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Wildlife Ways
Vicky Carder

Deer - a Paradox

Posted Monday, January 14, 2013, at 10:13 AM
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  • Always remember nature will take care of itself,and hunting keeps the game population in check.

    -- Posted by kings11 on Mon, Jan 14, 2013, at 5:41 PM
  • Hi, kings11.

    I absolutely agree with you. Nature does take care of itself - except when we humans or our actions interfere.

    -- Posted by wildwoman on Tue, Jan 15, 2013, at 7:57 AM
  • Since humans are part of nature, I don't see our actions as interference, just part of the system. Mother nature has smacked us around from time to time over the years.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Jan 16, 2013, at 4:20 AM
  • I see your point, quietmike.

    But, for example, in this area the natural predator for deer would be wolves. Way back when, humans hunted and trapped wolves almost to the point of extinction in the south. We took away the natural predator and now the deer population is out of control.

    How about when someone shoots a bald eagle?

    Or someone shoots a mother bird for the fun of it and there are orphan babies left behind?

    I believe that when God created us it was well-balanced - animals, nature, habitats, etc. I can't see the balance when animals are killed or injured by cars, or BB guns. I don't think the intention was for baby rabbits to be run over by lawnmowers.

    A snake made its way into one of our songbird pre-release flight pens. It killed a couple of birds and was discovered with a cardinal which was partially eaten. The volunteers were all mad at the snake and wanted to kill it. It is natural for snakes to do this, and the snake was freed. We did a better job with our pens after that!

    In terms of Mother Nature smacking us around - I agree. But the difference to me is that the storms, floods, hurricanes, etc. are natural events and not created by humans.

    This is definitely an interesting topic and I hope to hear more on the subject!

    -- Posted by wildwoman on Wed, Jan 16, 2013, at 9:08 AM
  • I like your comment about the snake wildwoman. There is not much that we do not catch, remove and release, except fleas, ticks and cockroaches of course.

    We try to avoid anything on the road, including snakes and coyotes. It would not be unusual to see us shooing a snapping turtle off the road or any other creature that needs a little encouragement and help to cross the road.

    That does not include animals we think are rabid. We don't hit them but we do not get out to help them either. If it is that obvious that they are impaired, they are not long for life anyway.

    If rabid skunks, coons, etc. are around our house, I dispatch them, then burn or bury (deep). That is about the only reason I would do it unless they are in the process of attacking one of our animals. Then, their bubble of protection from me is burst. :-)

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Jan 16, 2013, at 9:50 AM
  • That protection extends to deer as well. For some reason they graze my front yard and even walk through the gardens but do not stop to eat. As long as that continues, we are good.

    If it changes, I would think about protective barriers but killing would be the absolute last option and only if my garden was our major source of food. In that case, venison would sound good anyway.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Jan 16, 2013, at 9:53 AM
  • Thanks, Steve. When I created Walden's and shaped its mission and growth, it took a long time to emotionally separate from what is "natural" and what isn't!

    -- Posted by wildwoman on Wed, Jan 16, 2013, at 4:42 PM
  • I can imagine it would be a heart tugging battle. Last night I saw some kittens in a parking lot and worried about them not having anything to eat on a cold night. I went to a local grocery store and bought some kitten food to put out for them.

    A fellow in the store said I should just leave them to live or die and I understood but responded that they might be killed tomorrow, but they won't starve to death in the cold on my "watch".

    He asked if he hung out in a parking lot, would I feed him. I joked that as long as he ate kitten food, we were good, but yes, I have taken a number of persons asking for donations on a city street into a local restaurant and bought them a meal.

    If they won't do that, then I question how destitute they really are and move on without a concern. Hmmm, I think I will go to see if the kitten food is gone. :-)

    -- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Jan 18, 2013, at 9:32 AM
  • Be aware for you never know when you are entertaining Angels.Who said they had to be in human form?

    -- Posted by kings11 on Sun, Jan 20, 2013, at 4:55 PM
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