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To our bloggers and commenters

Posted Wednesday, October 10, 2007, at 4:12 PM

* Stick to issues, not personal attacks. Don't let a debate turn into a mudfight.

* We will delete things like profanity, racial slurs and other questionable material. In some cases, we will delete the offending comment but issue a warning before banning a user account altogether. In aggravated cases, such as if the commenter goes out of his/her way to let us know the violation was intentional, we will ban the account immediately.

* If your T-G account has been banned, you are banned until the newspaper decides to un-ban you. If you try to create a new account with another name, and we find out about it, we will ban that account too. A better solution is to ask for your account to be re-instated. But that's less likely to happen once you've already tried to sneak back in on your own.


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Will not be a problem. I am embarrassed by and apologize for my actions yesterday.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Wed, Oct 10, 2007, at 4:34 PM

That post was directed at several different people, one of whom tried to log back in today after having been banned a week or two ago. But thanks for your comments.

-- Posted by Jicarney on Wed, Oct 10, 2007, at 4:50 PM

Why don't you post these rules when we first sign up? Seems like a good idea to me.

-- Posted by stolen25 on Wed, Oct 10, 2007, at 4:57 PM

No problem we all seem to have things that push our buttons. I too have been known to have a temper tantrum or two. I realize none of us have the same opinions about everything and that is what makes a blog interesting.If we were all in agreemennt each and every time it would be boring and nobody would even come to read the blogs much less bother to post.

We all just need to stop reading between the lines of each other's comments.. afterall we really don't know each other (or at least most of us don't anyway) and we have no idea what that other person is truly like behind the computer screen.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Wed, Oct 10, 2007, at 5:07 PM

dag-nabbit! I always miss the good stuff! Where is it? I like to read 'em.

And, I get the feeling all ya'll know each other. Not that it matters to me.

-- Posted by countrymom on Wed, Oct 10, 2007, at 6:24 PM

countrymom

LOL I can assure you I don't know anybody, that I know of ...then again I might even know you :>) if I knew who you were LOL

-- Posted by Dianatn on Wed, Oct 10, 2007, at 6:57 PM

Exactly... I think I know two people on these blogs... That's about it.

And as for not being able to sign back up... where was that rule in the "terms of agreement"?

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Wed, Oct 10, 2007, at 7:09 PM

It seems kind of self-evident that someone who is banned from a web site is banned from a web site. That's what "ban" means. Otherwise, what's the point? If anyone who is banned can sign up for a new account at any time, there's no point in banning anyone.

-- Posted by Jicarney on Wed, Oct 10, 2007, at 8:24 PM

SO let me get this straight. A man can come on here and threaten to blow my brains out and he gets a slap on the wrist and yet REVOLUTION comes back today (I got to read her comments before you deleted them, IF you actually read them, she just wanted to clear up that she wasn't anybody else on here) and she gets rebanned? yeah, that's one heck of a policy there. Be nice if we had a blogmaster that actually knew how to run a blog. She came back because she was drug into a conversation by someone named disgusted and she felt the need to defend herself. So her name can be drug through the mud, and she just has to take it, whether or not she wanted her account deleted is not the point, the point is she came back because people wouldn't quit talking about her.

It only makes sense to have a list of rules WHEN you sign up, not just when little Johnny feels the need to make them up.

and as far as her sneaking in, well that is just plain silly, she came back as Revolution, not as anyone else. So obviously that can't be considered sneaking and personally I miss her.

-- Posted by dc_0725 on Wed, Oct 10, 2007, at 9:47 PM
John I. Carney's response:
No one threatened to "blow your brains out." If I had thought that was the intent of the message, I would have banned him.

I am trying to deal with this site to the best of my ability. I don't think there's any way we could have imagined all of the rules necessary to cover some of the behavior that's been seen here, so I have to use my best judgement as we go along. That's why I posted an explanation of what I'd done, and why -- something I certainly didn't have to do, and something that I knew would open me up for cricitism. There are some of our regulars who, if I posted that 2+2 equalled 4, would argue the point just to annoy me.

