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Notes from the Newsroom
John I. Carney

Bypass traffic flow

Posted Tuesday, August 16, 2011, at 11:15 AM
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  • I live on 231N and I am hoping to use the bypass when going to Tullahoma, however when I exit 231,I will be turning right. Those going to Shelbyville when using the bypass from Tulla should turn left on the bypass as there will be no on coming traffic except on the bypass, which in my opinion will be safer than turning left onto 231S.

    -- Posted by Poksalad on Wed, Aug 17, 2011, at 9:07 AM
  • After traveling the bypass, today I see that my suggestion will not work as one lane on each ramp is not complete. I am afraid that TDOT has created a dangerous situation. It appears to me that a curve is too sharp in exiting the bypass coming from Tulahoma. As much traffic as there is on 231, it is very dangerous for tractor trailors to make a left turn even though there is a turn lane. I wonder how many people will be hurt there especially during horse show week, hopefully none, but will wait and see.

    -- Posted by Poksalad on Wed, Aug 17, 2011, at 8:18 PM
  • the intersection seems failry staright forward to me and should not cause anyone any problems,( other than normal trafiic congestion)if they are being observant and paying attention to the vehicle they are in command of. However this is not the norm anymore and I guess everyone just wants the govt to supply more signs and instructions instead of themselves having to be responsible drivers.

    -- Posted by Bill H on Thu, Aug 18, 2011, at 2:15 PM
  • I think it's funny how people are referring to the bypass like it's a theme park ride or something that they have to make a major decision whether or not to get on and experience. It's a highway, just like any other, plain and simple. I'm sure the street signs are on their way. In the meantime, if you're adventurous, turn off on one of the mystery roads and see where it takes you. If not, just stick with what you know.

    Unique-Lies, this new highway does indeed connect Highway 231 and 41A-North just east of Shelbyville. I give you my word. :)

    Bill H, I'm in agreement with you on your comment about responsible drivers. If you're in control of your vehicle, you won't have any problems that are any fault of your own. Always watch out for the other guy though! You never know what he's gonna do!

    -- Posted by onenamil on Thu, Aug 18, 2011, at 3:42 PM
  • The reference to the northwestern leg of the bypass is just that community leaders have been asking for the whole bypass, east and west, since the late 1980s (and, more seriously since the early 1990s). And it was mentioned by at least one of the speakers at Wednesday's ceremony, and I've heard questions about it, so it was definitely relevant and definitely needed to be mentioned in my story.

    You have misrepresented a statement I made as a reporter by attributing it to Commissioner Schroer. He didn't mention "north" or "south," he merely said the bypass would divert truck traffic from the center of town, making traffic a little better for individuals and retail shoppers. Since there are more industries at the eastern end of the bypass than at the northern end, I was the one making the generalization that the bypass would connect those industries to 231 headed north towards Murfreesboro. Of course, it can also be used by industries north of town to head for 41-A.

    Actually, I wasn't thinking about Airport Industrial Park, so it's actually more balanced than I was thinking as I wrote the story (on deadline). In any case, Commissioner Schroer didn't say "north" or "south" or "east" or what have you. He did specifically mention Newell Rubbermaid, which is on the eastern end of town.

    We reported all along that the bypass was built with stimulus funds. Actually, engineering and land acquisition had already been completed before that time, so the bypass would have been built eventually, with or without stimulus funds. But it happened to be a "shovel-ready" project at a time when the state was looking for such projects on which it could spend stimulus funds.

    -- Posted by Jicarney on Thu, Aug 18, 2011, at 10:36 PM
  • In response to your question, Unique-Lies, "Now if you will answer me one more question... Which road has the right of way? US 64 or US 437? Does the bypass traffic have the right of way all the way to 41-A or does the bypass traffic have to stop for Highway 64 traffic?"...

    Both the traffic on US 64 and US 437 have to stop at the intersection because there is now a 4-way stop intersection there.

