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Downtown committee should be inclusive

Posted Wednesday, October 31, 2012, at 10:32 AM

Shelbyville's two downtown groups -- one, actually is called "uptown" -- may be about to lose an available state grant due to squabbling.

Both groups need to work together.

A proposal has been made that the downtown issue should be studied by "a citizens committee of 12 to 15 people made up of property owners, merchants, financial institutions, professionals in real estate, and community leaders, as well as local government representatives," according to a story in the Wednesday, Oct. 31 T-G.

There you go. We'll end up with the same closed group who seems to want to run everything.

You shouldn't have to be a business owner or manager, banker, real estate broker or government official to be in a position to help make decisions. The unspoken message is that only people who have money and certain jobs should have power.

Broaden that committee to include others' perspectives. Everyone deserves a voice.


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"Everyone deserves a voice" that is becoming an evil statement to many in this country anymore, and after next Tuesday may not even be a dream available to to those who are not high enough on the financial food chain anymore. The Gop wants to silence those whom they do not think are "worthy" of their stature in the country. GET OUT AND VOTE and before you do remember WHO is out for the people and WHO is NOT...... Our future depends on it. WHen you hear a political accusation - follow the trail and find out where it started and what the motivation is and IS IT FACTUAL !!! Things like the recent LIES about Jeep being sent to CHina shows how low some will go just to win. DO not throw your vote away just because someone told you to vote one way or the other FACT CHECK FOR YOURSELF ____ DO NOT LET THEM MANIPULATE YOU WITH THEIR LIES......

-- Posted by jstus on Wed, Oct 31, 2012, at 10:35 AM

David, who would you suggest to be on the committee? I wish you were more specific as to what group of people needs to be included.

-- Posted by bbbluebird on Wed, Oct 31, 2012, at 11:21 AM

Simply people in the community in general as opposed to, as I said above, those considered prominent. Wasn't thinking of any specific person or persons.

-- Posted by David Melson on Wed, Oct 31, 2012, at 2:37 PM

Are there stipulations in the grant that identifies exactly how the money should be used or is it awarded as a lump sum and the "community" decides?

Here is the quote in the T-G article, the grant is a "competitive community improvement program for communities seeking to revitalize traditional commercial districts."

It is open to communities with downtown commercial districts established at least 50 years ago "and whose citizens are ready to organize efforts for downtown revitalization."

Based on this it sounds as if the correct persons (property owners, merchants, financial institutions, professionals in real estate, and community leaders, as well as local government representatives,) are the correct folks to make the decisions.

I might have an opinion, but I do not fall in that group so I would not expect to be included. The only vague area is who determines a "community leader"?

ALL the merchants and property owners should have a right to be part of the committee, so a defined number might be that group, banks who have investments or loans on these properties, plus 1 or 2 from each of the other groups.

To do that, the Downtown or Uptown needs to be defined. Is it just those facing the Square, one street over (all the way around) or.....what?

Just curious.

-- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Oct 31, 2012, at 2:48 PM

Based on this it sounds as if the correct persons (property owners, merchants, financial institutions, professionals in real estate, and community leaders, as well as local government representatives,) are the correct folks to make the decisions.

-- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Oct 31, 2012, at 2:48 PM

The problem with this statement is that these individuals so far really really have not moved Shelbyville forward and these same individuals are the ones who always seem to want to stifle growth in this town to protect their own interests. I agree with David, more people from the community need to be involved because the community as a whole are the ones who determine if something is successful or not by spending their hard earned money in the shops and businesses in this area so why shouldn't they have a say in what they would like to be offered and the direction of the city. Why should the same old select few always make the decision when the history of their actions have proven they have no desire or ability to progress this town.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Wed, Oct 31, 2012, at 10:33 PM

You think the merchants do not want to see more life brought back to the area, the property owners do not want their value increased, the banks do not want their loans paid off and the real estate folks want the properties they represent to go down in value and be harder to sell?

You may be referring to some of the town leaders and maybe even community leaders who might want things to be status quo, but the other folks? One person insane I could understand but all these groups?

-- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Nov 1, 2012, at 8:05 AM

Townspeople should have their say, just as I get to voice my opinion, but the decisions should be made by folks "on the ground" in the affected area, which I think should be defined.

The government still needs to be on the committee to keep things grounded in reality. I have seen many suggestions come up in town meetings that are not achievable because of city or state laws, etc., and after all, THEY are supposed to represent the "people".

-- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Nov 1, 2012, at 8:10 AM

Like Al Pacino said in the movie Scarface."First comes the money then comes the power"

-- Posted by mytaxesaremine on Thu, Nov 1, 2012, at 3:31 PM


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David Melson is a copy editor and staff writer for the Times-Gazette.