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No Respecter of Persons

Posted Friday, January 23, 2009, at 1:02 PM

Seems like the hot topic on several blogs[ not just here but everywhere]has gone back to the old issue of racism, discrimination or whatever you call it.

Acts 10:34 states that "God is no respecter of persons" and he is the only entity in the universe that can boast of this.

Regardless of how much we want and strive there will always be some form of it in the world, it is just human nature.

The argument for English only in metro Nashville[I am for it]probably won't pass but it shows the problems we have to deal with.

Does Sonic or Hooters discriminate for not hiring male servers?

I have noticed that in several cities, they hold beauty pageants for just Blacks, or just Hispanics or just Asians, and nothing is said, if there was a white only pageant would there be a uproar, probably.

As far as I know businesses still have the right to refuse service, if not let me know please.

God is the only non-respecter of persons because whosoever calls on the name of His Son will be Saved.[Acts 2:21]]

The word whosoever covers a lot of who's , in the Greek it means any, all, anybody.

In Christ we are all one, that is the catch, you have to be in Christ.

The only one that will achieve "oneness" here on the earth will be the Antichrist, something I will not be a part of.

To stand against something just because of religious, moral and biblical is not the in thing these days, well I just won't be in style.

If I were in a position to hire a person for a position in the Lord's Crossroads ministry which I will be caretaker of, and I had applicants consisting of a Atheist, Muslim, or Trans gender or a homosexual who were all well qualified for the job and a Christian who was not that qualified , who do you think I would hire?

My hiring would not be discriminate either, for hiring anything other than the Christian would be bad for business.

But I am sure I would face lawsuits, besides would you want to see a guy in those sonic outfits much less a hooters outfit?


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"My hiring would not be discriminate either, for hiring anything other than the Christian would be bad for business."

Strange, Church is a business? So someone needs to pay to save their soul?

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 1:15 PM

There are probably some husbands out there who'd be cute as can be in those uniforms.

As for your hiring practices,I agree with the principle but I can't help but recall an incident where some folks were arguing over whether a transgressor was evil or a fool.

One of the older and wiser folk said:

"I hope he's evil because you can't repent from stupid!"

Maybe,you could follow God's example and use each according to his strengths.

That way,the infidels could be exposed to the Word,the "works-in-progress" and seekers could see the love of God in action and the unqualified stauch believer could build up his skill set while revealing wisdom that would HAVE to have come from God because he wouldn't have the smarts to come up with it on his own.

(Why else would God have used to many "ordinary" people to perform extraordinary tasks on His behalf?)

Let the Lord fill your net for you.

He might give you a few fish you'd have thrown back but you'll wind up with a better roster than if you did all the picking on your own or let the world make your choices for you.

-- Posted by quantumcat on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 1:27 PM

Most churches have people on their payrolls whether they be accountants, office personal, Organist, cleaning and maintenance or some even have daycare workers.

But most churches employ people from within their members, if possible, especially in smaller churches. I guess that way they do not have to deal with applications from different religions other than their own.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 1:52 PM

I'm glad to see that you're following through on your promise to keep the topic of homosexuality on the back burner.

-- Posted by Nobody'sFool on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 1:58 PM

That is true, maybe the question should be, would a Christian based business such as a bookstore, restaurant or whatever have the right to not hire or to refuse service?

-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 2:00 PM

I stated that entire blogs would not be devoted, a back burner still gets used every now and then.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 2:01 PM

Considering that this is your very first blog since making your declaration, I felt the need to point it out.

Since you brought it up, what about being a part of your congregation? Are homosexuals welcome to come worship in your church?

-- Posted by Nobody'sFool on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 2:08 PM

They would be welcomed, bit would be told that the lifestyle was sinful, and that God can and will deliver them from it, same as all other sins.

The bible does give ground rules for excommunicating members.

There is a proper procedure to follow.

This would be used for habitual problem people especially people in leadership positions and especially myself and my family.

Habitual drinking will not be tolerated, no kind of drugs, affairs or violations of the law.

God's word will always provide the solution.

Matt18:15-18 explains this.

other verses are as follows:

Matt.18:17

1Cor5:5

1Tim 1:20

2 Thes.3:6

2Thes.3:14-15

1Cor.5:6

1Cor.5:5

2Tim.2:25-26

I would say the answer is yes, but if there is no change and they are blatant in flaunting their lifestyle, then the board would pray, and then vote and a decision would be reached.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 2:27 PM

No drugs or no drug ABUSE?

I have to clarify that as some sects reject the use of medical treatment.

You'll have enough people arguing over their daily caffeine and nicotine and theobromine without having to determine if insulin or thyroid or estrogen or potassium,etc. count as drugs or restoration of the body's normal components.

Violations of the law would also require prayer and thought before judgements were made.

In cases where laws are unjust,the only appropriate role for a believer would be in opposition to those rules.

It would be the Christian's duty to try and change such rules and interfere with the harm they would cause in the meantime.

-- Posted by quantumcat on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 3:27 PM

Michael- aren't you the same person who recently posted about how upset you were when your own mother was asked to leave a church, because she did something that the church deemed inappropriate?

I smell hypocrisy.

As a man of God, it is your responsibility to bring people to God. How on earth are you going to teach the sinners, if you don't show them basic respect? I personally would never be a part of any church that would turn its back on a person, based on personal opinion of them.

If your doors are only going to be open to saints, you're going to have a hard time filling the pews.

-- Posted by Nobody'sFool on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 4:44 PM

I did not say it would only be open to Saints, I want all the sinners to come.

I don't want them to stay that way, or to think it all right to think you can.

I would not just ask somebody to leave, but if they are there to cause a scene or stay in sin habitually, then what do you propose I do?

-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 5:31 PM

Pray for them, of course.

-- Posted by Nobody'sFool on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 8:26 PM

I would say the answer is yes, but if there is no change and they are blatant in flaunting their lifestyle, then the board would pray, and then vote and a decision would be reached.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 2:27 PM

-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 8:45 PM

This is just like Joe the Plumber who "wanted to start a business" and had no business or plumbers license and then said he'd be hurt under Obama's tax plan.. Basically a fraud, pretending to be something he's not for one reason or another. I, and many others plan to attend your church, wherever it is... and you won't even know who we are.

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 9:37 PM

You are more than welcome.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 9:41 PM

You say that now.. Just wait till the dialogue begins.

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 9:45 PM

If a scene is made you will be asked to leave, if not on your own, you will be escorted out.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 9:48 PM

Hehe... They did that to Jesus when he told them the truth too... Roman much?

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 9:55 PM

Michael,

You said, "But I am sure I would face lawsuits, besides would you want to see a guy in those sonic outfits much less a hooters outfit?"

I go to Sonic every once in a while, and I don't see anything wrong with what they wear. Am I missing something?

-- Posted by LiveLaughLove on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 10:12 PM

How would he know what a hooters outfit looks like, Do Christians go to Hooters just for the Chicken Strips?

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 11:14 PM

I'm sure it's the oysters on the half shell that draws them in...

-- Posted by LiveLaughLove on Fri, Jan 23, 2009, at 11:31 PM

Dale from King of the Hill worked at Hooters... That was a hilarious episode.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 2:26 AM

I have not been or desire to go to Hooters, I have send the commercials.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 8:28 AM

michael,

I have been to Hooters.

The remnant Old Man in me still suggests going back.

The New Man that Christ placed in me years ago knows I should not go back and be exposed to a temptation.