If you're unhappy with my actions, I'm sorry. But I've got to do what I think is right to make this board the safe and civilized discussion forum that readers of the newspaper would expect. If you want to run things differently, you're always welcome to start your own blog or message forum at any of a number of free sites designed for that purpose.

No one threatened to "blow your brains out." If I had thought that was the intent of the message, I would have banned him. "

Oh I beg to differ, just ask other bloggers on here. That is why his comment was flagged and removed last Friday night. There was a direct threat and you know it.

-- Posted by dc_0725 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 6:59 AM

Guess since he was an "ex marine" that "served" our country, that was acceptable. If you support that behavior then support them all, no double standards.

-- Posted by dc_0725 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 7:10 AM

♫♪ <--- World's tiniest violin playing just for you dc_0725.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 7:27 AM

John,

You have my most sincere regards in trying to moderate rabble. We can be a quarrelsome bunch of ornery, belligerent, persistent folk.

Sometimes I wonder if it might not be easier to allow our emotions to mushroom when we are cloistered in our own den. Were these discussions publicly held, I hope for the sake of our nation they would be more peaceful.

I for one appreciate your efforts and hope that a few angry negative people don't mess this great opportunity up for the rest of us more peaceful participants.

Keep up the good work and again, thanks.

-- Posted by dmcg on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 7:36 AM

♫ô <--- World's tiniest violin playing just for you dc_0725.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 7:27 AM

Wanna know where you can put that?

-- Posted by dc_0725 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 7:38 AM

I did not like the "splattering your grape" comment either, and that's why I deleted it and warned the commenter not to repeat it. But after hearing the explanation, I did not think it was intended as a threat of serious violence, and so I didn't ban the commenter altogether. You may disagree all you want (and I have no doubt that you will), but it was a judgement call, and I had to make it, and I made it.

-- Posted by Jicarney on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 7:52 AM

Thank you John, I am sure we have made your job difficult and for that, I apologize.

-- Posted by LauraSFT on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 8:22 AM

blah....

-- Posted by stolen25 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 8:47 AM

awww lookie, Nathan can make little music signs. Isn't he special?

-- Posted by stolen25 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 8:58 AM

And delete an entire blog, which completely defeats the purpose.

Not one but TWO!

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 9:02 AM

Removing my blog posting is my option so get over it. What are you guys so angry about anyways? Everyday you bring your poor attitude to this website. Do you really think anyone outside of your posse of whiners really wants to read what you have to say? Honestly, most of your comments are used to belittle someone else and rarely do you make a valid point. The only exception to this is LauraSFT, Darrick_04, and the blogger former known as Revolution.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 9:25 AM

So much so that you feel the need to always respond.

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 9:28 AM

WOW, I got a compliment...

I still think Revolution should be allowed to come back. The rules of these blogs are not clear and seem to be made up as we go. I understand she asked to be deleted, but then again, she made the conscious decision to come back on here and play nicely. John, what will it hurt to allow a blogger back, who simply asked to be deleted, and you even asked yourself the validity of such an action.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 9:30 AM

The rules being made up as we go should not be an issue. The newspaper can do whatever it wants, whenever it wants regarding the operation of this website. If you don't like that then you will have to go elsewhere. And you don't have to know the rules to be subject to them.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 9:38 AM

This is the Shelbyville Times Gazette forum and it is their choice to decide what is appropriate and what is not and what rules they wish to set. If you do not like the standards they have set then you are not forced to participate or comment on this forum and can form your own. It is really that simple.

But really, sometimes the discussion have been juvenile at best and I can see why they have been deleted. If you cant state your point without name calling or immature behavior then its probably best not to say anything at all because you aren't contributing anything worthy to begin with.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 9:52 AM

Removing my blog posting is my option so get over it. What are you guys so angry about anyways? Everyday you bring your poor attitude to this website. Do you really think anyone outside of your posse of whiners really wants to read what you have to say?

