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In The Year 2525 and beyond

Posted Thursday, June 26, 2008, at 11:56 AM

It's only oh, about a little over 500 years, until we're "In The Year 2525."

Prince sang about 1999 back in the 1980s. But '99's past. Been there, done that.

But in 1969, two guys named Zager and Evans looked at 2525 and beyond with a negative look.

Check out these lyrics: http://www.lyricsondemand.com/z/zagerand...

Summarizing, they expected everyone's actions to be controlled by pills, machines operating literally everything, no marriages with individuals choosing test-tube children, no need for food or eyesight, and God being displeased by man's actions.

Oldies.com's reviewer describes "2525" as one of the most irritating songs ever recorded. (My vote for that one goes to almost anything from the 1960s by Donovan. Remember him? "Mellow Yellow," "Hurdy Gurdy Man" and "Atlantis"? The 1960s produced some of music's best and worst. Nothing being released today seems to irritate me as much.)

Any thoughts about our distant future?


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So the ACLU isnt defending NAMBLA on the basis that the age of consent laws should be lifted, so they can molest children? Are they not also trying to get child porn laws removed because that is a violation of their first amendment rights?

Section 1988 of the United States Code, requires taxpayer funding for any civil rights case. So they are making gobs of taxpayer dollars.

The ACLU shadowed, and protested the minutemen project on the border. They also were going out flashing their lights to warn the illegal immigrants where the minutemen were.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Mon, Jul 7, 2008, at 12:04 PM

when did you ever hear me say anything about "Legal Immigration"? I fully support immigration in a legal manner. Illegal immigration is what upsets me. You also have never heard me support or defend Bush or McCain, so I dont know where that comes from. So again, I think its another bout of liberal tourette syndrome.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Mon, Jul 7, 2008, at 10:34 AM

Concerning LEGAL immigration this is from the ACLU's site: (Note: It does NOT defend or mention ILLEGAL immigration)

"Every wave of immigration into the United States has faced fear and hostility, especially during times of economic hardship, political turmoil, or war:

* in 1882, Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act, one of our nation's first immigration laws, to keep out all people of Chinese origin

* during the "Red Scare" of the 1920s, thousands of foreign-born people suspected of political radicalism were arrested and brutalized; many were deported without a hearing.

* in 1942, 120,000 Americans of Japanese descent were interned in camps until the end of World War II.

It is true that the Constitution does not give foreigners the right to enter the U.S. But once here, it protects them from discrimination based on race and national origin and from arbitrary treatment by the government. Immigrants work and pay taxes; legal immigrants are subject to the military draft. Many immigrants have lived in this country for decades, married U.S. citizens, and raised their U.S.-citizen children. Laws that punish them violate their fundamental right to fair and equal treatment"

I sure hope by 2525 people have learned to accept "different" people who are here LEGALLY.. No you don't have to accept them, but that doesn't matter, the Constitution protects them, whether YOU like it or not..

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Fri, Jul 4, 2008, at 10:54 AM

"Apparently I hit a nerve?"

LOL.. Funny, In the year 2525 I doubt the ACLU will be of any worries... Because the "socialist NEO cons" who have destroyed America throughout history will have a much more despicable legacy.

If/when your GOVERNMENT falsely accuses you of wrongdoing and sends you to prison without charging you, and there is NOBODY there to defend you, I hope you don't ask the ACLU to help you...

By the way, your tax dollars don't go to the ACLU, it is member supported and they take donations... there is no tax levee breaking in their favor.

All of the hyperbole you say the ACLU defends is ridiculous. They don't protect GUILTY child molesters, they protect FALSELY ACCUSED crime suspects and they protect them with none other than what is written in the Constitution.

They don't DEFEND terrorists who have been CHARGED with crimes... They DEFEND terrorists who are HELD on PURE UNFOUNDED SPECULATION... The ACLU "helps" illegal immigrants across this border? Hmm, isn't it JOHN MCCAIN AND GEORGE BUSH who want AMNESTY for Illegal aliens... Maybe when your half brain cools off it can help you type with reason, instead of rhetoric

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Fri, Jul 4, 2008, at 10:49 AM

