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Picturing the Past 21: Back to 'The Main'

Posted Tuesday, August 11, 2009, at 10:25 AM

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North Main Street in March 1959, looking south from the middle of its intersection with Madison and Elm Streets.
Remember when a Shelbyville intersection known as 'The Main' looked like this? This photo was shot in the middle of North Main Street at the intersection of Madison and Elm Streets, looking south toward the square, in March 1959.

The crowd in the photo is gathered around a traffic accident, but there's a lot more going on here for today's viewer.

At far left is the traffic light, mounted on a short pole in the middle of the intersection, which a blog reader mentioned a while back. Looks like it has signs listing directions and mileage for other cities on the west and east sides.

Behind the traffic light is a small portion of the Firestone store which occupied the intersection for years; I'm thinking it was owned by Harry Alexander. Next is a neon sign advertising Bedford Court, which was actually located further out Madison Street (and which I think is still operating today as Bedford Motel). Miller's Restaurant occupies part of the building which later housed Western Auto into the 1980s or 1990s; looks like a Schlitz sign atop the main restaurant sign. Further down is a Pure service station.

Crossing North Main and moving from south to north, there's a "Used Cars" sign, then two buildings to the north is Segroves-Daniel-Gordon Realty & Auction, which appears to be in the recently-demolished building used earlier by Locke's Milk Bar and in more recent years by United Cities Gas and the Senior Citizens Center.

Next is Witt Motor Co. (see the Chrysler-Plymouth sign) and Glasscock Gulf.

I've split this photo into two portions to make each side larger and easier to see; look for photos 12 and 13 in the Picturing the Past photo gallery on this website.

Do you remember?

I received an e-mail last week from a blog reader who remembers growing up in Shelbyville in the middle 1950s and early 1960s - the exact period during which the above photo was made.

He remembers Gene Parks' furniture store (in the Holland Street building occupied today by a cab company) and adds:

"How about the sock hops at the old country club, in the basement near the bowling lanes? Or the LEMAC club at Central High? The Dixie Hotel, Mittwede Market, the original Dairy Queen on Madison St., Fly's Drug Store lunch counter, Swing's grocery located in an old trolley car, The drive in movie on Tullahoma highway, the original Pope's café, Or how about Race Horse Haynes, the teens' favorite policeman, Red Gibbs, a well respected highway patrolman killed in the line of duty? Rat Brantley, C. O. Jett, Ned Delk, Dr. Chambers, Miss Sarah Thomas and many others."


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Great photo, David, great memories. A lot of information contained in one photograph. They say one picture is worth a thousand words, and this would illustrate that saying perfectly.

One thing that really hit home for me was the Bedford Court sign. My father-in-law had pneumonia when his daughter and I were married, and naturally she was worried about him, and so we changed our plans to go out of town for a short honeymoon, staying instead at the Bedford Court, room 10. Now that she is gone, just passing by there often reminds me of how fortunate and blessed I was to have been chosen by her to be her life's companion.

-- Posted by ilikeoldsongs on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 11:16 AM

David, You have done it again with this great photo. I was afraid that you might not be able to find a photo of the most unusual "traffic light" (sorry about that Jody) and it would be lost forever.

ilikeoldsongs, I agree with you completely that this one is truly worth a thousand words, or maybe even more. It is good that this photo reminds you of your dear departed wife. We need to hang onto things that bring pleasant memories. When I think about Bedford Court or Bedford Motor Court I remember that when I was a T-G carrier boy we were always given a few copies extra in case we threw one on the roof or something. If I was real careful I could have my extras left over and I could go by Bedford Motor Court and a couple of the other Motor Courts and peddle my extras to the tenants for a nickel each of pure profit.

David, This photo has stirred a lot of good memories. When I think of the Firestone store I am reminded that it was once a Texaco Service Station operated by the Cartwright brothers. I think it was Leslie and Ben, and I am thinking that Joe might have even worked there at one time.

I had forgotten about the restaurant being at that location.

I had also forgotten about Segroves-Daniel-Gordon being at that location, and you have put another puzzle together for me. I could remember "Milk Bar" but I had forgotten that it was actually Earl Locke who was the proprietor.

Somehow or another I had forgotten to associate Ed Glasscock with the Gulf station. I only remembered that it was called "Gulfpride Service Station".

