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Dress code thoughts

Posted Monday, February 25, 2008, at 9:28 AM

Ideally, once the Bedford County School Board realized there was a major uproar in the community about a dress code it could have put the matter up to a referendum. They'd had time to get on it on a ballot early this year in time to, if approved by voters, implement it this fall.

A dress code beyond the one already in place wasn't necessary. If there's a problem with gang wear go after the suspected gang members, not the innocent who've done nothing wrong. And I have yet to hear a logical explanation on what's wrong with striped shirts.

School years are a time of learning and developing individuality. Students will find out soon enough about inappropriate clothing, and corporate confirmity, when they apply for jobs in the real world. Some things are better learned through life's lessons and experiences -- and aging -- rather than from teachers' lectures or long lists of rules.

At the same time, I can see where some teachers would have problems with students wearing clothing that may be considered inappropriate to the majority of people.

And I'm not suggesting this at all, but...I think my facts are correct on this: If 30 percent of the total number of votes in the last election can be gathered on petitions, a recall election on school board members could be requested. Just some food for thought for those who may want to take action beyond complaining.

I suspect school board members, whom I think have generally done their jobs well, were trying to do the right thing. But there seems to be an underlying suspicion among quite a few people that social status is involved in some way.

Are too many elected officials here too upscale -- and too oriented toward an upscale lifestyle and friends who live acordingly -- to understand how many struggle financially?

There's nothing wrong with "upscale" unless it affects how the fortunate view those with less money. But those affects are clearly evident with a few people.

And the perception remains that some citizens, for whatever reasons, feel they weren't heard. I've written for years that local officials need to do something, and I'm not sure exactly what, to address what we've heard for years about most local governing bodies: Some members don't listen to those not part of certain social classes.

Key words for officials: Listen. Relate. Doing so makes a world of difference.


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I'm not following how a dress code makes someone in the school board feel more upscale? Elaborate?

-- Posted by LauraSFT on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:44 AM

I suspect, LauraSFT, that some decisions are made from the point of view of well-off people who don't understand how, for example, a dress code can be costly for those with less money. Some parents have already indicated this.

-- Posted by David Melson on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:47 AM

Let me add also that I don't think every member of the school board or of other governing bodies locally are guilty of this or are snobs. Some just need to think about how others live a little more.

-- Posted by David Melson on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:50 AM

Shelbyville's government is ran by a majority of individuals who are fairly well off and so there is a certain disconnect between them and most families that are getting by day to day. Unfortunately that is how government works now . . . the people who have the financial means get elected, not the most qualified or better person. Shelbyville is a bit of enigma to me because it seems more intent on serving and catering to the horse show and its selective crowd then the actual residents here or they want to work on issues like the dress code when there are far more serious problems to deal with. I just don't understand this town and the people who try to run it.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:53 AM

Ah ha! Thanks. I just wasn't connecting the two.

-- Posted by LauraSFT on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:59 AM

jaxspike, I totally agree with you. I do think that a fair amount of 'catering' to the horse show people is retroactive, though, to the amount of tax base collected while the Celebration is running. I sincerely hope that Doyle Meadows will work with Shelbyville and the USDA and other HIOs to restore the Celebration. It has fallen dramatically in the last 10 years and Shelbyville/Bedford Co. could certainly reap more than they do from it now.

Did the school board ever present current and researched data on dress codes and student achievement or student morale? I'd like to know what the reason was for bringing it up in the first place? I asked this on another post, but thought I'd ask again.

-- Posted by Jacks4me on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 10:10 AM

Is there anywhere in town to buy these clothes besides Wal-mart? This ought to pad their pockets pretty well.

-- Posted by hhhmmm... on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 10:41 AM

No, unless you count Goodwill. And most of the clothes there are not acceptable because of frayed edges on the end of the pants,etc. Personally I think this move will hurt the economy in Bedford County. It may boost it at first because everyone who is planning on sending their kids to public school next year will have to buy new clothing. But parents will not be buying the Hannah Montana clothing, or High School Musical, etc for their children. They will be only buying the necessities.

I agree that we should all get together and get the county to change their vote. But money talks. And unless you have it, no one is going to care what you say. I am curious what kick backs the school board members will get from passing the dress code.

The dress code is not going to have students focusing on their work. If they don't care about school before now, they probably are not going to either even though they are wearing different clothes. It will probably make them dislike school even more.

-- Posted by dlove on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 11:19 AM

The dress code is not going to have students focusing on their work. If they don't care about school before now, they probably are not going to either even though they are wearing different clothes. It will probably make them dislike school even more.

-- Posted by dlove on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 11:19 AM

You're probably right.

-- Posted by LauraSFT on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 11:56 AM

I went to the court house to the Election commission office, back in December or January, to see what would need to be done to get this on the election ballot in Aug. and was told that was an issue that could not be put on the ballot. I really don't under stand why that is? If we can vote on liquer by the drink, and vote for local goverment offices, why is it that we could not vote on this? Can someone expalin it to me?

-- Posted by punkin1129 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 12:03 PM

Because it isn't a federal or state law, this is a little county code.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 12:40 PM

Didn't we vote on a county wheel tax? It may have to do with the fact it is a school issue and the school board is elected to conduct the business? I don't know.

-- Posted by Jacks4me on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 12:42 PM

If there is going to be a dress code then just let there be a dress code(even though I am against it)!! Because it looks like the only thing that has changed is the shirt has to be a polo style and a certain color and it does not even apply to elementary kids? What's the point?

-- Posted by jssg1975 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 1:05 PM

Because if any one student is caught on camera vandalising, or committing other acts of indecancy then the probability of isolating the suspect becomes a far greater challenge.

Heaven forbid a bunch of kids get in a fight or beat up one child? How will they identify them so easily, being that the chances of them all looking the same will divert the ease of figuring out who the prime suspects are.

