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Is There No End In Sight?
Posted Wednesday, May 13, 2009, at 4:54 AM
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First we have to deal with the concept of gay marriages being made legal from state to state, though I hope the people remember they have a say, not just the liberal judges.

Now there is the whisper of people wanting triad marriages, first off WHY?

But then again when the trend is , whatever makes you feel good, then it can't be wrong attitude.

A Christian brother brought to my attention yesterday that as long as it is between Consenting parties, what is the harm? he might want to marry his mother or sister? he was being sarcastic of course, he finds this as sick as I do!

Roy Rogers taught Trigger how to do all kind of tricks including shaking his head yes and no.

Would this mean that if he shook one for yes that is the same as I DO?

Who is to say that two minors can't get married even against their parents approval?

The judges have become way to liberal, and with the outlook that I see, it will get worse.

It seems as more evils are coming out of that fabled Pandora's Box.

On a good note Miss California gets to keep her crown, regardless of the media attacks, it seems as if the far left wants to crucify those that don't agree with the, and yes the opposite is true also.


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Just for clarification, Miss California nearly lost her crown because of naked photos of her, not because of her stance on gay marriage. Mike, it seems that you have a "chicken-little" approach to everything. The sky may be falling, but my God is still on the throne and still in control! There has to be something positive going on in your life, let's hear about that too.

-- Posted by worshiperof1 on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 7:33 AM

amen worshiperof1. he never has anything positive to say, maybe he is miserable with his life. we need to pray for this people that God will intervene in their lives.

-- Posted by adder on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 8:35 AM

Yes, it is a crazy world that we live in and it is only going to get worse. The bible states that because as Jesus's return gets closer, the enemy is trying harder than ever before to turn God's people away from Him. Remember the narrow path and the wide path? We as Christians need to help those who are lost to get back on the narrow path and follow God.

-- Posted by honda14 on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 9:39 AM

to worshiper of 1 the photos may have been questionable, but nothing was said about Miss Rhode Island! As far as the something positive goes I can remember when you were the worse sad sack I knew because of a certiain note that was written.

As far as my chicken little approach as you call it goes, I see very few churches and Pastors who are speaking out on these issues, most of them are content on being spiritual fat cats setting in their pews on Sunday, not worrying that they are being pushed down further and further.

As far as being positive goes I have a lot of good things going on which I keep to my own , for that is my business.

An old friend of mine has moved back to town, I have found a awesome church, which does not get intimidated and tells it like it is contrary to some I have been too in the last few years.

Crossroads is still a dream, but closer than before, maybe not as a church, but as an outreach.

Even though I don't agree with all that the writers of that note do or say, I did not let that effect our friendship and even defended you a lot of times, my reason for leaving that church was for my own reasons , not theirs.

I hear that some seminaries are teaching that gay marriage is fine and that there was not even a resurrection.

As far as Chicken Little goes it seems like you should rethink , I say what I say here and in the streets, not just behind the church walls.

A lot of you talk a big game, behind the walls, but you tuck your tails and run, when confronted or worse than that you change the Word of God to whatever the people want to hear!

Then again most Pastors incomes are based on the people they talk to on Sunday's, so tell them what they want to hear, maybe I should find out what was in that note.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 11:37 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,5198...

was anything said about these?, I think not.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 12:49 PM

There is a simple way of keeping people from marrying animals, their brothers or sisters or anyone under age. It all has to do with wording. Why not, "Any two adults, over the age of 18 who are not blood-related, may exchange vows to become married."

I don't see why anyone should have a problem with two consenting adults who are not related joining together to make a life together. I hear so much about the sanctity of marriage. Yeah, right. What is the divorce rate these days? How is it hurting your family? If you don't believe it's right, teach your children that.

I'm just sick of hearing Christians judge gay people. Are you without sin? I know I'm not. I know several gay people, and some of them are better people than some of these so-called Christians I've met.

-- Posted by tamb on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 12:57 PM

Sounds like i hit a nerve. That was not my intention. I am just stating that it seems like you are always negative. That was all I was stating. I have never shyed awaying from preaching anything, anywhere, anytime. That note did affect me, but I am stronger for it. I am glad you found a church and we all know why you left the church I once pastored, but I forgive you anyway.

