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Politicial ads often aren't what they seem

Posted Monday, October 25, 2010, at 9:52 AM

As creepy as a haunted house and as irritating as screams in the night...they're political attack ads, and they're everywhere on your TV.

And most contain stretched truths or outright lies.

"There is absolutely no consumer protection whatsoever when it comes to political ads," Brooks Jackson, founder of FactCheck.org, told Bill Krueger of Poynter Online, a journalism-oriented website. "They have the legal right to lie to you."

Good food for thought. And we're supposed to trust these politicians, even if they (or, in behalf of them with "non-approved" messages, their parties) mislead or deceive us?

Read Krueger's blog on interpreting campaign ads here.


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One thing that I've always wondered is this:

If a politician makes a campaign promise in a state that recognizes verbal contracts, can they then be sued for breach of contract when they fail to deliver on their promise? Not that any politicians do this, just pondering the rhetorical, I suppose.

-- Posted by Thom on Mon, Oct 25, 2010, at 3:13 PM

Anyone who believes any politician is an idiot.

Remember these?

Hope and Change?

I did not have sexual relations with that woman?

Read my lips, no new taxes?

I am not a crook?

As for me I will assume all they say are lies, and if one tells the truth, it's like a bonus.

-- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Oct 25, 2010, at 7:28 PM

Is it me or are the attack ads worse this year than ever? I have seen some pretty low blows on a couple of commercials, its pretty childish. Those particular candidates will not be getting my vote.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 7:25 AM

Who needs political ads when you have the Shelbyville city council . . . their behavior has been beyond juvenile and represents the city of Shelbyville in an extremely bad way. Why do we continue to elect these individuals in office?

-- Posted by jaxspike on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 8:19 AM

Interesting idea about verbal contracts. I think they should also be held accountable for their ads. "Truth in advertising"?

Not wanting to sound like Forest Gump but my mother used to say, when someone starts yelling in a conversation it is probably because they don't have any real basis for their position.

It could just be their passion gets the best of them but "mudslinging" cheapens the candidate in my eyes. I have seen very few positive ads on one side of the governor's race and nothing but positive on the other. I hope that does not change from the positive side

-- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 9:12 AM

It is a terrible injustice to the voter when the only choice available is the lesser of two evils.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 11:06 AM

Those ads are usually placed by another non-profit that doesn't have to disclose who has given them money. Really convenient.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 11:10 AM

Another bad thing is that many of the political ads on T.V. are bought and paid for by corporate lobbyists and special interest groups. They can lie, or say anything they want to and not be held accountable for it because they are not required to disclose who financed these ads to the viewers.

President Obama and the Democrats in Congress brought forth a campaign finance bill that would require the sponsers of these ads to let the people know just who is funding them. It would also prohibit political spending by foreign-controlled coporations and government contractors. This way if a Politican is being financed, or attacked by one of these groups, the citizens would be able to know who is behind it. Of course the "do nothing" and "party of NO" Republicans used one of their record number of filibusters to stop this legislation also.

This shows the difference in Democrats, who believe voters should be in control of our elections - and Republicans, who want to allow big corporations to buy their outcomes behind closed doors.

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 11:45 AM

This shows the difference in Democrats, who believe voters should be in control of our elections - and Republicans, who want to allow big corporations to buy their outcomes behind closed doors.

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 11:45 AM

That is by far the funniest thing ive heard all day.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 12:49 PM

I guess you can explain then why Republican Senate Minority leader and human-turtle hybrid Mitch McConnell, and his other Republican cohorts have fought so hard to stop this legislation?

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 1:44 PM

Which party is wholeheartedly against requiring voters to show valid I.D. to prove their identity?

Which party had millions donated to their presidential candidate through untraceable gift cards?

Which party was supported by ACORN, who registered thousands of dead voters?

-- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 2:41 PM

Dead voters, even if registered, can't vote because they're....dead. Kinda hard for them to show up at the voting booth and effect an election in any way.

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 5:02 PM

Unless they sent in absentee ballots.

-- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 5:47 PM

"Dead voters, even if registered, can't vote because they're....dead. Kinda hard for them to show up at the voting booth and effect an election in any way."

Well, considering that the Dems fight tooth and nail against any law requiring photo ID at the poll to vote, and there are MILLIONS of dead registered voters in this country, it is REALLY easy to just show up at the poll and tell someone you're not who you really are. Of course the Democrats would NEVER do that, would they? If you truly believe that, then you're most likely more naive than anyone I've ever met. Don't get me wrong, I don't put it past the Republicans either, but the Democrat candidates have traditionally had a loyal constituency from beyond the grave.