All of those folks who were on here a couple of weeks ago crying shame about "being against all forms of socialism"... well where are you now? I sure hope you aren't contradicting yourselves now! On a side not, I am for socialism when it comes to being overtly dismissed by corporations and unjustly denied the necessities to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 2:47 PM

The dress code is another way of forcing individuals to conform. What happens if a parent refuses to provide there children with the appropriate attire? Put em in jail, that makes a lot of sense, what with overcrodwing an all. I can see the headlines now. "Parent arrested and placed in custody for not buying the correct clothes". What a joke!!

-- Posted by Bill H on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 3:22 PM

jssg1975,

How many kids do you have in grades 6- 12? Are they boys or girls? Now, remember its just plain jeans, Good luck finding a pair for girls. No embellishments whatsoever. Well have fun finding that.

For the boys only 4 pockets, 2 on front, 2 on back, no little fifth pocket because they can hold crack in it. Seriously, that is what I was told.

No leg pockets like cargo pants either.

Plain colored polo shirts, with a small logo (like McDonalds, BK and Wendy's has). They can go down 6 inches, but you need to wear a t-shirt under it.

Belts, All students must now wear belts. Ok Good luck getting girls to have 1 or 2 belts. Just won't happen.

And for the thicker students, that is going to be hard to find.

I suggested to my son, that we are going to buy one of the heavy weight boxing belts, he is going to wear a Wendy's shirt and jeans. He suggested wearing his underwear on the outside of his pants, with a bra on the outside of his polo shirt. Since it isn't against the Dress code.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 3:24 PM

My 15 yr. old said the same thing kindof! What will they do to us if no one (the whole school) dresses that way next yr. when we go back?

-- Posted by Disgusted on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 3:25 PM

EM My 16 yr. old daughter is a size 1 and 5ft. 8in. the 15 yr. old is about size 2 and 5ft. 4in. maybe! Impossible to shop for....

-- Posted by Disgusted on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 3:29 PM

I say all kids should do that... There is no way in the world they can send every kid home. And if they really want to have meetings with all these kids in the gym about "following rules" well then perhaps the administration needs to look in the mirror.

Had they enforced the outgoing policy none of this would even be considered.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 3:30 PM

If there is going to be a dress code then just let there be a dress code(even though I am against it)!! Because it looks like the only thing that has changed is the shirt has to be a polo style and a certain color and it does not even apply to elementary kids? What's the point?-- Posted by jssg1975 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 1:05 PM

Yes it does affect elementary kids. The only exception to the dress code for them is that they can wear jeans. But they must be of a certain color and style that the school board hasn't announced yet. But they have to follow everything else in the dress code.

-- Posted by dlove on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 5:35 PM

Yes it does affect elementary kids. The only exception to the dress code for them is that they can wear jeans. But they must be of a certain color and style that the school board hasn't announced yet. But they have to follow everything else in the dress code.

-- Posted by dlove on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 5:35 PM

And where did you get that bit of information? It was my understanding that 6-12 could wear plain jeans and that this would not apply to k-5.

And to those that say the new dress code will keep the economically disadvantaged from participating in extra-curricular activities, I do not see how that could be accurate. If any student with the talent and desire to participate in athletics, band or clubs, coaches and teachers will do everything possible to enable these students to participate. Uniforms are provided by the school in sports, cheerleading and band. I know of coaches that will ask for sponsors to donate cleets, basketball shoes, gloves, etc. so that those who cannot afford it will have items needed to participate. These organizations also have fundraisers to make money so that camps and activities can be attended.

The school system and the school board are not against these students. In most cases, these are the children that we carry in our hearts and we do all we can to give these children a hand "up" so that their lives may be improved.

-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 7:00 PM

Ok so which member of the board are you?

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 7:19 PM

Yes uniforms are provided by the schools but did you know that there are fees that goes along with those activities? These fees pay for camps and purchasing new uniforms. Shoes, gloves, camp wear etc are extras on top of the fees. Not to mention gas to and from games or to and from practice.

Fund-raises pay for trips out of town for tournaments.

And about Fund raisers I have heard right here on these blogs about people hating fund raisers and complaining because these kids are asking them to buy things from their school or sports team. Yet it looks like there will be even more fund raisers don't it?

-- Posted by Dianatn on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 7:20 PM

And to those that say the new dress code will keep the economically disadvantaged from participating in extra-curricular activities, I do not see how that could be accurate. If any student with the talent and desire to participate in athletics, band or clubs, coaches and teachers will do everything possible to enable these students to participate. Uniforms are provided by the school in sports, cheerleading and band. I know of coaches that will ask for sponsors to donate cleets, basketball shoes, gloves, etc. so that those who cannot afford it will have items needed to participate. These organizations also have fundraisers to make money so that camps and activities can be attended.

The school system and the school board are not against these students. In most cases, these are the children that we carry in our hearts and we do all we can to give these children a hand "up" so that their lives may be improved.

-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 7:00 PM

WRONG WRONG AND MORE WRONG!!!! The school nor the teachers provide a single instrument for band..ZIP ZERO ZILCH!! You pay for them and heaven forbid you go outside the company they choose for you to buy your instrument from, they tend to get a bit mad. Thank goodness the first year the UT at Chattanooga let me buy one of their used instruments, but now I have to pay and let me tell you, the teacher isn't going out of his way to help, only saying "No instrument, no play". Sorry but you are full of B/S...they don't pay for anything. Ask football players/basketball players/cheerleaders parents how many teachers go out of their way to make sure underpriveledged children get to participate...NOT A DANG ONE OF THEM THAT'S FOR DARN SURE!!!

The band did not have one single fundraiser this year so guess who paid for the books, the reeds, the extra practices, the "required" school shirt to participate in pep rallies? ME, NOT YOU AND CERTAINLY NOT ANY SPONSORS OR TEACHERS!

Go shovel that crap elsewhere.

