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I'M OFFENDED!

Posted Sunday, September 9, 2007, at 9:23 PM
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It seems to me that this phrase or the one that says "What you just said is not politically correct" Don't get me wrong words can be very harmful because lifelong opinions are formed by them. People have taken this way to far here lately.

I have learned that in the workplace that if two people are talking about a subject that they might hold dear or find funny ,and somebody walks by and overhears it and gets offended that the two people talking could be written up.

A couple of years ago me and a co-worker were discussing Nascar ,and he happened to be a local driver himself. The topic all of the ads on cars come up and I can't remember the driver's name ,but one of his sponsors was Viagra and a couple of jokes were made and a lady overheard us and we were in the office in no time with personnel and a write up.

Just this past week ,me and a very close friend who always take lunch together at our usual location discussing all the kind of churches around here and where he had moved from. The comment was made that church is like Baskin Robbins ice cream any flavor you can imagine exist.

You have churches who still teach dress codes, music styles , lifestyles,

and yes though it is hard to believe ,but some churches still teach separation of the races. My friend asked me what I meant and I responded that some churches teach that when it comes to marriage each race should keep to his own and that if they don't their offspring will be unaccepted not only by man but by God also which the second part is so untrue. Somebody overheard us and went and told somebody else who happens to be black and he got offended and took it as we said thay all blacks were cusrsed which was never said.

I got a news story from a friend that a school had given the assignment to their kindergarden class to bring their favorite book and a parent to read their favorite excerpt from it to the class after several books this child brought his mom and his BIBLE up and she started to read and the teacher stopped her and said that she could not read from the BIBLE because it might offend somebody. She was told to read from a book on witchcraft or Halloween instead.

It seems like anything anybody says or does might, will or has already offended somebody. When it comes to my values and what I believe in anybody can say anything towards them and I could care less because I would rather be Biblically correct and Morally correct than Politically correct because as long as it is done with the love of Christ then I am not at fault. As long as he is not offended by me I feel no guilt.

It was asked of me what will I do if and when they make talking against some lifestyles a "hate crime" even in the Churches I responded with I suppose I will be making the same comments from jail.

I live to please God and that is my only goal in life and if man gets offended so be it.

Churches are guilty of trying to dictate every persons facet of life saying you can't go here or there, you can't dress this way or that way or all kind of other things . Every rule for a Christian's lifestyle is in the Bible. No one can follow it to a tee ,some do more than others and the others get offended by that lifestyle.

We all will answer to God for the things we do here and don't do here on Earth. If people get offended by my Christian values and conversations and turn me in then I guess I could be offended by the dirty jokes, stories of sexual conquest, and all the foul language that comes out of their mouths, and part of them claim to be Christan's that really offends me.

I guess the monk's vow of silence is the way to go ,but because they don't talk to anybody that would be offensive to some. Be Blessed !

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Only thing I want to say... THANK GOD you have figured out how to seperate your thoughts into paragraphs...

If we could only work on it making sense!

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Sun, Sep 9, 2007, at 9:48 PM

Michael, political correctness is antithetical to the First Amendment of the Constitution. When we allow anyone to censor what we say, then we are allowing them to shred the most important document in our national history. As much as I hate to say that I agree with them, even the ACLU agrees that offensive speech is protected under the First Amendment.

-- Posted by Thom on Sun, Sep 9, 2007, at 9:48 PM

And it sucks, it's hard to agree with a group (ACLU) who would be there for you, if you ever asked them to...

I have never in my life heard of a THIRD GRADER being told to bring in a book... so they bring in a Bible, then the teacher says "read from a book on Witchcraft or Halloween"? WHO ARE YOU KIDDING?!?!

If the TOPIC was about Halloween, and she brought the Bible in, then it would have been a very relevant thing to tell them. You are beyond belief with your stories you conjure up in order to prove a point. If you would simply get to it, without making up 'LUDICROUS' stories, it would make so much more sense.

And it is funny how all these experiences stem from your "workplace".. Why do you think it's any of your business anyways to tell a black man he can't marry a white woman (because you didn't say the FIRST PART wasn't true) You are the a Christian, correct, and to my 'KNOWLEDGE' Christian's had a belief that when God creates humans, he doesn't see their color. I don't see how you thinking you know who are and who aren't doing what God wants, is playing God, anymore than a scientists who wishes to simply answer questions...