-- Posted by Thom on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 6:05 PM

I love how the Democrats in their white robes and halos, have absolutely no big corporations helping their campaigns. OH if only I could be a saintly democrat, lol....I think both parties are equally to blame for any kind of corruption.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 6:08 PM

I love how the Democrats in their white robes and halos, have absolutely no big corporations helping their campaigns. OH if only I could be a saintly democrat, lol....I think both parties are equally to blame for any kind of corruption.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 6:08 PM

More opportunity for voter fraud from that democrat stronghold, California.

http://www.examiner.com/immigration-refo...

-- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 7:22 PM

Be real honest here and forget about the little D or R beside any politician's name and recall just one that you feel was or is currently trustworthy? It's a sad day when corruption, dishonesty and immoral character are acceptable and completely overlooked in the voting booth by supporters of BOTH parties.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Wed, Oct 27, 2010, at 10:06 AM

Tim three that come to mind are:

Ron Paul

J.C. Watts

Alan Keyes

-- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Oct 27, 2010, at 6:08 PM

Ahh so do tell who can say who the dead folks have voted for? And whose to say that it wasn't repubs that sent in the absentee votes.........Just more mud slinging and manipulations, childish stupid games to distract people from the issues. Head games and lies......As if there is not enough voter fraud to go around on both sides, just because the right claims to be the Moral Majority does not make it so, and just because they claim the left is all crooks does not make that so either. Anyone who thinks either claim is the end all of facts is just plain stupid.

-- Posted by wonderwhy on Wed, Oct 27, 2010, at 10:22 PM

wonderwhy,

We need to have a Rally to Restore Sanity.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Thu, Oct 28, 2010, at 12:14 AM

Quietmike: I really don't know much about Ron Paul, so I can't truthfully form an opinion. However from the research I've done on both J.C. Watts and Alan Kyes, I'd have to agree that Mr. Watts and Mr. Keyes appear to be both honorable and trustworthy. Mr. Watts is often referred to as one of the most intelligent men in our country. I would also throw my support behind Mr. Colin Powell should he ever seek higher office. I believe he would have made a fine President with the indespensable qualities of honesty, integrity and dedication to country.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Thu, Oct 28, 2010, at 12:22 AM

Quietmike: I really don't know much about Ron Paul, so I can't truthfully form an opinion. However from the research I've done on both J.C. Watts and Alan Kyes, I'd have to agree that Mr. Watts and Mr. Keyes appear to be both honorable and trustworthy. Mr. Watts is often referred to as one of the most intelligent men in our country. I would also throw my support behind Mr. Colin Powell should he ever seek higher office. I believe he would have made a fine President with the indespensable qualities of honesty, integrity and dedication to country.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Thu, Oct 28, 2010, at 12:24 AM

In Nevada the polling machines are automatically voting for Harry Reid when people wanted to vote for Sharron Angle.

"In fact, although over 160,000 people have voted early in Clark County, those allegations that have been made have gone directly to the media as opposed to election board officers," Larry Lomax said.

Perhaps they thought that the election board officers might be in on the fraud? After all, Clark County's commissioner who oversees such problem is none other than Rory Reid, the proud son of Senate Majority leader Harry Reid.

By the way, as others have noted, according to page 74 of their labor contract with Clarke County (a pdf file), the SEIU just happen to represent the technicians who maintain these voting machines. Indeed, the SEIU represents many of the bureaucrats who work for Clark County.

So what could possibly go wrong? It's not like they have a horse in this race.

Their new slogan should be "YOU VOTE, WE DECIDE"

The only thing the Democrats can do now is cheat at the voting booths and try to make their constituent look bad in TV ads,to make you forget everything they have been doing for the last 2 years.

-- Posted by bellbuckletn on Thu, Oct 28, 2010, at 8:46 AM

Since Republicans want voters to show id when voting and dems fight it tooth and nail, you have to ask why they would be opposed unless it was to help hide their shennanigans.

-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Oct 28, 2010, at 12:50 PM

The mud slinging is just further explanation of why nothing seems to be wholeheartedly accomplished in Congress.

Isn't it ironic that these big businesses don't want to invest in human capital, in the forms of job creation, yet they throw hundreds of millions behind candidates who they hope will cut their non-existent real tax rate into negative territory, weaken protection, safety and other government regulations, and do their bidding on Capitol Hill...

Ask the billionaire Koch brothers, who fund the TEA party and other "grassroots" groups, exactly why the use fear rather than sanity to motivate their electorate. Even groups such as the TEA party are bought and paid for, and those who consider themselves members are foolish enough to believe otherwise.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Oct 28, 2010, at 7:14 PM

Ask the billionaire Koch brothers, who fund the TEA party and other "grassroots" groups, exactly why the use fear rather than sanity to motivate their electorate.

