008, at 9:40 AM

Yeah, like my total dislike of your stop and go sentences but I try and compromise and accept it and read on.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Wed, Feb 13, 2008, at 11:17 AM

I am confused. Why is it wrong for Somalis, offended by Mr. Mosely's writings to organize a non-violent campaign to coordinate their written response? When the only newspaper in town gives unlimited front page airtime to anti- Somali rhetoric, isn't it reasonable and natural and understandible for Somalis to coordinate a written defense / counterattack? When Mr. Mosely is criticized, doesn't he respond? Don't his editor and publisher coordinate this defense with him? Of course! So what is Mr. Mosely's point? He says they smell bad and are gangsters. They say he is a bigot and a bad writer. Where's the beef?

-- Posted by andy33 on Wed, Feb 13, 2008, at 9:09 PM

It would have been nice if the Somali community would have responded when Mr Mosely ask them to contribute to the series instead of trying to start a war afterwards. But I guess that would have been too easy.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Wed, Feb 13, 2008, at 9:42 PM

I think this is a free country, and they can respond however they want, so long as it is non-violent!

Whether or not they have a real basis, doesn't concern me, but if you want to silence them, then silence everyone!

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Wed, Feb 13, 2008, at 10:04 PM

loblert,

Their so-called organizing is based on hatred. Not questioning. Just like your hate mongering and racial profiling of everyone in previous blog entries. I find you a troll, and an outright disgrace when it comes to standing up for the Constitutional rights of a American citizen. He didn't criticize, all Brian did was retell experiences that other people had with certain Somalians.

If you would have read all 5 parts of the series, he was biased to the point of having people complain from all sides of the fence. So, to call him a bigot and a racist is one of the furthest things from his article. Now, if you condone genitial multilation, degradation of women, and "mercy killings" then so be it. But it is hard for most people to comprehend such a disgusting way of life.

If you would take the time to see they mean to harm him, then you should walk among them. As I fear, you wish him harm too.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Wed, Feb 13, 2008, at 11:29 PM

Evil Monkey:

Your post is a little disjointed. My claim, in summary, was that since Mosely criticized the Somalis, it is understandable that they have coordinated a written response. In reply to my argument, I think I hear you saying:

1. The Somalis criticizing Mosely are hate mongers

2. I am a hate monger

3. I am a disgrace

4. I am an Internet "troll"

5. I do not defend our constitutional rights

6. Mosely did not criticize Somalis

7. To believe Mosely's writings were bigoted is to support genital mutilation.

8. The Somalis mean to harm Mosely.

9. I mean to harm Mr. Mosely.

Lets just say you wouldn't have done too well on the debate team (no offense!). Perhaps you could refine your argument?

P.S. - I don't wish Mr. Mosely or anyone any harm. I am simply sharing my views on an important topic just like you are.

-- Posted by andy33 on Thu, Feb 14, 2008, at 12:25 AM

loblert,

What exactly are you saying? Are you reformatting what I said for a reason? I am going to guess, due to this pitiful tactic, you are either:

1) a legal secretary

2) a law student that needs more practice or

3) a really bad lawyer

because there seems to be no reason to reiterate what I stated before. Your feeble attempt to place me at a high school level has shown me you are still using elementary techniques from a debate class in the 1970s.

I previously stated, In OTHER Blog forum posts you have attacked Brian and others with racial motivated dialogue. Every single post had something to do with Race or religion.

Also, If you look, You ONLY seek to post on any of Brians Blogs or Articles; therefore you are searching for reasons to discredit him and anyone else that agrees how he feels.

For example, when trying to discredit me, you inserted words like Somalis into what I said. Never once did I mention a race, or nationality personally. You did. So please, do me a favor and stop trying to understand me and rewriting my words to suit your agenda.

KMA,

Evil Monkey

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Thu, Feb 14, 2008, at 3:36 PM

Mr. Monkey,

I have posted on Mosely's blog when he writes what I perceive to be biggoted things. My posts point out why I think his writings were unprofessional or biggoted. I have also written that I think some of your comments are biggoted and mean spirited. Most recently, I have written that it would only be natural for Somalis to write responses to Mosely's' characterizations of them as smelly and dirty and unsophisticated. The topic of this and the other blog entries to which I have posted is Shelbyville's Somalis and the controversy that Mosely's recent articles and editorials have caused. So let's all stay on topic. I am.

-- Posted by andy33 on Thu, Feb 14, 2008, at 5:03 PM

Loblert,

Nice try but you are twisting this yet again. What you percieve and understand is not warranted because you have a hard time understanding the difference between being writing for everyone and not for a minority. He tried to tell both sides, but none of the Somalians gave him the time of day. Do you not understand?

You keep bringing up the same topics stating Brian said they were smelly, dirty and unsophisticated. What he said, referred to where they come from compared to where they live now. NOT THEY as in the Somalians, but where they lived. Again, you twist things to suit what you want other to think.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Thu, Feb 14, 2008, at 6:25 PM

That is logically incoherent. You may have the last word if it pleases you.

-- Posted by andy33 on Fri, Feb 15, 2008, at 6:28 PM

Logically incoherent? Did it take you all day to come up with that or was the travel time to purchase a thesaurus to post the so-called Last Word?

What did you not understand? That you are a wanna-be lawyer or a vengeful individual out to get Brian Moseley?

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Feb 15, 2008, at 7:27 PM

I wouldn't call you "anti- islamic",but i will call a certain Shelbyville factory "anti- American".I'm just the latest statistic of american workers being pushed aside for the "Somali refugees".There are government incentives for company's to hire "politcal refugees". Which,in turn,gives American workers an unfair disadvantage.Why treat american workers with a little dignity and respect, when they can "strong arm" a workforce of foreigners and get the same result?

-- Posted by "swole up" on Tue, Feb 19, 2008, at 7:15 PM


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