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Sun, Sep 9, 2007, at 9:59 PM

WHERE in the world did a school suggest that you read witchcraft or Halloween instead of the bible and it's common knowledge that you can't bring ANY religion into the classroom so that parent was wrong in the first place. Sorry, but she should have known better.

and you think each race should keep to his own? Since Nascar so kindly pointed out, you didn't state the first part wasn't true. Please PLEASE do what you so best and recite the scriptures that say that races shouldn't mix.

And if we did follow every thing the bible told us to do, we would be having 10 times the murders that we have now, that is the biggest advocate of murder in the world....HANDS DOWN! But, it would rid me of the constant nagging for the new Playstation because I could just stone my kid for disobeying and be done with it ;)(NOT THAT I WOULD HURT MY CHILD IN ANY WAY!!)

I am glad that we have the ACLU to protect our rights.

And if you were making jokes about Viagra you, my dear, are just as guilty for making sexual/dirty jokes as the next person

-- Posted by stolen25 on Sun, Sep 9, 2007, at 10:09 PM

OOOOOH. Hypocrite I see???

"The topic all of the ads on cars come up and I can't remember the driver's name ,but one of his sponsors was Viagra and a couple of jokes were made and a lady overheard us and we were in the office in no time with personnel and a write up."

THEN.. AT THE END...

" We all will answer to God for the things we do here and don't do here on Earth. If people get offended by my Christian values and conversations and turn me in then I guess I could be offended by the dirty jokes, stories of sexual conquest, and all the foul language that comes out of their mouths, and part of them claim to be Christan's that really offends me."

This lady was turning you in, for the very thing YOU say shouldn't be coming for other people's mouths. HAHAHAHA

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Sun, Sep 9, 2007, at 10:25 PM

Yeah, Stolen25's kind of got a point there. I can't think of any joke that would even remotely relate to Viagra that wouldn't be offensive to someone. Still, you've got a right to tell these jokes, just like those that offend you have a right to say what they want. The ACLU may have the right idea when it comes to the freedom of speech, but I think they're dead wrong on the religion thing. It's freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.

-- Posted by Thom on Sun, Sep 9, 2007, at 10:26 PM

He has a right to tell those jokes, so long as he doesn't say "God's gonna judge what comes out of THEIR mouths"...

The Constitution, says nothing about being hypocritical, unfortunately.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Sun, Sep 9, 2007, at 10:39 PM

True enough, there is absolutely nothing in the Constitution about hypocrisy...but I believe there's bound to be something in the Bible about that...although I don't claim to be anywhere near an expert on that. Maybe there's someone in the blogs that does know quite a bit more about the Bible than I do that could enlighten us.

-- Posted by Thom on Sun, Sep 9, 2007, at 10:57 PM

I never said that I was against bi-racial marraiges . I said that some people were based on what the Bible says about bringing forth after your own kind . I have no problem with it.

The jokes on Viagra were not dirty jokes either.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 7:30 AM

In one Pennsylvania public school, reading from the Bible is forbidden -- but reading about witches and Halloween is encouraged.

Hear this Report

Wesley Busch is a kindergarten student at Culbertson Elementary School in Newton Square, Pennsylvania -- and all he wanted to do was have his mother read aloud from his favorite book, the Bible. The book reading was part of a classroom assignment called "All About Me," the purpose of which was to provide students an opportunity to identify individual interests and learn about each other through the use of items such as stuffed animals, posters, books and other mediums.

Jeremy Tedesco, legal counsel with the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF), says the school district had a big problem with Wesley's favorite book. "When Wesley told his mom 'I want you to read the Bible, that's my favorite book,' the school said no -- even though they let every other book reading go forward," the attorney explains. "And even though they told Mrs. Busch 'no, you can't read the Bible,' [they said] 'but here, read this book on witches and Halloween instead,'" says Tedesco.

In May, a federal court sided with the school and the case is now on appeal. Tedesco says public school officials need to understand that Christian students cannot be treated as second-class citizens.

"The lower court's decision said that it was okay to restrict the Bible. But the bottom line is that Christian students and their parents aren't second-class citizens at school, and shouldn't be discriminated against based on their religious speech that they want to engage in when they're invited to engage in private expression," he says.

According to ADF, although reading from the Bible was forbidden the teacher allowed another parent to discuss the Jewish religious holidays of Passover and Hanukkah with the class.

