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Food for Thought

Posted Wednesday, August 15, 2007, at 8:49 PM

I was doing some reading this weekend ,and watching Perry Stone, who I consider a very anointed man of God. He had just came back from Israel and he had met up with a Jewish Rabbi and the Rabbi told him to read Genesis 11 backward to chapter 1 and he would be amazed. He never explained it to his viewers just to them to do it so I did. I was completely amazed. It starts with the tower in chapter 11, and then the destruction of the tower. Chapter 10 deals with where all the people moved to with particular attention on Ham and his son Canaan. After Ham seen his fathers"nakedness" Noah cursed his grandson, why would Noah care if his son seen him naked or not. In the laws of the old testament to take your father's wife in a sexual way was to see your father's nakedness. It has also been said that Ham raped his father and mother while they were asleep,or in Noah's case passed out. Ham's descendants finally settled in Sodom and Gomorrah, well the rest is history. The other descendants of Ham became all the tribes and nations that tormented Israel then and to this day.Chapter 8& 9 tells of the new creation of the Earth after its destruction by the flood. Chapter 7 tells of the ones who have faith and believe will receive both blessings ,everybody receives the first blessing which is life itself ,and all of God's natural resources only those with true faith can receive the second blessing which is not just life itself ,but eternal life. Chapter 6 tells of the continuous evil upon men's minds and their hearts and we only need to read the headlines to see that. Chapter 5 talks of my favorite thing and that is the "rapture of Enoch"he was taken out of the chaos before the destruction came.The same as the rapture of the church will do. Chapter 4 talks about being driven out of God's presence ,which all workers of iniquity will have done to them when they are cast into the lake of fire. Chapter3 old Satan enters the picture and does his thing ,just as in the end times he is released to do his dirty deeds knowing that he has been defeated,his goal is to take as many as he can with him. Chapters 1&2 talks of a perfect world with no sin, death ,curses or troubles the same as the last two books of Revelation.it is like God's clock started with the twin towers and it is ticking down till the end. The first ten generations that lead up to Jesus are as follows ADAM,SETH,ENOS CAINAN,MAHALALEEL,JARED ENOCH,METHUSALEH,LAMECH and NOAH.In the Hebrew this names mean.MANKIND APPOINTED MORTAL SORROWS THE PRAISE OF GOD CAME DOWN PREACHING,HIS NAME BRINGS THE DESPAIRING REST. This may not mean anything to some ,but to a man of faith it means alot The news is saying that they have a proposed peace treaty for Israel ,the only one to bring peace

"a false peace" will be the antichrist.All the earthquakes ,and other natural disasters.The European union reforming.The first major prophecy foretelling the SECOND COMING was the emergence of Israel as a nation in 1948 and that generation would not pass till the Son of Man would return[Matt 24:32-34]Iv'e learned a valuable secret and that is that the baptism of Jesus has more impact than we ever imagined. The Cross is taught to be what took our sins away when actually it was the baptism for John the Baptist said "behold the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world". Sins were taken away then now and in the future.Those who believe in the baptism [taking away of sins,the cross payment for sins and the resurrection ,reward for faith]heaven will be your home. We will still sin for we are mortal flesh ,we can't help it ,but with faith in these three all sins can be forgiven. Just as the flood destroyed all the evil in the time of Noah the baptism of Jesus took care of eternity . Does this give you permission to sin? No , because a true believer will not want to. Have a blessed day.


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"Noah is called a "just man and perfect," but he didn't seem so perfect when he was drunk and naked in front of his sons (9:20-21). 6:9, 7:1"

"God tells Noah to make one small window (18 inches square) in the 450 foot ark for ventilation. 6:16"- are u serious?

"Whether by twos or by sevens, Noah takes male and female representatives from each species of "every thing that creepeth upon the earth." 7:8"

"Noah kills the "clean beasts" and burns their dead bodies for God. According to 7:8 this would have caused the extinction of all "clean" animals since only two of each were taken onto the ark. "And the Lord smelled a sweet savor." After this God "said in his heart" that he'd never do it again because "man's heart is evil from his youth." So God killed all living things (6:5) because humans are evil, and then promises not to do it again (8:21) because humans are evil. The mind of God is a frightening thing. 8:20-21"-ODD, how did the animals reproduce then if he killed one of every two? HMM!