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 9:25 AM

Thank you Nathan for stating something, which is exactly the reason I rarely come back and read or comment on the blogs. I was probably one of the first five or so to ever post on these blogs, but I have no time for some of the sillyiness that I have witnessed recently.

Kudos to you too John for taking some type of action and "reading the riot act" so to speak.

As always JMHO,

William

-- Posted by HorseGentler on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 10:17 AM

OOOOPS, that should have been silliness instead of sillyiness...don't want the spelling police to come down on me. :)-

William

-- Posted by HorseGentler on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 10:31 AM

I think most of the personal attacks are left because people can hide behind a "sign on name". If people had to leave comments with their real name the attacks would probably stop.

-- Posted by ILOVEBEDFORDCO on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 11:34 AM

Well, I'll be Jesus, I just sent that same thing to Darrick in a text message!

-- Posted by LauraSFT on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 11:41 AM

This is all very enlightening here

"Everyday you bring your poor attitude to this website. Do you really think anyone outside of your posse of whiners really wants to read what you have to say? Honestly, most of your comments are used to belittle someone else and rarely do you make a valid point"-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 9:25 AM

If you do not wish for someone to disagree with you then you should stop blogging about issues that are controversial and stick to your computer knowledge (which BTW your initial blog said that was your purpose but I have yet to see but a few of your blogs about anything to do with computers) You apologize then turn around and do the exact same thing again (picking at people in order to make them mad). This would lead some to believe you really weren't that sorry afterall: Reminds me of the child who gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar: He's real sorry he got caught but he isn't sorry he took a cookie.

When you decide to stop throwing around names and belittling people who are disagreeing with you and have a little respect for other opinions besides your own, then you may very well get the respect for your own views. I hope you truly do not expect people to set back and let you call them names and belittle them on a public forum just because you think you are right without them having some recourse. The posse of whiners have made just as many valid points as you have and I am sure there are just as many people who agree with them (us) as there are that agree with you.. I personally have never had to call someone to come take my side. Can you honestly say the same thing?

Jicarney

And just to throw this in on a personal note; I think REVOLUTION was done wrong for being banned, you have deleted many comments and the people we not banned. If you are going to ban one person for language content then everyone who uses foul language should be banned, not just their comments deleted. If she ask for her account to be deleted and that's why it was deleted, then she wasn't' really banned was she? I have to agree with dc she did not sneak back in ..in fact her first sentence was, I am back.. don't sound like much of a sneaking in to me either.

That is my personal opinion not that it makes a hill of beans to you.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 11:43 AM

This is the first time I have responded to any blogs in several weeks, because I feel that almost everyone(including the newspaper staff) is using these blogs to incite other people. I wish you would do away with the blogs altogether. The Letter to the Editor and even the call-in line that was discontinued is more worthwhile and people can't directly respond to each other. Too many people want to restate themselves many,many times instead of just letting their 'opinions' stand. I guess they think everyone should think like them.

-- Posted by stardust on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 11:48 AM

Dianatn, just from reading your last comment there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that you did not write it.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:07 PM

I don't know ILOVEBEDFORDCO . . . some people are just tacky period and would do the same no matter of their real name was behind it or not. You are probably right about most though, people feel more brave to say certain things when they can hide behind a screen name and not have to suffer the consequences for what they said. I bet they would never say some of these things to the person's actual face.

We have people though that like to cause drama and provoke arguments instead of actually have view and discussing it in a civilized manner. Some people want to sit around and play the "You said this and I hate you and you are a" game and its just stupid. I would like to think we are adults and can act as such.

As far as Nathan goes . . he can say or do whatever he wants with his blog because it is HIS blog. Nathan doesn't force you to read it or comment so if you don't like it, THEN DON'T COMMENT OR READ IT!