I shouldnt have to prove it. The ACLU does defend these people on occasion, they also turn right around and sue them also. We can both sit here all day and list cases for each side. The ACLU for one is a socialist organization, and if you wont listen to their persecution of christians, then I will take it a new direction (so im not repetitive). Why would they support the rights of child molestors, to molest children. Why do they constantly defend terrorists, with funds and legal support. Why do they help illegal immigrants across this border, with illegal immigrants turning us into a third world country. They should be held accountable for every person hurt or killed by an illegal immigrant. I could go on all day, but my "half a brain" wont hold up that long. Their only reason for being is to further their socialist agenda, to remove freedom which they say they are defending and in turn they are helping to destroy this country. They are an unneeded plague on the people of this country and I am tired of my tax dollars helping to fund these scum sucking bottom feeding lawyers. To support or defend this group is absoloute lunacy. Thats all the "useless, repetitive, rhetoric" I have for now. When my half a brain cools off I may try again.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Fri, Jul 4, 2008, at 10:23 AM

Yes sharon22 I think you did hit a nerve. Some people cant see that the ACLU is part of the problem in this country.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Thu, Jul 3, 2008, at 9:01 AM

Prove it.. You are full of useless, repetitive, rhetoric... If you had half a brain, you'd know full well the ACLU defends pastors, churches, and students who wish to practice Christian beliefs in certain places... But I guess when they do that, they obviously contribute to "part of the problem..."

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Thu, Jul 3, 2008, at 10:02 PM

Apparently I hit a nerve?

-- Posted by Sharon22 on Thu, Jul 3, 2008, at 12:21 AM

It must that one that reacts to stupidity...

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Thu, Jul 3, 2008, at 10:00 PM

Im just asking for an example, because it seemed like it was directed towards this blog. I didnt realize it was liberal tourette syndrome.

Yes sharon22 I think you did hit a nerve. Some people cant see that the ACLU is part of the problem in this country.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Thu, Jul 3, 2008, at 9:01 AM

Apparently I hit a nerve?

-- Posted by Sharon22 on Thu, Jul 3, 2008, at 12:21 AM

The ACLU?

-- Posted by Sharon22 on Wed, Jul 2, 2008, at 10:00 AM

Show me one right they have taken away? They have protected the rights of MANY Christian's where the law allows them to force their religion down others throats.. Where it is NOT allowed to be shoved down everyone's throat is where the ACLU steps in...

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Wed, Jul 2, 2008, at 6:28 PM

The ACLU?

-- Posted by Sharon22 on Wed, Jul 2, 2008, at 10:00 AM

If I have to tell you that, it wouldn't teach you a thing, Do a little research, I will not feed you the information you seek..

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Tue, Jul 1, 2008, at 10:28 PM

Nascarfanatic,

? who is trying to take others rights?

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Tue, Jul 1, 2008, at 9:17 AM

Maybe by 2525 the number of open-minded people will vastly outnumber the close-minded, phobia ridden plethora of human beings that currently exist. As is obvious by reading the rantings of people who aren't happy until others have no rights to celebrate.

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Mon, Jun 30, 2008, at 9:07 PM

Your FIVE topics could be answered by a decline in immorality as stated by doublej and a rise in PERSONAL responsibility. DoubleJ hit the nail on the head.

I will defend the institution of marriage, because my wife and I have something special, it is not devoid of credibility or sanctity. It means alot to us to be married and to be as one.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Mon, Jun 30, 2008, at 11:23 AM

and all I said darrick was this: "with the seemingly scary rise in homosexuality, youth pregnancies, murders, etc., this world is about as bad as I've seen it."

do you not see the rise in IMMORALITY in this country? how can you disagree with that? IMMORALITY is not a good thing by most all logical accounts. so, as for 2525, i'd say it will probably be worse in just about every category. one of the biggest problems we see in this country is people not standing up and being responsible for themselves and their families as well as expecting the government to hand everything to them. most all of these problems start in the homes and our society has gradually gotten worse because of that. it's as simple as that whether you want to admit it or not.

-- Posted by DoubleJ on Sat, Jun 28, 2008, at 2:17 PM

I would rather see two men holding guns instead of hands. I would like you to educate me on why the murder rates increase. I would be interested in your views on that.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:59 AM

That's one of the hundreds of reasons... But this blog isn't about that. I was simply responding to DoubleJ's comment. As you notice I posted the last paragraph which said "Our distant future? Perhaps a world that works in cohesion on major issues like environmental responsibility, poverty, disease, famine, and corrupt governments... Instead we're too entrenched in people's personal lives to see the devastation happening around us. Merely pathetic..." Hmm, here I posted FIVE other topics besides that ONE that none of you addressed. This is highly indicative of America as we see it or "Bible belt states"... let's not do a thing about the other FIVE topics, but let's make sure we defend an institution that has no credibility or sanctity left.