"According to this verse, all animals fear humans. Although it is true that many do, it is also true that some do not. Sharks and grizzly bears, for example, are generally much less afraid of us than we are of them. 9:2"

"Noah sends a dove out to see if there was any dry land. But the dove returns without finding any. Then, just seven days later, the dove goes out again and returns with an olive leaf. But how could an olive tree survive the flood? And if any seeds happened to survive, they certainly wouldn't germinate and grow leaves within a seven day period. 8:8-11"- Seriously, how did that happen?

"Noah, the drunk and naked. 9:20-21"

Sodom and Gammorah

"The two angels that visit Lot wash their feet, eat, and are sexually irresistible to Sodomites. 19:1-5"

"Lot [the just and righteous (2 Pet.2:7-8)] offers his daughters to a crowd of angel rapers. 19:8" - - NOW, if the 'sodomites' are GAY, why would the men want the daughters?

"Lot lied about his daughters being "virgins" in 19:8. But it was a "just and righteous" lie, intended to make them more attractive to the sex-crazed mob. 19:14"

"Lot and his daughters camp out in a cave for a while. The daughters get their "just and righteous" father drunk, and have sexual intercourse with him, and each conceives and bears a son (wouldn't you know it!). Just another wholesome family values Bible story. 19:30-38"- - that's INCEST, not homosexuality!

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Wed, Aug 15, 2007, at 11:05 PM

YAY..they get tired of the "flamers" yet they keep adding fuel to the fire..can't wait to hit this one in the morning...unfortunately I don't have time to point out the NUMEROUS inacuracies in the above blog tonight, but I will def make time tomorrow, gonna study up on the bible first.

-- Posted by stolen25 on Wed, Aug 15, 2007, at 11:19 PM

Oh that's been my problem all along I have been reading the Bible all these years from the wrong direction. No wonder I was always confused after reading it!!

-- Posted by Dianatn on Wed, Aug 15, 2007, at 11:32 PM

HAHA!! same here Dianatn

Interesting stuff on Noah and Sodom and Gommorah nascarfanatic...

I will have to try reading it backwards next time, maybe I'll understand it.

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Wed, Aug 15, 2007, at 11:36 PM

My definitions were from the Strong's concordance, and their were several meanings, and I didn't think it up, I just found it interesting

-- Posted by michaelbell on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 7:21 AM

I was told the the King James version was the only authorized version because it said so on the front page ,but I read different versions

-- Posted by michaelbell on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 7:25 AM

The King James version is the only version that was authorized "By King James". I, however, am Catholic, so I don't use that particular version. There are so many different "versions" of the Bible out there, that you have basically pick one and hope it's the right one...and the right one for you. Personally, I think we should all learn Aramaic, Greek, Latin, & Hebrew so that someone can put out a Bible in the original texts that requires no one translation and then you can understand for yourself what was written. Unfortunately we're too lazy to learn two dead languages and two that are only used by a handful of the world. At least I know I am.

-- Posted by Thom on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 9:53 AM

There are several great little on line translators out there on the net...here's a good one that tells the meaning of names and their orgin.This is just one of many translators most are free to use some even do entire phrases. Put the name in the search box and it will tell you the Hebrew meaning of the name..none of which that I searched was the meaning Michael had given. Regardless of which version of the Bible you are using Hebrew is Hebrew. This is a problem because this is the way the Bible has changed over the years someone takes the Bible and translates it to mean whatever they wish then they proceed to preach this as truth many people believe what they are saying without even checking for themselves if the translation is correct.

By all Means Please check for yourself the Hebrew meaning of the names Michael Gave.

http://www.zelo.com/firstnames/find.asp

-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 11:16 AM

Listen guys, if you don't like what Michael says stop listening. It's ok to have your opinion and it's ok for him to have his. Leave it at that. There are a few people on here whom I KNOW are using multiple accounts to continually harass this poor man. You are never going to agree with him as I am sure he is never going to agree with you. It's ok to agree to disagree.