-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:16 PM

Whatever you wish to believe Nathan.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:17 PM

I wonder if accounts are banned only by user name or if they can be banned by IP address...although that might be punishing some that were not guilty of any infraction, such as someone that might use the same computer, but would not be the person banned.

William

-- Posted by HorseGentler on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:22 PM

What you don't get Dianatn is the fact that I don't want the respect of people like you, nascarfanatic, dc_0725, Revolution, darrick_04, LauraSFT, or stolen25. I don't care if you think I am right or wrong. All in all I am satisfied with every statement that I have made on here and I stand beside them. I have even gone out of my way to make mention of my mistakes and to thank others when they make a valid correction when I get a fact wrong. I don't go out of my way to correct someones spelling or to point out their poor grammar because that is silly. I don't make fun of a person's home state. I don't call anyone a know it all. I will correct someone if they make a statement using incorrect facts or if they use invalid methods of argument to try and prove their points. That is how a debate works and I will catch you if you try it. I have called dc_0725 an ignoramus because he attacked me and he truly was ignorant to the facts that I indeed pointed out to him. So by definition I called him a name that does apply in that situation. And yes I happen to feel that the group that I mentioned, that you have identified yourself a member of are whiners. I feel that after being called a "know it all" in many conversations, some that I haven't even been a part of, and the butt of jokes on these blogs, that they have called me out, and that entitles me to say what I feel is true and fight back. If one of my friends wants to come on here and defend me then he is within his right. What business is it of yours? And also, I can blog about whatever I want to blog about, you don't like then too bad. Don't tell me how to live my life Diana.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:46 PM

Nathan only a couple of problems with that...please do NOT put me in the same category with nascarfanatic, dc_0725, Revolution,or stolen25.

I do believe you called me an idiot for disagreeing with you.

-- Posted by LauraSFT on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:51 PM

I wonder if accounts are banned only by user name or if they can be banned by IP address...although that might be punishing some that were not guilty of any infraction, such as someone that might use the same computer, but would not be the person banned.

William

-- Posted by HorseGentler on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:22 PM

I was wondering where you went HorseGentler. Glad you are back. It is hard banning anyone from a website. Unless a user has a static ip (most people do not), banning by ip will not work. Of course banning by e-mail address does not work either because many people have multiple e-mail addresses. Trying to ban someone in such a small geographic region is tough. It is possible however, but would require that you log the users ip and the time that they had the lease on the ip. With that information you could go to the users internet service provider and ask that they ban that user from being able to visit your domain ever again. Even then many of us would just tunnel through someone else's internet connection or hop on a wireless hotspot somewhere if we truly wanted to be unruly. Welcome to the wild west!

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:54 PM

I do believe you called me an idiot for disagreeing with you.

-- Posted by LauraSFT on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:51 PM

Yes, I forgot about that. I will check and see the context of that conversation and get back with you.

I see that they have been attacking you also for no reason also, so please ignore your name on that list.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:57 PM

Yes, I forgot about that. I will check and see the context of that conversation and get back with you.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:57 PM

JK :)

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:58 PM

I too am satisfied with every statement that I have made yet I have never called you names the worse I have said to you is that your comment was insane.I never once called you a know it all although if the shoe fits one must wear it..

I have never once attacked someone because they disagree with me yet you continually attack me for disagreeing with you.

Honestly I could care less how you live your life but please do feel free to take your own advice.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 2:00 PM

You see it your way, i'll see it mine.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 2:23 PM

I read Revolutions myspace blog yesterday and with the exception of all the foul language I agreed with some of the things mentioned. I commented, "No wonder that blog was written"! I also found it odd that her default picture was of her and Darrick since he is so non-everything! Vindicated decided to get nasty for some reason and post a picture of her and Darrick flipping birds???

Nathan, I really don't see how or why you tolerate some of the comments I read on here. Some people are just down right mean! Not opinionated, just mean! Im going to go away for a while and hope when I come back some others will be gone...

