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Imagine If This is Passed.Posted Tuesday, December 4, 2007, at 9:46 PM
Got a hold of this news story thought some of you might like to read it. What's next? trying to tell churches what they can or can't preach or making it against the law to force your kids to go to church ,or to witness to people. I just wonder how much longer God is going to put up with this. Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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It is hard for me to understand someone being passionate about believing in nothing.
Some people have entirely too much time on their hands. If it bothers you that the dollar bill has "in God we trust" use a check card. If it just really bugs you that "One nation under God," is in the pledge then by all means, feel free not to recite it.
On another note, it bothered someone to hear "Merry Christmas", well guess what..."Happy Holidays" bugs the crap outta me. So stop saying it. IT IS CHRISTMAS, if you don't want to celebrate Christmas then step to the side but it IS Christmas.
I absolutely agree LauraSFT.
Steve,
It's not that he is passionate about believing in nothing he, like many others, is passionate about keeping the pot stirred so the smell lingers in the air.
Think about the shoe being on the other foot for a bit.
If some Christians can get so bent out of shape over 'Happy Holidays' because it *includes* Thanksgiving, Kwanza,Yule, Hanukah and our New Year's Day (not to mention Boxing Day and Monkey Day),think of how they'd feel if their belief system was excluded in favor of something they had no allegiance to at all.
Isn't that what they're afraid of when they object to the unChristian aspects of Easter and Halloween?
Who wouldn't have nightmares about their ideology being erased or replaced by something they'd find false and repellent?
It all goes back to the freedom of belief we claimed for ourselves as Americans.
We even declared those rights to be endowed by a loving God who insists on our having free will.
We have been given liberty and reason that we might make decisions for ourselves.
We have to have the option to believe nothing until we can offer a sound mind and a dedicated heart.
Whenever a law,culture or family refuses to let people examine the facts and come to their own conclusions,then they are trashing not only the ideas they claim to cherish but the people they'd like to embrace those beliefs.
Sure,this protest might seem silly and akin to someone objecting to Coke's name being on a stadium when they prefer Pepsi or have qualms about carbonated beverages,but neither the majority nor the minority has permission to dismiss the sincerely held views of others.
We must recognize and respect the people with whom we disagree or we forfeit the right to be respected ourselves.
Our political party,form of worship or other life choices could be the next ones to be ignored or attacked.
I worry less about the presence or absence of "institionalized" images and notions than I do whether we know what we believe in and act on it as individuals.
If we can believe in something worthwhile because its truths have touched our hearts rather than follow the herd,then we can influence our environment instead of letting it dictate to us.
Sometimes,I thank God for atheists because they make me think about who I have faith in and why.
Maybe they haven't found God yet.
Maybe they're rejecting corrupt illusions so thoroughly that some reality's gotten tossed out in the process.
Maybe they've made a thorough,objective examination of the available information and have found nothing to convince them that the traditional "Guy in the Sky" is any worthier of their devotion than Zeus or the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
But,as I ask just who these non-believers are and what we owe them,I have to look at the ideas that have defined me (secular and non-secular) and ask which are valid,which I acquired by osmosis (rather than conviction) and which I would not only die for but live by.
I'm not sure how much public accommodation there should be to the individual or how much we should honor "the right to be wrong" but I know that even the soundest truths and noblest deeds are undermined when forced upon people and the best way to proselytize and prove one's loyalty is to let one's beliefs demonstrate a more efficient,honorable way of life.
Let our country and ourselves show whether we trust in God and ally with Him and we won't need slogans,holidays or tokens to prove it.
Just curious, but does NOT having "In God we Trust" on ATM cards, credit cards, money orders, check cards and debit cards keep you from using them? I THINK NOT!! and Happy Holidays, to me, covers Christmas and New Year's, I am not offended by it, but I think that we also have to be mindful of those that are Jewish, buddhist etc. that celebrate the holidays differently. So by saying Happy Holidays you are covering what every one may or may not believe in without leaving them out because they do believe differently. Michael just can't stir up enough crap. Sadly it's people like him that think they are doing good, that do the exact opposite and turn people off from religion and he is too blind to see it.
JMO.
Happy Holidays does not get me "bent out of shape" b/c it includes New Years and Thanksgiving. What bothers me is the lack of Christmas.
Just curious, but does NOT having "In God we Trust" on ATM cards, credit cards, money orders, check cards and debit cards keep you from using them?
-Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Wed, Dec 5, 2007, at 2:36 PM
If it did could we change that? I THINK NOT!!!!
Our political party,form of worship or other life choices could be the next ones to be ignored or attacked.
