T-G.com maintains a "G" rating

Kent, Thanks for stepping up to the plate and doing what is right. I agree with stevemills in that I wish TV would do likewise.

Please do not hesitate to remove any of my blogs if I get out of line.

Dear Mr. Flanagan:

I am the one who rang your phone recently to voice my concern for your editor's having taken down Mr. McClanahan's blog. I am also the one to whom you refer as having accused your paper of censorship.

I understand that the blog site belongs to the Times Gazette and, as publisher, you have every right to censor any and all writings which are objectionable to you. However, it is my opinion that as a community newspaper which purports to engage in fair and un-biased reporting, you should censor with fairness to all those who blog and, or, comment.

As objectionable as Mr. McClanahan's comments may have been to you, or to your editor, Mr. Flanagan, I submit that the same epithets which you proclaim are reason for his dismissal, are as of this writing, contained in many of your commenter's comments and, in at least one of your bloggers articles.

I am also, Mr. Flanagan, the person who brought to your attention the remark made by the Rev. Bell which you found offensive and removed from the blog site. However, I see that it is now contained in a commenter's comments and, neither the new posting of the remark or, the Rev. Bell has been dismissed!

It is not that I am objecting to the remark by Rev. Bell or his commenter but, to the fact that the remark you found so disagreeable a few days ago, is again posted on the Times Gazette blog site. It would appear that the newspaper has an editing problem. After all, you did so eloquently state that you accepted my accusation of censorship as "..a badge of trust to our readers...". Now we must wonder if the Times Gazette has the capability of censoring "..epithets and off-color terms." before the "..younger generation..." has had the opportunity to read and, be tainted by such writings.

My point is, Mr. Flanagan, that under present circumstances, the Times Gazette is unable to censor, edit or, otherwise delete objectionable material before it is read by the public. So, it seems to me that you should rethink your procedures and edit all material before it is published on your blog site - the same as you seem to do in your newspaper. Or, maybe you should continue 'as is' and let the reader determine what is objectionable without any censorship, except in the obscene. But then, didn't one Supreme Court Justice declare something to the notion that he didn't know what was obscenity, but he knew it when he saw it?

In closing, Mr. Flanagan, I believe you and your newspaper are performing at a social level you deem proper and good for the community. I wish only good for the both of you. I also believe that Mr. McClanahan has been treated in a manner not consistent with the words expressed by you and your newspaper.

I have known the Times Gazette and Mr. McClanahan almost the same amount of time - all my life! It would be a shame to lose either from the public forum - both have much to contribute! Can this bridge not be repaired?

Wow, I thought the flack came form Mr. Bell's blog. The T-G policies are suddenly seeming closer to censorship.

T G stand firm. Good job setting the standard so that our children can participate in this forum. Lead from the front!

Its a sad shame so many adults can't seem to see beyond themselves or their computer screens...which is why I have minimized the time I spend here.

Can you tell me why you do not get the same news online as you do when actually reading the paper? The paper has more happenings and news than you see online.

cmcclanahan,

I would venture to say that the decision to cut you loose was made some time ago when you openly exposed some truths about the shortcomings of the local judicial system.

They were merely waiting for a lame excuse to do the dirty work they were asked to do.

Common sense tells you that your use of the words "pathological liar", "sociopath" and "jackass" are not worthy of the actions the paper took.

I believe John Carney was just being a weak "puppet" for someone in the "system".

But opinions are just what they are and this is supposed to be the place to express them.

To be honest folks, nothing you say will change the actions of the Times Gazette staff or their decisions. They have decided to follow a certain political agenda and they have now made that clear so you now know to censor your own comments because that is the new world order. I guess no one told the staff what a true blog or forum is about . . . it is an expression of ideas and beliefs but in the Times Gazette case, only those that concur with their own. I did not always agree with McClanahan or Bell and many others who have posted but I believe they have the right to express their opinion just as I do to refute it.

There seems to be a double standard on this blog where some are allowed to get away with slander and biggotry and hate while others are punished for stating their opinion. The message the Times Gazette is sending is very confusing!

BTW . . . I have been called far worse than "ignorant coward" and have yet to see these people banned or comments removed. Man, if you really want to see uncivil comments then take a look at the Tennessean website and their comment section . . . they make the TG comments look like nothing!

cmcclanahan,

I would venture to say that the decision to cut you loose was made some time ago when you openly exposed some truths about the shortcomings of the local judicial system.

They were merely waiting for a lame excuse to do the dirty work they were asked to do.

Common sense tells you that your use of the words "pathological liar", "sociopath" and "jackass" are not worthy of the actions the paper took.

I believe John Carney was just being a weak "puppet" for someone in the "system".

But opinions are just what they are and this is supposed to be the place to express them.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Thu, Dec 31, 2009, at 5:43 PM

Really!? and who really shot John F Kennedy? Why would anyone care what Carl , me or you would think about the Judicial System or anything else. I seriously double that there is a direct line from the DA's office to the paper. I cannot help but think Ponyboy hit the issue right on the nose....