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 11:22 AM

yes I am well aware of people and assuming I am also well aware that YOU know exactly who I am talking about with multiple accounts! I am not assuming anything, I KNOW.

"I like to know why people believe what they believe and they have given me reason to look up and search for answers that I had questions to. THAT is a good thing, I have learned MORE by reading his blogs."

It is one thing to ask questions and a completely different thing to attack his beliefs.

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 11:43 AM

to sambntn, yes, I would have to agree with you about the multiple accounts. sadly enough, I thought I knew this person, and I thought we were friends, therefore-it being okay to have a difference in opinion, but I was wrong. revolution, jesuslovesevery1, and darr are all the same person. the facts, because I know they are going to be needed? just take a look at the perfection of his many comments from his many names. I also have to agree with you when you said- "It is one thing to ask questions and a completely different thing to attack his beliefs."

I was told that most of my comments weren't well thought out, well, they are opinions, whethere they be right or wrong to whoever, they are my opinions and beliefs. I was told to stop adding fuel to the fire, when in Micheal's defense, GOD is the fire, and the only fuel people are adding, are that in disbelief. So it is they who will have to stand up against God's wrath and judgement.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 12:16 PM

Thank you weezie84, but how do you know this person is a male?

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 12:22 PM

Yeah weezie it is easy to agree with yourself isn't it?

-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 12:22 PM

perhaps revolution is in fact a girl, darr and jesuslovesevery1 is a guy, because he is on my friends list on myspace. all the same, I do believe there is a strong connection between the three of these names. He did, invite me to this website to began speaking my opinion, and when it turned out that my opinions didn't always meet up to the expectations of his Facts, he stopped talking to me. This isn't high school, but yet, those who wish to sit and continuously attack the opinions of others for the sake of their own last word, for the sake of their last PROVEN FACT, it is alot like high school.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 12:27 PM

Revolution: I just want to say this. I know you think differently and by all means embrace that. However Michael is merely expressing his opinon. This is HIS blog, I know it is open to the entire community but it is his. You know before you click on the link you are going to disagree so why bother?

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 12:30 PM

how silly you are to accuse me, why all a person would have to do is read back through every single comment that I've posted, and then look at the responses from these three names. there is a comment where the REVOLUTION plainly states that I do not think my comments out thoroughly, so why would I get on here and respond one way with comments, then completely state the opposite about myself?

Come on, I thought that one out a little more thorough.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 12:30 PM

Revolution: you have yet to stop barking. But Weezie: I can promise you you will see the association and why those three (btw, you forgot about stolen25) names are closely tied together. take a look at her friends list.

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 12:33 PM

Because they are friends makes them all the same person?

-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 12:36 PM

Dianatn: I said "you will see the association and why those three (btw, you forgot about stolen25) names are closely tied together"

I DID NOT say they are the same person.

That is the main problem here, you take what others say and twist it way out of context to make it mean whatever you would like.

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 12:43 PM

Revolution said "I have learned MORE by reading his blogs. That is what a blog is supossed to do. "

you will never learn anything by shooting down the ideas of another person. It just won't happen. To learn you must shut your mouth and listen.

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 12:47 PM

yes I am well aware of people and assuming I am also well aware that YOU know exactly who I am talking about with multiple accounts! I am not assuming anything, I KNOW.

Did you forget you wrote that?

This is the problem on here people assume way too much!

-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 12:50 PM

I invite you to tell me what I assumed

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 12:52 PM

Oh Yeah Weezie Cancun is a Tourist trap they are there to make money from tourist...so naturally they WANT to communate with you. And Most of the people who work in the resorts in Cancun are American. Go outside the resort areas and see how many people actually speak English.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 12:54 PM

Somewhere through accusation and assumption, we've managed to go from anonymous bloggers, to familarizing ourselves with everyone else. Since I've already introduced Darrick to the world, I'll go ahead and introduce myself-Hi, I'm Amanda Harper, and I'm 22 years old. Sometimes in my own stupidity and error of commenting on blogs, I find it humorous that so many of us continue to waste valuable TV time on battling on the internet. But, for someone like me, with child on the way, it does help with the mood swings and the way my mind seems to wonder off into a pit of nothing. It's really beginning to become humorous.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 12:57 PM

Comments that Amanda Harper (aka Weezie84 and sambntn) left me on my myspace...

