ARE WE SUPPOSED TO TAKE THIS?

You just did do something about it. You expressed an opinion without reprecussions. Just as the framers of the Constitution intended. As far as "being considered to pass a law to make it a hate crime to talk about people that believe in same sex relationships" what is your source for this information? Where is it being considered? Who is introducing this legislation?

Blogs are great. But the more you write stuff with blanket statements like that the more you're going to get called on it.

First off I have no problem with immigrates I have a problem with illegal immigrates whether they come here on their own or by means of some business bringing them here under the pretense of having them to do jobs no one else will do (which BTW is a crock the same jobs have been done for years without these illegals) If they want to come into the United States it Must be done legally, pay taxes just as I have to do, learn OUR language it is not my city's responsibility to teach their children to learn to speak English with my tax dollars. The United States was founded on Christian principals but now just so we don't offend anyone Prayer was taken from our schools Christmas Holidays are now Winter Breaks. And why is this done if the Christians have more rights? Do other countries bend over backwards to adapt to our way of life? No they do not ! If I moved to Mexico I had better be willing to adapt to their way of life and would expect nothing less. I don't go to France and expect them to cater to my way of life nor do I expect them to speak English to me…

If you can not Live in America and be American and nothing more Then you do not belong in America!

Theodore Roosevelt said it best when he said:

if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

These are only the headlines that Iread on various CREDIBLE newssites.As far as thr Hannukah or Christmas parades .Jesus wasn't born on Christmas anyway ,that come from a pagan tradition anyway .I do celebrate Christmas but as a holiday not holyday.I agree with DIANATN,if we were to go to any other country and did not comply with their beliefs we could be persucuted or even exucuted.As far as the gays go ,no I don't believe in rights for them ,I know you can't stop it but as far as giving them "helth insurance" as a couple ,no a man and woman who lives together[which is wrong anyway] can't get coverage.I know I will be called narrow minded because I look at things from a Christian point of view,but that is how I was brought up my life is dictated by the bible to the best of my ability,Istumble daily ,but as far as that goes I am forgiven daily.This country was based on Christian values whether people want to believe it or not.As far as where do I get my information ,you can search AFA.NET ,they are fighting for Christian values and for the family ONE MAN ,ONE WOMAN AND NO OTHER WAY !BE BLESSED!

I am being VERY sincere, please tell me which part of this you leave out, and which part you genuinely live!

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev.21:20 states that I may ! not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle- room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

That is why I thank God everyday that we are under "GRACE AND NOT THE LAW"I don't intend to offend anybody ,but I still believe in moral principles and if they do pass ammendments to allow gay marriage so be it ,just as long is it is not put into our school systems to be taught that is is ok.Ionce heard that we we were one generation away from becoming a athiestic nation and with the way things are going i believe it.The reason why our forefathers left England was to escape persucution and to be allowed to worship Jesus Christ how they wanted to not anyone else.Go to {eads .com]I guess since there is some churches who preach cotton candy sermons and condone all this immoral behaivor then their flock will follow.Remember that was the reason why Christ came to earth was to fulfil the law because man could not keep it.I don't claim to know it all but even if I wasn't a Christian I still would not think that gay was ok!Be Blessed!

All I have to say is "If you don't like Gay Marriage, blame straight people, they are the ones having all the gay babies"

and quit using the bible to justify being a narrow minded, bigoted person. I don't think God would like that very much and the MOMENT you step into the position to judge then you are putting yourself in GOD'S POSITION and that I do believe is the ULTIMATE sin!!

I decided to go to this "credible" website you talked about. AFA.NET and I read their 10 arguments against gay marriage.

Let's start with argument #1..The decline of marriages and children with multiple mom's and dad's. Okay so there are millions of children in AMERICA born to "straight" people that have no fathers or multiple fathers or the mother's don't even know who the father is. Divorce in America is on the uprise between straight christian adults and when one spouse or both remarry then one assumes that the child has multiple mom's, dad's, half siblings, step-siblings, etc. Is that covered in the bible, should we ban divorce and make people that are in unhealty perhaps even abusive relationships stay married just to uphold the sanctity of marriage? and what about babies born out of wed lock? what do you think we should do with them? Most children are shuffled (as your site puts it) from pillar to post, from one parent to another, to the grandparents, to the system NEVER having a stable enviroment. There are many children in need of loving homes, most won't adopt them because they aren't the rosy cheeked perfect white babies they want. So what is so wrong if a homosexual couple wants to give a child that needs love a home, a safe haven, nurturing? You CANNOT tell me that couples adopting these children will "make" them gay. All the gay children have been raised by straight people so far.

Argument #2.."The introduction of legalized gay marriages will lead inexorably to polygamy and other alternatives to one-man, one-woman unions."