It was kindergarden ,I was wrong on that and she may of not walked out ,but it happened. A nd you say that Christians rights are being treaded on ,I beg to differ.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 7:36 AM

MY ENTRY WAS CORRECTED.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 7:38 AM

If you are so disgusted with the "Christian Right Wing" and their comments ,why do all of you spend so much time reading it? If you had a blog ,which you don't , and you wrote stuff that was of no liking of mine I would not waste my time reading it.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 7:44 AM

I have a friend who works for the AFA , He keeps mi informed of the attacks on the American Family and the attacks on the Christians

-- Posted by michaelbell on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 7:46 AM

supposed to be me , not mi , sorry

-- Posted by michaelbell on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 7:47 AM

Don't get frazzled, Michael. If many people would take time to read indepth the points you are trying to make, instead of eyeing key words such as "marriage, mixed race", and "Viagra, dirty jokes", then I'm sure they would understand that you are making a point that "political correctness" doesn't necessarily apply to everyone, especially Christians. Society and the rest of the world is trying to eradicate the Christian and his/her values. This was prophecized in many books of the Bible, and the prophecy lives on.

As for the First Amendment... yes, we have the right to say whatever we think. Should we? That's up to one's discretion, I suppose. On the other hand, we also have the unwritten right to turn a deaf ear to those unintelligent and offensive comments, such as dirty jokes and other people's opinions. It takes alot of offend me to the point of getting upset over it. If I see or hear something obscene, I just remember Christ's own words, "Father, forgive them. They know not what they do." Then, I excuse myself from the situation, either by walking away, or if the material is on television... simply turn it off.

I do believe there should be some kind of Christian courses offered in Public Schools, if only as an elective course. This should be up to the parents to decide if they wish their childeren to be involved. I would pay an extra fee for my child if such classes were offered.

Now, to those who think Michael's comments were condemming mixed racial marriages and relationships, and the childeren who are result of such, please go back and re-read that entire segment. He did not express his personal views. He was only discussing how many churches preach against mixing of the races. Yes, many - but not all- churches believe "each to his own kind". Whether you believe in this or not is your own to choose.

Well, that's my penny and a half.

-- Posted by craftin_mom on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 8:56 AM

Thank you craftin mom, that is much appreciated. It needed to be said and you had the patience this morning to type it out, unlike myself.

-- Posted by sambntn on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 9:05 AM

Lets keep Baskin-Robbins out of this. I agree they have any flavor you ever want, especially ranbow sherbert. But dont get me wrong, just cause I like ranbow sherbert doesnt make me a good christian conservative Shelbyville resident with good values!

-- Posted by johnmoore on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 10:07 AM

Clean Viagra Joke #1

The car is too hard to steer.

Clean Viagra Joke #2:

At least I don't have bugs in my teeth like Smiling Bob.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 11:04 AM

Let's face it, some people will only see what they want to, read what they want to and hear what they want to in order to make someone else look bad to make up for their own short comings.

-- Posted by sambntn on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 11:12 AM

Revolution, try American Family News Network.....looks like a good place to start.

-- Posted by sambntn on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 11:13 AM

Who is the author of the article about the Pennsylvania school and what NEWSPAPER did it come out of? I would like to read if for myself. Thanks!

-- Posted by Revolution on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 9:28 AM

That is the question you asked and here is my answer again.....

Revolution, try American Family News Network.....looks like a good place to start.

-- Posted by sambntn on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 11:13 AM

-- Posted by sambntn on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 1:05 PM

I have been reading some of the blogs for the past few weeks just to get an sense of how ideas are exchanged locally.

Seems like the same lack of charity prevails here as in other blog communities I have visited. Many responders to Michael's comments seem to go out of their way to find fault. If they would read his comments carefully and without any preconceptions about his "hypocrisy" they might not find so much to get riled about. Also, not everyone has a perfect command of the written English language, but I will take a sincere attempt to communicate over an attempt to denigrate someone's ideas any day.

Maybe some of the participants here should check their own "hypocrisy index" before they start up on anyone else.

-- Posted by devan on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 1:25 PM

I have been reading some of the blogs for the past few weeks just to get an sense of how ideas are exchanged locally.

Maybe some of the participants here should check their own "hypocrisy index" before they start up on anyone else.

-- Posted by devan on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 1:25 PM

Right on!