Judicial Boys ... Funny . So funny out on the farm

So funny out on the farm

-- Posted by outonthefarm on Fri, Jan 1, 2010, at 8:16 PM

I wouldn't admit that to just any and everybody.

It is pretty funny in the city as well. As far as the comment of Carls abilities that is also an opinion.

-- Posted by Sgt.Pepper on Fri, Jan 1, 2010, at 11:04 PM

I think the proof is in the numbers. Some of Carl's single pieces of work has garnered more numbers than the entire staff of the T-G can muster up as a unit in a year.

You can have your opinion.

I can have my opinion.

But the facts are in the numbers.

Now that is what is more than funny.

I think the proof is in the numbers. Some of Carl's single pieces of work has garnered more numbers than the entire staff of the T-G can muster up as a unit in a year.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Sat, Jan 2, 2010, at 7:32 AM

I'd be careful playing that numbers game. Seems Michael Bell's blogs regularly garner the highest numbers on the site. Is that really the comparison you want to make?

I think the proof is in the numbers. Some of Carl's single pieces of work has garnered more numbers than the entire staff of the T-G can muster up as a unit in a year.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Sat, Jan 2, 2010, at 7:32 AM

I hate to repeat myself but "... we can play the numbers game. If you subtract the number of comments that had nothing to do with the thread and look at the number of guys like you that are simply clones of carl or him using another email address to create alter egos, as witness suggested, then add the number of carls own rants the numbers mean nothing.

As far as my opinion it is based in the real world and not in the land of OZ where the purported genius is simply a figure behind a curtain. in the end what happen is the paper was put in the position of potential legal action. I do appreciate that there are folks in this forum that are easily lead to "drink the cool aid" but my experience with interacting with you before tells me you are an intelligent person.

So use that to understand there is alway to sides to a coin. That Carl is quite smart and articulate but that in and of itself does not make it right. If he would apply that ability evenly rather than stomp his foot and throw temper tantrums he would garner real respect from most but until he does he will never have any respect( which I no he could care less) from out on the farm

-- Posted by outonthefarm on Sat, Jan 2, 2010, at 9:48 AM

I hate to repeat myself but "... we can play the numbers game.

Posted by outonthefarm on Sat, Jan 2, 2010, at 1:46 PM

Ah hah. But it is nothing but a numbers game nimbo. Try to get the spot in the above banner to advertise in and you will hear all about some numbers. You will be given a number on views. You will be given a number for clicks. You will be given a number for the cost to advertise in the spot that is all about numbers.

Numbers....numbers...numbers...it's all about numbers nimbo.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Sat, Jan 2, 2010, at 7:27 PM

Really,? well lets put it this way. the potential exposure for the paper being sued for allowing the self serving propaganda that was being expounded by many would not and could not be covered by the pennies the dribble of you and others with any lack of common sense could garner for the paper. the only "nimbo" statement I made was to give you any credibility in the first place. It looks like you have drank the cool aid and are a mindless follower of the Wizard of Oz.

Last it is obvious you had no ability to reply with a contingent reply. It is true the "numbers are shown" but if you had the ability to read you could have seen my point is the numbers are false. This is a simple matter of accounting. Take the number of "clicks" away that represent Carl checking and commenting on his blog under his other names. The number of clicks by Sgt. Pepper who was monitoring the blogs for a local lawyer and business and you will see the true numbers. But you know the biggest most telling aspect is the blog is gone. And your leader has no soap box but as usual real commonsense prevails from out on the farm

It is pretty funny in the city as well. As far as the comment of Carls abilities that is also an opinion.

-- Posted by Sgt.Pepper on Fri, Jan 1, 2010, at 11:04 PM

I think the proof is in the numbers. Some of Carl's single pieces of work has garnered more numbers than the entire staff of the T-G can muster up as a unit in a year.

You can have your opinion.

I can have my opinion.

But the facts are in the numbers.

Now that is what is more than funny.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Sat, Jan 2, 2010, at 7:32 AM

It is obvious you are a Carl fan. Either a family member or some form of alter ego. In any case you are correct you can have an opinion. You can attempt to be flip. But in the end I think out on the farm has made the point in his comment to jax.

This forum is for open debate and not designed to allow one individual with a grudge to abuse his position in having the ability to start a thread then use it to make false and miss-leading accusations against the businesses and people in this town. Now you can bla bla bla all you want. But the paper took the appropriate action.

So I would pose to you. Do you believe that anyone has the right to threaten to "out" another blogger? Do you believe that Carl would have the right to post your name just because you would disagree with him ? I also will make this comment. Number are nothing . I can start a blog then have my friends click the heck out of it or I can set up three or thirty gmail accounts and have each visit the blog and create false numbers. instead go back and count the actual post and replies. So get real the paper will never miss a cent because of the absence of the blog.

but as usual real commonsense prevails from out on the farm

-- Posted by outonthefarm on Sat, Jan 2, 2010, at 10:39 PM

And that is an opinion of itself.

Somecommonsense does not equate to a lot of common sense does it. You try and support your purported analytical numbers claiming they are a God send proving Carls draw to he paper. Then when your argument is basically handed to you that those numbers mean nothing you do what ....try and change your position on the value of either the numbers or Carls Value so which is it. It looks like instead of outonthefarm stepping or falling in it he simply fed it to you...