HYPOCRISY!!!!!

"I do, honestly and whole heartedly believe that one day all homosexuals will be equal to everyone else-I'm speaking as reference to the women's and black's rights that were faught for. I don't believe that a person should have to fight for their freedom to love another person, which is what "homosexual rights" comes down to. I believe you when you say that you are gay, and I don't doubt or question that. I don't think of you any different than I think of my other friends. And I honestly hope you understand that.

Amanda"

"Yes, I completely understand what you mean about his blogs covering so many different topics. And I understand what you mean about him and the way he feels. That is where he and I disagree, because it seems he believes in EVERYTHING word for word that the bible says, and I don't."

"i do know where micheal lives. it's funny, because before i went to that website, i saw his cross he has in his front yard, and i couldn't understand why someone would put a giant wooden cross with a purple ribbon in their front yard in the middle of a subdivision, but i guess i understand now.

amanda"

"yeah, see, that's what i was trying to say. a person can have faith and action..wait, a person needs action to back up that faith. i think that my comment was just misread or something, ya know? i wasn't trying to tell them that they just needed to rely on faith, i understood what they meant about having action as well. i dont know, the comments get confusing.

amanda"

"hey. i didn't know that's what micheal's beliefs were like. i wasn't agreeing with all of that, just about faith in general. god loves you no matter what your sexual preference is, and people just need to have faith. some people on there are so one sided with their opinions.

amanda"

"on the support gay marriages group page, there's a new world thingy kinda set up like google earth or something, and you can add your pic and a comment. it's kinda cool.

amanda"

"haha, im loving your responses, you go! i think i just posted a comment three times under role models, by accident. i hope they give you your own blog!

amanda"

"i went to the website when you posted that bulletin about tg having a new site, and i pulled up the blogs, but couldn't find a spot to respond or even type. i saw 12 faces that i guess are the top bloggers or whatever, but i'll check it out again and see if i can figure it out.

i support you always.

amanda"

Now, were you supporting me on myspace then contradicting your stances on T-G blogs? BTW: 'sambntn' hmm, that reminds me of weezie84's dog...

I think it's hilarious you called me out, and then you say I haven't talked to you? I wonder why? Cuz I read two different things from the same person. I don't like liars!

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 1:16 PM

valuable TV time? LOL I am not sitting home with nothing else to do I am at work and fortunate enough for me I have the authority to waste as much of my time as I wish.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 1:21 PM

How dare you tell me I am using multiple names... I have quite a friends who are well educated and I invited them to this blog as well as I did you weezie84...

I have nothing against you except that you support me on one site and degrade my stance on another. We can debate like adults, but I have been rather inactive lately, I love all these people trying to teach me how a Christian should be, when you have straight up been a hypocrite!

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 1:23 PM

Tonight when you guys read up on the bible just so you can prove someone wrong and be hateful to each other....Maybe you should read a few scriptures about compassion and love for your fellow man. It wouldn't hurt some of you to study up on the term "humility" either.

-- Posted by saveit on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 1:32 PM

It's funny if you'll read earlier blogs I was telling Michael to share some of the good stories about God's love, compassion, and mercy.. He does that, then has to throw is phrases that start more debate. It's obvious we all like the debate or we'D all stop typing, that's for EVERYONE including ME... but when people don't listen to light-hearted arguments then other means are necessary...

Thanks for your input though.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 1:36 PM

I assure you I do not even so much as know weezie84, and by your opinion it is possible to have friends with like opinions. In this case, she is a stranger with a like opinion. So to tell me that I posted comments on your myspace, my friend, you are terribly wrong.