I am confident that what he started in me He will finish.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 9:00 AM

I have not been or desire to go to Hooters, I have send the commercials.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 8:28 AM

Who do you send them to?

-- Posted by stolen25 on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 1:30 PM

Personally, I don't think Hooters is such a big deal. At least you know what you're walking into before you ever even open the door. You can basically see the same thing hanging out at the bowling alley on Saturday night.

Besides, there's one thing about Hooters that should make you very happy. The building is virtually free of homosexual men.

-- Posted by Nobody'sFool on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 2:11 PM

I meant seen, sue me! I could say send them to the trash with a lot of other stuff on T.V.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 2:31 PM

Patience Michael. They do not know what they are doing.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 2:45 PM

I know I have a lot to live for and great things to do, but anytime the Lord wants to come get me, whether by Rapture or otherwise, I am ready!

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 2:49 PM

I'm ready too but it is on His timetable. He will let us know when it is time to go.

Hopefully today some one new gets ready to go and experiences the peace and joy of knowing where Home Sweet Home is.

There is nothing that can compare to the Blessed Assurance.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 3:01 PM

When you think about it, it is nothing but love of another precious soul that holds Him back. Out of love He holds back hoping to gather one more precious soul. Maybe one more today?

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 3:04 PM

The women at Hooters dress that way because it is the attire required. Nothing sinful there. A Christian could eat there just like anybody else. If man or woman decides to lust after someone that works there, then it would seem to me they would be the one who needs to pray for forgiveness.

So who in your church gets to approve the dress code? If you need any help, I bet the school board could help. Just kidding

-- Posted by For the kids on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 3:29 PM

in the garden,

Sorry if you got the impression I was talking like I was above everybody.

I do not want you to think that I believe this Blessed Assurance has only been given to me. Many people have it. Are you not Blessed with Assurance?

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 3:32 PM

in the garden,

I am not questioning your faith. I am glad you have faith. My faith is no better than anyone elses faith. My faith is in his Faith.

Do you know of anything that could ever get any better than the Blessed Assurance we have been given?

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 4:13 PM

wow, what a nerve this has hit. If i went to your church Micheal would i be welcome without judgement?

I have body piercings, and tattoos and look Goth/Emo.

My heart is all Jesus. I do the Word of God. In word and Deed but, because I look differant and not cookie cutter "christian" I might be shunned.

My look reaches people that most churchy folks would deem devils or satanist... (so far from the truth.)

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 4:50 PM

and how does one become a blogger on the Times site??

I have some issues i could talk about...

Church-ian-ity for one...

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 4:55 PM

I have body piercings, and tattoos and look Goth/Emo.

My look reaches people that most churchy folks would deem devils or satanist... (so far from the truth.)

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 4:50 PM

4fabfelines,

That is because we all look at the skin more than what is under it too quick sometimes.

I like the description of your heart. I wish everyones heart was like it.

I do not think Jesus will be looking at your tatoos. He sure will look at that heart of His though. Rest assured He is proud of your heart.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 5:12 PM

The looks don't matter to me or God , it is what is in the heart.

I have a dear friend[now deceased] who was covered in tattoos, and hair down to his waste and was one of the most devout Christians I ever knew.

But the question I ask is, Is there a cutoff point to what can be considered Christian?

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 6:16 PM

waist, sorry

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 7:28 PM

If you want to get into a "holier than thou" contest I don't think Marvin would go to the head of the list. I think his comments prick so deep because they come so close to the Truth. Every time we get into one of these "don't judge" arguments I notice he and Michael and the most judged of all.

-- Posted by devan on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 7:28 PM

devan,

Who's the head of the list? I am interested.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 7:57 PM

No particular #1. Check back through the blogs for the trail of stones. That should lead you to the guilty parties.

-- Posted by devan on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 8:20 PM

If you want to get into a "holier than thou" contest I don't think Marvin would go to the head of the list. I think his comments prick so deep because they come so close to the Truth. Every time we get into one of these "don't judge" arguments I notice he and Michael are the most judged of all.

-- Posted by devan on Sat, Jan 24, 2009, at 7:28 PM

Very well put!!

-- Posted by bcpwoman on Sun, Jan 25, 2009, at 5:53 AM

in the garden

I have never meant to convey the thought I was any holier than anyone. I know where my righteousness lays and it is not of my own. My righeousness was imputed to me.

My righteousness is not what saves me. It is the imputed righteousness of Christ alone that declares me justified.

I couldn't save a Krispy Creme doughnut this morning let alone my soul.

By no means am I "Holy". I know what it means to fall short of the Glory of God and believe me I fall short. I am a sinner and that is the only thing Christ came to save.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sun, Jan 25, 2009, at 7:37 AM

I am the same as Marvin, nothing on my own, but with Jesus I am perfect, righteous, flawless,because I am saved.

My flesh may still sin, but they are washed away.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sun, Jan 25, 2009, at 7:43 AM

We all are sinners. Some seek Christ's righteousness for imputation which brings the declaration of justification with it and some seek to create their own righteousness which has damnation following it.

From the beginning the law was to be our schoolmaster. To show us how easy it is to be a sinner in God's eyes and provoke us into seeking the needed propitiation.

I believe Jesus even tried to simplify this understanding with us when he replied to the lawyer trying to convey to him that even with the law being reduced to only two commandments we all still fall short.

Mathew 22

34But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.

35Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,

36Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38This is the first and great commandment.

39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

I sincerly believe Jesus was trying to convey the plan of salvation in this teaching. It is remarkable how Jesus immediately followed with His own next question.

41While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,

42Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David.

43He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,

44The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

45If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?

46And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.

I believe the reason they could not answer Him a word was they could not spiritually see what was standing right in front of them. The Christ was standing in front of them asking a question about Himself and they stumbled all over it.

They were so caught up in their own self righteousness they missed recognizing the ONLY propitiation for sin was looking them straight in the eye.

Even with the law being reduced to the two commandments, I still recognize I fall short each and every day.

I know I do not love the Lord with "all " my heart. My flesh will not let go of "all" things else. It is an ongoing daily struggle to let go of many things that my flesh still craves and come into perfection with my God having "all" my heart "all" the time.

Be thankful to God that out of love He accepted the sacrafice of His son's righteousness as an imputable righteousness to us. Without it we are lost. With it we are saved. There is nothing more precious than the Blood of Jesus.

http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/n/b/nbtbl...

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sun, Jan 25, 2009, at 9:01 AM

parkerbrothers: yes i appreciate your attitude too.

I want to reflect in my heart God's love for people and his creatures.

If we would be Jesus with Skin On it would make people watch the attitude in which they do things,.

Some of the meanest people i have seen are those who call themselves "holiness" people.

I was so ashamed once in a resturaunt where this family was just rude to the waitress and treated her badly, left a terrible tip.

I apologized to the girl on the behalf of christians and told her not to hold God responsable for their terrible witness of love.

A excellant book on this subject is: When bad christians happen to good people.

I think it aught to be required reading for any new believer.

(or old one for that matter)

any how...As Mother Teresa said: If you judge people, you have no time to love them.

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Sun, Jan 25, 2009, at 2:16 PM

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Sun, Jan 25, 2009, at 2:17 PM

4fabfelines,

No doubt some of us Christians can set some pretty bad examples that can be miscontrued to an unbeliever and damage the cause of Christ. Old habits do not break easy.