Nobody here (this county) cares about the underpriveleged...you care about the haves and the horse show people...end of story.

STOP BEING A WUSS AND TELL US WHICH BOARD MEMBER YOU ARE AND KISS YOUR SEAT GOODBYE!!

-- Posted by Disturbia on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 7:46 PM

Ok, so I am on the school board just because I don't have a problem with the dress code? No, I am not on the school board. I am an average citizen that works for a living and struggles with money just like the rest of you.

Disturbia, I am not the one on here shoveling crap. There are teachers and coaches in this county that care alot about the economically disadvantaged. You are not being realistic when you lump every coach and teacher together in the category of not caring about certain students! There are bad apples in every profession. How dare you tell me how I feel! I will admit that I know nothing about the band instruments, but I do know about being a parent. I would do without, take an extra job, whatever I had to do to provide my children with the extras they needed to participate in these activities as I am sure you would do for your children. The dress code will not change that desire. Where there's a will there's a way.

-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 8:05 PM

Disturbia,

You stop being a wuss and tell your name! And why don't you run for the school board since you seem to know so much about the school system.

-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 8:15 PM

Where there is a will there is a way huh? So tell me, who is going to pay the babysitting fee while I take on another job? ARE YOU?? Who's going to help my little ones with homework, cook supper, take them to various things or should they give that up to so mommy can become non-existent..WILL YOU DO IT? Will you come over here and be a free nanny for me? I do without, I scrimp and save, I give up things that I want. But there is only so much I can do without, HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT OF THAT?

THIS PROVES YOU ARE A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER..

"The school system and the school board are not against these students. In most cases, these are the children that we carry in our hearts and we do all we can to give these children a hand "up" so that their lives may be improved."

-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 7:00 PM

WE carry these children in our hearts...WE would mean YOU the school board SIR...

-- Posted by Disturbia on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 8:18 PM

Disturbia,

You stop being a wuss and tell your name! And why don't you run for the school board since you seem to know so much about the school system.

-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 8:15 PM

My name is Krista (will not give my last name, just in case you decide to hunt my children down)....A proud mother of 3 wonderful honor roll children and no thank you, I prefer to remain out of politics, but I am outspoken and there will be pickets going on and peaceful demonstrations. These aren't rumblings of things that might happen, these are things that are going to happen, I have talked to parents that are ready to line the streets and protest the day school starts back and kids wearing what they want. And why don't I run, I don't want to corrupt nor sale my soul for political gain. Thanks, but I have a conscience and won't mess over an entire county. I would actually vote with my conscience and what I feel is right, something the school board obviously can't or won't do.

There my name is out there and I have nothing to hide, I am proud of my kids and I will support each and every child that revolts against you and the school board. And from reading this blog, I am most certainly NOT going to be alone.

-- Posted by Disturbia on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 8:26 PM

Whatever.... And I am not a sir. I am a ma'am.

-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 8:27 PM

Personally if I were only concerned with myself or my family then I could honestly say the dress code wouldn't effect us one way or the other except objecting to conformity. Ours will still be able to do the things she has always done if she chooses to but there are so many children in this county that will be unable to stretch their funds enough to continue outside activities.

Bedford county is not the rich town many people think it is, many families in this town struggle to make ends meet, some can't even make those ends come close to meeting. These are the families I am concerned about. I do worry about the children who we give left over clothing to because we won't have any SSA clothing this year to give them. I am seriously considering taking one or maybe two families, if I can swing two and buying their children's SSA clothing. I realize this is not my job or my place to do this but who else is there?

Maybe if everybody in Shelbyville that was actually for this SSA took one family that honestly could not get their child the required clothing and bought their SSA clothing, maybe this process may make some see how some families are forced to live in this town.

As Far as the Teachers or Coaches caring about children without funds, I can say yes they probably care but I do know also most have families of their own and don't make a great deal of money themselves.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 8:32 PM

Excuse me MA'AM....but you answered NONE of my questions!! And I answered yours...which tells me you have to be a school board member since you can't answer a simple question..

and funny your name MURPHY'S LAW means:

an adage in Western culture that broadly states that things will go wrong in any given situation, if you give them a chance.

LMAO

so are you Amy, Dixie, Mary Jo or Diane?

-- Posted by Disturbia on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 8:36 PM

Kudos to Dianatn. What a wonderful notion. Let's make the best of a tense situation and work together to make sure all students can start the new year off on a positive note. Debbie Downers like Disturbia do nothing but drag us down. We live in a time where we are afforded the luxury of being able to voice our opinions. They are not always heard, but we move on and make the best of the situation. What are we teaching our kids? Dianatn's suggestion is so heartwarming. This is what we all should do. Ask ourselves what we can do to make this change run more smoothly. How can we help? I may not agree with what has been chosen for us but I will make sure that my children follow the rules that have been placed before them. Just like I have done before now. We owe our children that.

-- Posted by Meaty on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 8:52 PM

QUESTIONS:

Where there is a will there is a way huh? So tell me, who is going to pay the babysitting fee while I take on another job? ARE YOU?? Who's going to help my little ones with homework, cook supper, take them to various things or should they give that up to so mommy can become non-existent..WILL YOU DO IT? Will you come over here and be a free nanny for me? I do without, I scrimp and save, I give up things that I want. But there is only so much I can do without, HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT OF THAT? WE carry these children in our hearts...WE would mean YOU the school board SIR...-- Posted by Disturbia on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 8:18 PM

RESPONSE:

Whatever.... And I am not a sir. I am a ma'am.-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 8:27 PM

I noticed you didn't say you were not on the school board... Just that you are a woman. So now, answer the rest of those questions that were presented to you.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:13 PM

Dianatn,

You are correct that teachers and coaches do not make alot of money. We struggle just like most families in Bedford County. We do care for these children and try as much as we can to help.