Do you also believe this will lead to people marrying their dogs or cats if they so choose also? Polygamy is a "christian" based thought that people follow by translating the bible to read what they want it to say. WELL HELLO Polygamy ALREADY exists and has for 100's of years. So the legalization of gay marriage can't lead to something that alreaady exists in the world...that was a stupid argument on the AFA.net's part.

Argument #3...An even greater objective of the homosexual movement is to end the state's compelling interest in marital relationships altogether. After marriages have been redefined, divorces will be obtained instantly, will not involve a court, and will take on the status of a driver's license or a hunting permit. With the family out of the way, all rights and privileges of marriage will accrue to gay and lesbian partners without the legal entanglements and commitments heretofore associated with it.

THEY DO NOT WANT TO TAKE AWAY THE RIGHTS OF THE STRAIGHT PEOPLE, THEY JUST WANT THE SAME RIGHTS!! Did allowing the blacks to ride the same bus,go to the same schools and vote interfer with your marriage in any way?

Argument #4...With the legalization of homosexual marriage, every public school in the nation will be required to teach that this perversion is the moral equivalent of traditional marriage between a man and a woman. Textbooks, even in conservative states, will have to depict man/man and woman/woman relationships, and stories written for children as young as elementary school, or even kindergarten, will have to give equal space to homosexuals.

I have 3 kids in school and as far as I know, marriage of any kind is not discussed is schools, only in the church. They are too busy giving our children an education to teach them about marriage. That is my job!!!

Argument #5 deals with the adoption issue..a loving home is a loving home NO MATTER WHO SUPPLIES IT!!

Argument #6..Foster-care parents will be required to undergo "sensitivity training" to rid themselves of bias in favor of traditional marriage, and will have to affirm homosexuality in children and teens.

Foster parents are there to create a safe place for all children, if a child is homosexual then they should have to support them on it, they don't need to be affirmed that they are gay. Just like if they have black, mexican or AIDS babies, they are there to love them and help them in their lives.

Argument #7..Social Security..

No need to worry about that, your beloved George W. Bush has already insured that we will not have any money when we get ready to retire so that is a MOOT point.

Argument #8..Conversely, our U.S. Supreme Court has made it clear that it looks to European and Canadian law in the interpretation of our Constitution.13 What an outrage! That should have been grounds for impeachment, but the Congress, as usual, remained passive and silent.

Looking to European and Canadian law (which are far more advanced than our country) is reason for impeachment? Interesting...I am thinking that sending our troops to die in a insane useless war for oil would be reason enough for impeachment..another stupid argument on your side.

Argument #9..Perhaps most important, the spread of the Gospel of Jesus Christ will be severely curtailed.

Gays can't be christians and teach their children about God? wow that is one I have never heard before. What about all your precious evangelist that have been caught with young boys engaging in sex all the while preaching christianity to you and then he ask for forgiveness and it's given and you still look to him for guindance. HMMM..quit the double standard I do believe. Most "straight People" have been turned off to organized religion based on events and thinkings like this.

Argument #10..This reticence on behalf of Christians is deeply troubling. Marriage is a sacrament designed by God that serves as a metaphor for the relationship between Christ and His Church. Tampering with His plan for the family is immoral and wrong. To violate the Lord's expressed will for humankind, especially in regard to behavior that He has prohibited, is to court disaster.

Once again...straight people have made an abomination of marriage and it's "sanctity" I know gay people who have been together longer than most marriages. Where does God stand on marriages made in Vegas only to divorce 53 hours later? Should I be smiting these divorcee's?

I would like for you to address each issue on this blog instead of quoting a few scriptures and side stepping what is being asked. STEP UP OR STEP ASIDE...IF YOU PREACH IT...DEFEND IT!!

THERE IS "BAD CHRISTIANS"OUT THERE I WILL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT IT.RELIGION IS A NASTY WORD .I HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD RELIGION IS SOME THAT YOU SAY FOOTBALL IS OR TAKING A SHOWER OR EATING AT THE SAME TIME EVERYDAY.RELIGION HAS RUINED THE WORLD.YOU SHOULD LOVE GOD LOKE YOU WANT TO NOT LIKE YOU HAVE TO.FROM WHAT I HAVE STUDIED HOMESEXUALITY IS WRONG IN ALL FAITHS ESPECIALL ISLAM THEY WILL KILL YOU FOR IT.LETS PUT THIS TOPIC TO REST I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL .WE WILL RAISE OUR FAMILIES AS WE SEE FIT ,LET GOD DO THE JUDGING AND SEE WHAT THE VERDICT .BE BLESSEDAND BE A BLESSING!