I've never read the book you mentioned but I will order it and read it if you say it is a good read. The sound of the title alone hints at it being a worthwhile endevour.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sun, Jan 25, 2009, at 2:36 PM

The Coal Basket Bible

The story is told of an old man who lived on a farm in the mountains of

Kentucky with his young grandson. Each morning, Grandpa was up early

sitting at the kitchen table reading from his old worn-out Bible.

His grandson who wanted to be just like him tried to imitate him in any way

he could. One day the grandson asked, "Papa, I try to read the Bible just

like you but I don't understand it, and what I do understand I forget as

soon as I close the book. What good does reading the Bible do?"

The Grandfather quietly turned from putting coal in the stove and said,

Take this coal basket down to the river and bring back a basket of water."

The boy did as he was told, even though all the water leaked out before he

could get back to the house.

The grandfather laughed and said, "You will have to move a little faster

next time," and sent him back to the river with the basket to try again.

This time the boy ran faster, but again the basket was empty before he

returned home. Out of breath, he told his grandfather that it as

impossible to carry water in a basket," and he went to get a bucket instead.

The old man said, "I don't want a bucket of water; I want a basket of water

You can do this. You're just not trying hard enough," and he went out

the door to watch the boy try again.

At this point, the boy knew it was impossible, but he wanted to show his

grandfather that even if he ran as fast as he could, the water would leak

out before he got far at all. The boy scooped the water and ran hard, but

when he reached his grandfather, the basket was again empty. Out of breath,

he said, "See Papa, its useless!"

"So you think it is useless?" the old man said. "Look at the basket."

The boy looked at the basket and for the first time he realized that the

basket looked different. Instead of a dirty old coal basket, it was clean.

"Son, that's what happens when you read the Bible. You might not understand

or remember everything, but when you read it, it will change you from the

inside out." That is the work of God in our lives. To change us from the

inside out and to slowly transform us into the image of His son.

Take time to read a portion of God's word each day, and remind a friend by

sharing this story.

"Live Simply. Love Generously. Care Deeply. Speak Kindly. Leave the

Rest to God."

God has not called us to see through each other, But to see each other

through.

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

This seemed fitting for the topic, from a sweet dear Aunt of mine.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sun, Jan 25, 2009, at 3:12 PM

parkerbrothers: the book is by Dave Burchett.

It is really awesome. If i had another copy i would give u one.

Peace... have a great rest of the week.

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Sun, Jan 25, 2009, at 3:48 PM

4fabfelines,

I just ordered it from Amazon.

When I seen the author you posted I recognized the name. I think I have another book by him. I went home to search through the library but can not find what I am looking for.

Again thanks for the reading recommendation.

Peace be unto you also.

Remember that is the first words of the risen Christ when He found the eleven and the rest that were with them all together.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sun, Jan 25, 2009, at 4:44 PM

parkerbrothers: there is another by Dave Burchett that is excellant if you know someone who has gone through spiritual abuse in the church due to abusive leadership.

It is called Bring 'em back alive.

BEST book i have read on the subject.

We had a abusive leader for years and i needed alot of healing.

Pax Deo, 4fabfelines

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Mon, Jan 26, 2009, at 8:35 AM

I am confused. Not having to be "born again or saved" as some of you are, I have a question.

Do you actually believe that because you have been "saved" the automatic right to judge others is freely given to you? I don't know what bible you are reading but none that I know of gives that so called right to anyone. I would much rather open my mind and my heart here on earth than to stand in front of God one day and try to explain to him why I felt I had the right to judge anyone. It sounds like some of you feel that you are in control of a judgement attitude because you have built your own pulpit. Not the kind of church that I would ever want to attend.

-- Posted by up north on Tue, Jan 27, 2009, at 6:50 AM

up north:

I don't judge at all. The only thing i know is this: I was a alcoholic, a very depressed drug addict. I gave Jesus Christ my heart, and he loved me unconditionally. That is all i need.

The church is a differant matter. They are made up of imperfect people just like me.

I pray i walk in love and kindness each day, and if i should miss it I would ask for your forgiveness for my stupidity and blindness.

4fabfelines

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Tue, Jan 27, 2009, at 8:50 AM

up north,

What does it mean to be judgemental?

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Tue, Jan 27, 2009, at 10:00 AM

I pray i walk in love and kindness each day, and if i should miss it I would ask for your forgiveness for my stupidity and blindness.

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Tue, Jan 27, 2009, at 8:50 AM

I do believe you have got it figured out. That is a great attitude to maintain.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Tue, Jan 27, 2009, at 10:01 AM

No Respecter of Persons...

You titled this blog well since that is OBVIOUSLY what you are!!

-- Posted by stolen25 on Wed, Jan 28, 2009, at 7:34 AM

stolen25,

Why are you feeling angry at Michael today?

Why does his Biblical warnings and Biblical solutions upset you?

I believe if you would just take the time to consider what he is saying I think you could find A Joy and Peace to replace the anger you feel.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Wed, Jan 28, 2009, at 8:44 AM

You want my respect, then earn it.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Wed, Jan 28, 2009, at 3:57 PM

Acts 10:34 states that "God is no respecter of persons" and he is the only entity in the universe that can boast of this.

You want my respect, then earn it.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Wed, Jan 28, 2009, at 3:57 PM

WOW!

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Wed, Jan 28, 2009, at 6:49 PM

If that was taken as a rude comment , it was not.

A couple of the commenter's have been busting my chops since day one.I have gone out of my way to not flair up[not always successful though] They have no respect for me nor I for them.

I do give thanks and respect to Evil Monkey for going out of his way to say he was sorry for posting a comment that was not meant towards me, though it could have been taken that way.

We have talked since then and have come to agree that some comments can be taken out of text.

He is not here to bust me nor I him. We just have different points of view, and my zeal and probably his gets in the way of sensible communications sometime.

Sometimes what is in our head or heart, does not transfer to our fingers sometime.

The 4 or 5 others who always jump on the bandwagon against me, that is your GOD given right to do so, but I will continue to do what I believe is God's will and especially his will for me and in my life.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Wed, Jan 28, 2009, at 7:30 PM

michael,

Interesting comment and you are right. You could not even introduce yourself on your first blog before the hecklers started in on you and your message. Go back to the archives and click on the very first blog you did introducing yourself and family and sure enough you got skinned right off the bat by the now has become usuals. Within the first 5 blogs you had almost all the hecklers riding you.

As I have said before that is what made me think you must have a thick hide. 208 blogs later and they still scream out with anger and rage when they hear the Word.

Keep up the good work though. It is worth it in the long run.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Wed, Jan 28, 2009, at 8:06 PM

Michael Bell, Let me ask you something.

Why do you suppose their was a Black Entertainment TV, Black Pageant, or African Methodist Episocal Church created?

Their were many beautiful black women that wanted to participate in these beauty pagents in the past but they would not allow them, it was whites only. Blacks were allowed to be in TV as early as the 1920s but only as "Slaves". Their were a lot of "Talented" actors, singers, dancers that wanted to perform in Television that are black; the dances and the songs of (hip hop, rap, R&B, jazz, blues, raggae, etc.) are of a different style than whites were use to, so these type of talents were not televised or encouraged. The blacks in the white church could not participate in the business of the churches, they had to sit in a certain area and be quiet, they could not praise the lord when the holy spirit came upon them. They eventually began their own church. But I'm sure you know all this, right, but you can not understand "WHY" their is Black pagents, TV, etc. You say blacks will be upset if their was a White only, pagent, TV, Church? Sweet heart that is exactly the reason they were created, so blacks can participate too. Black pagents only were created in 1968, the same year you and I both were born. Blacks were not allowed to participate in White pagents until 2 years later in 1970.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Americ...