-- Posted by worshiperof1 on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 1:17 PM

You think you know why I left, but that is old news, I still consider you a FRIEND. I forgive you for the reason I left too.

I just get tired of all this cotton candy crap that churches shovel out these days.

And I do teach my children that, but it seems to tick the gay community off when we speak our thoughts pr our opinions.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 1:30 PM

As far as my chicken little approach as you call it goes, I see very few churches and Pastors who are speaking out on these issues, most of them are content on being spiritual fat cats setting in their pews on Sunday, not worrying that they are being pushed down further and further.

Then again most Pastors incomes are based on the people they talk to on Sunday's, so tell them what they want to hear, maybe I should find out what was in that note.

- Posted by michaelbell on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 1:30 PM

Be careful here Mr. Bell, we are all on the same team. My church and my pastor preach the Bible every service. I attend all 3 services each week and I've never seen you in my church. You stick to reaching the lost and let God take care of his called men or "spiritual fat cats" as you so disrespectfully call them.

-- Posted by ontheoutside on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 3:50 PM

no disrespect intended, the fat cats I refereed to are from churches I have attended whose members read this blog.

There are several fine churches and pastors I am sure, just most don't hit the hard issues anymore.

My I ask where you attend , I may want to come and visit.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 4:22 PM

What a beautiful day!

I'm not always right, but, I am never wrong.

All of God's children have the right to express thier opinion on any and all subjects. It doesn't matter whether they have a thorough knowledge of the subject or not.

The rich serve God just as well as the poor. It doesn't matter how much you put in the plate, but, it does matter how you interpret the giver. The same goes with those trying to serve thier God, it doesn't matter much what they say, as much as the example thier lifestyle sets for the followers they are trying to lead.

People don't normally life in huts when they can afford to live in a modern home. Same again with church congregations, the bigger and more modern houses of worship shows either a large congregation or a moderate well financed congregation. Smaller congregations are not any more religious or caring about God's work than the larger ones. All in all, your all God's children and He cares regardless where you are when you worship Him.

The thing is to be honest with yourself, and go where you feel most comfortable with your style of worship. The only one who really cares where you go is "yourself". Your prayers are not better or greater than anyone else who takes the time to pray.

This world does not have any new category of sinners and there is nothing new under the sun, in the lifestyles of man. So, if God allows sin to occur at any level, then I bet He will or has already taken care of the problem, "don't you?".

Peace

-- Posted by dipperdan on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 5:42 PM

Ah... There are those who embrace diversity, and those that oppose it. Clearly, you oppose anyone or anything that does not subscribe to your philosophies :)

No, Michael.. I certainly hope there is no end in sight to progression! You know, white "Christian" men felt the same way 200 years ago when slavery was coming to an end, and men, as recently as decades ago, felt the same way as you, when women were starting to be considered equal. Soon, there will be thousands, or even millions just like you, who will still want to deny equality to gays. So remember, time has a way of erasing prejudices...

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 6:19 PM

Ah... There are those who embrace diversity, and those that oppose it. Clearly, you oppose anyone or anything that does not subscribe to your philosophies :)

They are not mine , nor do I claim them to be, They are God's!

-- Posted by michaelbell on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 7:06 PM

Divorce, not marriage is what effects families and children. Tennessee has the 8th highest divorce rate in the country.

-- Posted by Grit on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 10:32 PM

Yup. But that certainly has nothing to do with the REAL destruction of the family. LOL. Divorce? No, let's not address the REAL issue, let's focus on gays who can't even get married, much less divorced.

I also noticed you fixed the spelling of your blog title. hahaha..

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 10:56 PM

Too much pointing fingers at each other on here. We are ALL sinners and fall short. Why not be uplifting to each other and quit picking out everyones sins? Be motivational to each other. Once again like I have mentioned on here in the past OUR FIGHT IS NOT WITH FLESH AND BLOOD! Once some of you figure that out then all this bickering crap can stop. We have to stop living by our flesh and live by our spirit. Geez!