Disturbia,

As far as your questions are concerned: No, I won't pay for your babysitter. I won't be your nanny. I have my own children that I help with homework, my own house to clean, my own supper to cook.

I am well aware what Murphy's Law means. But thank you for clearing that up for the other bloggers who may not have known. What does Disturbia mean? :)

Here are my questions to you. Why do you assume that anyone on these blogs that are not bothered by the dress code is on the school board? There are those of us in the county that do not care one way or another that have no association with the board. And why are you so hostile to those people?

-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:17 PM

What are we teaching our kids? Dianatn's suggestion is so heartwarming. This is what we all should do. Ask ourselves what we can do to make this change run more smoothly. How can we help? I may not agree with what has been chosen for us but I will make sure that my children follow the rules that have been placed before them. Just like I have done before now. We owe our children that.

-- Posted by Meaty on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 8:52 PM

I suppose you would had the same thoughts when children were to told to "obey the rules" and take part in Segregation as well? This is what happens when bad government intereferes with education. Let the process run itself. If the board wants to talk about real change, how about you start talking to the state legislatures and demand teachers be paid more, given more affordable insurance, etc... But I guess, this is just part of "obeying the rules"... Most people don't like socialism, well can you please define what education is?

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:18 PM

Thank you meaty that is my true feelings.

I do need to say I am not for this SSA in any shape or form but then again I wasn't for Bush or the Iraqi War either and you see what that got me.

I just feel somebody is going to have to help these children who's families can not afford SSA clothing. I am at a total loss at how to help them all because as of yet I have not won the lottery :>) but I do know I should be able to help a couple of families at least.

My child will follow the rules also as she always has done not because we feel SSA is right or fair but because of the consequences that follow her into adult life. Thank Goodness we only have a couple more years before she is out of High School.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:19 PM

Meaty,

I am no Debbie Downer, but thanks for the new name, I am teaching MY children to question authority, stand up for what you believe in, don't fall for anything that has your heart questioning it's validity, Take action, be active and TO NEVER conform to someone's idiotic notion of what they should be or how they should be. I am teaching my kids to love the enviroment, to be different, and to embrace those differences.

And so far so good, they are great kids, that have respect for others ONLY if they are given respect in return, as it should be, they are humans, not little robots being trained, they are being taught the world is different and that we all have a special place in it.

The school board has not given me or anyone else a good reason to have this dress code and my kids will fight it, along with alot of other kids and as a loving mother, I will support them in their decisions, because they will grow up and if I don't let them make decisions now, they will never learn how to. They know right from wrong and good from bad and they know this is wrong and bad!

-- Posted by Disturbia on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:23 PM

Goodness I get off work and this blog has swelled to an alarming number of posts...

Murphey's Law, you are obviously a teacher/coach or board member... Hostility is usually a result when the "elected" officials totally ignore the people. If you wanted to avoid hostility the simplest way to combat it, would be take care of the CORE problems, deal with individual problems on an individual basis.

I think you would be highly upset if your child was put in ISS or OSS when they FOLLOWED the new dress code and others chose not to. Now simply reverse the situation and what do you have, YOUR child having no choice but to succumb to the dreaded new policies, simply because a few couldn't obey the previous dress code. The irony is rampant, it just takes a little more paying attention to.

Dianatn, you have a very practical solution and are very noble for it. But just giving in is exactly what government has expected from the people. Why do that? You, nor I have ever been for Bush and his war, NCLB, among other issues, and HE nor his VP has had to answer to ONE SINGLE PERSON. We needn't let Bedford County officials feel they should wallow in his footsteps. Like someone said in an earlier entry [forgive me, I just now read through them all] you "eat an elephant one bite at a time."

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:26 PM

As I read the replies to each other's thoughts I realize that the negative posts draw the most response. Why is that? Unfortunately some of us thrive on turmoil. We are not happy unless we have something to gripe about. All of this negative energy is being generated over something that will not change in the near future. Maybe if we surround ourselves with the positive aspects of the situation we will feel better about the changes. The book The Secret tells of this. Maybe Disturbia should read it. Why not get on this or any other forum and look for the positive side and report on it? I feel that this would not be this person's desire. Unfortunately some thrive on the negative side of everything. Surround yourself with negativity and that is what you reap. Surround yourself with the positives in life and you surround yourself with the good things. Much better for our stress levels and our health in general.

-- Posted by Meaty on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:35 PM

jesuslovesevery1,

I am a teacher. I stated that earlier in a post on another blog about the dress code. I wasn't elected and I didn't have a vote to accept or decline the dress code. I simply gave my opinion and I was met with hostility from some of the bloggers. But as I stated previously, I am a teacher and I have developed thick skin over the years! :)

-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:35 PM

Well said Meaty!

-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:37 PM

Meaty,

Do not claim to know my desire....I don't thrive on the negative, you don't know me and hopefully I will never get the displeasure of knowing you, do not talk about me like I am not here. You come on here with you peaceful holier than thou attitude.

Maybe Disturbia knows the secret and isn't sharing it with you? hmmmmmmm...thought about that? Disturbia is an outspoken person that has beliefs and doesn't cower in the corner, agreeing with the "man" just because they think it's right. Disturbia is a calm person that thinks her kids have the right to not be conformist. Disturbia also says that if you have anything else to say, ask for her email and take it over there. and off this blog

Sincerely,

Disturbia

-- Posted by Disturbia on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:41 PM

You too Murphey's Law. Teachers do have to have thick skin. Since all they do is drink coffee, talk on their cell phones, give busy work, and show movies. I should be so lucky as to have that job and get paid for it.

-- Posted by Meaty on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:42 PM

That's a good one Meaty! As Disturbia said LMAO!

-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:45 PM

Hey Meaty,

Since all they do is drink coffee, talk on their cell phones, give busy work, and show movies. I should be so lucky as to have that job and get paid for it.