Sam Pepper

What article of his stepped on your crusty toes?

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Sun, Jan 3, 2010, at 4:19 PM

No one article rather the lack of professionalism he displayed in changing the subject of the Sentencing thread from one of the tuckers to that of purported illicit activity and attacks on various businesses in town.

You may hold carl out as anything you wish. But you need to understand his motives in changing the thread and threatning to "out" people are what caused his removal. He even attacked me after i simply followed his advice and reviewed several topics to which he claimed to have knowledge.

It did not matter if I was right or if he was right. What is the central issue is that all bloggers including you have a right to expound and opinion as that, an opinion and not as a fact.

You do understand that the tos control the forum and blogs. The numbers may have a bearing on the ad cost. But the numbers mean nothing when the paper could have been faced with multiple legal actions. One last thought If you relate carl and bell to the highest numbers you can do the same with radio with shock jock like stern.

So do the number translate into the blogs expounding pearls of wisdom or "clicks" checking for slander or the latest temper tantrum of a biased individual with an age old grudge....time will tell. As far as being the KING of the blogs I would equate that to being the biggest pimple on the buttocks of life...in each case it take a small squeeze to relieve the irritation....your turn

Sam Pepper ... and your name is....?

No one article rather the lack of professionalism he displayed in changing the subject of the Sentencing thread from one of the tuckers to that of purported illicit activity and attacks on various businesses in town.

Posted by Sgt.Pepper on Mon, Jan 4, 2010, at 12:01 AM

Sgt.Pepper,

I never read an attack on any business in town from Carl.

Carl simply stated that there were numerous similar activities going on in town and have been for years. I think this is common knowledge that at least 80% of the population is aware of.

Did your toes get stepped on somehow with his comments about the blind-eye being turned certain directions?

It appears that outonthefarm spends a lot of time on things he considers little things.

And again he spends more time on things he considers little things.

Thank you Sgt. Pepper.

Jack Salt

....the perfect defense to slander is the TRUTH.

Posted by cmcclanahan on Tue, Jan 5, 2010, at 1:12 PM

That's why you will see them threaten it but never take no action.

TRUTH is indeed the perfect defense to slander.

personally don't agree with what Rich did but the federal government was doing the exact same thing as he (Rich) was doing only instead of calling it bank fraud, they called it the "Ameridream" program.

When are people going to wake up and see that our federal and local governments were as much to blame for our building and banking industry collapses as anyone.

When local governments saw a flourishing economy propped up by the building industry, they created "development" and "impact fees" in order to bring in higher revenues. This practice artificially inflated home prices by ten or fifteen thousand dollars and much higher in some middle Tennessee counties and cities. People wrongly assume that builders and developers were the greedy ones...your city council members and county commissioners also had their hands in the pot as well.

As far as Rich's scheme, allow me the liberty to make a quick comparison:

* A low income or minority family wants to purchase a home through the Ameridream program. Ameridream promises to kick in 5k in down payment money as long as the seller/builder is willing to do the same. This allows the family who cannot afford the home in the first place to be able to buy the home.

* A low income or minority family wants to buy a home from Rich. They don't need your tax dollars from Ameridream because Rich is willing to loan them the downpayment.

Which is the better scenario? In neither case can the family afford the home or they wouldn't need the assistance from either. Both the goverment sanctioned program and Rich's program are prone to foreclosure because they both create opportunities for people with no savings and no income to purchase homes that they cannot afford.

I would be interested to know the statistics of eventual foreclosures from our governments own program versus those in Rich's program. I would venture to guess that the goverment didn't do much better in picking buyers since the primary qualifier involved the buyer being especially broke and unable to save up a down payment.

As I stated in the beginning, I'm not a big fan of what Rich was doing but I'm also not a big fan of over-zealous law enforcement officers, who do not understand the building or banking industry practices, jailing people for doing exactly what their own government is doing every day.

I say, Norton sure earned his fees in this case.

-- Posted by Ponyboy on Tue, Jan 5, 2010, at 9:01 PM

It looks like Horse Sense is better that "some" commonsense just a thought from the bushes out on the farm

And it looks like outonthefarm is still spending time on things he considers little things.

Bet he also spends a lot of time in the bathroom looking down.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Wed, Jan 6, 2010, at 6:36 PM

It is easy to see when I have bested some when they can only retort with such a weak attempt at humor. But i have looked down in the toilet and found what I think of your opinion and the place where it belongs. As far as my spending time here I hope it adds to your daily existence from out on the farm

It's easy to generate numbers when you argue back with your responding bloggers and when you have multiple identities to support your own opinions.

Other real joubalists don't argue and berate their detractors. Other real journalists don't need to chime in and support their own blogs with multiple other secret identities then berate people for being anonymous.

Carl's "numbers" are no more real or proof of a wide interest in his ideas than his claim to be a journalist.

ok lets see it is now Carls turn to post some sarcastic response. Wow what a great way to generate numbers for the thread. Does that mean that the topic of the thread is the point of the subject matter of each of the comments? NO! Just the point everyone is making. such as "Carl's "numbers" are no more real or proof of a wide interest in his ideas than his claim to be a journalist." as for your once again attempt at a response "Carl must be a pretty good journalist. Only his name could prompt you to respond."