You want to be a minister and preach Gods word, If none of the churches would allow you to preach in their church, what would you do?

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Thu, Jan 29, 2009, at 2:52 PM

Michaelbell,

When you start up your church you will no doubt get people who confess they are born again and believe this "Blessed Assurance" has been given to them!

This means they are no longer under the law, but the two commandments.

Now your congregation would not be bound by your new church by-laws and regulations, because they are not under the law, any law, because law is sin.

So if you remove anyone from your church, you are judging them as sinners and are a sinner yourself because you are invoking the law (sin) on God's children.

Does the church have the right to cast people out of their church? Most people who are asked to leave will not return nor bring charges against the church, but if they could make a discrimination sue against the church, you would face serious...?

Although there is a separation of the church and state, you will probable find many state laws you must obey just to operate as a non-profit church, overriding your authority as a minister or proprietor of a religion.

Pbros confesses that a homosexual, once saved can continue to be a homosexual because of his "Blessed Assurance". According to his teaching, homosexuals are no longer condemned from heaven, so they shouldn't be condemned from the church.

Of course, this would be your church and not pbrothers' church, so you have to do what you have to, unless pbros is a board member in your church.

A questionnaire asking your congregation if they are homosexual or not, would be out of the question!

Just keep preaching like you do on your blogs and they will stop coming to your church.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 3:16 PM

The bible gives grounds for dismissal of members, that is what I would go by. Almost the same as a club membership being revoked.

Though the church is much more than a club, Though hard preaching and honest preaching will usually drive those who are guilty of the sin out.

I know it used to me!

-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 4:16 PM

Unique-Lies,

You are confused again in your references to me.

By the way, you have never returned the two herds of goats. I still think you were sacraficing them back then in hopes of some attonement you had dreamed up when they all ran off and left your ole tale up on the mountain. Or perhaps that booger man you dreamed about did actually show up and the goats cut a trail down the mountain leaving you to deal with him.

Just joking with you Mr. Unique.

Glad to see you back on here safely off the mountain, with or without the goats :)))

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 4:52 PM

This means they are no longer under the law, but the two commandments.

Posted by Unique-Lies on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 3:16 PM

Unique-Lies,

Those two commandments are a lot like the others. They too are meant to be the schoolmaster that show us how far we fall short. No man but one could keep the original commandments and no man but one can keep the commandments when they are reduced to two.

There is still the need for an attonement for the sin God sees when we miss even only those two marks.

That attomement is still the One that gave the two commandments. It is none other than Christ himself. It was the last needed Sacrafice and it was a Finished Work of His that attones. He is properly revealed in the New Testament and perfectly prophesised about in the Old Testament.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 5:06 PM

parkerbrothers, you said:

"Those two commandments are a lot like the others. They too are meant to be the schoolmaster that show us how far we fall short."

Those Two Commandments are nothing like the other Ten Commandments! The Ten Commandments list ten things that we shalt not do. The Two Commandments list two things we should do. Notice the difference?

How can these Two Commandments show us how far we fall short? What can you compare them to?

You continued with, "No man but one could keep the original commandments and no man but one can keep the commandments when they are reduced to two."

If you or anyone can not Love God with all their heart, mind and soul and love their neighbors as much as themselves, then they shouldn't be allowed in God's Kingdom!

You contradicted yourself by saying "There is still the need for an attonement for the sin God sees when we miss even only those two marks." AND "It was the last needed Sacrafice and it was a Finished Work of His that attones."

Everyone knows that Jesus Christ is the atonement for everyone's sins. Jesus died once for everyone. There is no more atonement. It has already been done as you confessed above in the last sentence: "It was the last needed Sacrifice and it was a Finished Work of His that attones."

Jesus paid for everyone's sins 2,000 years ago when he was crucified. We are atoned when we accept him as our savior.

2 Peter 2:20-21

20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Sun, Feb 1, 2009, at 8:05 PM

Those Two Commandments are nothing like the other Ten Commandments! The Ten Commandments list ten things that we shalt not do. The Two Commandments list two things we should do. Notice the difference?

Posted by Unique-Lies on Sun, Feb 1, 2009, at 8:05 PM

Unique-Lies,

You must of not read the 10 commandments lately or you would have noticed they are not all do nots.

Irregardless of being a do or a do not they all represent an unacheivable goal.

Only one has been able to fulfill them.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Mon, Feb 2, 2009, at 5:33 PM

You contradicted yourself by saying "There is still the need for an attonement for the sin God sees when we miss even only those two marks." AND "It was the last needed Sacrafice and it was a Finished Work of His that attones."

Posted by Unique-Lies on Sun, Feb 1, 2009, at 8:05 PM

Unique-Lies,

There is no contradiction there. Only a little over reading into on your part.

There is indeed a need for the atonement of our sins. Our sin is still sin in God's eyes unless it is covered by the blood of the Lamb.

Only by Faith can we be covered by the attonement. Not by any of our works so we could boast.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Mon, Feb 2, 2009, at 5:49 PM

If you or anyone can not Love God with all their heart, mind and soul and love their neighbors as much as themselves, then they shouldn't be allowed in God's Kingdom!

Posted by Unique-Lies on Sun, Feb 1, 2009, at 8:05 PM

Unique-Lies,

That is your opinion of a should or should not.

Jesus summed up the entire commandments in being reduced to two of which hang the entire law and prophets.

Actually the first of the two new covered the first four of the original 10 and the second of the simplified 2 actually cover the last 6 of the original 10.

These two commandments and even the 10 Commandments were not given by God to condemn us. They were given to convict us of our shortcomings and shortfall. The simplified 2 and/or the greater 10 Commandments are a great mirror mirror to "reflect" the true condition of our souls. When we examine our life in light of the 2 or the 10 Commandments, we should realize our shortcomings and our need for redemption.

No one has ever been able to keep the original 10 nor the simplified 2 but one.

You are right about we shouldn't be allowed in heaven. But.......by grace through faith it is possible.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Mon, Feb 2, 2009, at 6:08 PM

God puts more on your plate than you can handle doesn't He!

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Mon, Feb 2, 2009, at 8:33 PM

No uniquelies, I would think He puts exactly what He wants on our plates for us to learn and grow from.

The Father always wants his children to grow and unless He puts something on our plates we will never grow. I try to see the nutritional value on all things He prepares for my plate.

A little broccoli and cauliflower on the plate never hurts any one?

If you think about it, some of the worse tasting things on the plate are the best to grow with.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Mon, Feb 2, 2009, at 10:08 PM

using the analogy of food on our plate... not all good things are good for everybody. some can handle them, some can not.

For some unknown reason, I have developed an allergy in my adult life to pork and beef! That means no hamburgers, lasagna, tacos, pork chops, greenbeans seasoned with bacon... you get the picture! Even though for billions of people, it holds no adverse effect, for me - I would be gasping for breathe from my throat swelling shut!

God withholds from us what He desires, maybe to make us realize that what we want is not always best for us...

-- Posted by bkpow on Tue, Feb 3, 2009, at 8:16 AM

bkpow, My daugter is allergic to fish, chicken, and peanut butter. I do not recall her having these food allergies as a toddler. She slowly started developing ezcema, and wheezing around 2 -3 years old, the food allergies came a year or two later. I believe it has something to do with immunization shots, or medicine making people prone to more allergies to be quite honest. I trully hope their is no type of conspiracy developed behind that. But their are more kids than ever before starting to have allergy problems. Sorry for getting of the subject.