but still hardly any of the quesitons got answered... i am not surprised

you could not handle the scripture i could throw at you we'll see who is looking up and who is looking down My Bible and the ones who wrote it need no defense just be glad that the sins still don't carry the judgments as they did in the old testament.These preachers that all talk about a loving God and saying that he won't judge you for this because he loves you .Their right in one since he does love us ,but we will all be judged accordingly.The ones that teaches this are ushering in the reign of the Anti-Christ where a lot of people will be decieved ,even God's elect if possible.There is no absolute right or wrong being taught only a area in the middle.There are the ones who accept Christ and the ones who don't.CAIN AND ABLE FAITH EITHER YOU GO WITH FAITH THAT YOU WILL BE FORGIVEN OR YOU BRAG ABOUT YOUR OWN WORKS. The bible is as revelant today as it was yesteday .God say I am the same yesterday today and tommorrow.We are the ones that changed not him.

amen!

Is God the author of confusion?

YES

1 Corinthians 1:27

God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise.

NO

1 Corinthians 14:33

For God is not the author of confusion....

so which is it?

Exactly!!!!!!!!!

If people were not judging to begin with, this blog would have never started

DEUTERONOMY 22:13-21

If it is discovered that a bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands that she be executed by stoning immediately.

DEUTERONOMY 22:22

If a married person has sex with someone else's husband or wife, the Bible commands that both adulterers be stoned to death.

MARK 10:1-12

Divorce is strictly forbidden in both Testaments, as is remarriage of anyone who has been divorced.

LEVITICUS 18:19

The Bible forbids a married couple from having sexual intercourse during a woman's period. If they disobey, both shall be executed.

MARK 12:18-27

If a man dies childless, his widow is ordered by biblical law to have intercourse with each of his brothers in turn until she bears her deceased husband a male heir.

DEUTERONOMY 25:11-12

If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy's genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her

I am still waiting...

"The Jewish law was created by God to help regulate human behavior. To remind the churches in Corinth and Ephesus how God wants us to treat one another, Paul recites examples from the Jewish law first. Don't kill one another. Don't sleep with a person who is married to someone else. Don't lie or cheat or steal. The list goes on to include admonitions against fornication, idolatry, whoremongering, perjury, drunkenness, revelry, and extortion. He also includes "malokois" and "arsenokoitai."

Here's where the confusion begins. What's a malokois? What's an arsenokoitai? Actually, those two Greek words have confused scholars to this very day. We'll say more about them later, when we ask what the texts say about sex. But first let's see what the texts say about God.

After quoting from the Jewish law, Paul reminds the Christians in Corinth that they are under a new law: the law of Jesus, a law of love that requires us to do more than just avoid murder, adultery, lying, cheating, and stealing. Paul tells them what God wants is not strict adherence to a list of laws, but a pure heart, a good conscience, and a faith that isn't phony.

That's the lesson we all need to learn from these texts. God doesn't want us squabbling over who is "in" and who is "out." God wants us to love one another. It's God's task to judge us. It is NOT our task to judge one another.

So what do these two texts say about homosexuality? Are gays and lesbians on that list of sinners in the Jewish law that Paul quotes to make an entirely different point?

Greek scholars say that in first century the Greek word malaokois probably meant "effeminate call boys." The New Revised Standard Version says "male prostitutes."

As for arsenokoitai, Greek scholars don't know exactly what it means -- and the fact that we don't know is a big part of this tragic debate. Some scholars believe Paul was coining a name to refer to the customers of "the effeminate call boys." We might call them "dirty old men." Others translate the word as "sodomites," but never explain what that means.

In 1958, for the first time in history, a person translating that mysterious Greek word into English decided it meant homosexuals, even though there is, in fact, no such word in Greek or Hebrew. But that translator made the decision for all of us that placed the word homosexual in the English-language Bible for the very first time.

In the past, people used Paul's writings to support slavery, segregation, and apartheid. People still use Paul's writings to oppress women and limit their role in the home, in church, and in society.

Now we have to ask ourselves, "Is it happening again?" Is a word in Greek that has no clear definition being used to reflect society's prejudice and condemn God's gay children?

We all need to look more closely at that mysterious Greek word arsenokoitai in its original context. I find most convincing the argument from history that Paul is condemning the married men who hired hairless young boys (malakois) for sexual pleasure just as they hired smooth-skinned young girls for that purpose.

Responsible homosexuals would join Paul in condemning anyone who uses children for sex, just as we would join anyone else in condemning the threatened gang rape in Sodom or the behavior of the sex-crazed priests and priestesses in Rome. So, once again, I am convinced that this passage says a lot about God, but nothing about homosexuality as we understand it today."

HMM.....

Please consider one last thing. I love the Bible. I read God's Word in it and hear God's Word through it. But the United States is not a nation governed by the Bible. Our nation is governed by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Our laws were created to protect an individual's right to disagree. If the Bible (or someone's view of the Bible) replaces the Constitution as the law of the land, we undermine the great foundation upon which this country was built.