Are you my daughter's teacher? My child learned that you can text on 2 different phone while you teach and play the DS while grading papers....and she loves Rattatouie so much they let her watch it twice.

-- Posted by Disturbia on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:46 PM

Maybe if we surround ourselves with the positive aspects of the situation we will feel better about the changes. The book The Secret tells of this. Maybe Disturbia should read it. Why not get on this or any other forum and look for the positive side and report on it? I feel that this would not be this person's desire. Unfortunately some thrive on the negative side of everything. Surround yourself with negativity and that is what you reap. Surround yourself with the positives in life and you surround yourself with the good things. Much better for our stress levels and our health in general.

-- Posted by Meaty on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:35 PM

I'm sorry, but I am STILL waiting on all the "positives" of a dress code from the school board... But since they couldn't supply anything substantial or credible, I guess negativity is what you are going to hear... After all, they were selling us an idea, that had no research to prove it's benefits. It isn't our job to defend something we didn't want passed. We are able to speak against it, b/c we didn't want it.

So Meaty, I am glad you appeared out of nowhere... Must be nice to have those "inside connections"

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:49 PM

So sorry to get your dander up Disturbia. But I will not give my name for fear that you will hunt my children down like you insinuated one of the other bloggers would do to yours. I do not have time to spar with someone who apparently has too much time on their hands that they can spend hours a week griping about things. Goodnight.

-- Posted by Meaty on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:52 PM

Anyways, when is this petition going to be delivered... I have been hearing all day about this massive email going around, with every BOE member's name and the dates they are up for "re"election.

I know someone who has recruited three potential opponents, something the board members don't seem to be used to.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:53 PM

jesuslovesevery1

You know me well enough just from these blogs as a rule I am the most out spoken person you could ever deal with and I have no problem with saying what I think or standing up for what I believe in..problem here is there is more at stake than me or my views.

A handful of children protesting SSA is not going to stop this there are far too many children in the school system that are associated with city officials and school system members that will not be allowed to do anything but follow the rules. Whether they actually agree with SSA or not.

The only way for the children to fight it is to refuse to wear SSA approved clothing but there will need to be many many students who refuse to make a difference and that is not going to happen here in Shelbyville.

So why risk 11 years of a great school record by getting ISS or OSS for the first time in her entire school years for protesting something that will end the same way.

In the end I guess I'll have to take mustard with my elephant.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:55 PM

Meaty,

seems like you have just as much time on your hands as I do. Pot calling the kettle black....

I didn't give my last name just so "teachers and school board members" that come on here can't figure out which kids are mine and pick on them and YES that happens.

You didn't get my dander up, I don't back down from my beliefs which is something I CAN'T say for you. You just run off. Or run off and create a new name Murphy oops, I meant meaty, sorry, my bad.

-- Posted by Disturbia on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:56 PM

But I will not give my name for fear that you will hunt my children down like you insinuated one of the other bloggers would do to yours. I do not have time to spar with someone who apparently has too much time on their hands that they can spend hours a week griping about things. Goodnight.

-- Posted by Meaty on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:52 PM

I didn't know time could be placed on hands. And if that's all they have time for, then I guess hunting down children is out of the question. Again, it's funny you know a blogger has spent hours a week "griping" yet this seems to be your first appearance, coincidence I think not.

So, Meaty, take your own advice and provide some "positives" about the dress code.... We are the protestor's not the proponents...

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:57 PM

Could anyone please explain to me the reasoning that teachers and administration do not have to follow the dress code? If they belive in this dress code so much why not put it to the test with themselves first!

-- Posted by For the kids on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:59 PM

Can someone say "Meaty you are getting grilled" HAHA?

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:59 PM

Could anyone please explain to me the reasoning that teachers and administration do not have to follow the dress code? If they belive in this dress code so much why not put it to the test with themselves first!

-- Posted by jesuslives on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:59 PM

WOW, our names and opinions are almost identical.. SCARY!!!

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 10:00 PM

But aren't they such positive names!

-- Posted by For the kids on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 10:03 PM

WHY DO WE HAVE ANOTHER BLOG ABOUT THE STUPID DRESS CODE????

T-G, PLEASE... This is getting NOWHERE, fast!

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 10:03 PM

Maybe I did come out of nowhere. I heard about all the blogs and decided to put my two cents worth in. I am not Murphy's Law. Here again it is assumed that there are only a handful out there that are not bothered by the dress code. Maybe I am getting grilled but I like my meat grilled. It's better for you anyway.

-- Posted by Meaty on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 10:06 PM

So why risk 11 years of a great school record by getting ISS or OSS for the first time in her entire school years for protesting something that will end the same way.

In the end I guess I'll have to take mustard with my elephant.-- Posted by Dianatn on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:55 PM

Why waste 11 years of great school results and no run-ins with the principal on having to abide by rules that SHE never broke to begin with Mustard with the elephant? LMAO! good one... but I'd rather free the elephant, than eat it.

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 10:07 PM

Still didn't answer MEATY on how you know I spend hours on here if you just heard about the blogs. FISHY FISHY I SAY..it's better for you than meaty meaty anyway......oh look, a poem :)

-- Posted by Disturbia on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 10:09 PM

Maybe I did come out of nowhere. I heard about all the blogs and decided to put my two cents worth in. I am not Murphy's Law. Here again it is assumed that there are only a handful out there that are not bothered by the dress code. Maybe I am getting grilled but I like my meat grilled. It's better for you anyway.

-- Posted by Meaty on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 10:06 PM

"Heard about these blogs" obviously weeks ago, and there have been probably 10 "Dress Code blogs" and 6 or 7 news stories... and you suddenly felt like responding. I thought you said goodnight, already.

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 10:09 PM

But aren't they such positive names!