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Tue, Feb 3, 2009, at 10:41 AM

Thought I would pass this on, it came from a old school buddy of mine, because we did not thank the one who gave us the blessing, we are now under the cursing.

I think this could be done.

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Sun 10:51pm

Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists, Obama supporters, et all:

We have stuck together since the late 1950's, but the

whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future

generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two

ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right, so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile, slate it up to

irreconcilable differences, and go on our own ways.

Here is a model dissolution agreement:

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by

landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement.

After that it should be relatively easy! Our respective

representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such

distinct and disparate tastes. We don't like redistributive taxes so

you can keep them.

You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU..

Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and

the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie

O'Donnell (you are however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle

big enough to move them).

We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations,

pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street. You can have your beloved

homeless, homeboys, hippies, and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan

hockey moms, greedy CEO's, and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give

you NBC and Hollywood.

You can make nice with Iran, Palestine, and France and

we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can

have the peaceniks and war protestors. When our allies or way of life are under

assault, we'll provide them job security.

We'll keep our Judeo-Christian Values. You are welcome

to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, and Shirley McClain. You can have

the U.N. But we will no longer be paying the bill. We'll keep the

SUV's, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare, if you can find any

practicing doctors (that is practicing, Howard Dean) who will follow to your

turf (sic). We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right.

We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and The National Anthem. I'm sure

you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing,

Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.

We'll practice trickledown economics and you can give

trickle up poverty its best shot.

Since it often so offends you we'll keep our History, our Name, and our

Flag.

Would you agree to this? If so please pass it along to

other like-minded patriots and if you do not agree just hit delete and hang

on.

In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you ANWAR

on who will need whose

help in 15 years.

Sincerely,

John J. Wall

Law Student and an American

P.S. Please take Barbra Streisand,Puff Daddy,Bruce Springstein, Bill Maher,Katie Couric

-- Posted by michaelbell on Wed, Feb 4, 2009, at 5:41 AM

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Says that no innocent life should be taken, yet he condones abortion for any reason at any stage, yeah right!

-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, Feb 6, 2009, at 5:23 AM

Thought I would pass this on, it came from a old school buddy of mine, because we did not thank the one who gave us the blessing, we are now under the cursing.I think this could be done.Share

-- Posted by michaelbell on Wed, Feb 4, 2009, at 5:41 AM

michaelbell, it amazes me how you continue to claim you are preaching Gods' Word, but every so "often" you carry discriminative undertones toward others. Although what you posted is someone elses thoughts and words, you made a point to post it on your blog as an acceptance of it, therefore becoming your own words. I find it very hard to believe God placed this article on your heart to post on the blogs for others to see. Let me say this to you, all (man/human) belong to God, and if you feel the need to keep voicing division, seperatism, discriminative sarcassam in your posts, do not claim your doings is of God. Because it is not of God, but of division and hate. Have you ever heard the term "Together will Stand, But divided will Fall" This article used relationship and divorce as a metaphor but forgot the "Vows under God (For Better or Worse)". No one saids everyone has to agree with each other, and people are entitle to their opinion of others being too liberal or too conservative. But some of the words in your article are of discriminative undertones which you from time to time manage to posts.

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country

We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations,

pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies, and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's, and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood.

Your wordings you chose to posts, shows the "True You" and God don't like ugly! This is exactly why people argue with you on your posts. You speak from self, not from God.

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Fri, Feb 6, 2009, at 11:49 PM

Michael Bell, Let me ask you something.

Why do you suppose their was a Black Entertainment TV, Black Pageant, or African Methodist Episocal Church created?

Their were many beautiful black women that wanted to participate in these beauty pagents in the past but they would not allow them, it was whites only. Blacks were allowed to be in TV as early as the 1920s but only as "Slaves". Their were a lot of "Talented" actors, singers, dancers that wanted to perform in Television that are black; the dances and the songs of (hip hop, rap, R&B, jazz, blues, raggae, etc.) are of a different style than whites were use to, so these type of talents were not televised or encouraged. The blacks in the white church could not participate in the business of the churches, they had to sit in a certain area and be quiet, they could not praise the lord when the holy spirit came upon them. They eventually began their own church. But I'm sure you know all this, right, but you can not understand "WHY" their is Black pagents, TV, etc. You say blacks will be upset if their was a White only, pagent, TV, Church? Sweet heart that is exactly the reason they were created, so blacks can participate too. Black pagents only were created in 1968, the same year you and I both were born. Blacks were not allowed to participate in White pagents until 2 years later in 1970.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Americ...

You want to be a minister and preach Gods word, If none of the churches would allow you to preach in their church, what would you do?

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Thu, Jan 29, 2009, at 2:52 PM

You made comments about Blacks and other ethnic groups having pageants, Tv shows etc. and making it to be racial discrimination against whites. And I asked you the question "WHY DO YOU THINK THEY CREATED THESE IN THE FIRST PLACE?" I'm still waiting for you to answer "MICHAEL BELL"......

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Fri, Feb 6, 2009, at 11:58 PM

You answer is, yes !it used to be that way and I cannot change that, but in this "time of equality" should there be any discrimination of races?

People say that Christian's are supposed to love everyone and tolerate everything, I can't quiet find that in the Bible.

Jesus says to love your brother, if you are a brother in Christ, or sister, then you have my love and compassion.

To a Christian [a true Christian] the Bible is his guidebook and only the ones who follow with him are his brothers and sisters.

Some churches I would not want to preach in.

I still plan with the Lord's will to have a building later this year.

I can preach anywhere!

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sat, Feb 7, 2009, at 7:52 AM

Momof3&3step&1gran,

I can almost perfect color blindness until you and others (Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc., etc) remind me so often of their time when there was a most definite huge distinction of color. It seems they are forever going to remind us of their huge color difference. I think we all could become color blind if they would stop reminding us that we should remember it.

Can not they ever get over it and move on.

We can not change yesterday but we can help shape tomorrow. If they would quit screaming "I'm black" I might just not even notice they were?

I honestly believe Jesus is color blind but undoubtedly someone will complain they are being discriminated against at the white pearly gates.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Feb 7, 2009, at 9:52 AM

You answer is, yes !it used to be that way and I cannot change that, but in this "time of equality" should there be any discrimination of races? .-- Posted by michaelbell on Sat, Feb 7, 2009, at 7:52 AM

And my answer to your question is "no", but unfortunately their still is, not only whites but in ALL races. These organizations were started up because blacks were not accepted for certain roles in acting, singing, dancing, modeling, or any other role of entertainment, as well as good paying jobs. Even in this day and time their are still talks of blacks being paid lesser than whites for the same jobs, and men being paid more than women for the same job. Just because they allow blacks to take part in different types of roles now is no reason for them to "Close Down, or Stop their businesses". "Urban culture" today is still not accepted by some businesses, "SOME" of the dances and lyrics are very extreme and often needs monitured or rated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_cultu...

That is why it will continue to be in a category all by itself. The thing now though, Mr. Bell, is white children, asian, hispanics, etc. "are" doing hip-hop dancing, singing, and rapping. This is (NOT) a black people only type of culture anymore, many races that like this type of music, dances, singing, rapping, and even character acting are considered the "Urban Culture" or "Hip-Hop Culture" and we love all our races they bring new flavor to it.

