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Independence Day

Posted Friday, June 25, 2010, at 10:57 AM

I understand that "Fourth of July" has become the normal shorthand way to refer to the Independence Day holiday. But I think it's probably a good idea to still refer to it as "Independence Day" at least some of the time, to remind us that what we're celebrating isn't watermelon or fireworks, but freedom.

On occasions like this year when the Fourth falls on a Sunday and some communities or organizations might choose to celebrate on the Third -- a Saturday -- instead, some of them actually promote the event by saying "our Fourth of July Celebration will be held on July 3." In a case like that, wouldn't it be better just to say "our Independence Day Celebration will be held on July 3"? That's a perfect opportunity to call the holiday by its real, legal name.

Just a pet peeve of mine, I guess.


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Agreed.

-- Posted by leeiii on Fri, Jun 25, 2010, at 11:26 AM

I do think most have lost any value of our Freedom for they can't even get Memorial Day right why would anyone on think that they could get Independence Day right either. Most are only conserned that they have a three day weekend to do what ever they want. No consideratin for it's true meaning of why we have freedom today.. expecially the ultimate prices that was payed for that freedom they are enjoying and don't care to stop and think of who payed the price. Freedom is not FREE.

-- Posted by RGeneW on Fri, Jun 25, 2010, at 1:41 PM

I agree John, I really think some of these people are so used to having freedom it is not a big deal and they take it for granted.

Some one died so i could be safe here in america..Someone sacrificed, someone had lost a son and or a daughter to war.. I really think about these things, especially when i talk with people in differant countries, they take none of that for granted and are lacadasial about it.

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Fri, Jun 25, 2010, at 5:12 PM

interesting.

independence and freedom are, of course, completely different concepts. the independence day holiday celebrates our independence from british rule. self-rule and freedom are not synonymous.

independence is the easier of the two to achieve and defend. independence only requires us to resist the imposition of foreign hegemony over our country.

freedom is a bit more complicated, and the greatest threats to freedom tend to come from internal sources, rather than external.

ironically enough, it seems the most common rationale given for attacks on freedom is defending freedom. freedom has been under attack since our country was first formed, and it is under attack today.

-- Posted by lazarus on Fri, Jun 25, 2010, at 11:39 PM

Well, you're right, of course -- but in this specific application, independence was a necessary first step towards establishment of a government that would secure freedom.

-- Posted by Jicarney on Sat, Jun 26, 2010, at 12:37 PM

are you saying that the british are not free?

-- Posted by lazarus on Sat, Jun 26, 2010, at 3:28 PM

freedom is not the right to do whatever you want , it is the right do what is right. I bet Washington, Jefferson , Adams,Franklin, and especially the ones who died on the field of battle would not recognize nor respect the nation we have become.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sun, Jun 27, 2010, at 2:11 PM

ah, yes. what better definition of freedom than the freedom to do whatever michelbell deems acceptable.

-- Posted by lazarus on Sun, Jun 27, 2010, at 3:43 PM

Not what I deem But what God deems aceptable, which can be found in the Bible in case you were wondering where to find out what He deems right and wrong!

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sun, Jun 27, 2010, at 5:25 PM

Jicarney,

Perhaps a copy of the Declaration of Independence posted here would be of value for reflection and comment.

What better insight is there, into this holiday, than the document itself?

-- Posted by Liveforlight on Mon, Jun 28, 2010, at 2:30 PM

What better insite is there? What better respect to remember those that were KILLED for our freedom on Memorial Day May 30th as it's document stated General Order No. 11, and was first observed on 30 May 1868. But man changed all that It is now celebrated in almost every State on the last Monday in May (passed by Congress with the National Holiday Act of 1971 (P.L. 90 - 363) to ensure a three day weekend for Federal holidays) Not for respect of those that were KILLED for our freedom... But for self enjoyement of a holiday three day weekend. Who cares for the price that was paid that they can enjoy there Freedom and Celebrate July 4th with "FLAGS, Fireworks, picnics" and a three day weekend.

-- Posted by RGeneW on Tue, Jun 29, 2010, at 7:08 PM

I agree RgeneW! Memorial day is also an important day to remember our troops, not just those that were killed and paid the ultimate price, but also those who were wounded and maimed,. and those fortunate enough to survive.

The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are two documents all Americans should read repeatedly. As a soldier I swore to uphold the Constitution against all enemys foreign and domestic. The greatest enemy that seems to threaten our freedom is ignorance.

As the blog implies, some seem to only observe the days off without reflecting on why we have them and honoring the ones who brought them about. Changing the date and name is just one step towards changing them into something other than what they were intended for.

-- Posted by Liveforlight on Tue, Jun 29, 2010, at 8:57 PM

"AMEN" Liveforlight you have the right conscept of todays world.. It's all about self satification.

-- Posted by RGeneW on Wed, Jun 30, 2010, at 3:17 PM

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-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, Jul 2, 2010, at 6:52 PM


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