As far as your e-mail from a blogger----Yes, I remember all of those with some variations. I am guessing when they say sock hops at the old country club, they are referring to the American Legion which was once known as the country club. The phrase in the basement near the bowling lanes throws me for a loop. I could use a little refreshing on that one. Yes, I remember the LEMAC club. I was a member in good standing for my five years of high school. I remember all of the rest, especially Swing's store as it was next door to my house, and we grew up together. Race Horse Haynes I remember as Race Horse Haithcoate whose first name was Wayne. I well remember when Red Gibbs was murdered. It was a great loss to our community. Some years before Red was nearly killed when he was on a blood run for the hospital from Nashville to Shelbyville when he was wrecked at Eagleville. I have pleasent memories of all the people who were mentioned, and the places that were mentioned.

-- Posted by leeiii on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 12:16 PM

Just a nod of agreement on a few points. I feel sure that I remember Joe Cartwright working at the Dixie Service Station, along with Ben, not so sure I remember Leslie, but then I wasn't in there just a whole lot. It was a standing joke around town in the mid to late 50's that if you needed a Highway Patrolman in a hurry call Dixie Service Station.

That restaurant had also slipped my mind.

And on the "basement near the bowling lanes", I simply cannot recall such a location, except the Doctors Building across Union St.from the hospital, and that would be rather "tiny' for a dance of any size, I would think.

And Wayne Haithcote was known as "Racehorse". He was a friend of my wife's family, and my father-in-law, who dabbled in a little barber work on the side, used to cut his hair when Wayne was a young boy.

-- Posted by ilikeoldsongs on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 1:44 PM

Back in the day there was just something about Highway Patrolmen and service stations that went together like horses and buggys.

Red stopped by my Dad's station fairly often. One time my Dad told me that Red had told him "If you don't slow that boy down I am going to get him". I do not know if it was true or not but I did look around every corner for a while.

-- Posted by leeiii on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 1:57 PM

There was an identical traffic light in Tracy City as late as the 80's.

-- Posted by Black Swan on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 8:24 PM

LEMAC was the smoking club and was Camel (cigartte) spelled backwards.

-- Posted by Black Swan on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 8:27 PM

Crossville had a similar "Center-of-the-Road" sign which has been preserved on the Court House lawn....Witt Motors was formerly "Hunter Motors"...Sock-Hops were in the basement of the American Legion(Country Club)....

-- Posted by FlaDon on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 8:56 PM

FlaDon, You are exactly right. Now I can remember Hunter Motors. Now I am wondering if Hunter Motors once sold the DeSoto automobile.

Now the sock-hop thing makes sense to me. I can remember having dances upstairs in the main meeting room, but I do not remember ever being in the basement. As a matter of fact I was not aware that there were bowling lanes down there.

-- Posted by leeiii on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 6:39 AM

We are like everyone else, we love the pictures and stories from our past.

However in 1959 the station was owned and operated by Jess Hart (Larry's father) who later became in the early 60's the tax assessor for Bedford County. The station was called Hart's Gulf Pride.

Larry remembers in 1960 a big doctor out of Nashville hit the traffic light in a Britsh Sports car. The traffic light didn't budge an inch, the the sports car folded upon impact.

He also remembers in the mid-60's a slot-car track located behind Alexander's Texaco Station.

-- Posted by theharts on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 6:57 AM

Good blog topic this week. Now I've got to dig through my photos and negatives and find a close view photo that I have of the pole-mounted traffic light.

A few findings while scanning through some directories:

Locke Brothers Restaurant (and milk bar) was located at 636 N. Main in late 40's, early 50's, but in the 1960 phone book Millers Restaurant is listed at that address.

Segroves-Daniel-Gordon was at 637 N. Main. However prior to that the realty firm was housed in the Hotel Dixie building on the north side of the square.

A trivia question: Does anyone remember the huge replica of a pistol that served as a mailbox mount for Tom Segroves when his family lived at 620 Deery St.? I have a picture of it too, somewhere, but I recall it was about 4-feet in length.

The old American Legion building was the country club (and where the sock hops were held in the basement in later years). There is a funny picture of Bain Stewart standing in front of the club with golf knickers on. Almost looks like an old British Open photo.

Thanks for mentioning the 41-A Drive-In theater on the "new" Tullahoma Hwy. My dad was a carpenter and told us kids the story of how he worked on construction of the drive-in screen and that he had to walk along the top, which was pretty high, during building it.