People say that Christian's are supposed to love everyone and tolerate everything, I can't quiet find that in the Bible.-- Posted by michaelbell on Sat, Feb 7, 2009, at 7:52 AM

Michael Bell, Love everyone "YES", tolerate everything "NO". Do you remember "Love thy neighbor as thy Self"! It is part of one of the "TWO GREAT COMMANDMENTS". "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your might. And the second commandment is like unto it; "Love thy neighbor as thy self". Read: Matthew 22: 36-40 I know everyone ain't perfect, and we all make mistakes, but you being a minister should (Definitely know this!) Perhaps you need to stay (MORE) on GODS word, than an old friend or buddy.

Here are some more refreshers:

http://www.topical-bible-studies.org/24-...

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Sat, Feb 7, 2009, at 8:52 PM

I have no issues with races of any kind, for the Bible declares tat you are either a Jew or a Gentile, man created the different ethnicities, not God.

I like music from all sorts of races!

I can love less as God dis Esau!

Pedophiles and homosexuals don't count as races either!

Yes we all do make mistakes, I know where to get forgiven though.

It is just that minorities from other countries seem to think they have every if not more right jut becaue thet are a minority.

If you are not a citizen, you don't have rights.

That is just my opinion though.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sat, Feb 7, 2009, at 9:07 PM

Momof3&3step&1gran,

I can almost perfect color blindness until you and others (Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc., etc) remind me so often of their time when there was a most definite huge distinction of color. It seems they are forever going to remind us of their huge color difference. I think we all could become color blind if they would stop reminding us that we should remember it. Can not they ever get over it and move on. We can not change yesterday but we can help shape tomorrow. If they would quit screaming "I'm black" I might just not even notice they were? I honestly believe Jesus is color blind but undoubtedly someone will complain they are being discriminated against at the white pearly gates.-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sat, Feb 7, 2009, at 9:52 AM

PB, first of all no one is telling you to be "Blind to the color of Black, Brown, Red, or Yellow". The color/race of someone is not the issue. The Discriminating "BECAUSE OF ONES COLOR, RACE, GENDER, SEXUAL PREFERENCE, RELIGION, ETC." I think you get the picture. Preventing one from because of (), or being hateful toward one because of ().

Also, neither I, nor Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc. brought up "race issue here", MICHAEL BELL did. I responded to his comment of claiming blacks would be mad if their was a white only group. And like I told him before, there are PLENTY of white only organizations, business, shows, groups etc. through out America.

He should not be "HATING" on a group of people who are trying to have a better life, people that have goals and strive for them. If you want something in life you have to go out their and get it. And alot of times it don't come easy. Their are some people that don't want to see people do better in life, or have anything. They rather criticize, talk down to them, and tell them they don't deserve better. But when people stop trying, and stop doing things for themselves, they will be the first ones to call them Lazy, Good for Nothings. They are nothing but Jealous Hypocrites

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Sat, Feb 7, 2009, at 11:08 PM

Pedophiles and homosexuals don't count as races either!-- Posted by michaelbell on Sat, Feb 7, 2009, at 9:07 PM

No Michael, they count as man, and your neighbor. I can't believe you are still willing to single people out, as to say you do not have to love them as thy self. Even the foreigners are neighbors, you think God is only talking to Americans? You do not have to live, and sin as your neighbors, but you can not judge them either for their sins, you are just as guilty in sin as they are and maybe even more so. Their sins are to be judged by God Almighty. And in keeping with the Great Commandments you are suppose to love them as thyself too.

It is just that minorities from other countries seem to think they have every if not more right jut becaue thet are a minority. If you are not a citizen, you don't have rights. That is just my opinion though.-- Posted by michaelbell on Sat, Feb 7, 2009, at 9:07 PM

Michael, all of these things and peoples are Americans: liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists, Obama supporters, et all, beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies, liberal judges and the ACLU, Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O'Donnell, NBC and Hollywood, peaceniks and war protestors, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World. Barbra Streisand,Puff Daddy,Bruce Springstein, Bill Maher,Katie Couric.

What minority from other country are you talking about? And what right?

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Sun, Feb 8, 2009, at 12:07 AM

Also, neither I, nor Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc. brought up "race issue here", MICHAEL BELL did. I responded to his comment of claiming blacks would be mad if their was a white only group. And like I told him before, there are PLENTY of white only organizations, business, shows, groups etc. through out America.

Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Sat, Feb 7, 2009, at 11:08 PM

Momof3&3step&1gran,

I think Michael brought up a good point in his blog about the racial beauty contests. I also think he is right in his opinion of the reaction that would be received if there was a racially restricted white only beauty contest.

My comments were only meant to convey the agreement I felt with his statements.

I also agree with some of your comments. It was terribly wrong to seperate the races in the manner that was allowed and carried out in an earlier time.

But why can not we learn from a terrible wrong? If you felt is was wrong to racially label beauty contests White only why do you condone the racial label of Black beauty contest.

Would not a sign above the restroom door that read "Black Only" seem wrong to you?

You made the comment...." And like I told him before, there are PLENTY of white only organizations, business, shows, groups etc. through out America".

I am not aware of these things you mention. Could you provide more information?

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sun, Feb 8, 2009, at 6:14 AM

You can love your neighbor , that is fine, I happen to have great Christian neighbors.

Let a convicted pedophile move into my neighborhood, I ain't saying I won't love him, touch my girls, and he will get some tough love.

God knew this would be one of the most Impossible things to do that was asked of us, because of human instinct.

All the minorities from any country screaming for their holidays and saying that our Christian ways offend them.

The ones the ACLU defends, the right to not pay taxes, need I go on?

You become a citizen, pay taxes, then you are my neighbor, till then you are still a stranger in my homeland.

I am not judging either just finding them guilty, the jury if you will.

In Biblical days the judge was chosen by God to deliver his people out of bondage like Gideon, Samson, Deborah Othniel

Judge-to govern,and dispense justice, judgment, and protection.

I am doing neither of these except for my family.

We as Christians are often accused of "judging" whenever we speak out against a sinful activity. However, that is not the meaning of the Scripture verses that state, "Do not judge." There is a righteous kind of judgment we are supposed to exercise--with careful discernment (John 7:24). When Jesus told us not to judge (Matthew 7:1), He was telling us not to judge hypocritically. Matthew 7:2-5 declares, "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." What Jesus was condemning here was hypocritical, self-righteous judgments of others.

In Matthew 7:2-5, Jesus warns against judging someone else for his sin when you yourself are sinning even worse. That is the kind of judging Jesus commanded us not to do. If a believer sees another believer sinning, it is his Christian duty to lovingly and respectfully confront the person with his sin (Matthew 18:15-17). This is not judging, but rather pointing out the truth in hope--and with the ultimate goal--of bringing repentance in the other person (James 5:20) and restoration to the fellowship. We are to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15). We are to proclaim what God's Word says about sin. 2 Timothy 4:2 instructs us, "Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage -- with great patience and careful instruction." We are to "judge" sin, but always with the goal of presenting the solution for sin and its consequences--the Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:6).

So you tell me, what should a Christian do when his rights and or beliefs are affected by the minorities getting their rights over ours?

And as Marvin said, you show me a "whites only contest" and I show you a lawyer ain't far behind for the ACLU!

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sun, Feb 8, 2009, at 7:41 AM

michaelbell,

Racial discrimination has been in this country every since they started slavery. It will continue in this country til Christ returns and even Prejudice against color, greed, nationality, gender or even looks will continue.

The media keeps it alive in their news reports when it is possible to use in a story.

The U.S. Government uses racial discrimination to keep the public distracted from what they are really doing or about to do.