-- Posted by darrick_04

This is different from George Soros funding the democrats, how?

-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Oct 28, 2010, at 7:27 PM

I don't know how any Republican can talk of voter fraud and keep a straight face after the massive fraud and debacle that took place in Florida in the 2000 election. Katherine Harris, little brother Jeb Bush, John Ashcroft, and The Supreme Court flat out stole that election and APPOINTED George Bush President.

But then again, anyone who could list the certifiably insane Alan Keyes as a politican that they would trust making any important decisions as an elected public official, is pretty amazing also. Just watch some of his crazy rants on youtube. This is a hero of The Republican Party and the Tea Party movement? That's scary. Funny....but, scary.

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Thu, Oct 28, 2010, at 7:33 PM

You're right, we should have had that nut-case that was raised in D.C., Al Gore, for President. He would have made things MUCH better. This idiot's still spouting off about his "global warming" myth with tainted...sorry, MANIPULATED data. He tells everyone how to live "greener" when he's got his multiple mansions, flies around in a jet to spread HIS version of global warming, and rides in a caravan of SUVs from the airport to his speaking engagements. He's just waiting to cash in his chips on cap and trade, when the Chicago Carbon Exchange will be worth billions upon billions. Hate to break it to ol' Al, but that ain't ever gonna happen.

If you're misinformed on how elections work, you should do some research. Hint: they're not elected directly by the people.

-- Posted by Thom on Fri, Oct 29, 2010, at 12:02 AM

OH no not man-bear-pig!!!

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Fri, Oct 29, 2010, at 7:26 AM

They do this to get the un-educated persons vote. This is a shame I will not vote for a person that does this. this is a person that will sell their sole for a vote and anything else. They could all take a lesson from a good man,(Jim Cooper} Look at his adds They are the plain honest truth. WE NEED MORE LIKE HIM I KNOW HE IS TELLING THE TRUTH AND I BET YOU CAN'T FIND A PERSON IN THIS TOWN THAT WILL NOT TELL YOU THIS IS THE TRUTH. WE CAN ALL TAKE A LESSON FROM HIM

-- Posted by gary ashley on Fri, Oct 29, 2010, at 10:17 AM

If you're misinformed on how elections work, you should do some research. Hint: they're not elected directly by the people.

-- Posted by Thom on Fri, Oct 29, 2010, at 12:02 AM

I will have to agree with you there Thom. If we only counted the actual votes of the people, Al Gore would have been President, since he had over a half million more votes. Bush lost the popular vote.

As for the global warming "myth". Why do Republicans always point to Al Gore as thier only source on this subject? Almost every scientific organization, (including The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, The World Meteorological Organization, The United Nations Environmental Program, and The National Academy of Sciences, just to name a few)have concluded that global warming is real, and that greenhouse gases caused by human activities are causing our climate to change.

The only people that think global warming is a "myth" are the gullible, misguided Republicans that believe everything they hear on talk radio and Fox News.

I think I will believe the scientists and meteorologists on this subject, rather than take the word of someone like Sean Hannity or some Fox News "expert",(who also happens to work for the petroleum industry)

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Fri, Oct 29, 2010, at 10:28 AM

"OH no not man-bear-pig!!!

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Fri, Oct 29, 2010, at 7:26 AM"

Serially?

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Oct 29, 2010, at 2:54 PM

Regarding Global Warming. Yes it is happening, Yes it is noticeable and Yes it is doing damage to the eco-system. But I believe it is due to more than just greenhouse gases. There is a combination of other factors that is causing our planet to be warming more than the other planets in our solar system. Greenhouse gases ARE contributing, but are NOT the definitive answer.

Disclaimer: I do not work for Fox News, nor do I watch it and sadly, I don't work for the petroleum industry. I get my news from the only trusted news source on TV and it ain't CNN or MSNBC.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Oct 29, 2010, at 3:01 PM

i am super serial

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Fri, Oct 29, 2010, at 4:32 PM

As for the global warming "myth". Why do Republicans always point to Al Gore as thier only source on this subject?

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine

The second law of thermodynamics and Henry's law are other sources if you're interested.

-- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Oct 29, 2010, at 6:01 PM

http://www.oism.org/pproject/

Over 31,000 American scientists disagree with Mr. Gore and his myth. The reason everyone points to that nimrod is because he has made MILLIONS, if not a billion already, spouting his lies.