And as for the comment about some pastors.....my pastor is AWESOME and is speaking the truth. Pastor Eddie Reed at Living Stones. You want a word, come and get it here and you will never be the same.

All praise be to God!!!

-- Posted by honda14 on Thu, May 14, 2009, at 8:30 AM

I know Eddie Reed and have heard him speak, he is a awesome Man of God!

-- Posted by michaelbell on Thu, May 14, 2009, at 8:55 AM

Michael, Do you have a regular church that you attend? Which one?

-- Posted by bunchabull on Thu, May 14, 2009, at 12:50 PM

I am going to one right now on a trial basis and will continue to go there plus elsewhere before committing to a membership.

In the past I have committed to a church to early and became close friends and then discovered the church was a all talk but no walk church and had to part ways which was hard on me and my family.

If the teachings are bot biblical then I won't stay. and if they become non-biblical I will leave.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Thu, May 14, 2009, at 12:56 PM

for those interested I received this in a e- mail today.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Defaul...

-- Posted by michaelbell on Thu, May 14, 2009, at 6:18 PM

Michael,

regarding your last post.

Of course there is not a single gene that controls ANY behvior. Such things to not follow the Mendelan mode of inheritance.

Our behavior is a result of things biochemial, endocrinological, neurological, and even environmental. It is even possible that nature selected a certain amount of non-offspring producing behaviors.

The statement posted is meaningless in the overall debate.

-- Posted by gottago on Thu, May 14, 2009, at 7:55 PM

My God does not burden me with the task of judging others, that's great because it takes all the effort I have just to keep myself in check. I stumble often but he forgives me no matter what I do, so I bet he forgives others too.

-- Posted by AUfan on Thu, May 14, 2009, at 9:28 PM

that he does, but they still does not excuse from trying to keep biblical values in place.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Thu, May 14, 2009, at 10:05 PM

"If the teachings are bot biblical then I won't stay. and if they become non-biblical I will leave."

let me see if i have this straight:

as you have clearly demonstrated in previous blogs, you have little knowledge of history or science, and you have stated that you have no actual religious education. yet, for you to stay at a church (where normal people go to learn from those who have actually studied the subjects) the preacher must bend his message to your beliefs, or else it is "non-biblical."

if it isnt beneath you, re-read luke 14:11

-- Posted by lazarus on Fri, May 15, 2009, at 10:25 AM

To learn it one way and teach it another is what I am talking about.

No I don't know it all , nor will I ever, for I am not God, but for the Bible to say that homosexuality is a abomination and for churches to say different is wrong.

Most preachers will pit their own spin on the sermon, that is a fact and as long as they say"this is my opinion" then that is fine.

As long as the teachings are biblical then I am fine with any church, but some churches don't even use the bible anymore, just make a reference to it now and then like Joel Osteen

Now you give me John Haggee pr Perry Stone, or T.D.Jakes or Jack Van Impe or a Rod Parsley and I will set all day under them.

A Jewish teaching I will set under for as long as they teach it.

The ones you talk about most likely have been to denominational schools to the learn their doctrine, not the true doctrine.

Granted there are some fine teachers from seminary schools, but for the most part they teach the doctrine of their school.

The Holy Spirit is my teacher and guide.

-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, May 15, 2009, at 11:08 AM

Is that who guides you to the bottle Mr Bell?

-- Posted by Chef Boy R.D. on Fri, May 15, 2009, at 4:53 PM

No, he keeps me from it, and for your info he has kept me from it for what will be 5 years come July 4th.

Drinking[in moderation]isn't a sin anyway, I never could do it in moderation so I don't do it, any more questions?

-- Posted by michaelbell on Fri, May 15, 2009, at 6:29 PM

Michael although I don't always agree with the things you say, and have argued some points with you, I do wish the best for you, and pray that God will guide you and give you peace with your struggles and understandings. People, churches, preachers, "all that is human" do back slide. We have to pray for strength and guidance, as well as understanding. God Bless us all.

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Sun, May 17, 2009, at 1:00 PM


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