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Picturing the Past 170: Eating at the Scotsman

Posted Wednesday, November 28, 2012, at 3:15 PM

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The Scotsman restaurant in May 1978. (T-G file photo)
For most of the 1970s, cheap but good eats could be found at the Scotsman restaurant,on Madison Street where Rafael's is today.

Here's the inside of the Scotsman as it looked in May 1978 at, according to the clock on the wall, approximately 4:22 one afternoon. Recognize anyone?

Go here for a larger view.

The light hit the letters on the menu just enough to make the prices invisible, but the food's basic: Ham, grilled cheese and fish sandwiches, among a few other things.

Obviously no-smoking rules hadn't yet arrived in '78; plenty of ashtrays and a customer puffing away.

Does anyone remember the name of a small restaurant - and I'm not thinking of the old Mr. Burger - roughly where Whitt's Barbecue is today that burned sometime in the 1970s or early 1980s? For some reason I was getting that one mixed up in my mind with the Scotsman.

Picturing the Past is a regular feature of this blog. Reader-submitted photos are welcome.


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Was the picture taken for a story? Just curious what it might have been.

Is that another woman behind the one at the counter or some kind of large picture. Just wondering.

-- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Nov 28, 2012, at 3:51 PM

David,Was the other one Scotties or something like that? I was thinking like you,that the one that blew up was Scotsman.They had similar names I think.

-- Posted by kings11 on Wed, Nov 28, 2012, at 4:06 PM

Somehow or another in my mind it seems as if I can remember one of those restaurants serving a small Krystal like hamburger and I thought it was either Scotties or Scotsman, I can not tell you which. All I can really remember was the location. It was on the Tullahoma Highway just before you get to the old Walmart location.

-- Posted by leeiii on Wed, Nov 28, 2012, at 6:56 PM

It would have set right in front of the Badcock store( the one we can't think of the name).Yes they did sell the sliders for something like 15 cents each best I remember.It was like a diner car.It was brought in on a flat trailer and set off.I think the whole inside was like stainless steel.They had it open about a week after it arrived.I'm still thinking Scotties was the name.

-- Posted by kings11 on Wed, Nov 28, 2012, at 7:35 PM

Ok I just did a Google search and there was a Scotties burger chain in the 70s,and they did sell sliders.I feel 99% sure that it was called Scotties.I think it blew up from a gas leak on a Saturday or Sunday morning.

-- Posted by kings11 on Wed, Nov 28, 2012, at 7:44 PM

I think you're right in thinking Scotties. It was where Whitt's and the little Drive-in bank, that was Peoples Bank, is located.

Since you're at it what was the name of the resturant where Dr. Alcorns office, just past McDonalds, called? I had in mind that was maybe called the Scotsman at one time.

-- Posted by walrite on Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 12:52 PM

Buds drive in I think.

-- Posted by kings11 on Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 1:09 PM

Or was it Mr. Burger

-- Posted by kings11 on Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 1:09 PM

Anyone remember Turners where the old El Mexico is and you could by KFC before we had KFC here?

-- Posted by kings11 on Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 1:13 PM

As a young man I remember going to the Scotsman for the best hamburger in town...those flat grill burgers were the best and they toasted the bun...wish we had that great hamburger again somewhere. I found the burger at that little market over by the trailer parks Hillside Market maybe has just about nailed it...hand patted and all. I remember after church on Sunday going to Turners the crowd the food the folks...I sure miss that!

-- Posted by chefgrape on Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 2:54 PM

To stevemills, the photo was taken for an advertisement.

To kings11, Bud's Drive-In (not to be confused with Ray's Drive-In, much further out Madison) was roughly where Celebration Drive is now. Mr. Burger was in another building that burned; they rebuilt in what is now Dr. Alcorn's office.

-- Posted by David Melson on Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 3:12 PM

I believe that was called the Saddle Restaurant where the old El Mexico is. Way back when I started at the T-G in the mid 1980s, I interviewed the folks who used to run that restaurant. They were only the second restaurant in Tennessee to sell KFC. It was a handshake deal with Harlan Sanders himself -- he provided the seasonings and the special pots for pressure-frying the chicken, and they paid him a certain amount per chicken sold.

-- Posted by jcarney on Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 3:13 PM

Yea I was answering walrite.I said Buds but later remembered it was Mr Burger. Ok someone help me now.There was a restaurant about where Kenneth Wessner has his car lot or the 3D financial was.It was close to the Red Ace on Madison.What was the name of it?I remember that they served beer,but don't thing it was a beer joint.They had killer sketty.

-- Posted by kings11 on Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 5:06 PM

John was the Saddle owned by the Turner family ? I thought when they moved to where Parkway Diner(Richards)is it was then called Turners. The same ones who worked at Turners were on lane pkwy when the Saddle closed.I remember an older man who worked for them for a hundred years.

-- Posted by kings11 on Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 6:57 PM

kings11 -- the name of that was Honeyland with Mr. Farris as owner. Ray's Drive-In was on the corner of Hillcrest and Madison Street (where the market(was Kangaroo) sits now. Ray and Lou Haston both worked for Krystal in Chattanooga before moving to Shelbyville in 1955 to open Ray's Drive-In. They had the best little hamburgers in town. 10 cents for a burger and 12 for a cheeseburger. Now they are 8 burgers for $7.99 @ Krystal [ what a difference ] Lou also worked at Bradley Sun / American Can Co.

-- Posted by decorate1956 on Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 7:16 PM

Actually, I believe Handy Dandy currently is in the building that once was Bud's.

