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Most teachers of the Bible say that Gen chp1 is a prefaces or a overview and chapter two is a more in detail .
Some say that chapter one is the creation of the nations and chapter two is the creation of the Jewish race which would bring forth Christ.
I have heard it taught that Adam's first wife was Lilith and because she would not submit to Adam [for she was created at the same time as Adam] she was banished from the garden and some Jewish sects still wear amulets to protect their newborns from her spirit which is called a succubus.
She is blamed for bringing young boys dreams which cause nocturnal emissions which there is a law against in the Bible.
The number of God's depend on whether you believe in the Trinity as the Catholic church teaches it or as some believe that God and Jesus are separate individuals.
Childbearing is not sinful I have read that the punishment for Eve's sin was that instead of a twice a year cycle it became every month.
Some have taught that in the beginning people were supposed to speak life into existence the same way God did.
For all the pain that childbearing brings the first sound of crying wipes it away [or so I have been told]
God created the earth and told man to partake of everything the God planted a garden and placed Adam in it and said except for the TREE OF LIFE.
On research and just plain believing I have come to the conclusion that Jerusalem was and is the Garden of Eden.
When God told Adam that he would surely die it was a spiritual death not a physical one.
If I drank poison I might die then or I might die later.
Man was destined to live forever.
God did not say when God just said he would.
It has been said that when the Hebrew text were written they had no punctuation or chapter or verses that is why I study with different people who have access to those manuscripts and learn from them.
A lot of the answers to the so- called contradictions can be found in Jewish traditions.
The Bible talks of the mystery hid in God.
It all boils down to faith.
People build entire doctrines on verse that they interpret their way.
My doctrine is
JESUS LIVED! JESUS DIED! JESUS AROSE! JESUS TOOK AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD TO BRING US BACK TO THE FATHER!
The contradictions to me is because some people don't look past the word's on paper.
There are a lot of hidden nuggets that you have to pull out.
The Bible is not just a book it is a story of salvation and grace and God had his plans made from before the foundation of the world.
There is a lot of violence and bad things that happen but that just shows how much God hates sin and how holy God is.
This was the way that it was dealt with before the sacrifice of the Son which paid for all sins.
Without the acceptance of the cross and the resurrection those who don't accept will be dealt with the same way on judgment day.
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HAHA, love it :)
darrick,you're awesome,too.
There are quite a few neat people here if they'd stop sparring and look for each other's virtues.
(Ok,I'll get out of Cosby mode but why am I getting reminded less of God and more of M*A*S*H's Winchester and Houlihan versus Pierce and Hunnicutt or the Fantastic Four's Johnny Storm versus the bodacious,blue-eyed,Benjamin Grimm?
The good guys are all supposed to be on the same side,right?)
Still waiting on that answer parkerbrothers, you seem to have time to keep posting in other threads. Running out of steam? Ran out of Xanax? Aren't drunk enough yet?
What about tdc, Still think he is so correct? I haven't heard from you in a couple days? Yeah didn't think so. You guys are sad and wrong about alot of things, keep convincing yourselves how right you were about me. Go cry on each others shoulders.
Whether you are correct or not,I'm glad you seem to be responding out of concern for his well-being rather than making a shot.
I think when we get distracted from our own riff on the "dozens",we can be pretty decent toward one another.
As for how they could have Christians in the Bible before Christianity,they did it the same way Jesus' cousin managed to be a Baptist.
God's people have always been ahead of the pack.
;)
Not being sarcastic or hateful, but I think parkerbrothers is bi-polar and is some serious need of medical help. There are 2 distinct personalities appearing from him.
Nor did he answer me. Figures.
I didn't get any of what you said... But have a good day.
nascarfanatic,
My compellment tells me to finish with you individually. I know I picked on you as much as anybody but wanted to tell you why.
I felt the hand of God working on you in a way I can relate to. I saw it in your writing and felt it here in my heart. You admitted at times you were confused at what perhaps Sharon, Devon or someone else was spinning. I believe the Holy spirit is working you hard and his advesary is determined to not let up on you. I vividly recall the experience of it as you seem to be. The harder the spirit worked on me the harder Satan tried to retain me. There is no one that has tried to tear apart the gospel by use of seemingly contradictions as I have. The first one that jumped on me was the apparrant disceptencies between Pauls' view on works in relation to grace and James' stated view in his letter. It looked like one or the other was taking the others work and reversing to spite and contradict the other. It literally drove me up the wall and onto the floor. I have ripped the entire book of James out of several King James Version before, thrown the whole Bible in a fire, cussed it and all the idiots I thought wrote it along with anyone I thought was ignorant enough to believe it. The harder I tried to run from it the more it showed up in front of me. Then the harder I tried to understand it the harder Satan tried to confuse me by showing me what appeared to be discepencies. By the time I reached this point I had read the entire Bible including the book of James 4 times in different translations. I had read over 120 more books of which I used in pusuit of calming this unknown at the time calling down. I wanted it settled and soon learned what was hendering the process. It was my trying to use my mind alone to comprehend what Satan made appear as a complex system that God intended as a simple plan of rescue.
When I finally prayed for the Holy Spirit to remove everything I had ever learned on my own and teach me what I need to know it occurred. I woke up that morning and could not remove the thought of the life of the apostles. Like a movie projector rolling film out of control before my eyes I could see their lives as they met this stranger they at least knew was different and their lives with him all the way up to their cringing with fear in a room and using their minds to determine that this strange fellow they could not hardly figure out was dead.
The film quit rolling momentarily and as I started down I-65 South it started again as if I had ordered 2 movies with a scheduled intermission. This time all I could see was their lives from the previous day forward up to the point of suffering a tragic death. Either drug down a street, sawed in half, skinned alive or crucified upside down. Everyone of them a had look of contentment and peace over them that told me the answer. Something had happened to each of them from a precise moment in time.
They had all seen a resurrected Christ.
That settled it that day for me. Once I knew in my heart that he came out of the tomb I accepted and received the Holy Spirit. I drive by the spot just north of Exit 69 on a weekly basis and can not help but grin from ear to ear. The mysterious works of a risen Christ.
Nascarfanatic, it is time to leave this blog and wish you a blessing. I pray the Spirit continues to prick at you and somehow teach you to quit trusting in your self and your gathered knowledge and allow him to teach you what you need to know instead of what you think you want to know. If the confusion ever stops you have surrendered to the teacher. He can not teach you or me when we are trying to teach him and prove his guided word is null and void.
Wishing you the contentment you deserve,
Marvin Parker
Feel free to e-mail me at crossroadsministries@yahoo.com
-- Posted by michaelbell on Sun, Mar 16, 2008, at 1:24 PM
Feel free to e-mail me at crossroadsministries98@yahoo.com
-- Posted by michaelbell on Sun, Mar 16, 2008, at 1:28 PM
Sorry that is thecrossroads08@yahoo.com
-- Posted by michaelbell on Sun, Mar 16, 2008, at 1:44 PM
Dude, you couldn't even get your own email address right... Am I surprised that the rest of your postings are any different? LOL
BTW Marvin did my phone number searches on Google yield any results last night?:)
Sorry that is thecrossroads08@yahoo.com
You think you cause me discomfort? No. Maybe others feel that way, but I am pretty comfortable with myself and my relationship with others including God and Jesus to know I am on the right path.
Since you cutted and pasted almost everything I said, it really didn't answer or ask any questions or backup anything you are trying to say. If you look for question marks in the sentences, Those point to questions. It is very easy to do in MS word.
parkerbrothers,
"... And please tell me who Christ is, because he seems to be mentioned more than Jesus is."
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:16 PM
Now let me give you a brief synaposis of "Arab-Christian Homily of the Eighth Century" Which basically states that the Roman Catholic church had to decide whether the two christs, One was Redeemer and the other was.. (damn I can't remember the name.. right now) were seperate humans or the same christ.
(and this it just 1 book stating this, there are many others)
These two seperate humans were in two different parts of the known world thousands of miles apart doing miracles and speaking to people. This is the same church that slaughtered millions of people, burned people, and destroyed texts that they didn't agree with. So it makes me wonder why they felt they could make the distinction as that both people could be Jesus Christ, or two seperate people claiming to be him using other means of "miracles".
If you want to argue that point that people that aren't christians could do that kind of "magic" We could open that up because Paul on several ocassion fought a sorcerer who could fly, kill people with a mere whisper. Please remember though these readings I am mentioning above are coming from the lost books of the Bible. Which is a MORE complete Bible. Not the pittance of words you claim to be the word of god.
If you read your Bible, and Michael even quoted it above, It says Jesus is the Word of God. Not the Bible.
So if it took you all morning to cut and paste things you clearly didn't read to make some point, you seriously failed in the task you were trying to present. But I gave you the benefit of doubt and I have answered your questions. Now answer mine since you can't seem to figure it out.
To Everyone on here,
Thanks from the bottom of my lowly sinning heart for what each of you added and persisted with in allowing me to learn as I have from each and everyone one of you both individually and collectively as a group. I hope you all see the need of the proper foundation called Christ and if not I pray he remains persistant in his calling you to build your house upon him.
I ask each of you to forgive me for any hurt or pain I may have caused any of you with my answering the compellment drawing me to start typing. I did not intend to hurt and hope somehow I helped someone a 1000th of what you guys helped me. If I did it was worth the hours I adhered to the compelling force I know to be Christ.