That's all.. until SOMEBODY can HONESTLY defend their BELIEFS WITH EVIDENCE AND FACTS, not just more of the same.... We ALL believed our president that Iraq was the greatest threat to our country and that they in fact possessed WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, AND WHY DID WE BELIEVE THAT???? because we did not ask for EVIDENCE, we just believed...

the only reason you want to put this to rest, is because EVERYTHING you once believed, is no longer valid... the good thing is, i figured that out when i was 13

As does everyone else.. He blessed me with faith... and faith allows you to QUESTION in order to COMPREHEND.

Anyways, What about the fact that the word homosexual didn't exist until the 1800s, yet it got shoved in the bible in 1954? There was NO faith involved in that

This life is but a brief second in the time frame of God. I am looking to eternity which is well how do I put it ?Forever!It is not a perfect world and I will be the first to admit that ,and when I start doubting in God and his miracles I look at myself in the mirror because by all rights I should of died when I was 2 ,But God seen diffrent and answered my families prayers.Me and my wife were told that we would never have kids ,BUT through prayer we now have twin daughters.I will be the first to admit that the Christian faith has done a lot of wrong ,but without my beliefs I would still think that a lot of stuff that people do today is and will always be morally wrong.When I have nothing else I always have my faith.That Jesus was born of a virgin his baptism took away allof my sin [and yours to] past present and future,and his death on the cross paid the wages of sin[death] so I could live forever with him.When that trumpet sounds and Jesus steps out of heaven and the dead in Christ rise and those alive are caught up with them I AM GOING HOME.Then I will come back with him to put a end to evil once and for all and he will reign for a 1000years .What God you believe in or don't believe in thats up to you but my God is Jesus Christ and thatis is all I have to say about that!John3:16

Michael you said : "That Jesus was born of a virgin his baptism took away allof my sin [and yours to] past present and future, and his death on the cross paid the wages of sin[death] so I could live forever with him."

Does this mean he died for everyone's sins?

No Human is without sin.. but yet you are wanting to Curse the "sins" of others while your sins are forgiven. Lets just say for a moment it is a sin to be gay or have an abortion. What makes their sin any worse than the sins of everyday life..(Do you occasionally tell that white lie? Or envy your neighbor because of a new car or a bigger house? or Lust for another woman?) These are all sins according to the Bible I always thought a sin was a sin. Or is there degrees in Hell where you only get a little bit of Hell for little sins and alot of Hell for bigger sins? Please enlighten me here because I really would like to know why the sins of just some select few are washed away but not everyone's?

We all continue to sin everyday ,but by having faith in what Jesus did those sins are forgiven .A sin is a sin ,bottomline THERE IS NONE BIGGER OR SMALLER ,WE WILL BE JUDGED ACCORDINGLY.The laws were given to show how weak man was ,put the laws on one side of the scale and faith in the other and see which is weighs more .The law is impossible to keep and God knew it would it would be ,that is why we neede a saviour.Everybodies sins were washed away not just one ,but only if you have the faith to believe it.When John seen Jeus walking up he ssid "THE LAMB OF GOD WHO TAKES AWAY THE SIN OF THE WORLD"That pretty tells me he took everybodies IF YOU BELIEVE I don't go by what the founding church fathers wrote ,and I still search scriptures daily and the only thing I can see the Bible says is to repent and to go and sin no more ,the sins were and are already forgiven ,we have to have faith believe in the rebirth of the water and the blood and the spirit for all three are essential to salvation.If you get a chance go to nlmission.com and read about PAUL C JONG it will really change your frame of thinking.Jesus wiped away all sin so why continue to live in doubt.The homosexual issue is to my generation as racism was to the people of the 60's ,it touches everybody and we all choose sides .God is abundant in mercy and grace ,we better hope so as sinful as we are.

A LITTLE HARD TO SWALLOW.. SINCE I CAN'T START MY OWN BLOG, I FIGURED THIS WOULD SUFFICE!!

Nostradamus said this...

century 6 quatrain 13

A doubtful man shall not come far from the reign

The greatest part will uphold him

A capital will not consent that he should reign.

His great chair he shall not be able to maintain.

-This one is pretty straightforward, and it concerns the man who tried to stop the AntiChrist's rise to power: "A doubtful man shall not come far from the reign" = Everyone doubted Gore had a chance, but he ended up nearly capturing the presidency. "The greatest part will uphold him." = He won the popular vote. "A capitol will not consent he should reign" = The right-wing US Supreme Court in the capital Washington DC stopped the counting of votes in Florida to ensure Gore's defeat. "His great chair he shall not be able to maintain." = He also lost the office of Vice President.

century 2 quatrain 62

Ma-bus then will soon die, there will come

A horrible slaughter of people and animals:

At once vengeance is revealed coming from a hundred hands,

Blood, thirst and hunger when the comet will run.