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Thu, Jan 7, 2010, at 2:50 PM

I would suggest that the "numbers" are akin to a traffic jam at a car wreck. The ones of us who never would have responded simply stopped of view to the the carnage of his "ideas" . The fact is Carl is gone and for all your boo hoo blogging he has not returned.

Sam Pepper

Shelbyville Tn

Aah.......It seems the bicephalic Orthrus has again risen.

No way will they miss anything, every time this whimsical exchange of barbs occur the numbers go up.

Posted by Sgt.Pepper on Thu, Jan 7, 2010, at 6:16 PM

Yes, but don't you see even our "numbers" are about Carl. Only Carl could get you, ontheoutside, and ponyman to comment.

He still draws you. Ah, the mere thought of Carl excites you boys.

I do believe his subject matter smashed your toes. Only the truth can sting like you boys are experiencing.

Its very obvious to me that "somecommonsense" is another of the many anonymous identities that Carl possesses. His complete inability to stop arguing with other bloggers totally gives him away. Why didn't "lazzerus" chime in too Carl? I'm sure that he would have something positive to say too. This is too funny!

You can do much better than that Carl, I mean "somecommonsense" or lazzerus or whomever you are today. Now, Carl, you actually know for sure that you are the only one who cares whether you write or not. There are four persons in here that think your nothing more than crass intertainment.

I would have expected you to get your thesaurus out and wax philosophically about how you "aver" to this or that. Well, keep going by all means, your juvenile "circle" enuendo reinforces to everyone who reads this that you "Carl" are a petty, juvenile, insecure, and self absorbed jerk. Just as Carney stated, you have a complete inability to walk away from an argument.

Personally, I hope you continue to write. I wish you had your blog back, because I loved to watch others prove you to be wrong and watch you fall apart afterwards. You provided my comic relief for the day. But now your gone officially and like a hydra, have sprung multiple heads from which to spew your idiotic venom.

Maybe you should go create another identity to back up "somecommonsense". That way it at least "appears" that more than one person will come to your rescue. I like that idea Carl.

Maybe you could ask for one of those "ask an expert" columns so you could try and persuede us to believe that you were ever an expert in something. Oh, that's right, you are an expert in legal jurisprudence aren't you. Ok, first question for Carl's ask the expert... What year did Carl graduate from Harvard Law School? Was it 1969. Was it 1974. Was it NEVER!

Ponyboy,

I take it as a compliment to be thought of in the same league as Carl.

I hate it seems you had to serve as pivot man last night in your close "circle" and had your hands full so you were unable to type.

Don't loose your grip on things in life.

Toes will heal in time even if a big man like Carl stepped on them.

I would bet Sgt. Pepper was a Witness to it Outonthefarm.

I'm starting to agree with Sgt. Pepper that it is cold outside and that this is better than T.V.

The only reason I ever got involved with the blogging was due to the "know nothing pundants" statement made on a different thread

-- Posted by outonthefarm on Sat, Jan 9, 2010, at 12:34 PM

outonthefarm,

At least you are man enough today to admit when your toes got stepped on.

I admire that.

The truth does sting, but rest assured, time heals all aching toes.

outonthefarm,

It seems as I recall it was his story on the gambling issue that brought all of you guys out in your circle "from the bushes" to start tossing the rocks "from behind the bushes" at Carl.

Why did his gambling story get ya'll so stirred up on him?

Let's face it, both you and I are literally tossing "from behind the bushes".

I'm just as guilty of it as you are but likewise you are just as guilty as I of it.

You guys stoned the man from "behind the bushes".

outonthefarm,

It seems as I recall it was his story on the gambling issue that brought all of you guys out in your circle "from the bushes" to start tossing the rocks "from behind the bushes" at Carl.

Why did his gambling story get ya'll so stirred up on him?

Let's face it, both you and I are literally tossing "from behind the bushes".

I'm just as guilty of it as you are but likewise you are just as guilty as I of it.

You guys stoned the man from "behind the bushes".

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Sat, Jan 9, 2010, at 6:46 PM

It was not so much the story but the method in which he chose to attempt to persuade anyone who would object to his claim of expertise and opinion by calling them know nothing pundits who would hide in the bushes. Until then I had followed his comment with some interest but gave them the attention they deserved.

You are correct I have thrown from the bushes but I did announce I was going to do just that and why. You are also correct that you , I and others have been "guilty" of doing so. The issue becomes if Carl could not stand the heat he should have never post with his name and picture.

Unable to comment tonight...knees too sore.

Posted by Ponyboy on Sat, Jan 9, 2010, at 8:44 PM

Ponyboy,

Then roll over and go back to missionary style.

.....Or put Sgt. Pepper and Witness on a diet.

Ya'll boys are naughty naughty outonthefarm.

Shame, shame, you rock throwing pundits. :-)

I don't see it being a case of "inferior position" versus "superior positioning".

I rather see it as the honest, truthful and out in the open being attacked and ambushed by the frail, weak and hiding.