Thanks,
Marvin Parker
Thank you and may God truly bless you for your kind words and truly watch over you and guide you in your walk with Christ.
Feel free to e-mail me at crossroadsministries98@yahoo.com
We can chat in private there if you want to talk further, this goes for greasemonkey who came to church today.
I was honored to meet him and hope to become friends.
If anybody else wants to e-mail that is fine to
Thank you and may God truly bless you for your kind words and truly watch over you and guide you in your walk with Christ.
Feel free to e-mail me at crossroadsministries@yahoo.com
We can chat in private there if you want to talk further, this goes for greasemonkey who came to church today.
I was honored to meet him and hope to become friends.
If anybody else wants to e-mail that is fine to
michaelbell,
I apologize for what looked like a derailment of your blog for any part I committed.
I do however want to say I learned a lot about God, Jesus, the Holy spirit and myself in the last few days when I stumbled onto your blog and was compelled to join. I learned something important from each and everyone that participated and aprreciate the blog being here. I appreciate your tough hide that can take the whippings you have received of which I know I caused some. I hope we all build our houses on the foundation of Christ that I grew to know through my Bible and trust and hope its core message has indeed been guided and protected by the passionate Christ who took my whipping for me and you and everyone that will accept it. That alone should compel all of us to lay down are attempts of using our own works which are viewed as dirty rags and accept his work on the cross and then be able to do our first good works out of love instead of our own self imposed duty to earn salvation by being a good and moral person according to our created perception of what that is and how many we need to earn it. It truly is good news to me. As with my trade the correct foundation is the most important aspect I need we all need to watch.
Again, thank you for existing and keep building upon the foundation of Christ.
Thanks,
Marvin Parker
Good Morning EvilMonkey,
I hope some sleep done as much good for you as it did for me. I really wanted to stay up and finish our topic last night especially after I saw where it had swelled to 287 post and I realized that it had got to going so fast that I had probably missed your question somewhere in the furry.
Anyway in order to try make sense of what I was asking you and you were asking me I decided to get up this morning and go through the whole blog and pull out everything that might pertain to your question and mine and put them in a folder in time order and leave out all the irrelevant post (including some of mine) that clouded the observation of our questions.
I have copied and pasted them below and hope it helps you as much as it did me. At the end of these I will try to answer what I think was your question.
FIRST:
My doctrine is
JESUS LIVED!
JESUS DIED!
JESUS AROSE!
JESUS TOOK AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD TO BRING US BACK TO THE FATHER!
Posted by michaelbell
That's the gospel! Thanks for the good work. Thought I would jump on this and congradulate you before the condemnation started from your favorite three. I wonder if they will beat me to it before I hit the send button. Here goes.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Thu, Mar 13, 2008, at 6:58 PM
THEN:
parkerbrothers,
You sure are assuming way too much about me. Michael is NOT preaching of a living christ that I know. He is speaking of a god that condemns all people that don't agree as he does. He believes in fear and death and revels in falsehoods of end-time prophetic meananderings
Likewise, You make it sound like because I don't believe as Michael does, I am against God. You assume wrong yet again. I have not seen one person on here state Christ is dead. Plus you don't even know which Christ you are talking about? There were 2 mentioned in the Bible named Jesus.
ƒÞ Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 9:24 AM
THEN:
Comment: Yes I am guilty of the use of assumptions. I believe I inherited that human trait. I see Michael preaching a living Christ and I see Michael's correct positioning of his Christ. Tell me something about this living Christ you know. Do you think he is capable of guiding the hand of man and protect his gospel? Is this living Christ you know the same teacher that personally taught Paul after his resurrection and guided him in the writing of over half the New Testament letters? Tell me,where did you learn of this Christ you know? ...I see Michael speaking of a God that condemns sin and will not be in its presence. This wrathful God's character is dispayed throughout the Old Testament. This wrathful character of the God I know is appeased only through the sacrafice of the living Christ I know. The Christ I know displayed his character and purpose to me through his guiding of man's hand through time. Again, where did you learn of this Christ you know?....You claim Michael believes in fear and death. So do I. If your opinion of God and Christ comes through the study of his guided word you would believe in fear and death also. If you plan on appeasing this God I know on your own merits and refused the sacrafice of this Christ I know you have answered my question on where you learned of this god and Christ you know. Again, tell me about this living Christ you know and the source of your vast learning.
Comment: I do not want anyone to think that you are against God? I just want you to draw upon this vast knowledge you have and tell me about this God and Christ you know and reveal for me the sources drawn upon. I am open minded and crave for additional sources to draw upon myself to learn more about his character and passion. Since the Bible is inconsistent, wrecked and rendered useless I want to prod your sources and see how willing they were to hold to their accounts¡K..you are right, no one has literally said that Christ is dead. However when you asked someone if they believe in a risen Christ and they do not answer you, most humans will do that awful thing and assume of which I plead guilty.¡K.Lastly, I do know there were more than one Jesus named in the Bible and I know which is the risen. Do you?
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 4:09 PM
THEN:
AMEN parkerbrothers....
If you are indeed an impossible man, at least you are on the right side of this debate. EM and similar others are only secular humanists who deny the power of Christ and only serve to separate his own from him. They all speak of belief in God and his Son, but none have acknowledged a relationship with him and called themselves "Christian". As you say, even Satan himself believes in God. This is not enough. Only acceptance of his grace through Jesus Christ are we saved.
ƒÞ Posted by cfder on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 5:27 PM
THEN:
cfder, Glad to know we have met the same Christ.
ƒÞ Posted by parkerbrothers on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 5:31 PM
THEN:
AMEN!
ƒÞ Posted by michaelbell on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 6:19 PM
THEN:
michaelbell, You know which Jesus I am talking about. No doubt about you!
ƒÞ Posted by parkerbrothers on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 6:29 PM
THEN:
Kenneth Parker,
Wow, you are clearly upset about my opinion? Check out the Edict of Milan. I am not here to make enemies nor am I trying to hurt feelings but if people are truly getting worked up over me asking some questions and posting then all I can simply say is, wow.
cfder,
You are so wrong, I love God and I love Jesus, But I never said anything against the power of Christ, I have though, against the Power of Men.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 7:30 PM
THEN:
But do you proclaim to be a Christian? Do you believe that Christ is the only route to heaven?
ƒÞ Posted by cfder on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 7:52 PM
THEN:
I don't think everyone is going to heaven, only 144,000. Was Jesus a Christian? What about Paul? Why do I need a label on my belief? Didn't know belief was considered a brand name now. Guess that makes me not popular, Damn I guess the cool kids are going to pick on me now:(
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 7:59 PM
THEN:
Also, tell me about this Jesus you know. Where did you gather your information in order to know him well enough to love him? It is and has been a very simple question I ask of you and others. Again,tell me about this Jesus you love and how you come to know him well enough to claim a love of him?
ƒÞ Posted by parkerbrothers on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 8:00 PM
THEN:
What is there to tell you? I believe in Jesus, just like everyone else. I just don't believe all the hype regarding the bible as the word of god. And I already told you 2 times why I do not believe the Bible is correct many times over and I have posted the sources several times.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 8:14 PM
THEN:
Come on, I am waiting. Have you researched the Edicts of Milan? What about the Tolerance? Inquisition?
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 8:20 PM
THEN:
How would you know what was said since you don't believe the Bible in which it was written?
You deny Christ when you don't accept his salvation personally. Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father but through me."
-- Posted by cfder on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 8:33 PM
THEN:
Where did I say that I don't accept salvation?
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 8:56 PM
THEN:
Did you say that you do accept Jesus as salvation? If so, I've never seen it in the many comments you've made.
-- Posted by cfder on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 9:01 PM
THEN:
Didn't know I had to do it in every post, never saw you say or, never saw Michael say, never saw parkersbrothers say it. Didn't know I had to say it to everyone I meet. Is it some law that God stated I needed to say that?
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 9:06 PM
THEN:
I'm saying it right now: I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior. I don't deny it. If you have accepted him, then you won't deny him.
-- Posted by cfder on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 9:18 PM
THEN:
I don't deny it, I have accepted jesus as my savior. I did so years ago, probably before most of you were born.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 9:38 PM
THEN:
Evil Monkey, I was baptized twice in a church and still discovered I was lost.
Tell me about this Jesus you know and where did you learn enough about him to claim a love for him?
Admittedly I have only briefly indulged myself with the Edict of Milan and the Inquisitions. Are these sources where you found and relied upon to understand this Christ you tell me about. I missed it.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 9:42 PM
THEN:
I don't deny it, I have accepted jesus as my savior. I did so years ago, probably before most of you were born.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 9:38 PM
EvilMonkey, That is the best thing I have heard from you and you could not have said anything any better.
I am not going to lie though. I do truly wonder where you learned of this Jesus you claim to love and now accept as Saviour. From the bottom of my heart I am curious as how you came to this point. I hope your path was easier than mine. You honestly do confuse me though with your regaurd to the Bible. Where else did you learn of our Savior?
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 9:52 PM
THEN:
No idea why you are confused with my regard to the Bible, I pretty much told you why I don't believe it as the word of god.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 10:30 PM
THEN:
The Biblw says that the word was with God and the word became flesh so when I see my Bible, I see Jesus.