    -- Posted by onenamil on Fri, Aug 19, 2011, at 8:12 AM
  • Unique-Lies . . . get a life! :)

    -- Posted by bbbluebird on Fri, Aug 19, 2011, at 8:13 AM
  • Several things I have noticed...first off Unique-Lies...please tell me WHERE the 55mph speed limit sign is on Fairfield pike. Because believe me, I've looked! There are 3 speed limit signs on Fairfield Pike...1, leaving Cascade toward Shelbyville and tne 2nd right near McDale lane, before the new bypass. The 3rd sign is coming out of Shelbyville heading toward Cascade...only sign I've seen in that direction.

    Second, I took Fairfield Pike into Shelbyville yesterday and saw quite a few cars FLYING on the bypass. It may by 55mph, but good golly, they were way over that. So much so that when I came up the stop signs, I sat there for a few extra seconds double checking and triple checking on coming traffic. THAT concerns me. More so than people turning left onto 231. I think Shelbyville got its way by lowering the speed limit to 50mph there, that that "should" help. That being said, accidents are going to happen. And typically, they are operator error. Only time will tell what's going to happen.

    -- Posted by neighborhood mom on Fri, Aug 19, 2011, at 12:40 PM
  • Why in the world do we need a bypass?Great idea,lets divert traffic,and thus potential revenue around our already dying down.Have you seen the east end of Madison Street?It looks like a ghost town,I expect to see tumbleweeds and two outlaws dueling it out at high noon in the middle of the road any day now.I can see where it might be benficial to commercial vehicles,but really?I dont see that it will improve traffic on the North Main end,as long as the masses keep flocking to Wal Mart to purchase their cheap Chinese products.But whatever,man.

    -- Posted by white_power88 on Sun, Aug 21, 2011, at 3:57 AM
  • UL, I agree that it is unreal the amount of traffic on 231N, especially at peak times, but I also agree that the overpass was not necessary. There is a stop light about a block down the road at Calsonic and they could just made a cross road with a stop light without all the expense of the overpass.

    I also question the reason for the railroad overpass. I didn't think we even had a train coming into Shelbyville now. I know some track has been removed, and there are some type cars sitting on the track that has been in the same place for years.

    Its easy to spend money as long as it is someone elses. . No one can borrow themselves out of debt, but it doesn't seem that Obama realizes that.

    -- Posted by Poksalad on Sun, Aug 21, 2011, at 8:50 AM
  • YOU CAM NEVER PLEASE EVERYONE ON ANYTHING.

    -- Posted by faulk7 on Sun, Aug 21, 2011, at 9:00 AM
  • needs a trafic light at the 41 intersection sat there for five minutes trying to turn towards Tullahoma. guess I will turn off at 64 and use the light at 41.

    -- Posted by docudrama on Mon, Aug 22, 2011, at 2:49 PM
  • The next thing Shelbyville needs is a Pilot Travel Center... or a mom and pop friendly, sanitary truck stop.

    Wal-Mart parking lot was NOT intended to be used for 12 to 15 big rigs camping out over night. I realize they have NO other legitimate choice, and it isn't their fault. Do we even realize how much revenue could be acquired just by providing truckers a place to buy food, fuel, rest (in designated areas), and buying a few traveling necessities? I simply can't understand the lack of logic when our city DEPENDS on industry to survive.

    -- Posted by darrick_04 on Tue, Aug 23, 2011, at 2:19 PM
  • Thanks Unique-Lies...I did read that wrong...you are right, no 55mph speed limit sign, very few 45mph signs and everyone does 55 (or higher) anyway! ;) There should be a blinking light at Fairfield pike though. I understand you can see for a mile in each direction, but it is going to be someone that is not anticipating the cars (1) don't have to stop and (2) not paying attention to the speed the bypass cars are traveling. I double/triple checked again today and there was nothing coming either way...if I don't do it now, I'll get lax about it and that's when accidents do happen.

    p.s. I think a bypass toward Lewisburg would have been more useful...are there that many big rigs that are going to use the bypass to avoid the city and unclog the streets? Time will tell.

    -- Posted by neighborhood mom on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 6:00 PM
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