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:00 PM

okay darrick, what is hypocrisy about any of those comments I posted on your myspace? everything that I stated in the comments on your page, I've said a time or two before on here somewhere in various blogs. I wasn't making fun of micheal for his beliefs, or even the fact that he has a cross in his front yard, I simply wondered why it was someone would put a cross in their front yard, and after reading many of his blogs, I understand it now. Things in which I do not understand come across to me as humorous, but I usually end up finding out the answers. Everything I've said to you about homosexuality is no different than what I've said about it on here-I do support the gay rights, because I believe that every person DESPITE their sexual orientation is equal. However, at the same time, I DO NOT believe that a single person was BORN gay. And as for the way Micheal and I believe, it's obvious that we are on two different levels, because he believes in the majority of what the bible has to say, and I don't. I don't appreciate you pulling all of your comments off of your myspace page in a desperate attempt to try and prove me to be something other than what I am. I don't lie, I don't have a reason to.

I am not this 'sambntn' who continues to post comments on this blog, I wouldn't lie about something so pety. Darrick, I think it is really funny that you seriously tried to use my comments to you against me, but you failed to post the ones you wrote to me. Why is that? I'm not going to be like you and go dig around my comments and pull up everything you've had to say. What is hypocrisy about anything I've said?

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:03 PM

and just like that, you pull what you want from my comments, you read what you want to read. and just like that, because of a difference in opinion you delete me. That's real mature Darrick.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:04 PM

Hey, what I posted on your page was exactly the way I feel on here...

Thanks!

Talk to me over there, if you have something useful to say.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:07 PM

"i went to the website when you posted that bulletin about tg having a new site, and i pulled up the blogs, but couldn't find a spot to respond or even type. i saw 12 faces that i guess are the top bloggers or whatever, but i'll check it out again and see if i can figure it out.

i support you always.

amanda"

Now, were you supporting me on myspace then contradicting your stances on T-G blogs? BTW: 'sambntn' hmm, that reminds me of weezie84's dog...

I think it's hilarious you called me out, and then you say I haven't talked to you? I wonder why? Cuz I read two different things from the same person. I don't like liars!

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 1:16 PM

I felt the need to clarify something...I do support Darrick's sexual orientation. The only liar I see, is someone who is so strongly with DEBATING however, he has deleted every single comment relating to the blogs on this site off of my page. It's funny that he's able to use every comment that I posted on his page, however fails to provide both sides to that story, and deletes all proof of anything he ever said. Somehow, I'm the one who has been the hypocrit here. And blogs weren't set up for debate Darrick, they were set up so the community could voice their opinions.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:19 PM

cry me a river... myspace is still public talk to me...

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:20 PM

Wow, revolution, again, much like Darrick, pull out whatever you wish from my comments. I think I stated last week, that the majority of these blogs' comments, stray away from the topic at hand, but thank you again, for stating the obvious. And one who is already so eager to clarify the things people say, it wasn't I who changed the subject, go back and read the comments. I supported another community blogger's point of view.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:21 PM

opinions without persecution. thank you weezie

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:22 PM

Look who's acting all immature now that I've actually made a "thought-out" comment. Why on this earth would you, Revolution, delete the comments that Darrick posted on MY page? Protect the true liar if you will. He's laid out everything on the table for me, and I have nothing to hide. Amazing, how there is no debate against the truth.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:24 PM

you don't even know me, so what a way to display your judge of charactor there, revolution. still, you have no proof to back up what you say, and I still know everything that he said on MY page. suddenly, he can't speak for himself, this is a first in the blog history.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:31 PM

wow Darrick you really let someone run your life like that?

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:33 PM

I told you where I wanted to talk.. I'm still waiting!

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:34 PM

Nobody runs my life... They just do some assistance work for me...

It's really quite nice.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:35 PM

I've already told you that I am not this other commenter, and I don't lie, so do you have any FACTS to prove this against me? I think I get it as to why you and your friends use FACTS to attack others. In this case, FACTS are all on my side. Come on, we can keep this dispute going for another twenty or so comments, heck, let's break a record.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:35 PM

actually I know alot about the blogs. I even emailed Michael myself to tell him how sorry I was that he isn't allowed to type what he feels.