Of coarse this could be considered more of an opinion of morals and ethics of which side your position in my opinion seems evident from the subject matter of illegal gambling that got you guys stirred up and gathering stones and naming the bushes you would toss from.

Although you may say as you did above.... "It was not so much the story but the method"....I think it is clear the exposing story is at heart.

You may fool yourself but you can not fool ole plain and simple commonsense.

I can't speak for the others, but personally, I could care less about a bunch of gamblers. I don't gamble and I font care if others do. What I care about is hard working prosecutors getting scolded for doing their jobs. Carl wanted to essentially convince his readers that Mike Randles lied to the judge and jury in that gambling case. Mike did a great job of defending himself and essentially convinced me that Carl didn't have a clue as to what he was speaking of. But, in true Carl fashion, he couldn't quit while he was ahead.

I'm not in the system at all. When I see innapropriate arrogance mis-directed toward good people doing what's right, it upsets me. Carl (you) latches on to an idea and uses his vocabulary to convince others that he is right. But when he is corrected, he refuses to admit his mistake. He just plays a sort of word olympics to further promote his faulty ideas.

Most of us would either apologize or shut up. But not Carl (you). I'm not a prosecutor but I am an attorney and I can tell you with credentials, that while Carl (you) may have a rudimentary knowledge of the criminal justice system (enough to be dangerous) but Carl (you) are not an attorney and has no business entering in to such an argument.

We all have the right to be critical of the actions of others, but Carl (you) likes to take his public position of blog moderator to increase his credibility beyond his educational boundaries in a way that gives the public a "percieved" degree of accurateness that does not exist.

I and others simply pointed out the very obvious legal flaws in his (your) legal argument so as to put him in his place. I would not so much have blinked if he simply exercised his right to be critical then shut up and let others chime in. But Carl took it too far. So, I decided to do the same. To give him a taste of the sandwhich he made himself.

I can't speak for farm, or sgt., or witness, or Nathan or any of the others who have noticed the same sort of abuse of power that Carl subscribes to but I feel certain that they at least share some of my own personal observations.

So collectively we may have "stoned him" but Carl (you) provided the stones. Witness said it best when he warned him that when people start to take themselves too serious, that is when other people stop. That is what got my attention. I thought that he was telling Carl that it was time to re-evaluate his position, and either let the story die or risk redemption. Carl (you) was too arrogant to take the warning serious. Carl could never imagine that someone else could possibly be as intelligent as himself so he continued.

That's when I chimed in to offer my assistance in outing Carl's lack of expertise. Carl did this to himself. Pride commeth before the fall. I am pleased with the T-G's reaction to what was happening. Carl was too arrogant to see that he was playing right into all of our hands. We all recognized his weakness and exploited it until he made his own noose and stuck his head right in.

So I say...no, you should be ashamed of yourself. This is a great opportunity to learn something about "yourselves". You will never win this argument and you will never stop trying because you are Carl F@&$&NG McClannahan. Well, no that your name, your opinions, and your expertise won't buy a cup of coffee at the coffee break on the square.

You are still taking yourself too serious. You still think you upset the apple cart or ruffled some judicial feathers or some ignorant other conspiratorial idea you have drummed up to pump up you ego even bigger. Grow up Carl. This is not the CIA, it's just some of your friends trying to get you to understand that your not the smartest man in the world. I know it's hard to hear, but it's true. John T. Is the smartest man in the world.

Carl was too arrogant to see that he was playing right into all of our hands.

Posted by Ponyboy on Mon, Jan 11, 2010, at 11:46 AM

I think Cark knew the hands were all of the system. He like the rest of the town knows the use of the word "jackass" was not the cause or the pressure.

Your stone throwing from the bushes to ambush a man in the open is typical of the perceived character of most attorneys.

To me, you gave yourselves away from the start by the timing of your comments. All of you showed up with your stones right after the D.A. made his first and supposedly last comment out in the open after Carl stepped on his toes.

To me, I have enjoyed seeing how a man like Carl can get a bunch of you guys so bent out of shape.

That's powerful when you can get lawyers with (hehe)"credentials" drawers all wadded and kinked up.

Think as you will but I think we all know Carl spoke the truth and it upset some people "in the system".

His use of the word "jackass" is not what got him removed. That boat won't never float.

Anyone who denies it must be somewhat "in the system".

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Sun, Jan 10, 2010, at 8:24 PM

You are correct his language is not what got him removed. It was his threats against fellow bloggers and his assertions of "fact" that had been flagged that got him removed. Is it the fact that you are just a Carl fan that has you reacting to pony in the manner that would simply fuel the flames of discontent or that you have some other motive and driving force behind you?

It looks to me that you are doing your advocacy a greater harm buy continuing the banter. Well that is, if your support was an effort to see Carl return to this forum. In the end it does not matter that Carl was attempting to "out" some and "step on the toes" of others. It just comes down that through nothing more than his own arrogance that he finds himself a man without a country....Also it looks like you should be getting paid by the paper. it looks like your numbers are higher than anyone...but i am just a simple dirt turner hidding in the safty of the bushes with all you other know nothing pundits throwing stones at the "former" wizard of OZ.....from way out on the farm...lol

....but I am an attorney and I can tell you with credentials

Posted by Ponyboy on Mon, Jan 11, 2010, at 11:46 AM

Ponyboy,

Why not get whoever is mounted on your back to take the bit out of your mouth for a minute so you can bray out your (hehehe)..... "credentials".