Slavery consists of African men, women and children being kidnapped and many were sold to the slave dealers by their parents for money to help them with their financial needs. - their own families or relatives sold them to the slave dealers.

Many of these slaves went to other counties which may still have slaves today.

Our county freed the slaves, so blacks in this country should be glad they were brought to this country to be sold and not taken to other slave buying countries.

Today there are millions of children kidnapped and sold in slavery for sex. That has to be worst than just slavery of black people. These children have to grow up without any chance of becoming free. Most are murdered or OD on drugs. Very few are found and freed.

President Lincoln freed the black slaves from the white man and made them slaves of the U.S. Government.

Let me explain! Lincoln freed the slaves, so Congress had to amend the Constitution giving them their freedom. These Black Africans did have a citizenship to any country so Congress had the provide them with a citizenship to our country.

WRONG!

Congress gave them a citizenship under our Central Government. Our Central Government never had citizens under it's jurisdiction until Congress gave the blacks and the citizens of the territories a 14th amendment U.S. Citizenship.

Now the Central Government had Citizens of its own and had complete jurisdiction over them. The Central Government never had Jurisdiction over we the people who were born in this country. We are the Sovereignty in this country, not the government. The Blacks just traded their slavery to the Government.

As Government U.S. Citizens they were given "Civil Rights" but not Inalienable rights protected by the U.S. Constitution. - So we the people who are born in this country have inalienable rights protected by the constitution, but 14th amendment, U.S. Citizens only have "Civil Rights".

I prefer the "Inalienable Rights", which came from our Creator, than the "Civil Rights", which came from our Central Government.

This means that all the foreigners can only receive "Civil Rights" which are nothing compared to our "Inalienable Rights secured by the Constitution".

However, we must claim our Constitutional rights in person in a timely and specific manner, or we are considered U.S. Citizens who only have limited Civil Rights and only have equal protection of the law instead of Constitutional Rights.

Think of it this way Michael, if these 14th Amendment Citizens get a new civil right, we the people of the 50 several states already had that right and it can never be taken away from us, but it can be taken away from the other citizens because it is a "Civil Right" and was given by the Government as a benefit or privilege for being a new U.S. Citizen of our Central Government.

The ACLU can fight for all the rights they want to, because they are only Civil Rights and not superseded by Inalienable rights guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Sun, Feb 8, 2009, at 3:07 PM

So you tell me, what should a Christian do when his rights and or beliefs are affected by the minorities getting their rights over ours?-- Posted by michaelbell on Sun, Feb 8, 2009, at 7:41 AM

How is your rights and beliefs affected Michael? And "WHAT" minority are you talking about, for their are many different ones? Everyone is entitled to their OWN beliefs, and everyone needs to defend "Their Rights".

I think Michael brought up a good point in his blog about the racial beauty contests. I also think he is right in his opinion of the reaction that would be received if there was a racially restricted white only beauty contest. -- Posted by parkerbrothers on Sun, Feb 8, 2009, at 6:14 AM

People that can not be included in organizations because of race, gender, religion, sexual preferance, etc. will eventually "Form their own". And that is what has taken place over the years from the past all the way to the present. These Black pagents that Michael and you are trying to make your point about were started because of exclusion and limitation, not as a means to "Exclude others" their is a difference. They have been in business for many years back, during a time they were not able to participate in other pagents with whites. Like wise other races, genders, and religions has follow suit doing their own things as well. The white man was "NOT" the one being excluded, but the one doing the excluding. This is why all others have taken on their own. But of course you know that!

And as Marvin said, you show me a "whites only contest" and I show you a lawyer ain't far behind for the ACLU!-- Posted by michaelbell on Sun, Feb 8, 2009, at 7:41 AM

http://www.misswhitetrash.com/

And PB, trust me I ain't Hating on this contest, or angry that I can't be a part of it. : )

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/01...

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Mon, Feb 9, 2009, at 5:46 PM

Soon all will see that Christians will soon be in the minority, part of Obama's new world order will see to that.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Mon, Feb 9, 2009, at 6:17 PM

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/Default...

These are just the start of things to come, as a woman in sorrows, , but the birth will come, of the Antichrist that is.

The one and only King will return to claim his rightful throne.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Mon, Feb 9, 2009, at 6:21 PM

Momof3&3step&1gran,

The fact still stands that it should be considered wrong to have any thing that is based on race.

Your two links only further document that it is still wrong to have a "black" beauty contest or a "white" bathroom.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Mon, Feb 9, 2009, at 7:02 PM

Slavery consists of African men, women and children being kidnapped and many were sold to the slave dealers by their parents for money to help them with their financial needs. - their own families or relatives sold them to the slave dealers.-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Sun, Feb 8, 2009, at 3:07 PM

Unique Lies, quite often when you speak of things from the bible, I have noticed that your interpertations are wrong, and end up being All-OUT "LIES", as in your username "Unique Lies". And quite often I would post for people not to take what you post as "TRUTH" that they need to read the scriptures for themselves. As with your readings of the Bible, your knowlege of the history of slavery is again somewhat "TWISTED" making what you say (ALL-OUT LIES).

All African people are not Black, and all colored people are not African; just like all Americans are not white, and all fair skinned people are not caucasian, or European. Their are many different tribes in Africa, and often they are at war with each other; example the Ethiopians against the Bantu, and Sunni Somali and others that are trying to flee war torn conditions. The Arabs are the ones that done fierce raids and were capturing africans, enslaving them, and reselling them to many other countries as a means of trade for money or other supplies way before the Europeans came to Africa for the trading of slaves system. The Arabs even enslaved some Europeans way back in the past around the 8th & 9th centuries as well as other races in West Asia, North Africa, East Africa, and Europe. Race slavery was a European creation, and the Catholics had alot to do with it just like they have alot to do with all these Refugees being brought here to America, and the charities, and sending them to Tyson. Everything was a "FORCED SLAVERY" either captured by war, or depts of commited crimes that had to be paid, not a willingness of Africans selling their families for money.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_...

Study a little more on the "TRUE HISTORY OF SLAVERY" Not a bunch of "Spoon fed LIES".

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Mon, Feb 9, 2009, at 8:41 PM

Momof3&3step&1gran,

The fact still stands that it should be considered wrong to have any thing that is based on race.

Your two links only further document that it is still wrong to have a "black" beauty contest or a "white" bathroom.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Mon, Feb 9, 2009, at 7:02 PM

Parker Brothers, I will agree with you their. To me if it is hurting others, or preventing others to participate then it is wrong. Maybe they will begin to look at things like this in a different light, and decide to allow other participants of different races and perhaps give it a new and improved name. Nothing should be one sided. And these contest should not be majority one race over the others either, because obviously alot of women and men (Which I would LOVE to see more of, even though I haven't seen the first men pageants yet) of all races would like to participate in it.

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Mon, Feb 9, 2009, at 8:56 PM

I have no issues with races of any kind, for the Bible declares tat you are either a Jew or a Gentile, man created the different ethnicities, not God.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sat, Feb 7, 2009, at 9:07 PM

Could you elaborate on that, Michael? How did man create the different ethnicities? I'm sure you don't believe evolution had anything to do with it, right?

-- Posted by Richard on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 2:31 AM

Evolution No. God Yes!

Bible speaks of Jews and Gentiles, Gentiles covers us all except for the Jews.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 4:08 AM

Momof3&3step&1gran,

Thanks. The fact that nothing should be based upon race was all I was trying to convey.

