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Conquer, dominate, and never agree

Posted Friday, April 9, 2010, at 1:57 PM

Newt GIngrich, speaking to the Southern Republican Leadership Conference on Thursday night:

"When we win control" (think so, Newt?) "of the House and Senate this fall, Stage One of the end of Obamaism will be a new Republican Congress in January that simply refuses to fund any of the radical efforts.

"We (will) be prepared to commit that a Republican President and a Republican Congress in February and March of 2013 will repeal every radical bill passed by this machine."

So if Newt Gingrich gets what he wants, then apparently we simply exchange one "machine" for another.

Usual GOP talk: The folks who proclaim Democrats promote "socialism" and "communism" sound as if they'd be just as happy as their own dictatorship -- an "our way is the only way" attitude. Yep, I know some Democrats on the other side are just as bad.

Two political parties and a gap as wide as the Mississippi River. Think there's any chance for cohesiveness in America anymore?


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I really like to point out the obvious bias you have, David, and how big of a communist sympathizer you actually are, but you'll just delete my post like you always seem to do when I get to close to the truth. Like they always say, shine a light on a rat and he'll run for cover every time.

-- Posted by BobBobBob on Wed, May 5, 2010, at 1:07 AM

Not yet on this blog...but he is :)

-- Posted by Thom on Fri, Apr 16, 2010, at 1:11 PM

When it is said that health care is a right, then what about the rights of the doctors. they spend six to eight years in school, if not longer, to become a doctor and the government is going to dictate to them how and for how much they are going to charge for a service that he is providing. Why are we saying that the government has the right to tell someone how to run a private business? It's a persons right to expect to be given a service for free, or to be paid for by all the tax payers. Where dose it say in the constitution that one person's right should be abolished to create a new right for another.

You know that every person has a right to be represented in a court of Law, then why has the government not dictated to the court lawyers how much they can charge for the services. I think it may be because that the lawyers are the ones creating the laws.

What's next is the government going to step in and pass legislation that will tell the supermarkets how much they can charge for food. We already give people tax dollars to buy food, regulating prices is a logical next step by this line of thinking.

I don't think swapping one villain for another in November is going to help anything. But I do think that a slightly more even split could force some people in Washington to actually think about what they are doing and in what direction they are driving the nation. Ms. Nancy her self stated that "we have to pass the bill before we can know what's in it". Well just with in the past few days they (the congress) have found that they could possibly loose their posh health care coverage, and not in 2014 when the main portion of the bill takes affect but since it has been signed. Now let's see if they change the bill to keep their Cadillac health care plan. If they do then I don't think we can even imagine the hell that will come down on Washington between now and November. I guess we will just have to wait and see what they will do in all of their wisdom, because according to them they are the only ones that possess any.

Attached is a link to the "Liberal" New York Times, with an article about congress and their own health care dilemma.

www.nytimes.com/2010/04/13/us/politics/1...

-- Posted by docudrama on Tue, Apr 13, 2010, at 9:19 PM

Both Parties have plenty of blame to share. I would place the majority in the DEMs plate simply because they have had control of the government for more of the past century than the GOP. It is little consolation to know who made the biggest hole in the boat while we are all sinking in the same ship(debt).

-- Posted by Liveforlight on Mon, Apr 12, 2010, at 1:51 PM

I loved this statement because it is exactly true. We spend so much time and energy laying blame on this party or that party that we fail to see the fact that our country is sinking in debt and division and soon we will not be able to climb back out. I blame both political parties but I tend to criticize the Democratic Party more lately because I actually expected more out of them but they seem more content in digging that hole faster than the Republicans.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Tue, Apr 13, 2010, at 9:17 AM

to be honest, the most appealing beginning of a political movement (to me) has been what was stated by the core group who began the "tea party". (heck, i still like what they had to say). unfortunately, as soon as they spread their umbrella it seemed like every nutcase and fruitcake within hailing distance came running to take shelter under it, and their original message was drowned out by the screamers and lunatics with all the same old extremist crap.

I agree Lazarus! It does SEEM that way, particularly when listening to CNN.

I have been to the Tea Party rallys and saw no such actions. More media biase?

What I hear more and more is that some people think healthcare is a right. I don't believe it is. I think it is an individual responsiblity like food and shelter.

Perhaps if Obama had approached this from that perspective first, Amended the Constitution to state that healthcare is a right, then we could be united in it.

Instead, all we see is more of the same arm twisting politics and deficit spending. The accelerated rate is startling. Will the GOP do any better? Probably not!

I do think that the "Contract with America" campaign the GOP had under Clinton was effective and cut a lot of wasteful spending/taxation.

Both Parties have plenty of blame to share. I would place the majority in the DEMs plate simply because they have had control of the government for more of the past century than the GOP. It is little consolation to know who made the biggest hole in the boat while we are all sinking in the same ship(debt).

Obama, if serving even eight yrs, will most likely be long gone before the bill comes due. We can't keep passing these types of deficit spending entitlements down to our children without expecting the bill to come due one day.

Who will be bailing U.S. out?