-This gives us a clue to the last Antichrist's name, the sign of his coming, and the slaughter he will initiate before being removed. His rise to power is associated with a comet, and it was during the spectacular show of the Hale-Bop comet that Bush's own political star rose like a comet - he assumed his first elected office in '95 when Hale-Bop was first sighted, and by the time the comet reached its brightest stage in '97, he was already being talked about as the next president. "will soon die" may mean after the comet dies and the antichrist assumes power (the presidency), "will come a horrible slaughter " referring to the coming apocalypse in the middle east. "vengeance is revealed coming from a hundred hands" refers to the western alliance formed to take revenge for the bombings of the WTC and the Pentagon.

"MA-BUS" is also short for 'the AMerican, Bush', just by inverting the first two letters and leaving out the last H, which is already silent in Latin languages like French, the language of Nostradamus. It is also a combination of MR.Bush, where the R looks like a capital A. Mabus is also a combination of MAgog and Bush, a reference to Bush's given name in a Satanic cult. (Bush was named 'Magog' in the scull and bones society.) Homework assignment: Write down the first two letters of Mabus -- Ma, turn them around 180 degrees, and hold it up to a mirror, Mabus becomes gW Bush. Note: Nostradamus also misspelled that Hitler's name, calling him "Hister" (Hysterical Hitler?)

century 2 quatrain 30

One who the infernal gods of Hannibal

Will cause to be reborn, terror of all mankind

Never more horror nor the newspapers tell of worse in the past,

Than will come to the Romans through Babel (Iraq).

-" The AntiChrist, aka MA-BUS aka 'MAgog Bush'aka the AMeircan BUSh, is strongly associated with a reincarnated Hannibal. Hannibal was a general from Africa who invaded Italy with his elephants in order to conquer Rome. But he failed to deliver the final crushing blow. Sound familiar? Colin Powel is another general, originally from Africa, who also marches with the elephants (Republicans). Just like Hannibal, Powel launched an attack in the first Gulf War, but he failed to go all the way Baghdad to remove Saddam, just like Hannibal failed to capture Rome itself.. "Never more horror… than will come to the Romans through Babel (Iraq)." This Quatrain equates the United States with Rome, and tells us that it is because of the current war in Iraq, that the United States (the new Roman Empire) will suffer a bloodbath like the world has never seen before

century 8 quatrain 70

He will enter, wicked, unpleasant, infamous, tyrannizing over Mesopotamia (Iraq). All friends made by the adulterous lady: the land dreaded and evil in aspect.

-This indicates the antichrist (Bush), not desiring peace, will bully and 'tyrannize' Iraq. The 'adulterous lady' is the statue of liberty, lady liberty, a symbol of America, that followed the Antichrist to satisfy their greed and thirst for power (and oil). America's 'friends' are the allies bullied into aiding American aggression in Iraq.

century 10 quatrain 66

The chief of London by the American reign, The isle will divide thee from Scotland by frost; They will have again as King one who is so false an Antichrist, That he will put them altogether in a conflict;

-The 'chief of London' is Tony Blair, Prime Minister of Britain, and it indicates that America is telling him what to do. 'Divide thee from Scotland by frost' dates this prophecy by indicating how Scotland recently voted for home rule and convened their first Parliament since 1707. 'Have again as king...' indicates how Bush, the American Antichrist, is making British foreign policy like a king - and the fact that his family is descended from British royalty. 'Put them altogether in a conflict.' says he will drag both Britain and America into war in the Middle East.

Century 1 quatrain 50

From the three water signs

Will be born a man

Who will Celebrate Thursday as his feast day.

His renown, praise, rule and power will grow on land and sea,

Bringing trouble to the East

-Bush was born on July 6 = Cancer, one of the three water signs. He was born in America, which celebrates its birthday on July 4 = Cancer. He was born in New Haven Connecticut, which was founded by Puritans on March 17, 1638 = Pisces, another water sign, though he claims to be from Texas, which on March 2, 1836 became a Republic = again Pisces. The Thursday "feast day" is an obvious reference to Thanksgiving, which identifies the Antichrist as an American president. It indicates he will have considerable military success at first, but in the process stir up ancient fears and sunni vs shiite hatreds, that will eventually lead to the battle of Armageddon.

century 10 quatrain 72

The year 1999, seventh month,

From the sky will come a great King of Terror.

To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,

Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.