Perhaps some of you anti-everything people could enlighten me on what would make a better world in 2525? Maybe add your thoughts to the five other subjects I mentioned, which all of you continually ignore.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 7:17 PM

That's pretty normal on these blogs, EM...

-- Posted by Mike Molder on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 4:43 PM

How did this even turn into about homosexuality? I mean really, this is WAY off the topic of what the OP was even talking about.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:21 PM

I'd like to see all the pro-homosexual advocates on these blogs identify themselves as homosexuals if that be the case. I have a lot more respect for those who are out in the open about it than the ones who remain "in the closet". I'm not referring to anyone in particular, but would like to at least know who has a legitimate grip about the treatment of Gays and those who are just being confrontational about it. If you're homosexual, identify yourself as such please.

This is a bible belt state and homosexual activities is frowned upon in these parts. I personally don't have a problem with it. As long as your not attempting to push your preferences on me, a hetersexual male, then I could care less what you do with your loved one. God will sort out who is right and wrong on this issue come judgement day. It isn't for me or anyone else to decide.

-- Posted by Dolittle on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 9:30 AM

According to the lyrics were already there or not to far off anyway. Half the country is strung out on prescription drugs, so we are controlled by pills, we cant even buy food without the technology we have now (remember the y2k scare)so we are dependant on "machines"

Darrick,

I dont approve of people getting married for the kids, they shouldnt be having sex out of wedlock anyway. And who gets "uneeded judgement" when they get divorced? Divorce is as commonplace as a trip to the grocery store, its the hip thing to do. I do agree divorce is a problem, though. Divorce is sad and tragic and should be treated as such.

I would rather see two men holding guns instead of hands. I would like you to educate me on why the murder rates increase. I would be interested in your views on that.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:59 AM

Darrick_04, I don't get what you are even talking about! Homosexuality is NOT pleasing to God. Do you read the bible? And as for murders, they may be declining somewhere, but lately, every morning on the news you hear that someone was shot or stabbed or robbed. I completely agree with Ashley and DoubleJ. People's personal lives are getting entangled with others everyday due to all of the violence and nonsense that is going on. We all see the devastation around us, we're not blind to it! And things are getting worse everyday! As for me, I don't agree with homosexuality, but I would rather see 2 men/women holding hands rather than a gun. At least then I would feel safe being around them. And as for your thoughts, I don't think they are way out in left field as DoubleJ said. They're simply not even in the park at all!!

-- Posted by candasons07 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:47 AM

darrick, some of your thoughts are way out in left field. as most all people would understand by my response, immorality in this country is at an all-time high. most people would completely agree with me.

-- Posted by DoubleJ on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:22 AM

I agree. with the seemingly scary rise in homosexuality, youth pregnancies, murders, etc., this world is about as bad as I've seen it.

-- Posted by DoubleJ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:30 PM

I can assure you homosexuals aren't responsible for teen pregnancies WHICH by the way have declined thanks to proper education and readily available birth control... Murders have also been on the decline, in many places if you actually research it...

As for pleasing God... It sickens me that people would rather approve of heterosexual marriages where either of those involved are unhappy yet "in it for the kids", or one of the two are physically or verbally abused, or simply will not get divorced for fear of the unneeded judgments from likewise imperfect people. In this country we'd rather see two men holding guns, than holding hands, yet DoubleJ and those like him/her can't figure out why the murder rates increase in some metropolitan areas... Double standard perhaps?

Our distant future? Perhaps a world that works in cohesion on major issues like environmental responsibility, poverty, disease, famine, and corrupt governments... Instead we're too entrenched in people's personal lives to see the devastation happening around us. Merely pathetic.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 7:10 PM

I can't understand the songs of today, so I don't know if they would irritate me. Nor can I listen to most of them long enough to try to listen to the lyrics.

I learned long ago that music physically affects me. Hard rock makes me irritable and angry. I used to manage some Holiday Inn restaurant/bars and my employees would notice a change come over me during certain times. I would pace and appear agitated.

It was the music. They learned to play different music and life was back to normal.

-- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:36 PM

I agree. with the seemingly scary rise in homosexuality, youth pregnancies, murders, etc., this world is about as bad as I've seen it.

-- Posted by DoubleJ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:30 PM

In some ways I think we're already living in that world. Drugs more prevalent than ever, the drop of morals and ethics, as to the pleasing God- well we have alot of work to do because as a society we continue to backslide into our very own hell.

-- Posted by reed_ashley on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:29 PM


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