Notes from the Newsroom
John I. Carney

It's show time!

Posted Thursday, August 23, 2007, at 10:05 PM
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  • I'll be SO HAPPY to see them LEAVE!

    -- Posted by mmp84 on Fri, Aug 24, 2007, at 7:44 AM
  • Perhaps this year we can do without hearing of mistreating the horses.

    -- Posted by weezie84 on Fri, Aug 24, 2007, at 9:33 AM
  • seems like we need to hear more about the abuse; discovery of, names of abusers, what's going to be done about it... not less

    -- Posted by deathtongue on Fri, Aug 24, 2007, at 9:55 AM
  • true, I was speaking in hopes that no one would mistreat the animals this year.

    -- Posted by weezie84 on Fri, Aug 24, 2007, at 10:04 AM
  • If the abuse is there I WANT to hear about it and I want it stopped. I hope they catch every horse that has been abused and if I had my druthers these trainers would be banned.

    I really hate it for the trainers that are on the up & up, because if those abused horses slip through inspection then the clean horse hardly has a chance and last year due to the uproar on the last night those trainers with supposedly sound horses were denied their chance to show. Let's hope that the message from the USDA about not tolerating this abuse has been heard and adhered to.

    -- Posted by HorseGentler on Fri, Aug 24, 2007, at 11:52 AM
  • You know it makes me wonder "Who do you blame for allowing these Supposedly sored horses to get as far as The Walking Horse Championship" it's not like they had never been in any shows before..Were they really sored or was it all about the money?

    And I wouldn't be so happy so see them leave if I were you.. Without the Celebration Shelbyville would be a ghost town..many businesses come into Shelbyville BECAUSE of the Horse Show.

    -- Posted by Dianatn on Fri, Aug 24, 2007, at 12:32 PM
  • Have you been out Madison Street lately? It already is a ghost-town! A well known feed store mgr. told me he LOST more business because his regular customers wouldn't even try to get to him because of the traffic during this time, than he made off of the "visitors". Where has Red Foods, I mean Bi-Lo gone?, K-Mart, where is the mall we all want to spend our tax money at we have been gripping about wanting for years? The business that come here are just NOT the businesses that us regular folk want. I'm sorry, I just can't shop at a farm center or lawn mower place. (Except to get my doggie some nice clean cedar shavings). Let me take that back, I can, but the kids throw a fit! I was the same way as a teen though....

    -- Posted by mmp84 on Fri, Aug 24, 2007, at 12:54 PM
  • I feel your pain, I really do...but the Horse Show brings a lot of revue to this town in the way of Hotels and Restaurants that we probably wouldn't have if it were not for these horse shows. And there is no telling how much extra tax money is collected during the Horse Show. If the Show left town who do you think would have to make up the difference in taxes? Property Owners, I am sure..A lot of Shelbyville Residents rent their homes during the show and go on a much needed vacation many of whom would be unable to do so without the extra funds.

    I don't really think the Celebration had anything at all to do with the closing of Bi-Lo many of the Bi-Lo's changed hands to Southern Foods and they were so expensive I didn't ever go in there but once or twice (I think that was their biggest problem they were not competitive)And you are right Madison Street is a Ghost town Shelbyville use to be moving towards Tullahoma but now we are moving towards Murfreesboro. The City does need to push for more business to move into some of these empty buildings but that don't have anything to do with the Horse Show either.

    -- Posted by Dianatn on Fri, Aug 24, 2007, at 1:33 PM
  • mmp84: Southern Family Markets (formerly Bi-Lo, formerly Red Foods) closed all of their Middle Tennessee stores at the same time. How is that a reflection on Shelbyville or its growth or development? Similarly, I think our K-Mart closed as part of a corporate downsizing in which a number of stores were closed at the same time. In both cases, it wasn't so much a reflection on Shelbyville's economy as on the particular chains (and perhaps a reflection of how Wal-Mart has taken so much business).

    The vacancies on Madison Street are just a result of the county's shifting population center. More businesses want to be located on the north side of town because they have to worry, not only about the people in Shelbyville, but about the people in the northern end of the county. Eventually, I think businesses will take a second look at Madison Street. There are some developers who are trying to renovate and redevelop the old K-Mart / Kroger shopping center, and perhaps that will turn out to be an anchor for more growth and development. The new elementary school now being designed will also increase traffic on Madison Street and may help draw businesses in that direction as well.

    -- Posted by Jicarney on Fri, Aug 24, 2007, at 3:02 PM
  • I've heard there are folks buying property out that way for another boom in that direction in future. My problem is that all those empty buildings and dried up shopping centers are a bad advertisement for new businesses. It shows the town can't support them. The old Kroger-K-Mart center probly needs demolition. Just my thoughts though....