It's still a little chilly out, nothing good is on TV, and I need a good laugh this morning. :))))

Be a good sport with this and bray out your "credentials" for us to admire.

how many people in those offices has Carl now alienated.

- Posted by outonthefarm on Tue, Jan 12, 2010, at 3:03 PM

At least by being true to his self and stating his honest opinion he did not alienate his own soul.

Myself,....I had rather alienate the entire staff of every office with my honest opinion as I had to put up with the smell from a brown spot on the tip of my nose.

Of coarse, being outonthefarm, you are most likely grown accustomed to that smell and understandably have even come to enjoy it.

One thing we learn early is you can catch more flies with sugar than vinegar.

-- Posted by outonthefarm on Tue, Jan 12, 2010, at 10:01 AM

One thing we learn early is that you don't have to worry about catching flies if you don't have the brown spot on the end of your nose drawing them.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Tue, Jan 12, 2010, at 7:29 PM

i would assume you are speaking from personal experience in following so close behind carl. I t apparent there is no telling where he stops and you start. It must be bad for you having lost the great Wizard of OZ. It was so fun watching him stoned from out on the farm

It was so fun watching him stoned from out on the farm

-- Posted by outonthefarm on Tue, Jan 12, 2010, at 9:01 PM

And that's truly the sad part of humanity in general and condition of your soul in particular.

Lol...

Aah....It seem Orthrus has morphed into the tricephalic Cerberus.

Ponyman,

If you need a fellow attorney to bray "credentials" with; my admirer and follower, some common sense, left his name and number on another blog of the T-G.

________________

Robert Allison

931-389-0006.

-- Posted by some common sense on Mon, Jan 4, 2010, at 12:56 PM

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Heck Ponyman, you guys may want to banter and bray about who has the most (hehe)"credentials".

Lol

Dear Mr. McClanahan:

Oh, my word Carl - now you have most certainly stepped off into the deep end - "all three of him."?

I love it, Carl being critical of anyone having typo's. Carl and all of his multiple identities have made numerous typo's and yet, even his most voracious dissenters have gave him latitude on it knowing that such a random forum does not lend itself to prudent proof-reading.

Before you throw stones, start reading some of your own rants. You may be plumptly surprised.

Lol :) Need any of the rest of you wonder why this idiot was fired from the highest paying job he ever held? Although, I must say, each sweaty and labored peck of his greasy keyboard expands our understanding of senility and Greek mythology. I still think the T-G should give him an "ask the expert" column. I need a good laugh these days. Dear Carl: How many licks to the center of 75 Tootsie Roll Pops?

Hummmm.......I seem to have stepped on the toes of someone....Oh who, oh who, I wonder is it.........???

Hummmm.......I seem to have stepped on the toes of someone....Oh who, oh who, I wonder is it.........???

-- Posted by cmcclanahan on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 3:25 PM

Numerous spottings of a hobbling Horynych are being reported outonthefarm.

Hummmm.......I seem to have stepped on the toes of someone....Oh who, oh who, I wonder is it.........???

-- Posted by cmcclanahan on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 3:25 PM

Numerous spottings of a hobbling Horynych are being reported outonthefarm.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 4:00 PM

. I will say again all is well, Birds are singing fish are beginning to jump in the lake and the crops should come in nicely . But we hear at least one of you has ticked of JT and that is well worth the time to read your blogs outonthefarm

-- Posted by outonthefarm on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 7:59 PM

I am not sure about who JT is but I do know of a story of one brother turning on another. Nice shooting TEX

. I will say again all is well, Birds are singing fish are beginning to jump in the lake and the crops should come in nicely . But we hear at least one of you has ticked of JT and that is well worth the time to read your blogs outonthefarm

-- Posted by outonthefarm on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 7:59 PM

I just figured out who three of the players are and you are right the one on the square is pi--ed. I think that is too funny. I did have a question to what did you do outonthefarm to have set off such a display by these two. At first, I could only imagine you were just a fly in the ointment until I figured out who you are. I did find your seminar very useful in my daily job and appreciate your assistance in the last incident. But when you put "seminar conducted by outonthefarm up on the projector I just about spit my coffee out. By the way you ever let anyone fish outonthefarm?

Sam

You guys have all the fun! Where is the polysyllable greek today? I love to read his blogs because it reminds me of the guy on "In living color" who used to use multi syllable words that he obviously didn't understand when a few simple words would have worked better. By the way, who is JT and how come he is angry at Carl? I can see amusement, but not anger. I am out of the loop and need to be caught up.

You guys have all the fun!

Posted by Witness on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, at 9:52 AM

Remember, Sgt. Peccer and I commented it was more fun than watching T.V. and outonthefarm enjoys it even when he hears birds singing in January.