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:37 PM

omg, what is the topic? I so forgot

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:38 PM

And Darrick, you are the one who deleted me, and your friend, Revolution deleted your comments from MY page. I have no reason to add you back, or her for that matter. Thanks for inviting me to this website though, I now see you for you. You are the first homosexual that I do not like, and it's not because you are a homosexual, it's because I've clearly seen how two-sided YOU can be. Still no FACTS against me?

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:38 PM

I emailed Michael too, funny enough... And HE NEVER RESPONDED!!! But I wasn't the least bit surprised..

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:39 PM

Btw, sambntn, I am living proof that it is possible to disagree with another community blogger (in this case, Micheal and his full beliefs on the bible), but on the same note, agree about certain topics. It's okay to have difference in opinions, it's okay to type what you feel. And I'm proof that although a vast majority of my opinions cannot be backed up with the FACTS that alot of people need to hear, sometimes, people run a number on themselves and they present the truth all by themselves.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:41 PM

Ok, you are speaking to me I am sure, but you seem to have directed this at someone who he talks to on myspace.....that's kind of odd. I also find it odd that you love him more than anything. You have kids. And a heterosexual husband. In case you haven't noticed HE LIKES BOYS. He has no interest in being the love of your life.

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:42 PM

WOW... I am still confused.. LOL.. I am gonna go to darrick_04's myspace to see who this kid really is... UGH, I am so lost..

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:42 PM

Hey Revolution, again, it was Darrick who so kindly displayed all of my comments from his page on here, and neither of you have yet to speak out about against this accusation of hypocrisy! However, when the table is turned, he cannot prove to a single person on here that his comments on my page were in fact the same of those on here, YOU simply deleted them. You claim it's because of the horrible two faced person I am, but as I've said before, he laid everything I had to say out on the table. Where are you facts?

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:44 PM

It's funny, but I wonder if that comment he left on your page a while back about adding another name to the t-g website is still on there? If I could only access his page, then the FACTS and proof are there.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:47 PM

Wow, seems like everyone is interested in me...

Btw, I'm still waiting for this discussion on the other site.

Thanks Michael for these blogs, they have been very enlightening and have encouraged me to love God more than ever!

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:47 PM

so you plan on picking apart which of my comments to prove me wrong? because the only thing I question against you and Darrick is to why you deleted his comments off my page the very second I posted a comment about NOT using those against him in which he did try to use my comments against me to prove a useless point of hypocrisy? Why am I still unable to get the FACTS about this?

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:48 PM

Lol, yup I was going to add another name on here, but I figured why bother? And the only reason I was going to do that is because I did not want my family to be involved in any of these things...

And the people who really know me, know my family and it isn't fair for me to drag them into this, or tarnish any of their images, based on my beliefs. Thanks for stating the obvious! I don't have as much time on my hands as you think...

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:50 PM

I'm right, and you both know it, and I won't back down, I don't care how high the comments go to prove my point. A complete stranger could walk into this blog and tell the very both of you that I am right. I just really wish you would have left his comments alone, because I really could use them to back up my statements...but you had to have had a really good reason other than the fact that you can't stand me, a complete stranger, to erase them right?

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:50 PM

weezie, it's because there are no facts. merely opinions. so like I said in my email to Michael this is the point we agree to disagree. I commend you for stepping you when you did and stepping down when it is appropriate.

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:52 PM

Actually I have deleted a lot of people from myspace just because I can't stand them..

-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:53 PM

Looks like nobody is stepping down, or are can you not read?

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:53 PM

thank you sambntn. it's been just about 20 comments ago that I should have stepped down, right? you are correct, and I know I don't need to keep demanding facts. I'll let it go.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:55 PM

Darrick: I was telling weezie what I told michael.

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:56 PM

Ttyl ya'll..