-- Posted by marnold1118 on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 8:12 AM

theharts, That is a good post filled with good information.

I never realized that there was a slot-car track at that location. However, it makes sense and fits the time line. The Hot Wheels craze hit in 1966 and they even produced some motorized vehicles that ran on the regular Hot Wheels track beginning in 1970 with their Sizzler series.

-- Posted by leeiii on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 8:22 AM

The mention of the drive-in by marnold1118 calls to mind a couple of old memories. Does anyone remember driving along the Wartrace Pike, along the portion behind the drive-in, and catching a glimpse of the screen through the trees, when the leaves were off?

But for a real shocker, you had to ride by the Sundown Drive-In Theater on the Pulaski highway, in Columbia, Tn. about 1951, I guess. They actually built the screen facing the highway to start with. My sister and brother-in -law drove me by there on a Saturday night, and as we topped a hill and looked over to the right, there was a cowboy on a horse just a flyin'.

I've often wondered how many accidents, if any, were caused by that snafu before it was corrected.

-- Posted by ilikeoldsongs on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 8:43 AM

This picture cannot go without speaking of the Honorable George Tune. A frinend to anyone that pulled onto his lot, his staff would always see that your needs were attended to. George and Joyce took care of everyone. Many were the times that my family needed to go to Nashville to visit my mom in the hospital and with not enough money for gas he would simply write it down till "things get better". A long time Commissioner on the Bedford County Court, Mrs. Joyce filled the seat at the time of his death and was re-elected several terms. The back room had a huge ring on the ceiling where on a below zero day longtime employee Charles Scales was fixing a flat on a split ring rim and it blew apart. Mr Arch Henslee often worked with the team along with Keith, whom operates his own business today with his dads attitude. Their full service station migrated along North Main Over the years starting in the area of the present post office, then with urban renewal moving to the spot in this picture where O'Rieleys is now. Then later across the road from Ernie Cooks Car Lot on North Main. Those were the days of the handshake meaning more than nice to meet you. And as a youngster growing up in the 60's and 70's once you shook his strong hand you understood its meaning in the fullest.

-- Posted by abner_t on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 9:26 AM

A very nice post, abner_t, about a very nice person, and indeed about a very nice family.

George had a genuiness about him that immediately put one at ease in his presence, and conveyed the feeling that your problem of the moment was of paramount interest, and it's solution a top priority.

The Tune's were among the first folks that I became acquainted with in 1950, when we moved back to Shelbyville to stay, and I have nothing but the highest regards and warm feelings toward them.

By the way, did you ever see George choke a motor down with his bare hands?

-- Posted by ilikeoldsongs on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 10:03 AM

David, as a former resident of Shelbyville for most of my life, I really have enjoyed your column. There is a slight error in the picture report 21. The restaurant was properly identified as Miller's, but they had recently purchased it from the Locke family. The Lockes ran this restaurant for years and they also had restaurants in several other locations around town through the years. The Lockes never did own or run the Milk Bar. John Stone and Bill Blough were the original owners of that establishment.

-- Posted by luckylu on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 10:29 AM

marnold1118, What a great post. You have stirred up more memories which brings me to ask a favor. When you get time would you look in some of your older reference books to see if you can find an address for the Shelbyville Pure Milk Company? The time frame I am talking about would have been somewhere between 1946 and 1950. In the recesses of my feeble mind I have it somewhere around the 637 North Main address that you mentioned. After we get that established I might have more to say about it.

Before Segroves-Daniel-Gordon was in the Dixie Hotel location I can remember it being on the East Side of the square on the second floor above either Simmons Jewelers or Wrights five and dime store. It seems to me that was the time frame when the three combined as partners. I am not sure what they were before that. I think maybe it was Daniel and Gordon with Tom Segroves being a separate business, but I am not sure about that. It could have been any combination but I know that Bill Daniel was an auctioneer.