Sorry, let me rephrase that again:

Sgt. Pepper is not Sgt. Peccer. geez...what a day.

I just figured out who three of the players are and you are right the one on the square is pi--ed. I think that is too funny. I did have a question to what did you do outonthefarm to have set off such a display by these two. At first, I could only imagine you were just a fly in the ointment until I figured out who you are. I did find your seminar very useful in my daily job and appreciate your assistance in the last incident. But when you put "seminar conducted by outonthefarm up on the projector I just about spit my coffee out. By the way you ever let anyone fish outonthefarm?

Sam

-- Posted by Sgt.Pepper on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 10:56 PM

First let me apologize for shocking you that way but you have to admit it was funny. I already knew who you were from our conversations in the Boro. I am glad that the outline and seminar has helped you guys understand and agree with me as to just exactly what is happening outonthefarm

But we hear at least one of you has ticked of JT and that is well worth the time to read your blogs outonthefarm

-- Posted by outonthefarm on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 7:59 PM

I just figured out who three of the players are and you are right the one on the square is pi--ed. I think that is too funny.

-- Posted by Sgt.Pepper on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 10:56 PM

No need for anyone to be "pi--ed" about what they read on this comedy station. Especially when they can remove any comment they find offensive by clicking on the little flag on each post.

Perhaps some people just like to be "pi--ed".

Click on the little flag to remove any "pi--" that blew on you.

Geez, you "know nothing pundits" are a lot of trouble to teach.

Geez, you "know nothing pundits" are a lot of trouble to teach.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, at 8:59 PM

Looks like you and your nose butt-y are the ones that got schooled. Maybe as I thought every time he puts his breaks on you get a nose full. But keep the one liners coming. Crank the numbers up for the paper. And you would be surprised just what the seminar was really about. There is a big surprise coming from outonthefarm

There is a big surprise coming from outonthefarm

-- Posted by outonthefarm on Sun, Jan 24, 2010, at 12:45 AM

I like suprises. Actually a got a couple being gift wrapped now for delivery to folks I believe are deserving of the package. It is better to give than to receive.

Yes indeed, they deserve the fruits of their labor.

Yes indeed, they deserve the fruits of their labor.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Mon, Jan 25, 2010, at 8:21 AM

And of coarse, the fruit can sometimes be a little bad.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Tue, Jan 26, 2010, at 8:09 AM

It depends on the preparation, how they are tended to and just what you want to use the fruits for....just saying... from outonthefarm

You are correct. It must be prepared and tended to and properly used....... with a "standard of care".

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Tue, Jan 26, 2010, at 12:07 PM

But to whos standard? That of the masses, or the dirt turner?.... outonthefarm

Take time now also to ponder the definiton of "know nothing pundits" with "your feet propped up outonthefarm".

It should ring a little clearer now.

It appears Carl can have you working for him vigorously and you never knew it.

Hey, also look up the word humor while you have "your feet propped up outonthefarm".

It's good to have a little of it everyday.

What would the world be like without a little cutting up and picking at one another.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Wed, Jan 27, 2010, at 12:51 PM

Humor that is rich. First, i understand your need to think Carl would want his own blog canceled and i guess you could assume that carl wanted the comments section removed as bazzar as that would seem.

I do not see how you would think that I had worked for Carl. I did do as I set out. That was to give some aid to the "know nothing pundits" that Carl would attempt to persuade not to challenge his opinion on anything. It was the paper that had the common business sense to guard itself from possible legal action. In that manner I applaud them for doing so.

I would suggest that the paper reopen the comments section and, as many papers do, hold each comment for review, If the comment is not libelous or slanderous and factual in nature then they can take the risk of letting the blogger speak for the paper. However, if the paper allows one to post half truths colored to serve one persons grudge of another the that is what God made lawyers for to begin with. As far as my and your bantering back and forth I have enjoyed the dance and hold no ill will to you.

Having said that, I do have my feet up watching the crops grow and the birds singing. And that is really what has so many (others)ill with life outonthefarm

".....You do know that the blood will run back to your head with your feet propped up possibily causing your dizziness and even your delusions such as birds singing in January in Tennessee don't you.

Just another attempt at humor from me, a fellow and chief "know nothing pundit". I liked the sound of that the first time I heard it.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Wed, Jan 27, 2010, at 4:57 PM

Funny but the birds are in a cage in my office....If the the "know nothing pundit" comment came from anyone else it may have never caught my eye. But since I knew who was throwing the statement I knew why it was thrown. As far as the "bush" i do have one it was provided by the news paper just like everyone else.

The issue I take with Carl clamoring about people hiding and throwing from them is he knew the rules of the game when he post his picture and proclaimed himself a journalist. I will say this, in many forums, web sites, blogs and news stories my name appears. If this forum choses to "go public" i will be one of the first to publish my name. I can assure you, you have read it many times in the this paper and would know me instantly. Until then I will count you as anonymous friend. Oh and I will add that I have only one online name and it is outonthefarm

You can go public now voluntarily and burn your bush. Step right up. The T-G is not making you stay hid and I doubt their changing of a policy will bring you out from behind the bush(es).

Only real men like Carl will stand out in the open and express their opinion.