NO facts here... 'Mission Accomplished'

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:56 PM

God put a miracle inside of me, for a reason, for you to slander at that as an attempt to whatever you're trying to do, is wrong. But you won't need me to tell you that. Words are words, and I'm glad they don't hurt my feelings.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 2:57 PM

Let's just hope it isn't 'born gay'

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 3:01 PM

stop it! she said she was done. Leave it be.

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 3:02 PM

I'm praying that it isn't... Heaven forbid your child is gay, and grows up to tell you that.

Even though you support gay rights, there's no possible way your kid could be born that way, they had to have 'learned' that behavior or had some kind of early social interactions that made them that way.

Like I said, I am praying and have faith that your child will be normal, by normal I mean straight!

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 3:03 PM

Well you accomplished what you set out to do, weezie you got this blog to 90 comments..the only problem is, only about 5 of them have anything at all to do with the Blog. Congratulations...

-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 3:15 PM

I know.. I am still lost as ever :(

Somebody thinks I am revolution and darrick_04.. (who are those people?)

Haha if you go to darrick_04's myspace, he has a nice default pic though! Wonder who it is

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 3:21 PM

OMG, and I reread the original blog that started all this.. How does one read the bible backwards? Geez, i can barely read it the normal way...

Are there bible sessions called "Backwards Bible Readers"? I seriously wanna know!

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 3:22 PM

"I know that he IS NOT jesuslovesevery1 becasue it is my MOM, and she is defienetly not a BOY!!" this cane from revolution. funny, that is how you don't know her. And how exactly did you find darrick's myspace page? hmmmmmm, fishy fishy fishy

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 3:26 PM

sambntn weren't you the very one that said Leave it alone then YOU come back here to start it all over again?

-- Posted by Dianatn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 3:30 PM

hey sam, like you said to micheal, and I took your advice, we should just back down. it won't end, they will fight for the last word. I just hope that micheal didn't take offense to the comments that I did leave on Darrick's page. I didn't tell a soul except for his(micheal's) neighbors that I know where he lives. try and have a good rest of the day and resist the temptation that wants to keep bringing you to this blog.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 3:30 PM

fishy fishy darrick... you got some haters

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 3:32 PM

weezie, you're right. I will leave it alone now we have proven our points.

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 3:35 PM

NOT THE WORDS BACKWARDS BUT BACKWARDS BY CHAPTERS

-- Posted by michaelbell on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 3:37 PM

Michael, I am so sorry for this conversation getting so off course. My deepest apologies. I have never heard of reading that particular part backwards by chapter but I will tonight. That is amazing.

-- Posted by sambntn on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 3:45 PM

I WILL READ IT TOO!!!!

So tell me, why is reading these particular verses backwards important? Do we read each chapter backwards or just this one?

It just does not make sense to read things backwards, I'm not saying YOU, Michael don't make sense, I'm saying in general it doesn't make sense...

But you know what is amazing? Muslims and other Arabic people read from right to left... Or do they? A little odd.

Thanks for your info Michael. ;)

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 3:50 PM

Well I certainly have missed alot on here while I was gone. I came to read a blog and found only a few comments about said blog.....it strayed so far off course that I don't know even where to begin. First of all, I had NO CLUE that you had to read the chapter BACKWARRDS to understand the chapter, could be what has led to all my confusion. I will try that and see if I get any less confused. and as for all those talking about Revolution and jesuslovesevery1. I didn't, until just a second ago when I got a phone call realize my sister was Revolution and jesuslovesevery1 was our mom. So it is possible for people to be on here and NOT know who is who. And as for finding Darrick's myspace. well that is very easy since he has his name on here, you can type in Darrick for so many miles within the area and there really aren't that many. and you can just go to Revolution's myspace and since you so kindly gave us the initial yet uncorrect spelling of Darrick's last name it wasn't hard to find his myspace page.....gee, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out how to find people.

I found you too weezie84....if have nothing to hide, then open up your page.

-- Posted by Vindicated on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 4:01 PM

at the request of someone other than yourself, vindicated, my page is now open for all to view.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fus...

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 4:05 PM

Uh as far as I can see I am the ONLY one that requested you open up your myspace..now if we could only get sambntn to open up theirs or atleast be honest as to who they are.