-- Posted by Liveforlight on Mon, Apr 12, 2010, at 1:51 PM

"Two political parties and a gap as wide as the Mississippi River. Think there's any chance for cohesiveness in America anymore?"

i like to think of the current situation in washington as 60% of congress representing the democratic party, 40% representing the republican party, and 0% representing the american people. why get excited about the next election if the best that can happen is we reverse the 60 and the 40, while the people still get stuck with 0? altho i am sure this thread will soon become clogged with the same old crap from the same handful of people (you know, if you say the same thing often enough and loudly enough it will become the truth and 5% of the people will become a majority) i believe that most of america is just thoroughly sick of this nonsense from both parties and their few rabid supporters. we are ripe for someone to plot a moderate course that answers to the desires of the silent majority. i think that was clear during the last election, and i think there are some real questions as to how the next election is going to go. while the few and the loud are pretty well convinced that their volume has been sufficient to convince the nation that they are right, i myself would probably vote for obama tomorrow not for anything he has done, but because of the sheer ridiculousness of the accusations against him. frankly, i do not want the nation run by officials whose main constituency is people who seem to be mentally unbalanced.

to be honest, the most appealing beginning of a political movement (to me) has been what was stated by the core group who began the "tea party". (heck, i still like what they had to say). unfortunately, as soon as they spread their umbrella it seemed like every nutcase and fruitcake within hailing distance came running to take shelter under it, and their original message was drowned out by the screamers and lunatics with all the same old extremist crap.

so, to answer your question, i think america could be united. i think there is a silent majority just waiting for the opportunity to vote for someone with some sense. but i do not see that person in either major party at this time. obama is still a possibility. because no matter how loudly the screamers keep proclaiming that the sky is either going to fall, or has already fallen, it is difficult not to notice that the sky is still in place, and most of their claims keep turning out to be total fiction. backlash from that is not beyond the realm of possibility.

-- Posted by lazarus on Sat, Apr 10, 2010, at 6:42 PM

So what Newt is saying is he wants to shut down the country like he did before. How soon some forget the last 8 years

-- Posted by lets be real

Shutting the country down was clinton's protest response to a republican controlled congress trying to implement welfare reform and cutting other government bloat.

It was exactly this type of bloat cutting that was responsible for the deficit reduction that happened under clinton.

FWIW- the economy didn't tank during bush's presidency until the democrats took control of congress.

Remember, congress writes the budgets-not the president.

-- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Apr 10, 2010, at 5:27 PM

I am not a Newt fan, but where is this country now?? How many trillions has been used in bail-outs?? But, still, where are the jobs? Why do we keep handing out to foreign countries when our own people are in need? Why do we continue to hand out to illegals who come here for a free hand-out from our welfare system in the form of health care, food stamps, housing, and on and on? Obama wants change, but thus far we have seen little improvement in what has been the foundation of this country for generations - a profitable nation with industry, jobs in abundance, and the ability to live comfortable. He continues to ridicule this country to other countries; he can't answer point blank questions, especially regarding his heritage; he was asked if he would buy into his own health plan -- no defining answer, just lots of side-stepping.

-- Posted by ILoveRoses on Sat, Apr 10, 2010, at 3:02 PM

It's really easy for people to blame Bush for everything that happened during his administration. Even though the Democrats controlled Congress for the last two years of his administration. I'll be really interested to see if they hold Obama accountable for anything a Republican controlled Congress does. Probably not because then they would be labeled racists.

-- Posted by Thom on Sat, Apr 10, 2010, at 1:17 PM

So what Newt is saying is he wants to shut down the country like he did before. How soon some forget the last 8 years

-- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Apr 10, 2010, at 11:21 AM

Uh Oh?

-- Posted by garhawk on Sat, Apr 10, 2010, at 7:28 AM

Upset over Newt's words, yet I haven't read one blog from you, David, deriding the very same strategy from the current administration...

A little liberal bias???

-- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Apr 10, 2010, at 3:57 AM

It seems like Washington seems to work much better when one party controls the Hill and the other is sitting in the White House. As much as I wish the parties didn't even exist, that seems to be the case. I think the main reason that it works better that way goes back to the founding fathers' idea of separation of powers. Since President Obama took office, Congress has had the tap wide open for anything that they wanted to push through. It would be great to have a conservative Congress for the second two years of the Obama administration to see if these folks truly can work together. That would also allow for true representation of everyone.

It's very scary to think that we are one heart attack away from having liberals in control of the Hill, the White House, and the Supreme Court.

-- Posted by Thom on Fri, Apr 9, 2010, at 6:26 PM

Just what about the current administration is so great. I ran as a democrat. My parents were Jimmy Cater demorats. But how do you expect the country to support eveyone who simply will not work. I see no issue in assisting all that cannot help themselves or are in dire need. But Really Obama makes newt look like a good choice for a former Democrat like myself

-- Posted by outonthefarm on Fri, Apr 9, 2010, at 5:40 PM

Amen David,Newt and Rush are both idiotic trouble makers. Lets give it a chance.Look what we have had the previous 8 years

-- Posted by vandy6 on Fri, Apr 9, 2010, at 5:14 PM


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David Melson is a copy editor and staff writer for the Times-Gazette.