-- Posted by Thom on Fri, Oct 29, 2010, at 7:53 PM

Sorry Thom, but both of your claims are false. The link that you gave has been proven to be a fraud. The so-called "Oregon Petition" was organized by Fred Seitz and Noah(Art) Robinson.

The petition and the documents included were all made to look like official papers from the prestigious National Academy of Science. They weren't, and this attempt to mislead has been well-documented.

The petition was so misleading that the National Academy issued a news release stating:

"The petition project was a deliberate attempt to mislead scientists and to rally them in an attempt to undermine support for the Kyoto Protocol. The petition was not based on a review of the science of global climate change, nor were its signers experts in the field of climate science."

Robinson admitted that "only 2,100 signers of the Oregon Petition had identified themselves as physicists, geophysicists, climatologists, or meteorologists."

Robinson is "a physical chemist" who "acknowledges he has done no direct research into global warming."

Robinson "acknowledged that little attempt was done to verify credentials of those who responded" to the petition, and though the names of the signatories are listed on the OISM website, many of the entries lack academic credentials, none lists a city of residence, and none lists an academic institution with which the signer is affiliated.

Several environmental groups questioned dozens of the names: "Perry S. Mason" (the fictitious lawyer?), "Michael J. Fox" (the actor?), "Robert C. Byrd" (the senator?), "John C. Grisham" (the lawyer-author?). And then there's the Spice Girl, a.k.a. Geraldine Halliwel.

A May 1, 1998, AP article reported that the petition also bore the signatures of "Drs. '[Maj.] Frank Burns' '[Capt. B.J.] Honeycutt*' and '[Capt. Benjamin Franklin "Hawkeye"]Pierce'" -- three characters from the hit sitcom M*A*S*H.

As for Al Gore, he donates all of the proceeds from both the book and DVD of An Inconvenient Truth to environmental causes. He also donated 100% of his Nobel Peace Prize award as well as the salary from his venture capital firm, Kleiner Perkins Caulfield & Byers, to the Alliance for Climate Protection.

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Sat, Oct 30, 2010, at 10:55 AM

As for Al Gore, he donates all of the proceeds from both the book and DVD of An Inconvenient Truth to environmental causes. He also donated 100% of his Nobel Peace Prize award as well as the salary from his venture capital firm, Kleiner Perkins Caulfield & Byers, to the Alliance for Climate Protection.

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine

Since algore is the chairman of the board for the Alliance for Climate Protection, it doesn't mean much that he donates money to them, does it?

http://www.climateprotect.org/about/boar...

Kinda like donating money from my wallet to my shirt pocket.

-- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Oct 30, 2010, at 1:12 PM

The Alliance for Climate Protection is a nonprofit organization that pays him no income.

Unlike Dick Cheney and Halliburton.

-- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Sun, Oct 31, 2010, at 2:13 PM

When Gore left the White House he listed his assets at less than $2 million. If he is doing his global warming, climate change....global climate disruption bit for altruistic reasons, how can he afford a $35 million investment in his buddy's company, just a few years later?

http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/al-gor...

-- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Oct 31, 2010, at 5:06 PM

I say better safe than sorry -----If global warming is real and we ignore it we lose our planet, if is not real but we do act like is we at the very worst will have a cleaner safer environment to pass on to our children......I would rather act upon it, and not ruin it. God has given us a wonderful world, we should do our best to respect and care for her to the best of our ability and avoid things we have knowledge can harm her (oil spills are a good example). As a christian, I am amazed at how easily some are willing to destroy the planet God has entrusted to us, a blessing, as a sacrifice to greed. As His stewards we should be trying to care for his bounty not abuse it. Recycle, conserve and preserve..................

-- Posted by wonderwhy on Sun, Oct 31, 2010, at 11:34 PM

One difference is the MSM's treatment of those who disagree with algore.

For example-Last month a renowned physicist resigned his position with the American Physical Society after 67 years over the global warming scam, yet where is the coverage?

http://thegwpf.org/ipcc-news/1670-hal-le...

-- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Nov 2, 2010, at 5:54 PM

wonderwhy makes a good point I think.

God did make a wonderful EARTH. The WORLD though, not so much, that is our doing.

Christ said if you live like him the WORLD would hate you.

We should take care of the EARTH, not because of Al Gore or science, but because it belongs to God.,not us.

The first step is to accept God and HIS teachings.

Al Gore does not live by his own teachings. Therefore, it would seem to me that where there is no conviction of the truth by the one speaking, there is no truth being spoken.

-- Posted by Liveforlight on Wed, Nov 3, 2010, at 6:22 PM


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