I went to church and got baptized and all that to.
Not until I recieved the Holy Spirit did I truly know Christ.
Acceptance of the Cross guarentees salvation and a place in Heaven.
The question is ?
As in God's temple are you wiling to stay in the Outer Court and just watch all the going-ons? or do you want to get as close to God as you can ?
The Bible gets me that close.
-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 10:34 PM
THEN:
Evil Monkey,
Sorry for being confused. Where did you learn of this Christ you love and accept as Savior? If not from God's word then where? I want to learn.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 10:43 PM
THEN:
parkerbrothers,
Honestly, I doubt you will ever know, or care why or how I know Jesus, the Son of God. And I do not need to tell you what is in my heart or about my personal relationship with God and his Son. The people who know me can see by my actions and words. And please tell me who Christ is, because he seems to be mentioned more than Jesus is.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:16 PM
THEN:
He isn't bullying me. I really like it when someone wants to question me, I just don't like the way he is doing it. Christiangirl asked question etc and I don't mind answering them, but when I answer them and they keep at me without researching it. I find that a bit unnerving.
ƒÞ Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:28 PM
THEN:
Monkey, dont complain about being chastised, you do it to anyone who doesnt think like you.
-- Posted by tdc on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:33 PM
THEN:
Correction: Anyone who believes in The Bible
-- Posted by tdc on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:35 PM
THEN:
Evil Monkey,
Sorry if you missed my earlier post. I commend you on your love of Jesus the Christ and your acceptance of him as your Savior.
I want your help. Tell me where you found enough information on this Christ to determine you love him and can accept him as Savior. I stopped picking at you some time ago but you still will not answer my simple and childish question and help me.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:40 PM
THEN:
I never said I loved Christ, you did.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:42 PM
THEN:
I said I loved Jesus. I answered your question. You just don't get it through your thick skull.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:43 PM
THEN:
I promise to quit messing with you when you decide to answer my dreaded question.
Night, night EM.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 1:06 AM
THEN:
I did answer you.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 1:25 AM
THEN:
Evil Monkey,
Accept my apologies then. Please simply copy and paste your answer so I can see how long I was ignorant to your answer. I never claimed to be the sharpest tool in my fathers shed.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 7:02 AM
THEN:
parkerbrothers,
Again I have answered you several times, I will not cut and paste because you can read for yourself. Anonymous? is that what you tried to spell? Actually I have come face to face and told people who I was without any problem. I have posted my phone number more than 10 times for people to call. So if you want to call me cowardly, say that to my face. But to hide behind a keyboard and act like a child? That's plain ignorant.
I have asked you several questions, you have yet to answer, when you do, I might answer yours. Since you have a hard time reading and comprehending me, please seek more education or if you want I can help tutor you. I will charge you the same as I do anyone.
Until then, you may keep posting, but you will notice you have little to nothing to add.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 6:58 PM
THEN:
EvilMonkey,
My continued question is again: Tell me where you found enough information on this Jesus that you know to determine you love him and can accept him as Savior as you claimed without the use of this Bible that has been debated.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 10:56 PM
THEN:
parkerbrothers,
Your true colors have surely shown through.
#1 as I said previously, I cannot answer your question if you cannot answer mine. Simply said. I do not know what christ you are talking about. There are a couple mentioned in the Bible.
THEN:
Good people have names they are not ashamed of and know their sources when asked to give.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:29 PM
THEN:
Disturbia,
Please don't even continue, he can't answer anything. No point. He is ignorant.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:42 PM
THEN:
Ok pbros,
Since you cannot answer a question that I needed to answer yours, You may claim any whatever you want.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sun, Mar 16, 2008, at 12:04 AM
THEN:
I am still waiting on my question to be answered so that I can answer yours.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sun, Mar 16, 2008, at 12:32 AM
THEN:
Please ask me the question I missed. I take the blame for looking over it.
I am going to bed again but will answer your question by tommorrow afternoon.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sun, Mar 16, 2008, at 12:39 AM
After organizing this information I did see where I missed your question last night of which I am sorry and take the blame. I believe your question is:
Question:
"Simply said. I do not know what christ you are talking about. There are a couple mentioned in the Bible."
I hope I am understanding you correctly so here goes:
My Answer:
The Christ I always refer to was the one that Peter correctly identified when asked by Jesus "what do people say I am and who do think I am" and Peter said "you are the Christ" and Jesus confirmed this as correct.
This Christ that I always refer to is the one Paul said showed him the light literally and blinded him and then literaly restored his sight and then figuratively showed him the light by literraly teaching him for 3 and 1/2 years in a resurrected body.
This Christ I always refer to is the one that one of the theives on the cross recognized as the light and the promised Messiah and the other theif could not see because of the darkness.
This Christ I always refer to is the one that was promised and delivered to be my advocate and stand between me and God while the Evil One stands behind me accussing and presenting my many (absolutely uncountable) sins to this same perfect God.
This Christ I refer to is the one that promised to send me his Holy Spirit of which he kept his promise to me. It provided a peace that surpasses all understanding and settled my faith.
It fell on me the day I quit kicking and pawing and realized that all these testament writers would not have suffered the persecution they did for not recounting their testimony of what they had seen and what they had seen was a risen Christ that indeed did beyond a shadow of a doubt come out of that tomb. I knew it when it came upon me and thank God that he did not give up on me when he should have and showed the other loving side of his revealed character by providing a final sacrafice that was sufficient and acceptable to him to appease the wrathful side of his nature that can not be in the presence of sin.
This Christ I am always referring to is the one I hope you were referring to when you stated (1)"You sure are assuming way too much about me. Michael is NOT preaching of a living christ that I know.", (2)" You are so wrong, I love God and I love Jesus, But I never said anything against the power of Christ,", (3) "I believe in Jesus, just like everyone else." and (4) "I don't deny it, I have accepted jesus as my savior. I did so years ago, probably before most of you were born."
EM, I am not trying to persecute you. I truly see Gods' hand working much like Sharon22 seen earlier and commented on.
It is a mysterious hand at times and there is a reason for it being used with the simple Gospel.
I hope you can see where I honestly got confused (and it is probably a misplaced confusion on my part) by taking serious your posts on the how you believe the Bible as it has survived (by what I see as guided and protected by this living Christ that I refer to) is not a credible source to form a faith upon. I have probably erred in thinking by the use of that dreaded trait called assumptions and think you have to be relying on a source other than the Bible to form your faith and would like to know more about it in order to allow myself to grow.
Sometimes I know I confuse things so let me try to stop and just ask you a couple of questions? I hope you will answer them and I trust you will do as you said you would once I answered your question of which I hope I have. EM, as you know from my past post I do not claim to be educated or smart and I may not have understood your question correctly. If I have again misunderstood something please be patient and ask me again.
My questions:
(1) - Are we both talking about the same Jesus? The one I tried to describe and the one you said you love and accept as Savior as I do.
(2) - If so, do you have sources other than the Bible you could sell or let me borrow to allow me to learn more about Him?
EM, sorry for the approach I took and any discomfort I caused you. I would enjoy the priviledge of taking you up on your offer for me to carry you and your family to dinner sometime. I know God is working on you just like he is on me and the rest of everyone on here.
We are all different but hope we see the common thread that is there.
Thanks, Marvin Parker
Good Morning EvilMonkey,
You are right. I have been here since 6:00 this morning reviewing and organizing everything and almost have it ready to go. I sincerely want to answer any question you have and think I have found it embedded in the previous 287 post I could hardly keep up with. Thanks for you patience and I will send it briefly.
You missed all three times I asked? I guess you were busy trying to be "clever". Well Since you had time to be "clever" you have time to find the question.
Ok pbros,
Since you cannot answer a question that I needed to answer yours, You may claim any whatever you want.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sun, Mar 16, 2008, at 12:04 AM
Evil Monkey, I truly am sorry. I missed the question you want me to answer. I am not dodging one and do not mind being asked by you for anything and of anything. I will always try my best (not much to expect) to answer any question.
Please ask me the question I missed. I take the blame for looking over it.
I am going to bed again but will answer your question by tommorrow afternoon.
You guys quiten down now so we can all get some sleep. I have a feeling those lions, tigers and bears aren't staying up this late. JK...JK...JK...JK...
I am still waiting on my question to be answered so that I can answer yours.
Not everyone feels comfortable putting out their whole name. Why does that matter to you? Why is it important for you to know what someone's name is? I don't get it.....
and an actually reply to my question would be nice.
-- Posted by stolen25 on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:51 PM
Answer: I believe my perceived need is close to being what everyone elses was when they worried about who I was. We all have something in common. Most of my actions are influenced by these highy educated ones on here that almost worried theirselves to death with who I was. Think maybe I followed this educated crowd.
As you should recall I was a teacher, then a coach, then a principal, I became Kenneth, back to the husband of the teacher of Darrick04's, etc.,etc.,etc until one the highly educated ones said : "I have a question, Parkerbrothers, if you're so devoted to God and Jesus and yadayada, then why are you so scared to tell anybody your name. It sounds like you have the anonymity blues. Are you that scared?" So I answered his question and herenow have answered yours.