-- Posted by jesuslives on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 10:03 PM

YES!!! But I do agree, if the school board feels they are justified in passing this "code"... then let them be the very first to try it. It's EASY to pass new rules that in no way effect those who pass them... And I guarantee you, all of these board members grandchildren will thank them when they grow up and recognize that no matter how equal you try to make the playing grounds, NOBODY is the same... They'll be so disappointed when the "real world" they were prepared for is a stark contrast to what they were taught.

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 10:13 PM

I have posted my comment's on the other blog yesterday.I am a mother of a son who is a Jr. at Cascade High. He is our youngest child. His 5 other brother's and sister finished school any were from 19 years ago to 5 years ago. We have never had this problem come up about what the children should wear and not wear to school.It is going to be HARD on us and alot of other's too. I can not see that it will do any good to stand outside the school's next year with sign's or anything else showing that you do not agree with this NEW LAW about what the children should and should not wear.I don't remember people geting this up-set when prayer was taken out of school. BUT I could be wrong cause there was no Blog's back them. All I know is that I am very Thank-ful to have my son with us to buy what ever he may need for school. The reason I say that is because I live in WARTRACE and the people here in our town have watched several of our children from WARTRACE and CASCADE HIGH be laid to rest too many times in the past several years. I know that these MOM's and DAD's would love to have their son's and daughter back so they could buy them a few polo shirt's or tan pant's.YES YES YES it is going to be hard on alot of us. But not as hard as it is on these other MOM's and DAD's that can not see their children anymore. Let us all just count our blessing's and keep going.

-- Posted by rebelrose on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 11:42 PM

I have posted my comment's on the other blog yesterday.I am a mother of a son who is a Jr. at Cascade High. He is our youngest child. His 5 other brother's and sister finished school any were from 19 years ago to 5 years ago. We have never had this problem come up about what the children should wear and not wear to school.It is going to be HARD on us and alot of other's too. I can not see that it will do any good to stand outside the school's next year with sign's or anything else showing that you do not agree with this NEW LAW about what the children should and should not wear.I don't remember people geting this up-set when prayer was taken out of school. BUT I could be wrong cause there was no Blog's back them. All I know is that I am very Thank-ful to have my son with us to buy what ever he may need for school. The reason I say that is because I live in WARTRACE and the people here in our town have watched several of our children from WARTRACE and CASCADE HIGH be laid to rest too many times in the past several years. I know that these MOM's and DAD's would love to have their son's and daughter back so they could buy them a few polo shirt's or tan pant's.YES YES YES it is going to be hard on alot of us. But not as hard as it is on these other MOM's and DAD's that can not see their children anymore. Let us all just count our blessing's and keep going.

-- Posted by rebelrose on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 11:42 PM

I find it amusing that the people who are 'for the dress code' are COMPLAINING about the people who are 'against the dress code' complaining.

-- Posted by nellie on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 5:51 AM

I have 1 daughter in the 10th grade at Community. And I have heard that they are planning on going to school dressed as they normally would next school year. As far as I have read and heard, it DOES not apply to elementary kids so I am assuming that they will just have the dress code that is in place now?!

-- Posted by jssg1975 on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 9:16 AM

thats correct.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 11:40 AM

what in the world and how in the world do you people think that taking pot shots at each other is going to correct the problem at hand!we still have drugs, gangs and illegals in the schools.the presidential candidates have nothing to do with our newly adopted SSA.those of us whom are against it will stick together,as will those who aren't.can we get back on track here??

-- Posted by shrtckt2003 on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 11:46 AM

rebelrose,

Losing a child is sad, but what does that have to do with the dress code? Did a child die due to a dress code infraction?

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 11:46 AM

EM, you went a little too far there. I agree that losing a child is sad. The last part is uncalled for. It would have shown more class to just let that go. But you missed the point that this code is so small a deal in the bigger scheme of things. Are you going to fight this much if your child's school does not make AYP this year?

Disturbia, I am a teacher. I can't, and won't, tell you how many cheerleading, soccer, football, etc. fees I've paid over the years. I don't have children. The fees were for students who needed them. I know a lot of other teachers who have done it too, and we all do it anonymously because we don't want a child to feel obligated to us. So do not assume there are no teachers who pay out of their own pocket to help the kids.

And the cell phone thing...I trust you punished your daughter for texting while in class, disobeying rules.

-- Posted by Jacks4me on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 12:42 PM

Jacks4me,

Is it a little too far? What she had said made no sense nor did it have anything to do with the topic. She used something that everyone would regard as something sad, and how does that change the topic to "Why is this dress code needed and why was it passed when it effects so many people?!"

Dress codes don't kill people, people kill people.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 12:56 PM

And the cell phone thing...I trust you punished your daughter for texting while in class, disobeying rules.

-- Posted by Jacks4me on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 12:42 PM

Why would I punish MY CHILD for her TEACHER texting on HER phone? That makes no sense, I wouldn't give a 9 year old a cell phone. The teacher text on her phone (2 of them to be exact) all during class, my daughter knows more about this woman's fiance and personal life than she does about geograpy. I get an ear full everyday, I have my own little walking soap opera be-bopping through the door every afternoon. I am not saying all teachers are like this, but this one happens to be.

And if there are teachers that help, I have yet to encounter a single one that helps any kids that I know. For every 1 good there are 10 bad teachers.

-- Posted by Disturbia on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 1:02 PM

My child's school AYP has to do with the way he is dressed? Funny. Do I fight if I see other problems in school? Damn right I do, how many times do I talk to schools? More than once a week to make sure my child is doing what he is supposed to do.

Do I check on the teachers? Darn right I do, and you know what? If they need something and let me know? I am there supporting it.

But this dress code is not good. It doesn't help teachers, students or parents. I have explained over and over, Laura is the only one expressed her opinion on a solution and that was, Little susie would have to wear her dress uniform as play clothes too if she wants to continue on with cheerleading practice. I respect her for saying and I never once attacked her for that.

Other solutions was to have teachers pay (they have so little anyways) for the financial strapped children. With a 50% below poverty level county, I find that hard to swallow and I am not an idiot to believe that.

