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A multi-party system?

Posted Thursday, May 14, 2009, at 11:06 AM

It's wild watching moderate Republicans trying to gain ground within the party while conservative Republicans continue insinuating the nation's future is in jeopardy unless they're back in control.

Meanwhile, liberal Democrats' plans infuriate Republicans.

Seems like it has to be one extreme for another. Where are the moderates?

Well, moderates could be within a third party -- if such a thing could be formed in this two-party nation.

Other countries have more than two strong, relevant parties. It wouid take some changes in such things as the electoral college and Congress' majority/minority committee system, but change is often worth the effort

Mainstream America is too often outshouted by extremists ultimately out to force their own agenda on the world including those who may disagree, and whose main interest is their own political party. It's time for real Americans to be heard. A strong third party could get the job done.


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I stand corrected on Alexander. He did vote for the first stimulus package. On Oct. 1st the voted for H.R.1424. Lets not forget that George Bush started this stimulus steamroller and President Obama is in the drivers seat now and doesn't show any sign of slowing down.

-- Posted by docudrama on Thu, May 21, 2009, at 9:05 AM

No listing for Alexander as his vote for the stimulus package was last year.

Our great republican was interviewed on WTN and stated that while the vast majority of input to his office were against the stimulus, HE was going to vote for it because "he knew best" or words to that effect.

I have not seen a retraction on his web site since all the garbage came out about the stimulus so maybe he is just hoping OUR memories are short.

-- Posted by BobM on Mon, May 18, 2009, at 1:24 PM

I agree with you that had the Republican Party stayed true to its conservative roots and not alienated its base supporters there may very well be a Republican in the White House today.

-- Posted by docudrama on Sun, May 17, 2009, at 1:07 AM

I believe that would have been a possibility back then as well.

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Sun, May 17, 2009, at 1:17 PM

Thom, I am a conservative as well. I don't mean to come across as sarcastic. I agree with you that had the Republican Party stayed true to its conservative roots and not alienated its base supporters there may very well be a Republican in the White House today.

-- Posted by docudrama on Sun, May 17, 2009, at 1:07 AM

Attached is the web site for the votes cast by the senate, please go there Thom, and find any where that Mr. Alexander has voted for the stimulus package. I have checked every vote, and I can't find one that he voted for. I may have missed one, so please find it and let me know which bill or amendment he voted for. I found his yes vote for the congressional budget, but I believe that he is bound by his constitutional oath to vote on a budget, I know it is to be balanced but who are we kidding here you can't find two phrases more mutually exclusive than congressional spending and balance budget. But please let me know when you find a vote for the stimulus.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/ro...

-- Posted by docudrama on Sun, May 17, 2009, at 12:56 AM

How did Alexander break his constitutional oath? If it has to do with the bail-outs, then why am I not hearing calls for the resignation of the President both he and McCain nearly broke their necks to get back to Washington from the campaign trail to sit at Bush's side calling for the bail out of Wall Street.

-- Posted by docudrama on Sun, May 17, 2009, at 12:30 AM

Thom

Didn't you hear Arlen Specter say the Republican party has drifted too far right since 1980? ;-)

Yeah right!

So the republican party was more liberal by nominating Ronald Reagan than the current members who nominated McCain? Please.

The emasculation of the American population along with the dumbing down of our public school systems has produced a generation of entitled whiners who believe their only job should be to vote democrat every two years.

-- Posted by quietmike on Sat, May 16, 2009, at 12:47 PM

David, I have to take issue with part of this post. The "where are the moderates" question in particular. The answer to that is simple. The "moderates" are in the "Republican" party. If the Republicans had run with an actual conservative candidate rather than John McCain, they might have retained the Presidency. Instead, the Republicans have lost the Presidency. This after they had already lost control of Congress because GWB lost his mind in the last four years and decided to become more "moderate".

I would like to know which "moderate" Republicans are trying to gain ground in the party since it has been RUN by the "moderates" for quite a while now. TRUE CONSERVATIVES are shunned by the party at large, and media, as "extremists". Just because a person supports the Constitution of the United States, they are considered an extremist. Odd seeing as how every one of the knuckleheads in Washington has taken the above oath.

-- Posted by Thom on Sat, May 16, 2009, at 10:27 AM

Our "representatives" take an OATH. Every one of these oaths contain the phrase "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic".

It's got nothing to do with being a Republic or a Democracy. We are, by the way a Federal Constitutional Republic.

Regardless, if the "representative" isn't willing to honor his or her word by fulfilling this oath, then they have broken their contract with the people they represent.

-- Posted by Thom on Sat, May 16, 2009, at 12:36 AM

You have to remember that this is a republic not a democracy. This seems to be a major misconception. The only democratic area of our system of government is the election its self. Once elected our representatives vote their opinions and convictions. It is not necessarily to the benefit of their constituents, but for what he believes is for the good of the entire nation. If you are dissatisfied with the way the Senator Alexander is voting in Washington. Then during the next election work to get someone elected that reflects your point of view. Don't just cast a vote then revert back to the safety of your home. Get out and knock on doors talk to people on behalf of the person you are trying to get elected. As our new President has stated change begins with you, and you can change the world.

-- Posted by docudrama on Fri, May 15, 2009, at 11:04 PM

quietmike - PARTICULARLY the 10th Amendment

-- Posted by Thom on Fri, May 15, 2009, at 7:00 PM

A party that would stick with what is outlined in the constitution would be fine with me. Especially the 10th Amendment.

-- Posted by quietmike on Fri, May 15, 2009, at 4:22 PM

EM - If we're LUCKY they listen to the constituents' input. I doubt they even do that. The Senator's opinion is but 1 small piece of how he should vote as a REPRESENTATIVE of the people.

The first thing that "Senator" Alexander should consider is whether or not the item is Constitutionally acceptable (the "stimulus" is NOT). The second is the will of the constituents...WE pay his paycheck, WE didn't want this "stimulus" bill. Who does he think he is? And LASTLY, his own personal opinion...educated or not, his opinion is the LAST thing that he should consider.

On this, as other items, Lamar Alexander has FAILED the people of Tennessee.

-- Posted by Thom on Fri, May 15, 2009, at 2:33 PM

BobM,

I agree with you 100%. Listening to your constituent's input and doing as they want.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Thu, May 14, 2009, at 9:33 PM

The worst is the total lack of any concern from those in DC. They just do and do as they care to regardless of constituent input.

Case in point: Alexander stating on WPN, Nashville that even though the input to his office was overwhelmingly against the stimulus, he was going to vote in favor because "he knew best"

Too many it seems have forgotten the first 3 words of the Preamble to our Constitution, WE THE PEOPLE

-- Posted by BobM on Thu, May 14, 2009, at 12:30 PM

I absolutely agree . . . I cringed during the stupidity that ran amuck during Bush's administration and now finding myself cringing at the stupidity running amuck in Obama's administration.

I really do wish we had a central party that communicated common sense and the ideas of moderates and independents. Maybe that is a dream because too many Americans are too gullible into thinking there are only two parties and why we get the choices we get for president.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, May 14, 2009, at 11:16 AM

I absolutely agree . . . I cringed during the stupidity that ran amuck during Bush's administration and now finding myself cringing at the stupidity running amuck in Obama's administration.

I really do wish we had a central party that communicated common sense and the ideas of moderates and independents. Maybe that is a dream because too many Americans are too gullible into thinking there are only two parties and why we get the choices we get for president.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, May 14, 2009, at 11:16 AM


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David Melson is a copy editor and staff writer for the Times-Gazette.