Now stolen25 be gracious and return the favor. Why do you think some do not feel comfortable putting their names on here so they can be identified for their beliefs?
In your own sweet words "and an actually reply to my question would be nice."
I patiently await your reply and will check back tommorrow afternoon for your anticipated reply.
Good evening fellow lovers of truth. Someone needs their prozac. What in the world has happened to discussion? I am appalled.
Ok pbros,
Since you cannot answer a question that I needed to answer yours, You may claim any whatever you want.
You always insist on answers parkerbrothers, well so do I so answer my question I posted DIRECTLY to you please...
The other day it was "one down two to go..." b/s, now today it's a metaphor of the trinity??? Parkerbrothers, what are you proving besides your incapacity to facilitate normal discussion?
-- Posted by darrick_04 on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:45 PM
Forgive me Darrick04, I just woke up and found I was talking to a car being driven by a monkey. It had to be a bad dream.
Jesus isn't going to feed me, the paycheck and the trip to Kroger's is going to feed me, I don't sit around waiting for Jesus to do what needs to be done, I go and do it for myself.
and BTW I do love Jesus and believe the bible is flawed. Yes that is possible.
Disturbia,
Please don't even continue, he can't answer anything. No point. He is ignorant.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:42 PM
And an ignorant man has penned a educated monkey.
I too have to get some sleep. Will probably wake up tomorrow and find lion, tigers and bears on here with degrees from Harvard telling me they love Jesus and the Bible is a hoax but the Jesus in the Bible is going to feed and water them. Mama said there would be days like this and jungles out there.
WOW lol..this is hilarious. parkerbrothers, meaty and murphy's law are ridiculous.
what is the sudden obsession with someone's name? Unless someone did actually name their child Meaty and well that is just plain out mean. I have seen a hundred different names on here and that's the whole point of blogging, I am sure your mom didn't name you parkerbrothers, and if she did, wow, she must have been under heavy sedation at the time.
Not everyone feels comfortable putting out their whole name. Why does that matter to you? Why is it important for you to know what someone's name is? I don't get it.....
and an actually reply to my question would be nice.
Goodnight everyone, this is too crazy...
The other day it was "one down two to go..." b/s, now today it's a metaphor of the trinity??? Parkerbrothers, what are you proving besides your incapacity to facilitate normal discussion?
Why are you guys ashamed to be known for who you are, what you believe and who you rely upon as your source?????
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:33 PM
Because, it's the only thing you're worried about :) So it's fun to keep you focused on the trivial points.
-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:35 PM
About as good of an excuse as anyone could ask for from an ashamed people.
You may consider it trivial but your lack of stance for yourself is substantial.
Evil Monkey,
I will most definently take your advice. It's not worth it. Thank you and have a good night EM :)
OMG... what is going on ??? LOL, this blog is hilarious!
Disturbia,
Please don't even continue, he can't answer anything. No point. He is ignorant.
Correction, I meant slab houses..you know, pour a slab of concrete, frame it up, wire it and have it ready in about 2 weeks. Leaving unsuspecting house owners to clean up the messes you didn't fix to begin with so you can make a quick buck.
Only a monkey at the wheel of a car with a disturbed passenger singing jesusloveseverybody1 Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:29 PM
Well, dang if that's the description, then surely it couldn't have been that hard to find me...
-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:33 PM
They asked for identification and collaboration but the car sputtered, the monkey just grinned and made a face while the disturbed lady sang loudly. I think they deemed you incoherant to the Word.
I did. I sent you all an invitation but all came back marked: Return to Sender, No credible person found. Only a monkey at the wheel of a car with a disturbed passenger singing jesusloveseverybody1 in the seat arguing over who was the most educated and great debater between verses found at address. Will not attempt second delivery due to Evil smell at address.
Good people have names they are not ashamed of and know their sources when asked to give.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:29 PM
If, by any stretch of the imagination, you think this gives you or your business a good name, you are so sadly mistaken. 49 years old and still a child, so sad. I am sure those utopia houses you are planning on building will be nothing more than slat houses. Especially with your frame of mind.
Why are you guys ashamed to be known for who you are, what you believe and who you rely upon as your source?????
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:33 PM
Because, it's the only thing you're worried about :) So it's fun to keep you focused on the trivial points.
Wow, is someone still a litte ticked off from being penalized $28,500.00. Need something to take your mind off of messing with the enviroment there parkerbrothers.
Mike's mobile - 931-224-5909
Marvin's mobile - 931-224-1571
Dot's mobile - 931-580-8600
Parkerbrothers???
What about this trinity? How pathetic
-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:20 PM
As I said earlier I am not ashamed of my faith or my sources and cleary display all to see which is lacking with you. Why are you guys ashamed to be known for who you are, what you believe and who you rely upon as your source?????
Only a monkey at the wheel of a car with a disturbed passenger singing jesusloveseverybody1 Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:29 PM
Well, dang if that's the description, then surely it couldn't have been that hard to find me...
So parkerbrothers, Murphy's Law, Meaty, where is the party? Three laptops sitting side by side, telling each other "1,2,3, post!"....
Next time, show some hospitality and invite us all!
-- Posted by jesuslovesevery1 on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:15 PM
I did. I sent you all an invitation but all came back marked: Return to Sender, No credible person found. Only a monkey at the wheel of a car with a disturbed passenger singing jesusloveseverybody1 in the seat arguing over who was the most educated and great debater between verses found at address. Will not attempt second delivery due to Evil smell at address.
Good people have names they are not ashamed of and know their sources when asked to give.
oh well heres mine 931-536-1279 just to make it fair hehe.
It was aimed at both of you. Wouldn't want to leave anyone out. Gotta be fair. Night all. Enjoyed it.
-- Posted by Meaty on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:25 PM
Don't wanna leave anyone out? Then next time invite us over...
Whether I am a Christian or not is none of your business. We would not invite anyone "Disturbed" to our party. Can't wait to see you picketing outside schools in the fall.
-- Posted by Meaty on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:17 PM
Anyone who came to your party would have to be "disturbed".
It was aimed at both of you. Wouldn't want to leave anyone out. Gotta be fair. Night all. Enjoyed it.
parkerbrothers,
Your true colors have surely shown through.
#1 as I said previously, I cannot answer your question if you cannot answer mine. Simply said. I do not know what christ you are talking about. There are a couple mentioned in the Bible.
#2 I find it funny you claim to be one of Jesus' saved yet you need to call me names and continually find ways to push my buttons.
Now, I do feel sad for you because of all the issues you had with the local zoning council etc. I find it unfair they gave a dirtball like Ritchie zoning when you had a nicer development idea; and I actually supported you. But now, I am starting to get 2nd thoughts about the level of maturity and audacity you have towards others and find that is disheartening.
Now you may continue your verbal bashing against me all you want, I can take it in stride or you can just take me and my family out to dinner and talk abou this like normal people. I have no problem discussing this with you.
Whether I am a Christian or not is none of your business. We would not invite anyone "Disturbed" to our party. Can't wait to see you picketing outside schools in the fall.
-- Posted by Meaty on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:17 PM
I'm not disturbed, so please respond to the correct person. Thank you!
Mike's mobile - 931-224-5909
Marvin's mobile - 931-224-1571
Dot's mobile - 931-580-8600
Parkerbrothers???
What about this trinity? How pathetic
Don't you know what a play on words is? I believe Murphy's law thinks someone just might be "Disturbed"
Whether I am a Christian or not is none of your business. We would not invite anyone "Disturbed" to our party. Can't wait to see you picketing outside schools in the fall.
Is it just me or is Murphy blinder than a bat or just can't spell, I thought it was DISTURBIA...guess that's what you get when you share part of your brain with someone named Meaty.
Disturbed,
My question is where did you get your information?
Posted by Murphy's Law on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 10:37 PM
There is two things you can not ask this trinity of a disturbed passenger being driven by a monkey in a car on here. One is the question you asked above and the other is for their name which they are ashamed to give for fear of being known as what they are.
So parkerbrothers, Murphy's Law, Meaty, where is the party? Three laptops sitting side by side, telling each other "1,2,3, post!"....
Next time, show some hospitality and invite us all!
Tsk, Tsk, Tsk, Disturbed....
I think you might be a little upset.
Take deep breaths and go to your happy place.
Adios...
More like, two half brains make a mediocre mind.
-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:11 PM
LMAO!! My thoughts EXACTLY!!!
Because you are a "christian" and stirring up amusement is what Jesus would do, right?
There is nothing ironic about Murphy's Law and Meaty. Great minds think alike. Nothing like watching Disturbia become more disturbed. If that was even possible. LMAO
-- Posted by Meaty on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:05 PM
More like, two half brains make a mediocre mind.
Well no one pulled your string "Jesus loves everyone". LOL! Nothing like sitting around on a Saturday night stirring up amusement.
I love my Meaty!
Disturbed,
I am not the one so adamant about this. I simply asked a question that you obviously dont know the answer to. BTW, you spelled forehead incorrectly.
Goodnight Disturbed, have sweet dreams!
-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:06 PM
I answered your question, go back to your pipe and light it up crackhead
Murphy's Law, you spell Disturbia wrong, everytime you say Disturbed...
Disturbia seems to be full of hot air.