This dress code is one of the worse decisions that has ever been made. And saying I don't have class, tell that to the children they won't be able to attend their afterschool activities due to no money or embarrassment because they can't ask for hand-outs. Remember, children have been told by their parents NOT to ask for hand-outs.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 1:08 PM

I would like to know WHERE they provide all the stuff mentioned, because my son has been involved in several different sports at school and it is VERY expensive and it comes out of MY pocket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by titansfan on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 1:28 PM

Cascade & Community are very fine schools we may agrue a little amoung ourselves but that is just us. We have great kids!

All this is going to do know is maybe spruce us up a little (not that we needed it)

Shelbyville, you can clean a little pig and put a pink ribbon around it's neck and it is still going to the mud hole at the end of the day! Good luck to you and your mess!

-- Posted by punkin1129 on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 2:01 PM

Disturbia, sorry, I misread your post. It sounded like your daughter was texting.

EM- AYP is Adequate Yearly Progress and it means that the kids are learning what they should be learning. I really hope you're as concerned with the learning as you are about what they can wear to school. And please don't curse at me.

-- Posted by Jacks4me on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 2:13 PM

Jacks

I didn't curse at you and I am not one of your students so don't talk to me like one.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 2:15 PM

Jacks,

What you are trying to say is the way my child dresses increases the AYP? Could you please show me some evidence on that?

Both of my children have straight A's, and I can afford whatever is necessary for my children. The point is, you are not thinking as a county, but as one individual. The focus is on each and every child should have the same opportunity to learn at school. This dress code is not only reducing what activities they can do at school, but any afterschool functions too.

How can you back this up and only worry about the AYP? OOOOH I see because it only affects YOU!

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 2:22 PM

Wait a minute, You are a teacher yet you are talking on this blog during school? Why aren't you teaching?

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 2:24 PM

The same could be said about half of these people who are at "work" getting paid to be on the TG blogs... Yet, most of those are for the dress code, and talking about discipline and respect, lol.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 6:36 PM

Errr...

What happened to the concession booths at the Celebration?

I thought one of the reasons for having the horse show was to give civic groups,school groups,etc. a way of earning monies that would fund non-necessary expenditures and augment what was already available for necessary matters.

If taxes aren't paying for the required equipment,apparel and materials and booths and fund-raisers,aren't,where is the money we supply to these sources going? How much more do they need?

Band and chorus are CLASSES.

They need to have their tools available just as art classes,physical education and science labs would.

If a child lacks clothing,school supplies or textbooks or if they can't become competent in certain subjects because of the costs of learning those subject,then something is very,very wrong.

Students should not be deprived of their education because their families can't (or won't) provide every dime needed to provide them with what they require.

(One cost-cutting measure could be firing public employees if they ignore the duties they get paid to perform.)

We owe our children access to an optimal education - whatever it takes to supply the means.

Only when that has been achieved for all students should non-necessary costs be incurred or "frills" provided.

Our fundraisers were supposed to pay for the "extras" like trips.

Now,we see that they can't even supplement taxes and parental support enough to see that every child has what is needed?

Show a list of every item our classrooms and pupils require to accomplish what the kids are in school for then line up the responsible parties until every child has received those mandatory items.

The responsible parties include all of us.

(If we don't shell out for our kids health and education,we'll pay for their lack at a much higher cost.)

We should see that true NEEDS are being met across the board before anyone spends a cent on expenses we could do without.

It would be a lot easier to get support from the community if it could be shown that non-essentials come last and good stewardship is provided for every matter connected with our children.

-- Posted by quantumcat on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 10:00 AM

I would think all the churches would organize to provide the dress code attire.

-- Posted by nellie on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 1:35 PM

It is good that churches would do that, the only thing that makes me feel strange about that is "people who really need clothes, and food, and possibly shelter" may be missing out on blessings from these churches because the expenses MAY be used up for SSA. Now does that really seem fair?

I believe since the "Bedford County School Board" decided to put this into affect, they should be the ones to find ways, and or help for the families that may have hardship with buying these type of SSA attire.

Churches have a budget they spend toward helping others; and IMO I think it is unfair to use this SSA situation with their budget. This is a problem that can be avoided, but the School Board chooses not to. So they are the ones that need to make things work out for those that are less fortunate; I really don't think they "Know" about people or families in these type of situations (poverty level), and that is really sad.

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 6:52 PM

Geez Louise EM - I am trying to give you ammo. That's my point. If the school doesn't meet AYP, what was the reason for the dress code? If a dress code is the only intervention they are giving a school to make better grades, they obviously aren't doing much to help the school. There are tons of other practices they should be promoting rather than a dress code. I have said before I am neither for or against, but the more research I do, I find I am leaning against.

It's called planning, to grade 110 papers in 55 minutes and get lessons ready for the next day and go to a meeting and get make-up work for absent students and call parents to check on their kids and/or give an update and fulfill mentoring duties and do research on best teaching with my other subject area teachers and ,of course, to blog a minute :-)

-- Posted by Jacks4me on Thu, Feb 28, 2008, at 7:41 AM

Jacks4me,

Heh Look I am evil, sorry for that.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Thu, Feb 28, 2008, at 10:33 AM

In the old days,children were started on needlework,cooking,carpentry,gardening,laundry and other survival skills as early as possible.

If they hadn't learned them at home,they were taught at school- sometimes,in preference to the three R's.

By the time they reached the upper grades,they had the knowledge to make and maintain basic clothing including outerwear and undergarments.

"One to wash,one to wear,one for best and one to spare" in a handful of standard prints and colors took care of their whole wardrobe.

These skills saved them money and enabled them to outfit their homes and families as adults- or even provide their livelihood.

Necessity dictated that boys and girls be as self-sufficient as possible.

Not needing such talents is a luxury.

Not having them is a handicap.