-In June of 1999, Bush formally declared his candidacy for president, and by a July he was already calling himself the president. It is important to understand it was not just a mistake. The AntiChrist receives his authority from Satan - not from God, and not from men. By "mistakenly" calling himself president before any election had been held, Bush was announcing to the world for the first time in July of '99 that he was Satan's chosen ruler - the AntiChrist. Likewise the first AntiChrist, Napoleon, crowned himself emperor. And again the second AntiChrist aka Hitler never waited to receive a popular mandate before seizing power. Like Hister, Ma-bus aka 'AMerican- Bush', aka MAgog Bush, used thugs to enforce his authority in Dade county. If Bush had won the popular vote, and had not stolen the election in Florida, it would have been conclusive evidence that he was not the third AntiChrist.

Secondly, the quatrain refers to the fact that Antichrist will come into the world from the sky - the French word can also be translated as 'heaven'. George Bush was born in 'New Haven' Connecticut. (Scripture says Jesus will also return from heaven, and the antichrist is the counterfeit of Christ.)

Thirdly, it indicates that after the US gets bogged down and weakened by a religious war in the Middle East, it will be Communist China's good luck to be able to overrun what's left of the world in the style of Genghis Khan!

Then there's the Bush family alliance with the greatest evil in history - Adolph Hitler. Bush's grandfather Prescott Bush, also a 'scull and bones' man, got rich first by helping the Nazis come to power, then helping Hitler build the war machine that would decimate the world, and then even benefiting from Nazi slave labor and the extermination of millions of Jews. Auschwitz was built near coal deposits so that slave labor could be used in one of Prescott Bush's holdings, the Silesian American Corporation. Even after the US declared war on Germany, Prescott Bush continued violating the Trading With the Enemy Act, until the government finally shut him down late in 1942 - but not before making him rich, and establishing the Bush family as a power in American politics .

I AM STILL WAITING!!! FAITH DOES NOT PUT PEOPLE LIKE THIS INTO POWER... THAT IS THE WORK OF SATAN AND EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW IT!

"...If I hold in my mind not only all human knowledge but also the very secrets of God, and if I have the faith that can move mountains but have no love, I amount to nothing at all." 1st Cor.13:2 (Ph)

um.....I need a plumber that can plumb my house with all "female" parts, or, all "male" parts. Does anyone know how that would work? Any plumbers out there ever had that request? Would it ever work? Can you find "confused" parts at the hardware store that think they are one thing, when they are actually another? Absurd isn't it? I'm gonna get it now, and deleted too I'm sure!

countrymom, you summed up exactly how much sense anyone makes when they don't know what they are talking about. lol

Dianatn since you are one of the FEW people here who question everything they have been brain-washed to believe, I would like to commend you! AND I do realize accusing bush of being the antichrist is far fetched, because he is by NO MEANS intelligent.. but the signs and prophets predicted this... I am not much for fortune telling, but you can not get more accurate than that!!!

Anyways, I DO believe that our leaders, including Bush KNEW PLENTY OF INFORMATION about "9/11"... (as far as him setting up the attacks I do not know)

If he had nothing to hide, then why do we not have access to the video tape of the "plane" hitting the Pentagon, and how come there are NO eye witness accounts of a plane hitting the Pentagon??? Another thing, most Boeing jets are not 16' in width!!! The evidence is there to PROVE THEM WRONG, but they have it hidden and will probably destroy it!

There are tooooooo many signs and WAY too much evidence for people to honestly dispute otherwise, INCLUDING...

"1996--2001: Federal authorities are aware for years before 9/11 that suspected terrorists with ties to Osama bin Laden are receiving flight training at schools in the US and abroad. One convicted terrorist confesses that his planned role in a terror attack was to crash a plane into CIA headquarters. [Washington Post, 9/23/01, CBS, 5/30/02, more]

1996--2001: On multiple occasions spies give detailed reports on bin Laden's location. Each time, the CIA director or top White House officials prevent bin Laden's elimination. [Los Angeles Times, 12/5/04, New York Times, 12/30/01, more]

2000--2001: 15 of the 19 hijackers fail to fill in visa documents properly in Saudi Arabia. Only six are interviewed. All 15 should have been denied entry to the US. [Washington Post, 10/22/02, ABC, 10/23/02] Two top Republican senators say if State Department personnel had merely followed the law, 9/11 would not have happened. [AP, 12/18/02, more]

2000--2001: The military conducts exercises simulating hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets causing mass casualties. One target is the World Trade Center (WTC), another the Pentagon. Yet after 9/11, over and over the White House and security officials say they're shocked that terrorists hijacked airliners and crashed them into landmark buildings. [USA Today, 4/19/04, Military District of Washington, 11/3/00, New York Times, 10/3/01, more]

Jan 2001: After the Nov 2000 elections, US intelligence agencies are told to "back off" investigating the bin Ladens and Saudi royals. There have always been constraints on investigating Saudi Arabians. [BBC, 11/6/01, more]