-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 9:37 PM
She gets it from a monkey in a car.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 11:00 PM
A monkey is better than some third rate childish business man any day of the week.
AND LOVE HOW YOU ARE ALL TO BUSY SAYING THINGS ABOUT ME TO ACTUALLY REFUTE WHAT I SAID....most likely because you can't
Another fine example of Christian etiquette... I am SURE Jesus would be proud of you... Very mature Meaty.
I love my Meaty!
Disturbed,
I am not the one so adamant about this. I simply asked a question that you obviously dont know the answer to. BTW, you spelled forehead incorrectly.
Goodnight Disturbed, have sweet dreams!
There is nothing ironic about Murphy's Law and Meaty. Great minds think alike. Nothing like watching Disturbia become more disturbed. If that was even possible. LMAO
parkerbrothers, you are displaying a fine Christian etiquette on these blogs. Astonishing, may I add. I think I read where you said you were 49, do 49 year old's still go around saying things like "she gets it from a monkey in a car"? How grossly overrated your previous comments were, as I seriously considered them to be legit.
But obviously, you're deviation from the purpose of this conversation and resorting to childish insuations is laughable. When you feel like debating something, by all means do it. But refrain from your unneeded scapegoats, and leave child's on the playground.
Disturbia seems to be full of hot air.
-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 9:37 PM
She gets it from a monkey in a car.
I do not think Murphey's law is smoking anything but is being hindered by Disturbia's hot air fogging up her monitor.
-- Posted by Meaty on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 10:55 PM
And noone pulled your string there Meaty
When I was a child during the McCarthy era, the slogan "Kill a Commie for Christ" was indelibly burned into my brain by John Birchers and other right-wing White-Christian radicals.
When I was training to become an Officer the United States Army during the Viet-Nam War era, we chanted "Kill them all and let God sort them out". Virtually 100% of our military instructors, who taught us various methods of killing not only the alleged enemy, but innocent peasants as well, believed themselves to be Christians.
How strange indeed considering the inalterable fact that Jesus represented the purest form of Communism!!!
So-called Christians have presided over the Holocaust. (Hitler proclaimed his Christianity and that he was killing Jews for Jesus.) So-called Christians have promoted dictatorships, the destruction of Planet Eden's rain forests, animal torture in factory farms, and wars declared for the sole purpose of lining the pockets of the Military-Industrial Complex. Millions of people and billions of God's animal children have been butchered in the name of Jesus!!! How sad Jesus must be. How can genuine Christians expect Jesus to return when so many persons who proclaim themselves to be Christians are actually enlisted in the Army of Satan, whether they realize it or not!!!
My heart hurts and my eyes fill with tears, when I think of Jesus returning to our world and encountering the average self-proclaimed "Christian". He would be ridiculed for His dress and for His beard and hair. If He confronted the average "Christian" preacher in the average American church, He would be lectured and condemned for His ideals and teachings. He would be called a 'false prophet' and the extreme right-wing would no doubt condemn Him as the ANTICHIRST!!! Even if He quoted directly from the 'red-letter' edition of The Holy Bible, He would be accused of blasphemy!!!
It is obvious, that if Jesus were to return today He would face a second Crucifixion!!!
Lastly, isn't it quite odd that everytime 'Murphey's Law' shows, his 'Meaty' does too. Ironic.
HOW MANY TIMES DOES THE WORD CHRISTIAN APPEAR IN THE BIBLE? None. Christianity as such had not been invented, and the original Bible was not written in English. While the original biblical manuscripts were not written in English, therefore; the word Christian would not have been used at the time
-- Posted by Disturbia on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 8:19 PM
HOW MUCH CLEARER CAN I STATE THIS??? DO I NEED TO TATTOO IT ON YOUR FORHEAD? That is a clear intelligent statement. THE LATIN, HEBREW AND GREEK VERSIONS OF THE BIBLE DO NOT CONTAIN THE WORD CHRISTIAN. ONLY THE ENGLISH VERSION DOES, AFTER IT WAS REWRITTEN. It's not in the original version of the bible, makes sense that if GOD acknowledged Christians, then it would be in the bible that was originally written. Not the ones translated and retranslated time and time again.
If you think (and I use the word think lightly) that it is in the original version of the bible, then by all means, provide ME some proof.
parkerbrothers,
Again I have answered you several times, I will not cut and paste because you can read for yourself. Anonymous? is that what you tried to spell? Actually I have come face to face and told people who I was without any problem. I have posted my phone number more than 10 times for people to call. So if you want to call me cowardly, say that to my face. But to hide behind a keyboard and act like a child? That's plain ignorant.
I have asked you several questions, you have yet to answer, when you do, I might answer yours. Since you have a hard time reading and comprehending me, please seek more education or if you want I can help tutor you. I will charge you the same as I do anyone.
Until then, you may keep posting, but you will notice you have little to nothing to add.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 6:58 PM
EvilMonkey,
You do appear to have enough education and knowlege to supply me and half the rest of the people on here with your surplus alone. Few people die accumulating a third of the knowledge you peeped out of MommaMonkeys' womb with.
I will address you as a Coward where and when I choose and my definition of a coward does not change with either the weather or the location. I do not hide behide my keyboard. My story to you is the same wherever I so be. Here at my desk or face to face with a self proclaimed EvilMonkey you will be a coward when I want you to be.
Your rattlings would appear more credible is you were not so ashamed to reveal yourself as the man/woman you are and answer a question that appears to have a Monkey penned.
This lowly and barely high school educated man here could indeed use more education of which you are blessed abundantly with but I can not afford the 800 lbs. you charge per hour for the administering of your rupturing wealth of knowledge.
My continued question is again: Tell me where you found enough information on this Jesus that you know to determine you love him and can accept him as Savior as you claimed without the use of this Bible that has been debated.
Answer the question and you get released from the cage you penned yourself into my Monkey.
Disturbed,
I can see that you are still hiding behind grade school insults avoiding my question...
I do not think Murphey's law is smoking anything but is being hindered by Disturbia's hot air fogging up her monitor.
Actually.. THIS is what you said :
Why is it so far-fetched that the word Christian appears in the Greek version of the Bible? I do not see opposition to the fact that the word Christ appears in same said version. So why would it be such a stretch that a word meaning 'followers of Christ' would occur in the verses that Grandpa Davidson listed?
-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 10:24 PM
Did I say Christ was a Christian? No, I asked why is it so far fetched to believe that FOLLOWERS of Christ were called Christians.
And Disturbed, continue with your insults to avoid typing anything intellegent.
better to be a smart a** than a dumb a**. =]
and thank you for addressing the comments stating the proof, I don't know why you picked me out of 226 comments, but more power to you, if that's how you get your jolly's
Disturbed,
I didn't question if Harry Potter was read in your home. My question is where did you get your information? You haven't given anything to back up your statements. When you make statements, you should have proof like I do, such as suggesting to others to read your past posts as evidence that you are indeed full of hot air.
I would rather be full of hot air than full of s**t. BTW, you have a little left on your upper lip.
-- Posted by Disturbia on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 10:13 PM
The above statement by Disturbia is PROOF that Disturbia is also a smart a**. :)
And why is it so far fetched to believe that the word Christian didn't exist until someone decided to translate a DEAD language and make up the word "christian"?
Seems whatever Murphy's Law is smoking has clearly clouded his/her eyesight and brain considering I stated CLEARLY that it wasn't in ANY form of the bible until translated into ENGLISH, just as nascar pointed out, sure am glad he has the ability to read a full comment.
The bible will always be changed to conform, it's a ever-changing fairy tale and people can't accept that.
and you are right, if these followers of Christ were TRUE followers of Christ, they would be JEWISH, not Christian!
I do not see opposition to the fact that the word Christ appears in same said version. So why would it be such a stretch that a word meaning 'followers of Christ' would occur in the verses that Grandpa Davidson listed?
-- Posted by Murphy's Law on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 10:24 PM
Umm, Christ wasn't a Christian... He was a JEW! Disturbia told you, "Christian" wasn't in the Bible, Greek, Hebrew, etc etc etc etc until the ENGLISH version was created... And then, they changed the others to conform. It's happened all throughout history. Get used to it.
Nice of you to come on a blog and add absolutely NOTHING TO IT..but that seems to be typical of you, don't know why I expected anything different.
I do not seek to prove anything. I am just stating an observation, and I can assure you that my mind is much quicker than my fingers. Why are you concerned with my opinion? I want Disturbia to back up her statements with truth. Why is it so far-fetched that the word Christian appears in the Greek version of the Bible? I do not see opposition to the fact that the word Christ appears in same said version. So why would it be such a stretch that a word meaning 'followers of Christ' would occur in the verses that Grandpa Davidson listed?
Murphy's Law,
For your information, Harry Potter is required reading in my house,we have read them many times and consider them to be classics so seems like you are a person that makes assupmtions without knowing any answers. I IN NO WAY LISTEN TO ANY RELIGIOUS "MAN" CONCERNING WHAT I SHOULD READ OR DO. I make my own decisions and I did my research about the word "Christian" in the bible and it did not exist until the bible was translated into english, I think for myself, I speak for myself, I do not need anyone to tell me what to think or what to feel. I don't need to stir up controversy. I would rather be full of hot air than full of s**t. BTW, you have a little left on your upper lip.