-- Posted by Vindicated on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 4:32 PM

your eyes see only what they want to, who ever said I was referring to the people on here that asked me to open my page up?

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 5:03 PM

I might as well talk to a brick wall...I would get a better response from that.

"at the request of someone other than yourself, vindicated, my page is now open for all to view."

SINCE YOU POSTED THAT ON HERE..IT SEEMED TO ME THAT YOU MEANT SOMEONE ON HERE..PERHAPS YOU SHOULD HAVE SPECIFIED BECAUSE MY EYES JUST BELIEVE WHAT YOU POSTED......OMG I AM SOOOO BEYOND DONE WITH YOU..GROW UP AND GOD HELP YOUR BABY IF YOU ARE THIS IMMATURE IN REAL LIFE.

-- Posted by Vindicated on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 5:06 PM

well, vindicated, i'm just gonna keep my opinions on all of this, to myself, for the sake of another 100 comments...i didnt know that i had to clarify with you every single sentence that comes out of my mouth. i dont live in this blog world, you see, therefore please imagine others out there, other than this blog in itself that had requested i take my profile off of private. okay, do you get it now?

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 5:10 PM

DONE DONE AND MORE DONE.....just crawl in a hole with your weed and be gone. thanks.

-- Posted by Vindicated on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 5:15 PM

well I had some questions I wanted to ask Michael about the backwards reading, which makes sense to me now that I have started to do so, but looks like my comments will get lost in the shuffle of all the bull that got thrown on here. I will just e-mail Michael when a question arises. Thank you for posting the blog, I found it very interesting.

-- Posted by stolen25 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 5:21 PM

you know, I meant to comment on the blog a LONG time ago, letting him know that I had heard about reading the chapters of genesis backwards, from my cousin. My cousin, a little over a year ago, changed his ways in life and the outlook of religion and the bible, and started reading it daily. He was the one who first told me about this.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 5:23 PM

well if that was the case you wouldn't have let it gotten as far as you did with all the accusations you threw around. I am glad you got your "point" across whatever it was , but thank you for ruining the blog that would have made for an interesting discussion. Like I said, as far as any questions I have, I will email Michael myself.

-- Posted by stolen25 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 5:26 PM

I was asked to delete a comment which identified someone by last name who had not chosen to identify himself that way, and I identified a couple of other potentially-offensive comments which I deleted as well.

This is a forum for talking about issues, not for personal attacks. Let's cool things down a little bit.

-- Posted by Jicarney on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 8:38 PM

Actually, looking back, I only deleted two comments -- the one which included the last name and one other comment.

-- Posted by Jicarney on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 8:51 PM

Yes I noticed that people were debating and then people's names were being brought into it. Thank you for your quick response and I agree with you, this should cool down a little bit. I came here and this was actually an interesting blog and I found my name accused of things and I wasn't even a part of the initial discussion. Perhaps you need to write a "rule book for commenting on the blogs" I enjoy a good debate as much as the other but I must admit the personal attacks that I read on here were just unneccesary.

-- Posted by stolen25 on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 8:54 PM

Yes a set of rules may be needed. The current system that allows anyone to flag offensive messages is fair and effective. I would hate for this forum to go away due to the actions of a few people.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Aug 16, 2007, at 9:03 PM

I will take full blame for this blog getting completely off topic and out of hand. And I'll apologize to those that I named openly, to the public. From now on, I'll stick to the topic at hand and comment my opinion.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Fri, Aug 17, 2007, at 10:40 AM

Because my mouth and anger again got the best of me, and I wouldn't shut up when it was necessary.

-- Posted by weezie84 on Fri, Aug 17, 2007, at 1:05 PM

You're right Revolution, I did take this completely off topic. As I have already apologized to Michael for doing so. It was not my intention, I guess it was just my reaction to the attacks (or what I felt was an attack) to the beliefs and lifestyle of another person. I am sorry.

-- Posted by sambntn on Fri, Aug 17, 2007, at 2:56 PM


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