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 1:38 PM

It was the AFA ,And does it matter that it is from a Christian perspective ,it is still news.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 2:45 PM

It was the AFA ,And does it matter that it is from a Christian perspective ,it is still news.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 2:45 PM

It may matter to Revolution since she is Jewish and Mr. Wildmon the chairman of the AFA is an anti Semite.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 3:27 PM

I got ten bucks that says Mr. Wildmon didn't write it though. I'm sure if it made one headline it made a few though, try googling it.

-- Posted by sambntn on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 3:42 PM

Try this link. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTI...

-- Posted by devan on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 4:17 PM

Michael,

I appreciate your blog. Christians are to be BOLD in their faith despite what others may say.

I was absolutely floored by the first few comments after reading your initial blog. I'm just surprised at how hateful people can be.

You keep doing/saying what you feel in your heart and I'll keep reading.

-- Posted by saveit on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 11:00 PM

Or simply "saveit"... I don't get how anyone just so joyously loves to listen to how he told Viagra jokes, believes God cares about mixing races, and a kid being told to bring in witchcraft to school, and honestly believe this crap.

Just like the AIDS needles under a gas pump handle that you told everyone about, which isn't true.. It was no more true than the story about the bible not allowed and witchcraft recommended instead. CRAZY...

-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Mon, Sep 10, 2007, at 11:39 PM

To the last comment .you use the name you do and it is true. Jesus does love everyone ,but through the years sermons have gotten soft on the judging side of Jesus.

The Viagra jokes were not dirty and they were told years ago, BEFORE I got rededicated to my faith.

The news story on the BIBLE in school was and is true.

Like I said earlier I have no problem with mixing races, BUT SOME CHURCHES AND SOME BELIEFS STILL DO. I have different races in my family and have no problem with it. My circle of friends has several bi-racial couples and we all get along fine.

I take full credit for the AIDS and gas needles story, and I am sorry. In this day and age I would not put it past anybody.

Most people choose a name that describes their character. In your case you better read up on the kind of sins that won't inherit the KINGDOM OF GOD AND CHECK YOURSELF! I forgive because the Bible says I must or I won't be forgiven.

If there was more HELLFIRE AND BRIMSTONE preaching instead of all this cotton candy and fuzzy duck crap that is out there today , more people would be on their knees praying instead of playing church.

I am not perfect or righteous by any means of my own doing , but by the BAPTISM ,DEATH AND RESSURECTION of JESUS CHRIST I will be in God's eyes.

To all my Christian readers who enjoy my rants and raves, I will keep it up. T he turning of one person back to Jesus will all be worth it.

BE BLESSED AND BE A BLESSING!!

-- Posted by michaelbell on Tue, Sep 11, 2007, at 7:46 AM

thank you michael.

-- Posted by sambntn on Tue, Sep 11, 2007, at 9:29 AM

I think we should just let Jesus judge us when the times comes and quit trying to do it for Him. It doesn't help His cause, as I have discovered.

I remember my granny telling me I was going to the "bad place" if I didn't start wearing skirts or dresses, not want to wear make-up or jewelry, quit styling my hair (which she had done regularly, oh, but hers was for church) and just basically just stop being me and I might make it to heaven some day.

Back then, they didn't know any better.

Can it be that WE still don't, but about different lifestyle choices?

Keep it up michaelbell. I love to read the responses.

-- Posted by countrymom on Tue, Sep 11, 2007, at 12:36 PM

As a woman Im not easily offended. However if I approach a conversation I may be offended by I walk away! Its as simple as that, mind your own business and walk away. If YOU are approached/singled out on a personal level that's different. I accept the fact that there are many religious beliefs. I wont cram mine down your throat, don't cram yours down mine! I have willingly listened to other beliefs and points made.

As for the book at school... Good thing it wasn't my child!

-- Posted by Disgusted on Tue, Sep 11, 2007, at 3:23 PM

I am not forcing my own personal beliefs on anybody as far as hair, dress, music, or what kind of entertainment you watch [unless it is porn]

There are some obvious things that if a Christian does or support I might question.

W e all need a good cleaning up of ourselves and the only one to do that is Jesus himself.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Tue, Sep 11, 2007, at 4:03 PM

If I were a teacher I would have to take a chance on loosing my job before I would tell a child they could'nt read from the bible. Since she was so insistant on a Witchcraft or Halloween book, I guess it would have been OK if it had been a Satanic bible???

-- Posted by Disgusted on Wed, Sep 12, 2007, at 8:49 AM

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