Perhaps some SSA clothing could be made as class or club projects similarly to how food for the hungry is provided,layettes for premature infants in the hospital,lap robes and houseshoes for hospitalized veterans and nursing home residents,clothing and linens for disaster victims and other worthwhile projects.

As we add one more application of the life skills taught as part of our "back to basics",we could hone their other subjects as we insure the students have abilities they could use all through life-and provide for themselves much of what they now must take from their parents or schools.

-- Posted by quantumcat on Thu, Feb 28, 2008, at 12:53 PM

I sewed my own clothes from age 8 on a foot pedal machine (sounds ancient), but getting the collars and buttonholes right would be a pain.

-- Posted by Tinaw on Fri, Feb 29, 2008, at 5:27 AM

Then we'll try to change the SSA to collarless pullovers. ;)

-- Posted by quantumcat on Fri, Feb 29, 2008, at 7:52 AM

David Melson, you are so right. The elected officials have no consideration about how most people live day to day, paycheck to paycheck. There is overwhelming research to indicate that a dres code is not a deterient to violence in the schools or is the reason student scores increase. If a student wants to hurt someone having on certain clothes will not change their mind. Perhaps the reason test scores improve is because teachers are doing the jobs that do not get paid enough to do. some schools have a dress code that

is not a financial burden and is followed. Those schools that did not do this should have been the ones made to do so, not create a burden for everyone.

-- Posted by concerned4u on Fri, Feb 29, 2008, at 9:42 AM

take me to jail becuase my child or children didn'twear the right clothes to school. I DARE SOMEBODY!

-- Posted by shrtckt2003 on Sun, Mar 2, 2008, at 11:31 PM

Wow... What are we teaching our 8th graders? That no one can have an opinion but them? When my kids were this age, I don't think they knew or cared what we could afford. I think people can usually afford whatever they set their mind to.

I hope everyone does try to buck the system next year, I'd like to see what happens. I would have loved for this to be the rule when my kids were in school. Just get up and put it on, no fighting over what to wear.

-- Posted by cfder on Mon, Mar 10, 2008, at 8:48 PM

No, we don't think we are the only ones who can have an opinion, but you ADULTS seem to think that they are the only ones who can have an opinion. I've been taught to stand up for what I believe in and I'm not afraid to do it.We will report to school wearing what we want to wear. It's called freedom and apparently we have none. My dad is sitting right here and he stands right behind me. He supports me. So what now?

-- Posted by terrortiffany10 on Mon, Mar 10, 2008, at 8:56 PM

This is not the solution to the problem of drugs, gangs, and violence. When is society going to wake up and deal with the real problem? How many of the nationwide school shootings had SSA? Did columbine? Franklin county? Memphis?Virginia Tech? No. Two kids at Columbine called themselves the "trenchcoat mafia." One pissed off kid shot several people at Virginia Tech for no apparent reason. Tech schools don't have SSA. If this is our baord's answer to school violence, then apparently they have the wrong answer. Maybe some students get pissed off about the way they are treated by teachers and faculty. Teachers cuss and smoke. They do drugs and molest. We are only recently learning of the molestation by male and female teachers nationwide because the kids are finally speaking out. Teachers are paid by tax-payers and controlled by state curriculum. If they get disgruntled or feel that they have a cushy job, they could be the reason these children lash out. When is everybody going to wake up?

-- Posted by shrtckt2003 on Mon, Mar 10, 2008, at 9:07 PM

When the time comes for the legal U.S. citizens to picket the SSA, how many illegals are going to be standing in the picket line? Race is not an issue here. Citizenship IS. Why can't the American citizens wear a shirt proclaiming their faith in the Lord but a child from another country can wear a towel on their head? Or beanie cap? Or a red dot on their forehead? Isn't that a proclamation of their faith? What's the difference? That is religious discrimination. It's unconstitutional and there will be so many lawsuits that the "board," if they can call themselves that, won't be able to swim in their own spit.Next year's horseshow fund will be goig toward lawsuits instead of roads and schools for those of you who didn't know.

-- Posted by shrtckt2003 on Mon, Mar 10, 2008, at 9:21 PM

what happened to my comment????? Somebody not like what I said?

-- Posted by terrortiffany10 on Tue, Mar 11, 2008, at 6:48 PM

I really don't think the schoo's AYP is going to have anything to do with SSA. It's not going to affect the school's performance AT ALL! I mean, what's the point? It's not going to help.

-- Posted by terrortiffany10 on Tue, Mar 11, 2008, at 9:50 PM

Yeah, there is a thing called favoritism on these blogs... Get used to it, lol. Only certain people get comments edited, and such.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Tue, Mar 11, 2008, at 10:02 PM

darrick, i agree with your points, terror tiffany is my daughter and i stand behind her completely.somebody didn't like what my 13 year old said and deleted it.yet another example of what OUR government will and will not ALLOW!!COMMUNISM IN IT'S BEST FORM!

-- Posted by shrtckt2003 on Wed, Mar 12, 2008, at 10:53 PM

NEWS FLASH!! Let's make all AMERICAN WOMEN wear scarves over thier faces,andAMERICAN MEN control ALL of the female population in AMERICA???? WHY NOT?we're headed that way anyhow.

-- Posted by shrtckt2003 on Wed, Mar 12, 2008, at 11:06 PM

I just entered this discussion and find it almost impossible to keep out of it. Several years ago, a teacher was flaunting her cute little bod in short skirts and skimpy blouses much to the happiness of many male teachers and young boys. If anyone should have to wear uniforms, it should be some of these people, not children. I don't want my son or grandson watching a 20-40 year old flaunt her loveliness instead of giving them the opportunity to understand history, language, math and they can learn biology the good old fashioned way --out of a book! If the kids have to wear uniforms, so do the teachers! What's right for some is right for all.

-- Posted by grannyapple on Thu, Mar 13, 2008, at 2:07 PM


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