Yes, I remember Tom's mailbox on Deery Street. Like you I also have a picture of it but it is very small and the resolution is terrible. I think maybe I got it from Roland's Ancestry web site.

abner_t, Thanks for the kind comments about George Tune. He was a dear friend, as was Brooks, and Joyce as well. I am also glad you mentioned Joyce's father Arch Henslee. I think that he started to work for George after Franklin Boyd sold the Chevrolet Dealership to Bill Cannon. I am also glad you mentioned Charles Scales. Those split ring tire rims were man killers on more than one occasion. That is the reason we always turned them over before airing them up. Later someone invented a cage you could place them in just in case they blew apart. I can also remember when Hart Hastings and Brooks Tune worked on their race cars in a small shop building (David, I believe it was behind your Grandfather's station when he was on North Main).

ilikeoldsongs, Yes I am guilty of seeing the Drive-In screen from Wartrace Pike. As a matter of fact I once pulled off on the side of the road to watch a movie, but from my vantage point it did not appear to be a "speakie". Yes, I have seen George choke an engine down. That is the way my Dad used to kill the lawn mower if the little metal piece had broken off that shorted out the spark plug. I never did have the guts to try it though.

-- Posted by leeiii on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 10:56 AM

ilikeoldsongs

Yes, several times. Hanging out there was an education in itself. I also was amazed many times when bus riders would lay over for a different bus how they were made to feel welcome by the conversation and hospitality.

-- Posted by abner_t on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 11:09 AM

leeiii

You mention Brooks Tune and Hart Hastings. Greats men and great engine builders. One of Harts sons still builds engines a few blocks up the road from Keith Tunes shop. If you speak of those two you must remember the old rubber mill. I have watched Brooks climb poles to restore power in the cedars many times before the power company took over the electricty in the mill village area.

-- Posted by abner_t on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 11:24 AM

abner_t, Yes, I remember that Brooks and Hart both worked at the rubber mill along with many others we have mentioned in these blogs about picturing the past including Tom Segroves.

You could almost make a Whos Who in NASCAR history out of the guys who have driven race cars for Hart and Brooks over the years. Names like: Darrell Waltrip, Donnie Allison, Charlie Griffith, Freddie Fryar, and the list goes on and on.

-- Posted by leeiii on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 12:00 PM

Who remembers the third fire truck, when the fire dept. was on the square? It was a Mac, solid tire, chain drive. It was only used when the other two were out on call. I also remember the pistol mail box, as my aunt lived next door to Tom segroves.

-- Posted by jim8377 on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 12:18 PM

jim8377, Yes, I remember the fire truck that we usually refered to as "Old Mac". Just a guess but I am guessing your aunt was named Pauline.

-- Posted by leeiii on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 12:27 PM

Is this the same truck that's been restored and is in its own lighted "display case" garage at the main Shelbyville fire hall?

-- Posted by David Melson on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 1:09 PM

David, I went back and looked at the Shelbyville Fire Department's web site. The picture is cut off a little bit on the right side but it does indeed look like the 1926 "Old Mac".

-- Posted by leeiii on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 1:22 PM

Teen Town was in the basement of the American Legion were the dances were held. There was a jukebox, pool table and a small dance floor. The entrance door was painted green because of a popular song of that era, "Behind the Greendoor."

-- Posted by eyeavol on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 6:22 PM

leeiii my aunts name was Ann Lee Brantley. She was my mothers sister and married to S.K. Brantley .

-- Posted by jim8377 on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 2:20 PM

leeii--Here's what I found about the Shelbyville Pure Milk Company. It was located at 637 N. Main St. in my 1949, 1952, and 1953 sources--the same address that Segroves-Daniel-Gordon had in 1960 (or before). The directory says that John T. Stone and W.H. Blough owned Shelbyville Pure Milk. I thought it interesting that they also were listed as owners of The Milk Bar, next door at 635. Locke Brothers Restaurant was across the street at 636. And, I agree with the blogger who said earlier that Locke Brothers and the Milk Bar were not the same.

Yesterday, someone speculated if Hunter Motors was the dealership for DeSotos. They were not, but instead for Chrysler/Plymouth. I thought it noteworthy that in the yellow pages in 1949 there were 3 Plymouth dealerships: Shelbyville Motor Co. on Madison St. for Desoto-Plymouth; Hunter on N. Main for Chrysler-Plymouth and Yearwood on N. Main for Dodge-Plymouth.