    -- Posted by mmp84 on Fri, Aug 24, 2007, at 10:04 PM
  • That old Kroger/Big Lots building does need to be torn down, and if another shopping center is built there it should be done from scratch.

    It is honestly an eye sore. See the hotels and some restaurants do thrive year-round, but peak during the horse show. Has anyone stopped to think though, that perhaps if they built things for the CITIZENS of the county rather than the VISITORS to the county they may be more supported.

    Bedford County is growing, the only problem is, there aren't a whole lot of publicly available plans and information to let us know how it is going to be handled.

    I do realize the huge economic impact of the horse show, it is undeniable... The only thing I don't understand is why we cater to only that event? The Calsonic Arena can be used for multiple events, as could the Celebration grounds... Why not use those facilities more often for non-agricultural purposes...

    I am not knocking the horse show, I do realize it is hugely important to this county, it seems even more so than the ones who live here.

    -- Posted by darrick_04 on Fri, Aug 24, 2007, at 10:30 PM
  • There is supposed to be (and this is allegedly official) something going in the former Bi-Lo/Southern Family Markets building...

    Madison Street is not a ghost town at all. People live on that side of town, quite a few people actually. 90% of all industry are connected to that road... It is by no means a ghost town. I used to work at a restaurant on Madison Street and their sales had not decreased (while I was there) by a meaningful enough amount to even consider moving to North Main.

    Besides congestion on North Main, and no turning lane, it really isn't any better than Madison Street from a business perspective. The land/commerical lots on Madison Street are probably much cheaper as are the leasing/renting rates...

    It makes economic sense to build something where it is cheaper to locate, and where there are enough people who are willing to avoid North Main at all cost...

    Madison Street is highly poised for bigger and better businesses with easier navigated streets and more room to grow!

    -- Posted by darrick_04 on Fri, Aug 24, 2007, at 10:37 PM
  • Where is the rest of the city going to eat? When Burger King left to move to North Main they left everyone on the south side of town including the four factories whose employees needed a place to get a quick lunch what ever time of day they took one: Morning Noon Night or Midnight. I for one boycotted the new site for several months in protest and still have not been inside although I have to admit to using the drive-thru 5 or 6 times in recent months. Now Taco Bell no longer wants the business from the people on the Madison Street side of town and are planning to move closer to Wal*Mart.

    Why can't these places do like Sonic & Subway? They have 2 locations and seem to do well at both. I for one hate to try to get in and out on North Main and would rather pick up something at a place that is less crowded and easier to get in and out of.


    -- Posted by EastSideMom on Sat, Aug 25, 2007, at 10:34 PM
  • I had understood that the existing Taco Bell would remain open, although I could be wrong. I think the new one is going to be much smaller and emphasize the drive through.

    -- Posted by Jicarney on Sat, Aug 25, 2007, at 11:53 PM
  • I second what you are saying EastSideMom!

    I also hate to try to fight the light at Colloredo & N. Main to get out to anywhere on N. Main.

    I must come into town across the Cannon Blvd. river bridge and I was just thinking the other day, that it would be nice if there was someplace to eat or shop (besides Save-A-Lot) on the Southside. Oh well I guess I should be thankful The Co-op is on my side of town.

    Personally I think that when N. Main finishes it's growth spurt and Hwy. 41A South is completed as a 4 lane to Tullahoma, then maybe some growth will come back to that side of town. Then we can have two roads to avoid in Shelbyville. :)-


    -- Posted by HorseGentler on Sun, Aug 26, 2007, at 8:42 AM
  • Haha...

    I was told by the Taco Bell employees, that they would not keep the old building open, due to it being outdated and the maintenance fees...

    But none of that is official. I just don't understand why it is necessary to forget the other half of Shelbyville? I live off of 231 therefore I am in between Murfreesboro and Shelbyville. I for one could care less if Wal Mart or the others are 10 minutes from home.

    I have heard from NUMEROUS friends and relatives who on the Southeast side of town (towards Tullahoma) that it is much easier and more convenient to go to Tullahoma for their shopping needs. That is ridiculous, when the very places they go to in other counties were once a skip and a hop down the road...

    The fact is, North Main real estate and rental fee's are astronomical... The road is not capable of numerous buildings or even many more red lights... Traffic is a nightmare.

    I don't mind the business boom on that side of town, but there should be a rebirth or 'sprucing up' of Madison St. and Cannon Blvd.

    -- Posted by darrick_04 on Sun, Aug 26, 2007, at 4:33 PM
  • Dang I'm agreeing with darrick too much these days...must be something in the water...maybe it's the heat...no it's all the flys from the horseshow. :)-


    -- Posted by HorseGentler on Sun, Aug 26, 2007, at 4:44 PM
  • HAHA...