-- Posted by decorate1956 on Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 7:17 PM

decorate-- Was Honeyland a beer joint or restaurant?I remember people drinking beer at a bar,but they had tables set up where you could eat.I also remember Popes sold beer,but they made you sit at the back on the stools to do so.

-- Posted by kings11 on Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 7:32 PM

It was both; as far as what you could order. I don't know that you would call it a beer joint -- you are correct about the seating arrangement. I tried to remember the layout. I think there were only a few booths, a few tables and some stools at a counter. I remember there being a window[pass through] that I could see Mr. Farris. As kids, we were not allowed to go inside to eat. We would order a "to go" cheeseburger and fries and then scoot out of there.

-- Posted by decorate1956 on Fri, Nov 30, 2012, at 6:37 AM

Been waiting for someone to ask, who is that in the autographed portrait next to the restrooms ??

I have enlarged and still can't tell. He sure looks familiar.

-- Posted by moonwalker on Fri, Nov 30, 2012, at 9:30 AM

Looks like Jerry Lee Lewis

-- Posted by decorate1956 on Fri, Nov 30, 2012, at 5:42 PM

For some reason I always thought it was the founder.

-- Posted by kings11 on Fri, Nov 30, 2012, at 7:00 PM

leeiii....great to see your post and to know that you are still kicking!...As you know, places like Scotsman or Rafael came along way after my time in Shelbyville. What would have been at this location circa 1954?

-- Posted by steadyeddie on Sat, Dec 1, 2012, at 3:43 PM

that picture next to the restrooms is....Hank Williams Jr. :) before his mountain accident.

-- Posted by punkin1129 on Sat, Dec 1, 2012, at 6:08 PM

no way :) surely your kidding. I still think Jerry Lee Lewis / it is a piano and microphone on a stand and I don't know if Hank Jr. played a piano / I've only seen him with a guitar. If you're right and not kidding, what a difference in looks following surgery from his accident.

-- Posted by decorate1956 on Sat, Dec 1, 2012, at 8:15 PM

Here is a link to a pre accident photo of Hank Jr.

http://www.cmt.com/pictures/cmt-class-of...

-- Posted by ilikeoldsongs on Sat, Dec 1, 2012, at 9:59 PM

wow! That does look like the photo / I don't remember ever seeing him play a piano / my husband said he did / thanks for the link.

-- Posted by decorate1956 on Sun, Dec 2, 2012, at 6:14 AM

he does play piano :) and very well :) When a teen and early 20's I went to about 4 of his concerts and at one time in the show the band would leave and he sits down and plays

-- Posted by punkin1129 on Sun, Dec 2, 2012, at 7:19 AM

steadyeddie the location I am thinking about and the one several of the others have mentioned are two different places. The place I am thinking about would have been in 1954 approximately the Hoover Trucking Company location just before you get to the old Commonwealth Pencil Company location.

-- Posted by leeiii on Sun, Dec 2, 2012, at 2:31 PM

Leeiii Was the trucking co in that building or behind it and that was a parking lot?

-- Posted by kings11 on Sun, Dec 2, 2012, at 3:06 PM

The trucking company was in a red brick building and there was a gravel parking lot where the tractor trailers backed up to the loading dock.

-- Posted by leeiii on Sun, Dec 2, 2012, at 6:52 PM

O.K. leeiii....these are my Madison Street landmarks from 1954...The Rebel Maid..the old hospital...the bowling alley...Madison Street School...United Super Market....Alamo Plaza...Honeyland...41 Drive In...and the Merry-Go-Round. I can't quite place Hoover Trucking and Commonwealth. My 76 year old mind is fading away!

-- Posted by steadyeddie on Tue, Dec 4, 2012, at 1:08 AM

Hoover Trucking was on the lane just beside what is currently Rafael's. Commonwealth was in the building where Clarence Lamb Motors and Jerry Shelton Realty have recently occupied. Don't forget the carnival began to sit up on the lot where the parking area is for the old/new Wal-Mart location is on Madison St. And don't forget Ray's Drive-In and the 41-A Club.

-- Posted by decorate1956 on Tue, Dec 4, 2012, at 7:08 AM

decorate1956 you made me chuckle with your mention of Ray's Drive-In. That was one of my favorite hang outs. I will always have a dear spot in my heart for it and your parents. Ray, Lou, Barbara, and Wanda were dear friends.

-- Posted by leeiii on Tue, Dec 4, 2012, at 10:48 AM

Thank you so much. It was my favorite spot, too. Just sorry Daddy chose to do something else for a living when I was 10. I was just big enough to carry the trays to the cars without spilling:) Barbara and Wanda and Patricia were my favorites.

-- Posted by decorate1956 on Tue, Dec 4, 2012, at 5:00 PM

Turners Rest. was indead,where El Mexicos was.It was going strong in the late 70's. James and Frances Turner,were owner operators.

The man you were speaking of was probably,Barney Jacobs. He hung around,and helped when needed. I had the pleasure of working for the Turners in about 75 thur78.Mr. Turner was a great person to work for.He took great pride and patience to be sure everthing he served was fresh,clean,and what the customer ordered.He treated his customers,and help,very well.

He did later move to Lane Parkway,and operated it until his health failed him.

-- Posted by Gus on Thu, Dec 13, 2012, at 3:08 PM

I can continue the story of Turners after James and Frances Turner had to give it up, then Bob Clifford came in to run it but kept it under the name of Turners..always loved Sunday noon meal there after church... Thanks for the memories guys..this has been great.

-- Posted by PinkPanther1953 on Sat, Mar 23, 2013, at 6:11 AM


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David Melson is a copy editor and staff writer for the Times-Gazette.