Christianity as such had not been invented, and the original Bible was not written in English.
This answer is a wee bit misleading. The word "Christian" appears in all REVISED ENGLISH versions of the bible and one can go to the "blue letter bible" site and type in the word "Christian" and it will display the different chapters/verses where this word is used.
While the original biblical manuscripts were not written in English, therefore; the word Christian would not have been used at the time, just saying "None" and the short response concerning " Christianity as such, etc, etc, can give people the idea that it appears not in the bible that most of us are using, such as the English Version of the King James.
Exactly what have you proven here? That you're full of hot air too? Or fingers that outrun your mind?
No I haven't, but I am not the one disputing the occurance of the word Christian in the Bible. I am annoyed at people that claim knowledge of a subject without investigating the facts themselves. After reading many of Disturbia's posts, I think she is one of those people. JMO- kind of like those people that won't let their children read a Harry Potter book because some preacher told them not to, not because they read the book themselves and and made their own decision. I repect a person's opinion if he/she has taken the time to think for himself/herself, not just speak to stir up controversy. Disturbia seems to be full of hot air.
I don't know about Disturbia, but have you?
And you've read the Greek version of the Bible, Disturbed?
Love,
Murphy's Law
Grandpa_Davidson,
Sorry sir, but you couldn't BE more wrong....HOW MANY TIMES DOES THE WORD CHRISTIAN APPEAR IN THE BIBLE? None. Christianity as such had not been invented, and the original Bible was not written in English. While the original biblical manuscripts were not written in English, therefore; the word Christian would not have been used at the time
You might also give evilmonkey some suggestions on how to copy and paste. He is still having problems with it also.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 5:52 PM
I'm with you but be prepared to take a tongue lashing for believing in that Bible from some anonomous and cowardly people? (cars, monkeys and disturbed things) on here . Maybe they will respect their elders if nothing else. Keep it coming.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 6:13 PM
Thanks for adding so much to this blog.
BTW I did get it fixed.
Grandpa_Davidson,
Thanks for the tip, what I was trying to do had to do with a color issue and the conversion of a gif that was a different color RGB instead of the CYMK. That was the issue. I kept getting a window that popped up stating I needed to install a add-on but I knew I had it installed.
parkerbrothers,
Again I have answered you several times, I will not cut and paste because you can read for yourself. Anonymous? is that what you tried to spell? Actually I have come face to face and told people who I was without any problem. I have posted my phone number more than 10 times for people to call. So if you want to call me cowardly, say that to my face. But to hide behind a keyboard and act like a child? That's plain ignorant.
I have asked you several questions, you have yet to answer, when you do, I might answer yours. Since you have a hard time reading and comprehending me, please seek more education or if you want I can help tutor you. I will charge you the same as I do anyone.
Until then, you may keep posting, but you will notice you have little to nothing to add.
Grandpa_Davidson,
I'm with you but be prepared to take a tongue lashing for believing in that Bible from some anonomous and cowardly people? (cars, monkeys and disturbed things) on here . Maybe they will respect their elders if nothing else. Keep it coming.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 6:10 PM
Grandpa_Davidson,
You might also give evilmonkey some suggestions on how to copy and paste. He is still having problems with it also.
nascarfanatic,
You asked,
Hey folks.. How many times does the word "Christian" appear in the ORIGINAL Bible?
Shocker.... ZERO!
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Although the term Bible and original mean different things to different people, since no one else took the time to look it up for you,I've pasted below where the word Christian appears 3 times in the Bible.
Acts 11:26 (KJV)
"And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."
Since you asked for the original, here's Acts 11:26 in Greek: (WHNU)
και ευρων ηγαγεν εις αντιοχειαν εγενετο δε αυτοις και ενιαυτον ολον συναχθηναι εν τη εκκλησια και διδαξαι οχλον ικανον χρηματισαι τε πρωτως εν αντιοχεια τους μαθητας χριστιανους
Acts 26:28 (KJV)
"Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian."
1 Peter 4:14-16 (MSG)
"If you're abused because of Christ, count yourself fortunate. It's the Spirit of God and his glory in you that brought you to the notice of others. If they're on you because you broke the law or disturbed the peace, that's a different matter. But if it's because you're a Christian, don't give it a second thought. Be proud of the distinguished status reflected in that name!"
-- Posted by Evil Monkey
anyone know a photoshop cs3 pro? My program won't let me convert over to pdf files for some reason.
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EM, are you trying to convert to pdf with File>Save As>Photoshop PDF?
Is it a PSD document that you are trying to convert, or a different format?
LOL.. you're awesome!
BTW,49 is not old.
49 is barely past puberty.
Old is when you no longer need a night before to have a morning after.
The good news is (once we get all that's falling apart fixed) we can use our accumulated wisdom to get giddy in a perfectly legal,morally appropriate fashion.
(How's that for subversive?)
Don't write off middle age.
That's the beginning of one of the best times of your life:
"Old enough to know better,young enough to do it anyway."
Dianatn,you and your mom have my prayers,too.
Ask the medical folks about what anti-oxidants,etc. she could have.
They'd probably want to avoid a lot of sugar,spice,stimulants and excess fluid but the right amounts of potassium,Vitamin C,etc. could be beneficial.
People who have faced these health issues have made remarkable recoveries.
Much of that has been due to their own will and the love of their families.
I wish that were enough to cure every patient but it can help see people through the healing process when God says "Hang on. It's not time to go,yet. I need you here a while longer."
Here's hoping she can channel her fiestyness toward mending instead of feeling depressed and frustrated.
Hope (and maybe green tea and bilberries) can augment good medical care to work wonders.
Our agreeing together to ask for her to be blessed can't hurt.
(I'm going to ask for support for your whole family,too.
A patient's loved ones have their own stresses to deal with.)
Holler if we can help in any way.
May God Bless your mother and restore her to pefect health.
I did answer you.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 1:25 AM
Evil Monkey,
Accept my apologies then. Please simply copy and paste your answer so I can see how long I was ignorant to your answer. I never claimed to be the sharpest tool in my fathers shed.
I did answer you.
parkerbrothers,
You are like half dead and stuff, 49, geesh thats like one foot in the grave.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 12:08 AM
Monkey,
I am going to bed also and will talk to you tommorrow.
But before I go I want to finish the above comment of yours by asking you not to be an evil monkey and throw a nanner peel in front of my other foot.
I promise to quit messing with you when you decide to answer my dreaded question.
Night, night EM.
Parkerbrothers, why don't you offer Diana some prayers or something? Geez. It would probably humble you a bit.
-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 12:20 AM
Diana, I can not offer you a prayer as NF has suggested but I can put you and your mother into my prayers to God.
I do feel for both of you as both of my parents have had blood clots and/or strokes. I noticed you said your mother is hard headed. I hope she is not as hard headed as my father was. He refused to use a catheter?? or what ever it is called and insisted on going to the bathroom on his own when he had a blood clot while at Harton. The blood clot bursted and went to both lungs and his heart and he had to be life flighted to Vanderbilt where he laid unconscience for 5 weeks and was given less than a 1% chance of survival. He is healthy today at 70.
May your mother be blessed and return to her normal health.
Same here, I have couple meetings in M'boro tommorrow.
I am going to bed it's been a long day.
Nite nite
Take care all.
(sorry if I hi-jacked your blog Michael)
Oh then Don't do cayenne if she has IBS.
Hmmm not sure she could have that she isn't even suppose to have black pepper.
Something another about her colon (they have her on a low spice diet)
Before you do that though, does she have any allergies? Make sure beforehand.
yeah as in pepper, takes like crap, but it does the body good. Just a teaspoon, not the whole bottle;)
nite darrick
I believe in natural remedies too! Sleep is one, goodnight, lol..
cayenne? as in pepper?
geesh. She should take cayenne in her tea. That will clean out the blood ways good for memory too.
Blood clots
They can't give her the clot buster because of all her other problems:
congestive heart failure, pace maker, kidney disease, low blood, high blood pressure..
Did they say what was causing them?
May she surprise the doctors in astonishment, and validate modern-day miracles :)
Thanks Guys I appreicate it a lot
I do have to say she is better than she was..but the doctors seem to think it may not be the end of the strokes. Mom is hard headed and set in her ways (aren't we all though) she wants to be at home and I would never allow her to go to a nursing home anyway. I am just afraid she'll have another stroke and I won't know the signs considering she is still having the effects from this one.
the one that Jesus spoke to.
I already know I am not going to Heaven and I accept that. I will be with the criminal on the cross next to Jesus.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 12:12 AM
Evil Monkey,
There were two criminals on the cross with a great seperator in between them.
One of them realized he was a sinner and that the middle man was the Messiah. The other one never saw the light. You state you will be with the criminal on the cross but which side of the cross will you hang on?
Dianatn,
I never had to deal with medicare, so I really don't know all the ends and outs of that. Ok well if you need anything you have my number and you can call me anytime. If I am out on a call, just leave a message with the boss hehe.
Diana, SOOOO sorry to hear about this turn of events :( but luckily you have a great support system here. Could we send cards or anything? How bout a visit? I don't mind.
Parkerbrothers, why don't you offer Diana some prayers or something? Geez. It would probably humble you a bit.