This next bit relates to an blog that's been going on for weeks on "where things were located and when" that David started a few weeks back:

There was a N. Main St. sign in the Sesquicentennial book during the 1948 flood that the "HUD___" could be clearly read. I checked a print I have using a loupe and you can clearly see part of the "O" and the "N", so I'm sure it was a Hudson sign. Furthermore, Carter Arnold Motor Co. was the Hudson dealer, and was located at 615 N. Main in 1949 and then at 611 N. Main in 1952. The photo in the Sesquicentennial book shows the AME church in the foreground of the photo and it was located at 613 N. Main. Those pieces seem to fit perfectly.

Back to the milk company for a minute, here is the list of business on that stretch of N. Main:

--634-Bedford Hoisery

--635-The Milk Bar

--636-Locke Brothers Rest.

--637-Shelbyville Pure Milk Co.

--638-vacant

--639-Hunter Mtrs.

--641-Gulfpride Service Station

--642-Dixie Service Station

For ilikeoldsongs: Dr. R.L. Suggs, the dentist, lived at 1023 N. Main, not 1207.

Regarding Leonard Parsons, in 1952, he was a salesman for Yearwood Motors, but by 1960 he owned Parsons Motors at 417 N. Main and it lists the services as "road service, auto repair, body shop, taxi, and bus station". It was also a Sinclair station as someone had mentioned earlier.

I mentioned Carter Arnold as the Hudson dealer in 1949, but in 1953, the Hudson dealer was Hardison Motors on W. Lane St. A year earlier N.P. and W.H. Hardison owned Hardison Motors at 200 W. Franklin St....and David Enochs ran Dixie Motors in 1952, which was the Studebaker dealership.

I apologize for jumping around between about 4 different blogs, but hope those who had questions will forgive me.

-- Posted by marnold1118 on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 2:30 PM

jim8377, I was thinking of the Redds. I guess they lived on the other side of the Segroves.

-- Posted by leeiii on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 3:18 PM

marnold1118, you are a God send both in memories and research. You have solved another puzzle for me about the Milk Bar and Shelbyville Pure Milk Company. They were indeed in business at the same time at the same general location. I had a visual in the back of my memory (real or imaginary I am not sure) of standing in front of the Milk Company and watching through the front window milk being processed and bottled (much like the soft drink bottling plants). I was thinking that might be the area that was turned into the Milk Bar, but I can see now that they were both there at the same time. John Stone does indeed ring a bell as being connected to the milk plant but the name W. H. Blough escapes me. I wonder if he may have been a silent partner. I also can see now that Earl Locke was not connected to the Milk Bar.

I do not know why I was trying to connect DeSoto to Hunter Motors. I was well aware that Frank Farrar had the DeSoto dealership in 1960.

You mentioned Carter Arnold Motor Company. That name escapes me. Is it possible that was the combination of two last names or was there a person named Carter Arnold.

634 North Main--Bedford Hoisery. I knew that but I had forgotten it.

I do not think that I knew Leonard Parsons when he was at Yearwood. I guess I first knew him after Dad opened the Gulf station beside him on North Main in the mid-'50s.

It seems to me that I have a visual of Dr. Suggs later being on Deery Street but I can not tell you the year.

In my mind I am still trying to put Enochs and Hardison together at some point in time. My Dad's service station was on the corner of North Main and West Lane, and the two buildings behind him on West Lane were Dixie Motors and Eph Carney (or maybe they both occupied the same building at different times) but I can not remember which was which.

Thanks marnold118 for the information. You have gotten the juices flowing again.

-- Posted by leeiii on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 4:05 PM

marnold, thanks a bunch for that address, and let me say on behalf of leeiii and myself, WOW! What a post!

As for the Leonard Parsons situation, the phrase "Parson's Motors" was always in the back of my mind, just not strong enough to really hang my hat on, thanks for that info.

-- Posted by ilikeoldsongs on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 4:08 PM

This is so funny.

When I pulled up Google news on the internet I have certain news areas I follow. For my local town of Shelbyville I found this article.

I have been near Shelbyville all my life. [64 yrs.] Nothing familier here, including looking towards the Square.

This is because my Square, an my Shelbyville are in Indiana.

Nothing says hard working search engine like Google.

What a Hoot.

-- Posted by bigfaceone on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, at 7:30 PM

As for the race car #14, George had a big hand in it also. The county people showed how much he was respected when he passed away. The Tune twins will never be forgotten.

-- Posted by wilma1 on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, at 7:59 PM

Yes wilma1 you are absolutely right that George did have a big hand in it as well, and so did Buck Carroll among others. Those are some good memories.