-- Posted by Disgusted on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:02 PM

Okay so what I find odd is that I have been on here since Revolution was on and have had plenty of lively exchanges with her and she is brought up over and over again on this blog and another one and she is not even allowed to defend herself (yes by her own choice)but when she did try to come back, she was banned again, not knowing the rules, since you just put them into effect after she came to defend herself.

and Nathan, for you to lump her into that group is silly, if you could go back and read her comments you would have seen how she was always side by side with you and you 2 often agreed. I know, I was always on the same blogs with you both and she was always praising your comments. Surely you must remember.

IN MY OPINION if you know where to find her, then go and talk to her there, but let's not throw around words like maturity and then talk about her behind her back like a 5 year old. She really is a nice person if you take the time to go and talk to her like some of us have.

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:17 PM

Nathan, never fear I know why "they" attack me the same reason "they" attack any female that seems to share a friendship with one of "their" friends. It's ok. Apparently my presence is intimidating enough to make them pick apart every little word I say. I couldn't care less if I tried.

As for why they attack you, well they just don't like you and they don't like that you stand up for what you believe in. While I do think you take it too far sometimes I also think that comes with a semi-closed mind. I think if more times than not you would listen to what people like Diana and Darrick say you would find that they aren't COMPLETELY wrong.

-- Posted by LauraSFT on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:20 PM

And who cares about a picture of someone flipping a bird? I am positive I have seen alot worse on myspace. 13 year olds half nude for instance.

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:20 PM

and Nathan, for you to lump her into that group is silly, if you could go back and read her comments you would have seen how she was always side by side with you and you 2 often agreed. I know, I was always on the same blogs with you both and she was always praising your comments. Surely you must remember.

IN MY OPINION if you know where to find her, then go and talk to her there, but let's not throw around words like maturity and then talk about her behind her back like a 5 year old. She really is a nice person if you take the time to go and talk to her like some of us have.

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:17 PM

As for why they attack you, well they just don't like you and they don't like that you stand up for what you believe in. While I do think you take it too far sometimes I also think that comes with a semi-closed mind. I think if more times than not you would listen to what people like Diana and Darrick say you would find that they aren't COMPLETELY wrong.

-- Posted by LauraSFT on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:20 PM

Noted.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:26 PM

If one of my friends wants to come on here and defend me then he is within his right.

Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:46 PM

EXACTLY..so what is so wrong when other people's friends come to their defense? I don't see that being any different. But for some reason all of you do.

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:26 PM

Apparently my presence is intimidating enough to make them pick apart every little word I say.

Posted by LauraSFT on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:20 PM

I have to say, I have a small poodle that is more intimidating than you are. You need to get over yourself.

-- Posted by Vindicated on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:28 PM

Noted.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:26 PM

I am not meaning anything by this,but it's sometimes hard to read the written word the way it was intended.

was that a nice noted or a sarcastic noted?

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:29 PM

EXACTLY..so what is so wrong when other people's friends come to their defense? I don't see that being any different. But for some reason all of you do.

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:26 PM

-There is nothing wrong with your friends coming to your defense.

-- Posted by LauraSFT on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:30 PM

I have to say, I have a small poodle that is more intimidating than you are. You need to get over yourself.

-- Posted by Vindicated on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:28 PM

--Actions speak louder than words honey!

-- Posted by LauraSFT on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:31 PM

I have to say, I have a small poodle that is more intimidating than you are. You need to get over yourself.

-- Posted by Vindicated on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:28 PM

Oh yes and I forgot to mention the always pleasant Vindicated. Vindicated ladies and gentlemen!

was that a nice noted or a sarcastic noted?

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:29 PM

Nice noted.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:31 PM

Oh yes and I forgot to mention the always pleasant Vindicated. Vindicated ladies and gentlemen!

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:31 PM

-That's right, we DID forget to mention Vindicated....so I wonder why they thought my comment was addressing them.....hmmmm

-- Posted by LauraSFT on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:42 PM

Thank you for clearing that up Nathan.