Not in the hospital now (Thank you medicare, in case you don't realize it medicare will only allow you to be in the hospital 7 days then you have to go home and come back again)
Haha, bet you didn't know that "A.D." has NOTHING to do with "After the Death of Christ".... My name is, bom bomp bom bomp bom bomp
-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:53 PM
nascarfanatic,
A case perhaps of true anonymity blues as you termed it suffered by you. You guys seem to have the hardest time answering the simplest question.
And yes I do know that A.D. does not refer to the actual dated death of Christ which was in 30 A.D. Sorry for that given confusion on my part.I also know it is estimated his birth was 3 B.C. That as you already know is an interesting subject itself.
Do you suffer from this anonymity blues you seem to have been mis-diagnosing recently.
a stroke? thats more than not feeling well:( What hospital is she at?
tdc,
YAWN!!
Diana..glad to see you posting :) I will have your mother in my prayers.
hey EM
She's not well at all.. had a stroke and having a really hard time right now
tdc,
And that study guide is missing 85% of itself, what then?
Tdc, you really have a lot to offer. Now go make God proud, and do more than talk/type.
Hi Dianatn. Is your mom going to be ok? how serious is it?
Think of The Bible as a study guide, and for those needing the definition of that...
Study guides can be broad based to facilitate learning in a number of areas, or be resources that foster comprehension of literature, research topics, history, and other subjects. General topics include study and testing strategies; reading, writing, classroom, and project management skills; as well as techniques for learning as an adult, with disabilities, and online. Some will summarize chapters of novels or the important elements of the subject. Study guides for math and science often present problems (as in problem-based learning) and will offer techniques of resolution.
I already know I am not going to Heaven and I accept that. I will be with the criminal on the cross next to Jesus.
HALLELUJAH!!!!
AMEN
GLORY TO GOD
Reading all this I have to wonder when the next healing is? My Mom isn't feeling well.
DISCLAIMER: That was not directed to any one certain person just the thread in general
So you are counting on the bible to get you into heaven? hmmmm...good luck with that, me? I will rely on being a good person and loving God.
SO... you're counting on a Bible to do that? You can stay locked up in a jail cell forever, and read your Bible daily, but if you aren't out their being an advocate for humanity and doing good works, then it's pretty useless.
After all, if Jesus only talked the talk, it would have been much easier huh.
parkerbrothers,
You are like half dead and stuff, 49, geesh thats like one foot in the grave.
chas·tise /tʃæsˈtaɪz, ˈtʃæstaɪz/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[chas-tahyz, chas-tahyz] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
--verb (used with object), -tised, -tis·ing. 1. to discipline, esp. by corporal punishment.
2. to criticize severely.
3. Archaic. to restrain; chasten.
4. Archaic. to refine; purify.
I'm not counting on Websters to get me into Heaven
chastised:. to discipline, especially. by corporal punishment.
I don't think Nascar used corporal punishment...pick a new word.
Quantuamcat,
LOL...
Cool fixed the pdf issue, seems to not like gif conversions.
chastised:to criticize severely.
websters is easy to find!
-- Posted by tdc on Sat, Mar 15, 2008, at 12:04 AM
OMG, you just put your faith in a MAN-MADE BOOK, what's new?
and don't forget your funky sweaters ;)J/K
chastised:to criticize severely.
websters is easy to find!
Y'all have fun.
I'm going to hunt up some Jell-O.
Hey,hey,hey...
chastised: punished for misbehavior
you know what they say about the first chicken to cackle
-- Posted by tdc on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:51 PM
Yep and you cackled first...
Well see my real name, can be divided into three parts. Example "father, son, and the holy ghost"... But I choose to remain anonymous for fear of reprival. *LOL*
does this refresh your stale memory?
I have a question, Parkerbrothers, if you're so devoted to God and Jesus and yadayada, then why are you so scared to tell anybody your name. It sounds like you have the anonymity blues. Are you that scared?
-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:21 PM
nascar you are conviently avoiding the question you chastised Parker for not answering.
-- Posted by tdc on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:56 PM
Really? Define chastised?
Well hello Mr. Immaturity. I thought at 49 you would atleast act a little older. Check my upper lip, check yours, I smell some bull****!!!
*sniff sniff* I do believe I smell a whiff of sarcasm
-- Posted by stolen25 on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:46 PM
stolen25,
Check your upper lip. If not that then brush your teeth. You were not smelling sarcasm. JAJ
nascar you are conviently avoiding the question you chastised Parker for not answering.
Or was it "amost two down, one to go?" since we're speaking of 'assuming, guessing, and condemning'
Haha, bet you didn't know that "A.D." has NOTHING to do with "After the Death of Christ".... My name is, bom bomp bom bomp bom bomp
guys,
anyone know a photoshop cs3 pro? My program won't let me convert over to pdf files for some reason.
I have a question, Parkerbrothers, if you're so devoted to God and Jesus and yadayada, then why are you so scared to tell anybody your name. It sounds like you have the anonymity blues. Are you that scared?
-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:21 PM
nascarfanatic,
Everyone was too busy assuming, guessing and condemning to ask me. You were the first. What made you think I was afraid to tell you my name.
My name is Marvin Parker, male, white, 5'10", 180lbs., will be 49 years old on December 6, 2008 years after the death of Christ.
What is your name nascarfanatic?
tdc,
You really shouldn't be talking about yourself like that. Because I know that Evil Monkey always comes armed, you just don't want to LISTEN to him. Afraid you might actually learn something?
you know what they say about the first chicken to cackle
You looking in the mirror again?
quantumcat,
It's not time to be all Bill Cosbyish right now. Maybe some other time:)
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:48 PM
Yeah, this is a battle of witts, and most of these people came unarmed!
quantumcat,
It's not time to be all Bill Cosbyish right now. Maybe some other time:)
Evil Monkey,
Sorry if you missed my earlier post. I commend you on your love of Jesus the Christ and your acceptance of him as your Savior.
I want your help. Tell me where you found enough information on this Christ to determine you love him and can accept him as Savior. I stopped picking at you some time ago but you still will not answer my simple and childish question and help me.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:40 PM
*sniff sniff* I do believe I smell a whiff of sarcasm
SHUT UP...
-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:42 PM
This is quite eloquant from someone who claims to be a history scholar!!!
hahahahahah
-- Posted by tdc on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:43 PM
It's what you tell students when they want answers, but don't quit talking long enough to read them!
If y'all aren't careful,God just might give y'all a common goal or opponent where you'd have to acknowledge and rely on one another as family and team-mates.
I can just hear His admonishments.
"I don't care who started it. I'm finishing it.
I brought you into this world,I can take you out.
You're so busy trying to take each other apart. You want a piece of Me?
Well,you've got one.
All of you have a part of me within you that no one else has or ever will have.
You can either learn to respect that bit of Me in one another or you'll never be able to work together.
I've put you here in the same place at the same time so you can pool your gifts and support one another.
If you're going to undermine my work and my people,be honest enough to admit who you serve.
If you love me and want to follow me,look for what I value in the person next to you.
None of you have to be omniscient and infallible or even all-loving.
That's my job.
You're supposed to follow my lead and use what virtue you've got.
That's My grace,the talents I put in you and the gift of all these other people.
Now,behave and work in harness or I'll let you squall in your cribs like the babes you seem to be and I'll pick some servants among the grown-ups.
Give these people a chance and you might learn to believe in them as well as Me."
SHUT UP...
-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:42 PM
This is quite eloquant from someone who claims to be a history scholar!!!
hahahahahah
Hey Evil Monkey, it's hard for him to take a day to think about that, he has to look for something to copy and paste, in order to defend that ludicrous accusation. Since I don't think the man has ever had an original thought, perhaps he got it from that state rep in Oklahoma that was caught on tape saying nearly the same thing he did.
I said I loved Jesus. I answered your question. You just don't get it through your thick skull.
I never said I loved Christ, you did.
SHUT UP...
Evil Monkey,
Sorry if you missed my earlier post. I commend you on your love of Jesus the Christ and your acceptance of him as your Savior.
I want your help. Tell me where you found enough information on this Christ to determine you love him and can accept him as Savior. I stopped picking at you some time ago but you still will not answer my simple and childish question and help me.
Btw, that's Evil monkey, Not Monkey.. I don't call you c.
OH you call that chastising when I asked someone to take more than 1 day to come up with his Apocalypse predication on how homosexuals are the downfall of civilization as we know it?
damn Nascar that was fast.
Monkey, please dont act like you havent chastised Michael for, "not researching...etc..."
We wouldnt have to go far back on these blogs to find proof of that.
Can you show me a quote?
Monkey, dont complain about being chastised, you do it to anyone who doesnt think like you.
-- Posted by tdc on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:33 PM
Correction: Anyone who believes in The Bible
-- Posted by tdc on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:35 PM
CORRECTION: anyone who doesn't THINK, when reading the Bible....
Correction: Anyone who believes in The Bible
That's very true. Honestly sometimes Nascar gets on my nerves, but along with his/her {forgive me for not knowing} arguments are some very noteworthy sources.
It's really ok to question the status quo, everyone talks about the Jews all the time, don't you remember when some idiot 6 million of them to their deaths, b/c few of them had the courage to question complacement. I delightfully engage in debate, it only strengthens my wisdom.