-- Posted by leeiii on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, at 9:01 PM

Thanks, David....for a million memories about The Main intersection....Having grown up only a few houses away on North Main, I was at this spot every day in the 40's and 50's. All the old-timers will of course remember that this was not originally a four-way intersection. Elm Street came into North Main several yards north of Madison Street. When they decided to join the two streets, it was necessary to tear down the last house in the block on North Main (where the Rebel Maid is located) so the two streets could be joined and that strange traffic light could be put in the middle. The first Rebel Maid was a small walk-up soft-serve window only. I believe it was the first soft serve in Shelbyville....five cents for a regular cone and a dime for a large. The chocolate dip was called a Brown Derby.

I remember the other four corners being the brand new Gulf Pride....the re-located Dixie Motors...and the corner house where the Burke family lived....Oh, and kinda next to the Gulf Pride (on Elm Street) was a residence that was converted to the Church of God where some good shouting occured on a regular basis.

I am really enjoying all this nostalgia stuff!!

-- Posted by steadyeddie on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, at 2:16 PM

steadyeddie, I had forgotten about the Church of God completely. That was before air conditioning and the windows were always open to share the shouting with the world. Thanks for the memory. When you talk about the house being torn down and the strange traffic light being put up in the middle, and Elm street coming into Madison a few yards North, I am drawing a blank. That was probably in the days when the Madison Street Elementary School was the Western border of my still small world. Welcome to the blog. It will be good to have your memories.

-- Posted by leeiii on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, at 5:07 PM

steadyeddie, In the time frame of about 1944 or 1945 I lived on East Lane Street. I remember going out in the back lot and watching the workers pouring concrete to pave Highway 41-A. Is it possible that would have been close to the time Elm Street was made to join Madison Street?

-- Posted by leeiii on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, at 5:54 PM

Yes, leeiii....you have the correct time frame for the joining of Madison and Elm. Those were the years I was walking to Madison Street School every day....walking down N. Main and rounding the Madison St. corner to school with my book satchel in my hand..(no such things as back packs in those days)...Seems like all the kids who lived on East Lane or farther South had to attend East Side School back then....I never knew much about East Side....just that it had those big shiny tubular fire escapes coming out of the second floor. I was sad that I never got to slide down one of those things!

-- Posted by steadyeddie on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, at 6:20 PM

I think all of you all are about right as to when Elm and Madison were joined and the intersection created.

Back in the real old days N. Main Street was called Martin Street and Madison St. was Wallwork Street, and Elm was Elm. It began to be changed about 1920. The 1921 Sanford Map was calling Martin St. North Main and listed both Madison with Wallwork in parenthesis. But the zigzag in the streets was still there until sometime in the 40's...as has been said.

-- Posted by marnold1118 on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, at 10:58 PM

marnold1118....thanks for more interesting North Main history. I never knew about those previous names. Let's play a little more North Main trivia....who can remember the grocery store that preceded Milner's "One Stop Shopping" and what happened to that first store?....And what was the original store across the street that later became Dial's?

-- Posted by steadyeddie on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, at 11:13 PM

steadyeddie, You may already be familiar with it, but if you are not you should check out www.tngenweb.org/bedford/Maps/Shelbyvill... and then magnify the page. It is the Shelbyville map in 1878 and it gives you a good lay of the land and who lived where in 1878. For instance you can see that the Unionville Highway came straight on toward town instead of making a curve at the old Gant's Cleaners as ilikeoldsongs pointed out to me. It is a terrific resource. The map is by D. G. Beers.

As for your questions, I can not remember what was there before Milners, and for some reason or another I am trying to associate Day Brothers with the original Dials. I do not know why.

-- Posted by leeiii on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 7:58 AM

"I am trying to associate Day Brothers with the original Dials. I do not know why."

-- Posted by leeiii on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 7:58 AM

If i'm remembering this right, Wendy Dial ran the meat department for Day Brothers at this location, then bought them out.

-- Posted by ilikeoldsongs on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 9:58 AM

leeiii.....thanks for telling me about that website with the old map....fascinating! All of you are right about Day Brothers being the forerunner of Dial's Market....but before Day Brothers the old frame building in that location was Thompson's Store. Now, in that same time frame across the street prior to Milner's was a grocery owned and operated by Bill Hayes (June's father). The store was demolished in a big explosion that occured in the middle of the night. Then Milner's came along..the biggest store I'd ever seen!