Spring 2001: A series of military and governmental policy documents is released that seek to legitimize the use of US military force in the pursuit of oil and gas. One advocates presidential subterfuge and hiding the reasons for warfare "as a necessity for mobilizing public support." [Sydney Morning Herald, 12/26/02, more]

May 2001: For the third time, US security chiefs reject Sudan's offer of thick files on bin Laden and al-Qaeda. A senior CIA source calls it "the worst single intelligence failure in the business." [Guardian, 9/30/01, more]

June-Aug 2001: German intelligence warns the CIA that Middle Eastern terrorists are training for hijackings and targeting American interests. Russian President Vladimir Putin alerts the US of suicide pilots training for attacks on US targets. In late July, a Taliban emissary warns the US that bin Laden is planning a huge attack on American soil. In August, Israel warns of an imminent Al Qaeda attack. [Fox News, 5/17/02, Independent, 9/7/02, CNN, 9/12/02, more]

July 4-14, 2001: Bin Laden reportedly receives kidney treatment from Canadian-trained Dr. Callaway at the American Hospital in Dubai. Dr. Callaway declines to comment. During his stay, bin Laden is allegedly visited by one or two CIA agents. [Guardian, 11/1/01, Sydney Morning Herald, 10/31/01, London Times 11/1/01, UPI, 11/1/01, more]

July 26, 2001: Attorney General Ashcroft stops flying commercial airlines due to a threat assessment. [CBS, 7/26/01] In May 2002, Ashcroft walks out of his office rather than answer questions about it. [Fox News/AP, 5/16/02, more]

Aug 6, 2001: President Bush receives an intelligence briefing warning that bin Laden might be planning to hijack commercial airliners. Titled "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US," the briefing specifically mentions the WTC. Yet Bush later claims it "said nothing about an attack on America." [Washington Post, 4/12/04, Briefing, 8/6/01, more]

Aug 27, 2001: An FBI supervisor says he's trying to keep a hijacker from "flying a plane into the WTC." [Senate Report (Hill #2), 10/17/02] Headquarters chastises him for notifying the CIA. [Time, 5/21/02, more]

Sept 10, 2001: A number of top Pentagon brass suddenly cancel travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns. Why isn't this news spread widely? [Newsweek, 9/13/01, Newsweek, 9/24/01, more]

Sept 11, 2001: Data recovery experts extract data from 32 damaged WTC computer drives. The data reveals a surge in financial transactions shortly before the attacks. Illegal transfers of over $100 million may have been made through WTC computer systems immediately before and during the 9/11 disaster. [Reuters, 12/18/01, CNN, 12/20/01, more]

Sept 11, 2001: Described as a bizarre coincidence, a US intelligence agency was set for an exercise on Sept 11 at 9 AM in which an aircraft would crash into one of its buildings near Washington, DC. [USA Today/AP, 8/22/02, more]

Sept 11, 2001: Hours after the attacks, a "shadow government" is formed. Key congressional leaders say they didn't know this government-in-waiting had been established. [CBS, 3/2/02, Washington Post, 3/2/02, more]

Sept 11, 2001: Six air traffic controllers who dealt with two of the hijacked airliners make a tape recording describing the events within hours of the attacks. The tape is never turned over to the FBI. It is later illegally destroyed by a supervisor without anyone making a transcript or even listening to it. [Washington Post, 5/6/04, New York Times, 5/6/04]

Sept 13-19, 2001: Bin Laden's family is taken under FBI supervision to a secret assembly point. They leave the country by private plane when airports reopen days after the attacks. [New York Times, 9/30/01, Boston Globe, 9/20/01, more]

Sept 15-16, 2001: Several of the 9/11 hijackers, including lead hijacker Mohamed Atta, may have had training at secure US military installations. [Newsweek, 9/15/01, Washington Post, 9/16/01, New York Times, 9/15/01, more]

Sept 20, 2001: Several 9/11 hijackers later mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report turn up alive. "Five of the alleged hijackers have emerged, alive, innocent and astonished to see their names and photographs appearing on satellite television...The hijackers were using stolen identities." [quote in London Times, 9/20/01, see also BBC, 9/23/01, more]

Dec 2001-Feb 2002: The US engineers the rise to power of two former Unocal Oil employees: Hamid Karzai, the interim president of Afghanistan, and Zalmay Khalizad, the US envoy. The big American bases created in the Afghan war are identical to the route of the projected oil pipeline. [Chicago Tribune, 3/18/02, more]

May 17, 2002: Dan Rather says that he and other journalists haven't been properly investigating since 9/11. He graphically describes the pressures to conform that built up after the attacks. [Guardian, 5/17/02, more]