Are you sooo famous that I would..... "know you instantly".... hehehe.

Now don't go and get all serious on me. You know I am a self admitted know nothing pundit.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Wed, Jan 27, 2010, at 8:25 PM

Never said I was famous just been seen. I would disagree with your comment that carl is a "real man". and ask, is your lack of publication make you less of a man ? I would not think so. If carl is so smart and grand why would he put himself in a forum of "know nothing pundits"? I would think it is more that he like to hear himself talk than anything else. By the way a measure of a man is how he treats his brother or business partner or readers of a blog or his fellow man. Not in the self glorification of an opinion of himself at the detriment of others. That is why no one like that will ever be fit to be from outonthefarm but set the standard and step right up when you publish your name I will also outonthefarm

By the way a measure of a man is how he treats his brother or business partner or readers of a blog or his fellow man.

Posted by outonthefarm on Wed, Jan 27, 2010, at 8:50 PM

Yes indeed and you were quite easy to measure up when you said you "enjoyed stoning the man and thought it was funny" from behind the bushes.

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Wed, Jan 27, 2010, at 8:56 PM

I take pride in defending those who he would label know nothing pundits. You see sometime you have to send the wizard home in his hot air balloon. You can say what you want and be as trite as you please. The end result was he was bested in his on forum by a bunch of know nothing pundits. that is just the way it is outonthefarm

Keep in mind though outonthefarm, I am nothing more myself than a simple "know nothing pundit".

Just don't believe in my opinion and take it so serious like you did Carl's of you.

Opinions are just.....opinions.

In his opinion you were a "know nothing pundit".

In your opinion he is a "wizard".

But it is still commonly recognized that a man can be measured by where he gives his opinion, whether it be out in the open or from behind a bush.

Hey, that's just my opinion.

Thank you fellow pundit.

We'll just leave it open for now as to whethter we are "know nothing" or "know something" varieties.

Hope to see you down the road peeking out from behind the bushes.

A dictionary makes as good of a stone as anything. Most people that hide behind the bushes chunk anything they can pick up.

My previous post left you much less than a dictionary to throw. :))) (purposely)

Now, has the need truly gone away or is it just now too difficult to find the stones to toss hidden under the snow and as we know you have already tossed the dictionary.

You, Ponyman, Sgt. Pepper, and Witness be careful lighting up your candles out in the big barn. I would hate to see it burn down with you in it. Pundits do not like being alone. I would miss you guys. :)))-

You, Ponyman, Sgt. Pepper, and Witness be careful lighting up your candles out in the big barn. I would hate to see it burn down with you in it. Pundits do not like being alone. I would miss you guys. :)))-

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Sat, Jan 30, 2010, at 11:29 AM

LOL... I know some wish or think ponyboy, witness and sgt and I are the same person. But trust me went I say I could not be more different than any one of them. Actually use to throw rocks at Sgt. and WItness from outonthefarm

There has recently been a reported sighting of bigfoot in the Wheel area and even of more interest is a spotting of a four headed monster around the square of Shelbyville and out on a farm running for cover in a big barn. A sketch artist working with numerous terrorized eyewitnesses came up with the following draft.

http://www.alexisanne.com/cocoonballoon/...

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Sun, Jan 31, 2010, at 9:29 AM

That is funny as _____ outonthefarm

Aha.......a narcissistic Horynych.......Who would have thought.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder........A mental condition outlined as follows:

A Pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), lack of empathy, and hypersensitivity to the evaluation of others, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by at least five of the following:

(1) reacts to criticism with feelings of rage, shame, or humiliation (even if not expressed)

(2) is interpersonally exploitative: takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

(3) has a grandiose sense of self-importance, e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be noticed as "special" without appropriate achievement

(4) believes that his or her problems are unique and can be understood only by other special people

(5) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

(6) Has a sense of entitlement; unreasonable expectation of especially favorable treatment, e.g., assumes that he or she does not have to wait in line when others must do so

(7) requires constant attention and admiration, e.g., keeps fishing for compliments

(8) lack of empathy; inability to recognize and experience how others feel, e.g., annoyance and surprise when a friend who is seriously ill cancels a date

(9) is preoccupied with feelings of envy

Sound like anyone you know? (sec. 301.81, Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Third Edition-Revised of the American Psychiatric Association)

This is latest Edition I have. May be later one but likelihood of this being different is small.

Yep.

Dear Mr. McClanahan & Somecommonsense:

Surely, one of you jests!

-- Posted by cmcclanahan on Thu, Feb 4, 2010, at 1:57 PM

What if 3 out of the 4 heads of the four headed Narcissistic Horynych monster has 7 out of 9 of the traits outlined above but neither head has 5 traits? Would the monster itself then be properly classified as a four headed Narcissistic Horynych ?

-- Posted by somecommonsense on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 7:50 PM

I alway thought it was a Phoenix that arose as if he were lazuras being called from the grave to guide the politics of both candidates in the same race. Or could it be just a narcissistic would be Demi God how would attempt to live vicariously through us polymaths from .....outonthefarm

Wow, no ten foot words , did you ever learn to use spell check?