    Well I just see it differently...

    I do really like the expansion of North Main retail but Madison Street and others, shouldn't be treated as if it didn't exist...

    After all, if all these retailers locating here is based on the fact that we have a horseshow, why wouldn't they want to build near the horseshow grounds? Or atleast within view of the grounds?

    -- Posted by darrick_04 on Sun, Aug 26, 2007, at 4:59 PM
  • Well, businesses don't usually sit down and say, "Where can I locate my business where it would be good for the community?" They say, "Where can I locate my business where it will be good for my business?" For some businesses, that means locating where the traffic already exists. For other businesses, that means locating where you can get cheap property or rent.

    -- Posted by Jicarney on Sun, Aug 26, 2007, at 6:02 PM
  • I can be in Tullahoma at Walmart or Kroger much faster than I can get to ours. (I do still shop at ours most of the time because I am in that part of town doing other business.)

    When the NEW hospital is built, I can get to the one in Tullahoma faster, too, especially with the traffic between KFC and Northside clinic areas. I feel for the people in the southern parts of the county on this point too. I hope if I ever have to get there quick it is not a life or death situation.

    I am hoping that something comes back to the southeast side of town because soon there won't be anywhere else to build on North Main; they have already torn down a perfectly good church building and some historical type houses to put up their NEW and Better buildings and charge 3 times what they are paying for them.

    As for the Horse Show business, the dumbest thing that ever happened was when Shoney's shut down.

    -- Posted by EastSideMom on Sun, Aug 26, 2007, at 10:51 PM
  • Agreed... Wish we still had a Shoney's.

    -- Posted by darrick_04 on Sun, Aug 26, 2007, at 11:24 PM
  • Why'd the Shoney's leave? We thru a fit for one and got it FINALLY. Then it left? Did it not make enuf money? I loved their food bar. Employees were kinda questionable tho.

    -- Posted by mmp84 on Mon, Aug 27, 2007, at 8:28 AM
  • Okay back to the horses, I will give you a nice clean hundred dollar bill if all of those horses are inspected and even ONE of them enters that show ring un-absued! It won't happen and you can take that not as the opinion of an animal rights activist but as the former trainer of horses. A little mustard oil is one thing, it was when they started driving stakes in their feet that it became a problem. I am in NO WAY saying that mustard oil is ok for horses, it is obviously not. NONE of those horses would have EVER made it that far had they not been "sored". It is no horses nature to throw their feet when they step. Step high, that can be trained, some horses are just better than others. Throwing their feet as if to say "holy God this hurts" that is not a horses nature. They throw their feet because their feet hurt. Bottom line. Straight from the horses mouth *so to speak*!

    -- Posted by sambntn on Mon, Aug 27, 2007, at 4:05 PM
  • I have to agree with sambntn, my stepfather has 4 registered Tennessee Walkers as pets. They are gorgeous and everybody thinks he should show them but he refuses due the inhumane nature in which they get the high step. They are not naturally born to walk that way, I have sat for hours watching his horses in the field and they in no way look like that while walking. The inhumanity that goes into this horseshow is unspeakable and they (the owners and the trainers)should be arrested just like that Michael Vick.

    I will add a nice clean 100 bill to sambntn's if you can prove me otherwise.

    and to say the horses are treated better that most people, or as Rene Capley so nicely stated that she would like to live the life of one of those grand champions, then by all means do so and let me know how the stakes in your foot feels. Would like to see the commentary on that one.

    -- Posted by stolen25 on Mon, Aug 27, 2007, at 6:38 PM
  • HAHA... exactly.. Those horses are treated like crap.

    I realize it makes a TON of money for our little county. But so do the people who live here.

    -- Posted by darrick_04 on Mon, Aug 27, 2007, at 7:02 PM
  • Horses are beautiful naturally. They don't need our help. Training CAN be done humanely. It doesn't take chains to weigh their feet down for months at a time, it doesn't take mustard oil, and it doesn't take stakes in their feet. It takes time and attention from ONE trainer, a relationship with that trainer. They treat these horses that way because sometimes the "pretty" horses aren't trained exactly right. The not-so-pretty horses may be the perfect show horse other than it's not what the judges want to look at in a beauty contest. Maybe that particular horse has a relationship built up with his or her trainer and just doesn't want to perform that way for anybody, then you sore them? No. If I were soring my dogs feet I would be in jail. You better believe if I drove a stake through my dog's foot I would be on trial, why is it any different?

    -- Posted by sambntn on Tue, Aug 28, 2007, at 7:46 AM
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