May 23, 2002: President Bush says he is opposed to establishing an independent commission to probe 9/11. [CBS, 5/23/02] Vice President Cheney earlier opposed any public hearings on 9/11. [Newsweek, 2/4/02, more]

May 30, 2002: FBI Agent Wright formally accuses the FBI of deliberately curtailing investigations that might have prevented 9/11. He is threatened with retribution if he talks to Congress about this. [Fox News, 5/30/02, more]

July 22, 2004: The 9/11 Commission Report is published. It fails to mention that a year before the attacks a secret Pentagon project had identified four 9/11 hijackers, including leader Mohamed Atta. The Commission spokesperson initially states members were not informed of this, but later acknowledges they were. [New York Times, 8/11/05, more]

2004 - 2005: A growing number of top government officials and public leaders express disbelief in the official story of 9/11. 100 prominent leaders and 40 9/11 family members sign a statement calling for an unbiased inquiry into evidence suggesting high-level government officials may have deliberately allowed the attacks to occur. [Various Publications]

Aug 9, 2006: A book by 9/11 Commission chairmen Kean and Hamilton outlines repeated deceptions by the Pentagon and FAA, including the timelines of Flights 77 and 93. CNN News: "The fact that the government would...perpetuate the lie suggests that we need a full investigation of what is going on." [CNN, 8/9/06 , MSNBC/AP, 8/4/06, more] "

HAHA, and that is just a VERY short list compared to the great multitude of facts...

And HOW ELSE COULD BUSH HAVE PASSED THE PATRIOT ACT, ESPACED JUDICIAL WARRANTS IN ORDER TO WIRE TAP OUR CONVERSATIONS, AND BYPASS EVERY OTHER BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT IN ORDER TO PROVE THAT HE DOES NOT HAVE TO ANSWER TO ANYONE!!! THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, THIS WAS A 'DEMOCRACY' NOT A 'MONARCHY'...

It seems we have a King, on the throne who thinks HE can make the decisions for all of the people in this country... Without even considering the majority of American's desperate cries for the exact opposite direction for our country! I don't know about you, but this 'HOLY-WAR' is ridiculous, and going nowhere... and all the people who support it, should sign up, BECAUSE THE ARMY AND OTHER BRANCHES CAN NOT MEET RECRUITING GOALS!!!

ARMY: BE ALL YOU'RE TOLD TO BE!

(If you want more scientific evidence, and video of the CEO of world trade center 7 saying "pull it".. this was a building not hit by the 'planes' yet it fell, remember.. then email me...

darrick_04@yahoo.com

I can provide you with information, instead of pretending faith is all I need!

THINKING is too "hard" these days!

actually i was answering her questions...

I just have to bring up one point. darrick_04, I will dispute one "fact" that you mentioned. The United States of America is not, nor has it ever been, a democracy. We happen to live in what's referred to as a Constitutional Republic. If we lived in a true democracy, nothing would ever get accomplished...wait, maybe you have a point there.

Ohhhh The Constitution, our current government has crushed it so badly I am not sure it will ever recover. We are in Iraq to give them freedom to form their own Constitution, maybe we should have just given them ours beings we aren't using it anyway. It would have saved a lot of lives, time and money.

No problem.. Thanks for actually questioning the hundreds of false statements surrounding the events... It's good to know someone doesn't just believe everything to government tells us... That is however, exactly what any President would hope for!

But they must remember THEY REPRESENT US, we do NOT represent them... We hired them, we are HIS boss, he is NOT OURS

Show me in the Bible where it says only Christains will be Judged!

1 Corinthians 6:1-2, "Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?"

1 Corinthians 6:3-4, "Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church"

1 Corinthians 11:31-32, "For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world."

So you consider yourself a Christian, Right? What makes you a Christian? Your Faith? The fact you attend church? Your Actions? Your ability to quote scripture?

Please do not read into this comment as a put down in any sort of way. I am just honestly curious as to why you believe yourself to be Christian.

I am a christian because I believe in GOD and Jesus Christ, and nothing will ever change that. And although I don't have the facts to prove that either of them exist, I still believe. I don't attend a church and clearly, am unable to state scriptures that are needed to prove points on here. I make mistakes, I sin. I am pregnant now, unmarried. But, GOD forgives and still loves us anyways. I am a christian because of I know GOD and Jesus Christ is real and nothing is ever going to take that faith away from me.

Awe, I am loving this thing called COMPASSION... and LOVE!

Yay!!!! Another great lesson or two taught by Jesus...

People have always had love and compassion inside of us, since day one. It's called the spirit, that which we become after death. Jesus gave love and compassion to all through his holy spirit, and we are all of GOD's children. People that never hear about GOD or Jesus, people that are brought up not to believe in him, still have him inside of him. It's called FAITH, the thing also factoring our spirit. Jesus does not turn his back on us, it is usually us who turns our back on him.