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Notes from the Newsroom
John I. Carney

Blogging basics

Posted Wednesday, August 29, 2007, at 2:47 PM
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  • Thought: I like posting to blogs that are trying to make a difference in Shelbyville as well as open venues for discussion.

    However, once some blogs really start moving forward, they are no longer on the front blogging page.

    Would it be possible create a most popular blog link so that we can still access the blogs with numerous entries? Just seems like some of the discussions end before they really begin.

    Thanks.

    -- Posted by dooshie69 on Wed, Aug 29, 2007, at 4:21 PM
  • The blogs page ( http://www.t-g.com/blogs ) shows the 50 most recent posts -- which seems like it ought to be plenty. If you're following a particular discussion, just go to that particular blogger's blog page, where you can see a list of the most commented-on posts. Everything you need is already there.

    The design of the pages is set by our home office in Missouri, and they're gradually implementing it as a standard across the chain. I can't change it locally.

    Each of our blogs also has a special RSS feed for comments. You can subscribe to a particular blog's comments feed, and you'll be kept up to date any time a new comment is posted to that blog.

    -- Posted by Jicarney on Wed, Aug 29, 2007, at 4:34 PM
  • I agree, the most popular blogs should have a simple link when you go to the BLOG HOME PAGE...

    This site sometimes takes a little longer than most to load, and when you go to older blogs, it can get frustrating trying to find the ones that are most popular.

    -- Posted by darrick_04 on Wed, Aug 29, 2007, at 7:47 PM
  • Blogs are all about time -- about fresh new content. When you go to someone's blog -- anyone's blog -- what you see at the top of the page is not the most popular post, or the most controversial post, but the most recent post. If you get into a back-and-forth conversation in the comments for someone's blog entry, that's fantastic. But you have many different ways to keep up with that conversation yourself. You can bookmark the page for that blog entry. You can bookmark the blogger's individual home page. You can follow the comments RSS feed for that blogger.

    But the design of the T-G home page is intended to focus on the newest posts -- partly because we're a news organization (remember?) and partly because that ensures that all of our community bloggers (who are, after all, volunteers) get some face time. If the front page links were based on popularity or number of comments, there are some bloggers who might never show up there in the first place -- and since no one would ever get the chance to sample those blogs, they'd never get a fair chance to catch up in a popularity contest.

    I don't understand you saying that it's frustrating to find the most popular blog entries. If you go to an individual blogger's page -- my page, or Michael Bell's, or what have you -- there is a list of "hot topics" in the right hand column which includes the posts that have been most-recently commented on. Easy as pie.

    -- Posted by Jicarney on Wed, Aug 29, 2007, at 8:24 PM
  • I didn't demand anything and I knew you wouldn't waste any time making it any easier for the viewers to get to the hot topics...

    I do like that the site now lists more blogs on the home page of the blogs than it did for the first month or two. I realize there is a list of hot topics, you know yourself that I have used that feature just as much as you have..

    I wasn't really complaining, just putting a second on a previous blogger's opinion. I guess that's what you get for making a simple suggestion. DANG.

    -- Posted by darrick_04 on Wed, Aug 29, 2007, at 9:47 PM
  • And I was just answering. I was explaining why we do what we do. I thought we were having a conversation. I did not raise my voice, I did not call anybody names, I did not accuse you, or anyone else, of "demanding" anything (where did that come from?) I was just explaining. You are the one getting emotional, not me.

    -- Posted by Jicarney on Wed, Aug 29, 2007, at 10:04 PM
  • sorry

    -- Posted by darrick_04 on Wed, Aug 29, 2007, at 10:18 PM
  • man this blogging site seems to be getting a little dangerous....wouldn't want to tick anybody off.

    -- Posted by slingshot on Wed, Aug 29, 2007, at 10:19 PM
  • No you wouldn't... haha

    It's ok, it was designed for opinions. Just be sure to defend them. LOL

    -- Posted by darrick_04 on Wed, Aug 29, 2007, at 10:25 PM
  • I would like to add, that if others' search bars do not automatically delete the history, then the most popular blogs of that particular day, will still be in the search bar..especially to those who comment on an hourly basis, like myself, on some topics.

    -- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 30, 2007, at 11:23 AM
  • I didnt realize that the paper had a home office in Missouri. So, the paper really isnt local anymore . . . which would explain a lot.

    -- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, Aug 30, 2007, at 12:18 PM
  • We were sold to Rust Communications out of Cape Girardeau, Mo., in May 2004. We covered the sale in the paper, and I thought it was pretty much common knowledge in the community. Later, Rust bought the paper in Lewisburg as well.

    What does that "explain," jaxspike? We're just as locally-oriented as we ever were -- if anything, the corporate honchos want us to do a better job of covering the community. There are always tradeoffs between local and chain ownership, and naturally there are things I miss about the old days, but Rust was responsible for everything from the Sunday paper to this web site, which would clearly not exist in this form if we were still locally-owned.

    -- Posted by Jicarney on Thu, Aug 30, 2007, at 1:38 PM
  • Second that one!!

    -- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Aug 30, 2007, at 9:36 PM
  • Sadly, the majority of news-papers in America are now owned by larger news organizations. It is more cost-effective and allows papers, like the Gazette, to use color photos and an online news-site as well as providing daily news to the community.

    However, the downside is that journalistic integrity is no longer what it used to be. In other words, reporting both sides of a story without bias is even tougher with today's news organizations. The boss' view seems to count more.

    It is no slight against the Gazette or any newspaper, but it is the new American newspaper format. Times change and we all have to change with them.

    Now, if you want both sides of the story, you are going to have to search for it. It's more noticiable in larger cities (Washington, New York, etc.) than it is here, but it is a change.

    However, I like the online blogging and general upgrades, and I am willing to search for both sides.

    -- Posted by dooshie69 on Fri, Aug 31, 2007, at 10:17 AM
  • Feed readers might be your best bet if you want to streamline the blogs you want to see.

    Google has a good one, but there are others out there.

    You just link to the ones you like and each time they update, they appear in your reader.

    Good blog hunting.

    -- Posted by T. Sharp on Sun, Sep 2, 2007, at 7:10 PM
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