-- Posted by steadyeddie on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 12:12 PM

steadyeddie, Is that the same Thompson that was Donnie Thompson's father. If so, then he later had a store at the corner of Madison and Evans, and Johnny Walker was there after him.

Now that you mention Bill Hayes being at the location before Milners I wonder if that property stayed in the family because later Coke Crowell and Billie (Hayes) Crowell had a business called Jo Boys in a building that connected to Edgemont Market (H. Clay Martin).

ilikeoldsongs, Thanks. I knew that I was keeping that bit of trivia in my memory bank for some reason or another.

-- Posted by leeiii on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 12:28 PM

leeiii....the connection to Donnie Thompson kinda rings a bell...but I just can't remember the Madison and Evans location....And I just cannot place a business owned by Coke and Billie. What kind of business was Jo Boys? That was probably after I left Shelbyville....But I DO remember how well Coke played basketball....and how well Billie could dance and sing.

-- Posted by steadyeddie on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 1:46 PM

steadyeddie, Thompson's would be on the North East corner. Mr. and Mrs. Thompson lived in the corner house that occupied the other part of the lot. Donnie had a TV repair shop behind the store that fronted Evans Street.

Coke and Billie had a hamburger joint that was in the part of the building that looked like a two window Dairy Dip. I remember it most for their Al's Barbecue. It was all part of the building that housed H. Clay Martin's quick stop market. Coke just died in the past few months.

-- Posted by leeiii on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 2:26 PM

leeiii....I believe I must have moved away a little too early to remember some of this. I only go up to the mid 50's. I've been looking at your old map once again and can't get over the street names....not only did North Main and Madison have different names, but did you see what they called Main Street?...it ran across the North Side of the Square like an extension of Holland Street today. Wish I could frame this piece of art!

-- Posted by steadyeddie on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 8:05 PM

steadyeddie, I have a full-sized copy of the whole map, but it is way to big for me to frame and hang. I just have to get it out and unroll it when I want to look at it. I have learned to just use the one on the internet and scroll over to what I want to look at. I was not aware that you were not still in Shelbyville until today when you mentioned that you left Shelbyville before Coke and Billie opened Jo Boys on North Main.

-- Posted by leeiii on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 8:43 PM

leeiii.....Hold on to that map! Does S'ville have anything like a library or museum where something like that could be displayed?...(Or are we the only ones left who are half way interested?) Everybody now is in cyberspace!

-- Posted by steadyeddie on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 9:37 PM

"leeiii.....Hold on to that map"

Posted by steadyeddie on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 9:37 PM

I first saw the Beers Map about 20 years ago, on a wall in the Bedford County Register of Deeds office in the coutrhouse. But that office moved into the basement of the US Bank building (Dixie Hotel location) several years ago, and I don't know if they have it on display now.

We have been trying to get the ducks all lined up in a row for quite some time now to be able to build a new, larger library. If the present library acquired any more goodies, they might have to ask leeiii to store a few things in his pockets for them. Not saying they're crowded, mind you.

-- Posted by ilikeoldsongs on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 10:51 PM

Thanks, ilikeoldsongs....where is the Shelbyville library located......and how long has one existed?

-- Posted by steadyeddie on Tue, Aug 18, 2009, at 12:11 AM

LOL ilikeoldsongs. Now that you mention it though I might be interested in storing some items of my selection.

steadyeddie, The present day library is in the old post office building on South Main. The first library that I can remember was in the basement of the court house.

David, these blogs have created some good advertising for the use of the Shelbyville Library.

-- Posted by leeiii on Tue, Aug 18, 2009, at 6:50 AM

The Chamber of Commerce site has a wealth of information related to Shelbyville and Bedford county, which I think would appeal to those who have been away from here for awhile. Shucks, it even appeals to me, and I've been here for nearly 60 years.

www.shelbyvilletn.com

Click the above link, then click on Shelbyville Chamber of Commerce. On the bottom right side of the home page click on "links", and enjoy. Don't get carried away by all that information and forget to come back here and post, though.

-- Posted by ilikeoldsongs on Tue, Aug 18, 2009, at 7:18 AM

Thanks a million......I'll be back.

-- Posted by steadyeddie on Tue, Aug 18, 2009, at 7:59 AM


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