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:42 PM

Didn't think that you were talking about me, so no use in thinking that. I was just stating that you,my dear, aren't intimidating.

-- Posted by Vindicated on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:44 PM

Look at cha, giving yourself credit for being all psychic and stuff.

-- Posted by LauraSFT on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:47 PM

Will not be a problem. I am embarrassed by and apologize for my actions yesterday.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Wed, Oct 10, 2007, at 4:34 PM

-------- SO YOU'RE SORRY... but then... you're not...

Removing my blog posting is my option so get over it. What are you guys so angry about anyways? Everyday you bring your poor attitude to this website. Do you really think anyone outside of your posse of whiners really wants to read what you have to say? Honestly, most of your comments are used to belittle someone else and rarely do you make a valid point. The only exception to this is LauraSFT, Darrick_04, and the blogger former known as Revolution.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 9:25 AM

--------AH HA, does anyone see a discrepency between the last sentence above and the first sentence below? I'll tell ya, Nathan gets so confused about who he likes and doesn't like, that within two hours of one post of people who is defending, he starts attacking them again. You said I am fluent in "nonsense"... Please.

What you don't get Dianatn is the fact that I don't want the respect of people like you, nascarfanatic, dc_0725, Revolution, darrick_04, LauraSFT, or stolen25. I don't care if you think I am right or wrong. All in all I am satisfied with every statement that I have made on here and I stand beside them...........If one of my friends wants to come on here and defend me then he is within his right. What business is it of yours? And also, I can blog about whatever I want to blog about, you don't like then too bad. Don't tell me how to live my life Diana.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:46 PM

As for why they attack you, well they just don't like you and they don't like that you stand up for what you believe in. While I do think you take it too far sometimes I also think that comes with a semi-closed mind. I think if more times than not you would listen to what people like Diana and Darrick say you would find that they aren't COMPLETELY wrong.

-- Posted by LauraSFT on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:20 PM

Noted.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 3:26 PM

--------ARE YOU SURE THIS TIME? I'm not holding my breath.

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 4:36 PM

I notice that your little paper apparently only has a select few who don't see how ridiculous they come across to other readers. I thought these blogs started out with a larger variety of commenters. Just look at the previous discussion and it becomes self-explanatory as to why that number has dwindled significantly.

My momma always said, "No how much you think you know, or how educated you think you are, you can always learn better manners." {I thought I would throw in a quote to appear more knowledgeable.}

-- Posted by educated hillbilly on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 4:42 PM

I think most of the personal attacks are left because people can hide behind a "sign on name". If people had to leave comments with their real name the attacks would probably stop.

-- Posted by ILOVEBEDFORDCO on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 11:34 AM

Hmm... I must agree, my name gets mentioned even when I haven't been blogging, partly because I wasn't ashamed to use my name as proof of my beliefs. Trust me, a conversation in person with me, would be just as genuine as one on these blogs. Though, for some reason, it behooves certain people to point out a certain picture that was changed on a myspace page yesterday. I am not quite sure the validity of such arguments or the extent to which they even matter, but it was a horrible attempt to wager beligerent attacks on me and forget the topic at hand... and I don't hide behind screen names, such as the generic one used by yourself (only for an example).

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 4:44 PM

I don't go out of my way to correct someones spelling or to point out their poor grammar because that is silly.-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:46 PM

Dianatn, just from reading your last comment there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that you did not write it.-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:07 PM

Nathan, I invite you to explain the contradiction here.

I think this is no different, Diana made an attempt at posting something, and the only thing you can focus on is that you don't think it sounds, good enough, to be her own thoughts.

Yet another contradiction... You don't waste time with that, because it's just so "silly", haha... I guess you're right.