But Parkerbrothers and his litte "one down blah blah blah to go stuff" is a bit ridiculous. So childish that it has completely unseated all previous positive thoughts I once held of him.
tdc,
show me one place.
Christian Jeans, they aren't just holy....They're Holy.
Monkey, dont complain about being chastised, you do it to anyone who doesnt think like you.
Ever notice the ones doing the most condemning are the ones that scream the loudest that they are Christians? You know, the bible thumpers? I always thought that Christians weren't supposed to condemn, I learn more and more each day on this blog and get turned off more and more to their "beliefs"
He isn't bullying me. I really like it when someone wants to question me, I just don't like the way he is doing it. Christiangirl asked question etc and I don't mind answering them, but when I answer them and they keep at me without researching it. I find that a bit unnerving.
They don't have to agree with me either. That's what being a seperate being is about. There are alot of things I don't agree with when it comes to nascarfanatic, or darrick, or really anyone. But they don't chastise me, they show me why they believe, and I can either accept or not. I sure won't condemn them for it.
Awe, the new generation carpenter... Except Jesus didn't make a proft off of encouraging people to go into debt!
"Welcome to the Parker Brothers web site. We are an established, experienced home builder with hundreds of new homes built to date. Whether you need a condo, duplex, two story home, rancher or your own dream retirement home, Parker Brother homes can help.
At Parker Brothers, you benefit from 3 generations of accumulated experience, knowledge and proven track record in the construction industry. We are a full time and full service home building company."
I think we can determine from his testimony of his past along with your collaboration of it that he is a changed and changing man and gives credit to his loving Savior.
-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 11:13 PM
I know folks who have changed, without ever uttering a prayer? Is that possible? Happens everyday.
That drives me crazy nascar, someone that has been on here for what? 2 maybe 3 blogs and all the sudden knows all about Michael and has taken to "cyber bullying" Evil Monkey. And make no mistake about it, I have always loved reading what Evil has to say.
If he does this little research on a blog and knows all the answers I would hate to know how little research he does in his "business ventures" Quite scary to think about that.
I have a question, Parkerbrothers, if you're so devoted to God and Jesus and yadayada, then why are you so scared to tell anybody your name. It sounds like you have the anonymity blues. Are you that scared?
Stolen, it tends to happen. Someone who hasn't bothered to archive former blogs before than make an assessment, might I add a completely disastrous assessment, about Michael. Seriously parkerbrothers, just go read the old blogs and ponder Michael's very own contradictions. Quite pathetic.
parkerbrothers,
Honestly, I doubt you will ever know, or care why or how I know Jesus, the Son of God. And I do not need to tell you what is in my heart or about my personal relationship with God and his Son. The people who know me can see by my actions and words. And please tell me who Christ is, because he seems to be mentioned more than Jesus is.
The problem you have with me, seems to be personal, No idea why because I have never had any business dealings with you. Not sure if that is a good thing or not because I have never met you personally either. But I assure you, I have answered all of the questions you have asked. But you still can't seem to see it but Honestly I could care less what you think.
I just find it amusing that you want to discredit me for my belief when I had presented a few good sources that back up how I feel about the bible. Let me reiterate, the bible has good stories, alot of historical references, yet 600 books are missing from it. Wouldn't it them be truly the Word of God if it was entirely there? I find that a travesty.
Now, you try to push the issue how I feel about Jesus, God, and whether or not I profess I am a Christian then so be it. Yet the issues brought up in these blogs written by Michael is NOT whether Michael is a Christian or not, it is whether what he is stating is the truth or not. Now if I am wrong, then so be it. I can admit and apologize for it. But so far, I hadn't a reason to.
But to try and publicly delve into my personal life and my religious affiliation is downright sickening and low. And it shows no class and I find it unethical, and immature. If you decide to want to discuss this over dinner, I would be glad to do so, but to try and publicly push the limits of taste... Know what? I won't even go there.
Apparently YOU have never read any of his other blogs, perhaps you need to do some reading....I have been on and off here since August and this man preaches NOTHING but hate, but hey, if that's your cup of tea, then drink it up.
stolen25,
I am beginning to think my computer screen is displaying something other than yours and the other critics of Michael Bell.
I see his post telling of a loving God. A God that revealed his intolerance to sin (me) in his presence and providing a loving appeasement for it. There is no denying the wrathful nature of God to sin. It takes looking at the true magnitude of his wrath to sin to understand the great depth of his love for the sinner.
I also have seen Michael acknowledge his sinful nature which will be with him the rest of his life just like mine will be with me and yours with you. I think we can determine from his testimony of his past along with your collaboration of it that he is a changed and changing man and gives credit to his loving Savior.
Christian was mentioned exactly ZERO times...Jesus was a jew, they were and are his chosen ones, he could care less about America, if he did, I think he would have mentioned us somewhere. NO CHRISTIAN is a child of Israel. The only people mentioned going to heaven are the jews..someone has it all wrong. The only parts mentioned are the middle east and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if the Islams and the Muslims don't have it atleast a little more right than we do.
but hey, keep breaking the most important commandment and worship your false idol known as the bible. We will see how far that gets you.
Parkerbrothers, why don't you tell me how many times Christian was mentioned in the original Bible? Isn't it odd how Jesus never spoke any form language currently alive today, never was a Christian, in fact he was a Jew, and he never visited America. Sounds a lot like the God's that Islam worship... ?
Parkerbrothers
I have been reading your comments on here and to be honest, you are one of the most immature people I have ever had the displeasure of reading comments from. You just pick and pick and pick. Hate to think you are a supposed "business man" with your level of maturity that you show. Hope this gets you plenty of NEGATIVE publicity, since that is what you are so clearly after.
Evil Monkey,
Sorry for being confused. Where did you learn of this Christ you love and accept as Savior? If not from God's word then where? I want to learn.
Jay Pope is probably hoping Michael will take his "Westboro Baptist Church" thinking elsewhere. I notice how noone from his church is on here backing him up, they know he is giving them a bad name and how sad, that church might have been the one to save someone and they won't go because Mr. "Judgemental we are all frying in hell" is there.
You sir, are NOT close to the God that I know, He is a loving God, that accepts all his children, you seem to think that any of us that have flaws that YOU deem unworthy are going to hell. Do you think he has forgotten you were an alcoholic whore or does going to church and saying some prayers just make you better than everybody else? If he is the God you preach about, I am sure he hasn't forgotten your past transgressions and I am positive he isn't too pleased at the number of people YOU ALONE have turned off to religion
Geez Michael, it seems as much as you read the bible and have time to post on these blogs there isn't much time to go out there and be a Christian...
All talk and no action, is pretty pathetic, in your case it's just reality. People at your church tell me how you pretty much get on their nerves, they read your blogs and really don't like your name being associated with them. If your pastor agrees with your message so much, then WHY ISN'T JAY POPE on here HELPING YOU OUT? Ah, is it because he is a true man of god, and he has better things to do than scare people into falsehoods?
The Biblw says that the word was with God and the word became flesh so when I see my Bible, I see Jesus.
I went to church and got baptized and all that to.
Not until I recieved the Holy Spirit did I truly know Christ.
Acceptance of the Cross guarentees salvation and a place in Heaven.
The question is ?
As in God's temple are you wiling to stay in the Outer Court and just watch all the going-ons? or do you want to get as close to God as you can ?
The Bible gets me that close.
Thankful for Michael....for what??? Turning people off to an evil God?? I am thankful to Michael for nothing, for he has shown me that the devil can work through so called "men of God" by spreading all the hate and doomsday predicitons and bigotry while hiding behind God. Using God to further his agenda of hate and bigotry is no man of God, that is Satan fooling you all
Hmm, Michael gave me a very horrible impression of Jesus... Thank GOD, I don't use him to escape any persecution. I am able to stand up for myself, and not use Jesus as a scapegoat every time I do something wrong.
No idea why you are confused with my regard to the Bible, I pretty much told you why I don't believe it as the word of god.
nascarfanatic,
Then be thankful for Michael.
Umm, I heard about him on these blogs...
I don't deny it, I have accepted jesus as my savior. I did so years ago, probably before most of you were born.
-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 9:38 PM
EvilMonkey, That is the best thing I have heard from you and you could not have said anything any better.
I am not going to lie though. I do truly wonder where you learned of this Jesus you claim to love and now accept as Saviour. From the bottom of my heart I am curious as how you came to this point. I hope your path was easier than mine. You honestly do confuse me though with your regaurd to the Bible. Where else did you learn of our Savior?
How am I denying Christ? I was baptized, I went to church, but just because I do not believe exactly like how you do? I am denied entry? When jesus was on the cross and what did he say to the criminal next to him? Did he say, "I will see you in heaven?" Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Mar 14, 2008, at 8:14 PM
Evil Monkey, I was baptized twice in a church and still discovered I was lost.
Tell me about this Jesus you know and where did you learn enough about him to claim a love for him?
Admittedly I have only briefly indulged myself with the Edict of Milan and the Inquisitions. Are these sources where you found and relied upon to understand this Christ you tell me about. I missed it.
I don't deny it, I have accepted jesus as my savior. I did so years ago, probably before most of you were born.
I'm saying it right now: I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior. I don't deny it. If you have accepted him, then you won't deny him.