-- Posted by quantumcat on Wed, Dec 5, 2007, at 2:31 PM
I think the point Michael is making is that his form of worship is being attacked, therefore this is coming from the horses mouth!
You can call the holidays whatever you want Jesus was not born on Christmas anyway.
I guess the line is drawn ,you say I keep it stirred up well you ain't seen nothing yet.
You fight for whatever kind of country you want and I 'll fight for mine.
You be politically corecct and I'll be Biblically correct and we'll see who goes further.
I guess that depends on where your treasures and goals are mine are for heaven above!
I am not trying to put"religion" on anybody I don't even like the word .
All I am trying to do is to show how people and companies and even the supreme court doing small things like these can lead to major things.
In these days people get in trouble for racial remarks or sexual identity comments or comments against gays .
Nothing can be said or done because it might offend someone , well this stuff offends me I want my kids to know of this countries Christian heritage.
I want them to know that there is something more than this life on earth and for them to not be afraid to express it.
If there was a movie based on killing Mohammad or Buddha or whatever other Spiritual leaders there is there would be all kinds of flack over it.
What if a movie portrayed the homosexuals in a bad sense they would get mad.
No matter what your way of thinking you are going to offend somebody, if you spank your kid or spank your pet or wear some questionable slogan on a shirt.
We all will fight for our beliefs and mine are in God and his Son Jesus Christ and what he did at Calvary and we will keep butting heads I guess, but like several Christian people I know I am not or will never back down.
In closing I pray for everybody to see the light and come to their senses that America has slipped off its pedestal as being a country blessed by God or "one nation under God"
The immoral path that she has taken is not mine but hers for I am going through the narrow gate which leads to heaven while she is taking the wide.
Why does it matter if the currency has any reference to god? And I'm sorry, but this nation isn't "one nation under god".... that's just the fairytale you believe in.
I believe in god, I think he is an amazing spirtual guidance, and is the reason for existence. But I don't think it's necessary to get upset about In God We Trust no longer being on the money. After all, like I said in the other blog you rambled on, I told you that 60% of all "U.S. Dollars" circulate in OTHER countries, and do you ever stop to ask yourself, well dang my debit card, credit card, checks, money orders etc, have never said in God We Trust, but I never stop using them...
Like I said, please complain about something that matters. The guy who wants the label off of his currency is no more ridiculous than those who care if its on there. It makes no difference in how we spend it, where we spend it, or why we spend it...
Our spending might send a much clearer message than what's printed on our currency.
Think of the ladies who are putting love back into the season with their "alternative" Christmas.
Think of Michael's trip to the Appalachias and what Cheryl's furry buddies would say should the animals gain human speech at midnight of Christmas Day.
As much as it might hurt to think that some group wants to forget about who we are and what we think,shouldn't our focus be on what our beliefs mean rather than who agrees with those beliefs?
We can use our spoken words,written material and emblems to spread the truth or we can concentrate on so living our faith that it couldn't be denied or concealed anyway.
Let the world do what it will with the baby in the manger or the empty tomb.
The best and,perhaps,only account of Christianity or any other creed is what manifests in the lives of its followers.
If the "official" adherence to a way of life isn't backed up by deeds,then what significance does it have?
If a people's actions speak for themselves,what words-or what silence-can be imposed that would negate the evidence of what those people are really,truly about?
I think what a lot of us are concerned with is not so much that it takes away from our faith, but that it is a step closer to taking away our right to freedom of religion. Are we going to end up as a nation under no God?
Freedom of religion has nothing to do with the Dollar Bill... Everyone can spend regardless of religion, sex, race, ethnicity, etc. That's a very moot point.
The more taken away, the closer to freedom of religion being taken away. My understanding is that the reason for the words being taken out is because an atheist/agnostic is pushing it.
Not sure why you are concerned about what is printed on a Dollar bill or Coin more important then the Word of God, seems a tad hypocritical to worry about secular items like money and wealth.
Gotta love those so-called Christian priorities.
I am not partiularly concerned about what is printed on money.
I am concerned that an atheist is using his "freedom of speech" as an excuse to infringe on my "freedom of speech and religion" to say the name of God in the pledge.
After he accomplishes this goal, then he will start on another excuse to take away my "freedom of speech and religion"
I'll just say this... when taking an oath to office senators, presidents, and other members of public office do one thing...
THEY PLACE THEIR HAND ON THE BIBLE AND SWEAR TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION, THEY DO NOT PUT THEIR HAND AND THE CONSTITUTION AND SWEAR TO UPHOLD THE BIBLE!