I also noticed your post about slavery and wanted to say you made some very good points. Actually when I hear the word slavery I do not immediately think of the African race. I am more prone to think of early Biblical times on the issues of slavery. Just because the last issue of slavery dealt with predominately African people does not infer that they were the only or the majority race to be in a state of slavery. Actually throughout time I would think that the African race was one of the least of people to endure slavery.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 7:09 AM

Momof3&3step&1gran,

In spite of all our beliefs, true or false stories, and of course, all the twisted stories I repeat, when the False Prophet, the Anti-Christ and the Beast begin their one world order and one world religion... we (Red, yellow, white, black, brown or green civilizations) will all be slaves or imprisoned or worse. This would include the Americans, Russians, Chinese, Japanese, Africans, Israelis and all the others.

Just as God destroyed all fresh in the worldwide Flood, the Anti-Christ will torment and torture all flesh worldwide. No one will be exempt, not even God's chosen few. And without the Famous Rapture to take Christians away, they will be stuck here also.

When I post, I report a summery of what I want to say. To explain every detail would be boring and take up too much space on the blog. My post go longer than the y should but I try to make it clear because it is always different from everyone's post.

I don't print anything I haven't read or seen that is suppose to be reliable. I will put it in my own words. My own words don't mean I don't know that all Africans are not all black just as all blacks are not Africans, and neither are all Blacks, black. Dido on all the other races also.

Not all blacks were sold by the relatives, but some were. That is awful no matter what race they are.

Black history is okay as long as the rebel troops and their flag are not allowed in the history of the black people. That doesn't work. Without the rebels and the rebel flag there would be no free slaves today. Brothers fought against brother in that war. Women and girls (black and white) were raped and killed by soldiers during the civil war. We turned against our own people just like it is coming now. People are turning their family, friends and relatives into the law for anything they do. It will get even worse according to Jesus.

Like I said in my post above. Slavery is not over. Many teens (from every country) are and will be slaves forever with no one to help them.

Joseph was sold into slavery and became the Kings right hand man in Egypt and went on the save his father Jacob and his other 11 brothers and a sister from starvation.

Because some slaves were sold in America, they unknowingly brought their descendants freedom.

Even the women didn't have equal rights in this country until the 1920s and they're still fighting for more equal rights.

I'm going to tell everyone something right here and now! You can read all the history you want to, but in a couple years they manage to change the history to read something entirely different. I seen it happen several times.

Even the bible is being changed and the stories in it to make way for the Anti-Christ. If you have an old bible, KEEP IT!

I like you, Momof3&3step&1gran, I tell everyone not to believe anything I say but to read it for themselves with the Holy Spirit.

There are many preachers that are just reading the scriptures and not understanding them because the Holy Spirit is not within them. Without the Holy Spirit, you won't understand the scriptures, only what preachers tell you.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 12:58 PM

michael, you already stated that men created the different ethnicites, not God. So what did you mean by that?

What is your biblical explanation of how different races developed from one man and one woman without having roots in evolution?

Also, since slavery has been mentioned, where does the bible mention that slavery is wrong?Slavery is condoned throughout the old and new testament.

-- Posted by Richard on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 1:20 PM

michaelbell, You posted:

I have no issues with races of any kind, for the Bible declares tat you are either a Jew or a Gentile, man created the different ethnicities, not God.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sat, Feb 7, 2009, at 9:07 PM

I have to correct you on your quote. It says "neither" not either. I can not find your quote in any bible. If it exists, it would be in one of your reference books.

Galatians 3:28-29

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Also, neither circumcision nor uncircumcision:

Galatians 5:6

6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

Galations 6:15

15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is a new creation.

Also ethnicities was created by God while the people were building the tower of Babel.

Genesis 11:1-9

1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.

3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.

4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.

6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 1:27 PM

I don't print anything I haven't read or seen that is suppose to be reliable.

Posted by Unique-Lies on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 12:58 PM

Unique-Lies,

I think that is what Momof3&3step&1gran was saying.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 9:22 PM

Just because the last issue of slavery dealt with predominately African people does not infer that they were the only or the majority race to be in a state of slavery. Actually throughout time I would think that the African race was one of the least of people to endure slavery.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 7:09 AM

Parkerbrothers since the BEGINNING of Slavery, people of color, and africans of many different tribes have always been a part of slavery. Do you remember Moses delivering the Hebrew slaves (Israelites) out of Egypt. Moses had married an Ethiopian woman. Alot of the biblical characters are of color and african descent. Just because (Now days) all the pictures you see show a White Jesus, or a White Moses, and other characters as being white; it is not the Truth. These are pictures that have been revised to men of European race.

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 10:59 PM

Momof3&3step&1gran,

Yes, I agree that since the beginning of slavery all races including the Africans have been slaves. My point was that not "just" Africans were slaves. All of our races have been involved on both sides of the slavery issue.

You are also correct on the statement about the pictures of Jesus and Moses being creations of Europeans. Most of the pictures we see today were created by 14th and 15th century painters. Although they are not actually pictures of Jesus I believe they are probably close resemblances of the Jewish people of His time with the exception of the hair length.

-- Posted by parkerbrothers on Wed, Feb 11, 2009, at 7:07 AM

Momof3&3step&1gran,

When Jesus was born, he was the son of Mary who was a Jew. So Jesus no doubt looked like a Jew and not an American white man. Just as other countries paint him as a man of their ethnic background.

Remember the earlier post where God confounded the language of all the people building the towel of Babel so they would have to spread out and start their own countries? That is when all the different cultures and civilizations began.

I watched a few minutes of Pastor Perry Stone the other night and he said that Israel has 7 different lands. A land that would please everyone if they came to Israel. Interesting, so all the people who live in Israel may actually look like 7 different kinds of people! Who knows what Jesus may have looked like because He was all over Israel?

Historians are rewriting HISTORY every hundred years or so. What was said years ago may be changed in the future to read something different.

History and the Bible are two different things. The Bible is one of the oldest history books. It has been around for centuries. You could say some of it was here back in Moses's day. Look at how the Bible has been changed just from translating it.

Now, the "experts" want to rewrite History in the Bible to read differently. "The real truth about Noah and the Flood", "The real story of Jesus", "The stories about Mary Magdalene" and "her starting Christianity by herself" and now even "married to Jesus and having his child", The Da Vinci Code", (Not a truth but many swear by them). There are actually several Bible experts working on these anti-Christ stories. Sounds to me like they are not very expert on the bible at all.

When I went to high school and took History, I thought I would learn about Dinosaurs and cavemen and women. Nope! Nothing about History at all. I just read about government history and some history of the good Ol' USA. What about the Dinosaurs and cavemen. Didn't we come from them? I was so disappointed. Now they tell me after I leave school, that I was suppose to come from an Ape! Sorry, I don't buy that and actually read in the Bible where man came from and where he is going and what happens to him in between.

Many say I am anti-Christ and twist the truth around to mean what I want it to mean. If I did that I would twist it to make me feel good all the time. I know what happens and why. How many can say that?

What I know, I know that I know, that I know, that I know, that I know, that I know, that I know!

I almost FLUNKED English in high school, so my English isn't at its best.

For example:

I don't print anything I haven't read or seen that is suppose to be reliable.

I did twist this line up pretty badly. I should have said:

I only post things that I have read or seen that is suppose to be reliable from a reliable source. The internet isn't a reliable source, even if it is interesting. Even the History channel and A&E aren't a reliable source for the truth. It is only a version of a story.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Wed, Feb 11, 2009, at 11:35 AM


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