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 4:51 PM

FROM THE ANOTHER BLOG: (to further illustrate my point)

Don't let one flamer with a chip on their shoulder get the best of you. We all see nascarfanatic for what he is and his comments designed to make you look bad only make him look bad.-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 11:13 AM

Dianatn, just from reading your last comment there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that you did not write it.-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 12:07 PM

by YOUR VERY OWN DEFINITION, YOU ARE A "FLAMER"...

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 5:02 PM

Maybe comments should be limited to 1-2 per blog per person--I counted at least 12 from one person so far.

-- Posted by educated hillbilly on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 5:07 PM

I in no way implied anything about her comment (good or bad) except that it was not in her usual style so it appeared that she did not write it. That is my opinion and nothing more. You on the other hand correct people's spelling and grammar directly just to make people look bad. There is a difference.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 6:40 PM

So what about grouping all the bloggers in one huge "exception" pile, then your next posts consists of "not wanting their respect"... Just needed some clarity on that, of course you failed to address it...

In some blogs, these people have all but agreed 100% with you, and on a couple of issues, you see things differenlty, and suddenly they are ignoramus and other childish names?

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 6:47 PM

Wondering. Can't we all play nice and embrace each others differences? That is what makes us all beautiful and unique. I know that not everyone will get along, but we can atleast try to not get along nicely?

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 6:58 PM

No one is attacking you! I was simply commenting that could understand why that blog was written and I was not expecting to see your pic. there! You were the one that made the comment prior to mine about ruining a friendship over a smoking debate. Then your other friend went postal and posted the link to the other picture. Just like smoking I dont care what you do as long as it doesnt affect me or mine!

-- Posted by Disgusted on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 8:28 PM

If that was truly the case, then you would have never even mentioned the myspace issue three days after the blog had subsided from debate...

What did that myspace picture or the blog do to you or yours? NOTHING. Smoking on the other hand (no pun intended) affects everyone around you, whether you realize that or not. I don't think a single soul on these blogs has told you, to stop smoking... just that they agree, when push comes to shove and the rights of non-smokers are compromised, then smokers sould be respectful enough to smoke outside the building. NO OTHER PUBLIC facilities, i.e. Movie theathers, basketball arenas, or indoor concerts allow you to smoke inside, why is it such a fuss that you can't pollute the inside of a restaurant. Smoke, at home all day long. But when it affects, "me and mine" then I have a problem.

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 9:20 PM

Mr. Carney, I'd like to make suggestion.

How about deleting comments that have absolutely nothing to do with the blog?

This seems to be getting worse. Right know, if a reader clicks on a blog about racism, they get to read a lenghthy debate about the military. On a blog about the smoking ban, there's a debate about using proper grammer. And now we have comments about smoking on a blog about BLOGS.

To all the commenters, seriously, this is getting ridiculous. I like reading all of your opinions, but it's getting hard to even read when you have to scroll through a ton of crap to get to it.

-- Posted by Richard on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 2:05 AM

Thank You, Richard

-- Posted by stardust on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 5:40 AM

If that was truly the case, then you would have never even mentioned the myspace issue three days after the blog had subsided from debate...

To be honest the day I commented was the first time I had read any of it! Does it really matter that I was three days late? I wasn't aware that there was a time frame involved! I really have nothing more to say to you since you seem to only want to insult people!

-- Posted by Disgusted on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 2:24 PM

-- Posted by yallfunny on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 4:08 PM

So are you

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Sat, Oct 13, 2007, at 6:42 PM

Greetings to all. It's been a LONG time since I was here. Saludos a todos. Especialmente quiero mandar saludos a todos los almunos anteriores.

-- Posted by elsancudo on Sat, Oct 13, 2007, at 9:44 PM

Saludos a usted, no he visto que aqu' antes de hoy

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Sat, Oct 13, 2007, at 9:48 PM

hablo pequinto espanol, y tu?

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Sat, Oct 13, 2007, at 10:17 PM

Yo puedo hablar un poco de español también

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Sat, Oct 13, 2007, at 10:19 PM

LMAO... buenos noches!

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Sat, Oct 13, 2007, at 10:45 PM


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