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Posted Wednesday, September 3, 2008, at 10:40 PM
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Republican consultant Mike Murphy and Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan caught speaking their minds on a live microphone following a segment on MSNBC. Hilarious!!!

Read the report:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/2008090...

Watch the tape:

Peggy Noonan in defense of her own words:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12204475...


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Haha, I love it ;)

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Wed, Sep 3, 2008, at 11:01 PM

Sorry folks, I did not find it particularly entertaining, but you would expect that from me. I also don't really see it as that damning for Governor Palin.

The press was caught off guard, they resent that and have little knowledge of the candidate so what do you say?

I am wondering how really "off mike" they thought they were. You would expect conversation about "thanks for being here", "we look forward to having you again" but instead all I could understand was critical of Republicans and Governor Palin.

Why not just say it on live TV, (except the expletives maybe)? The commentators have said much worse. Would it show their political leaning and dilute comments later or what?

After last night's "slam-dunk" by Palin, I expect to hear a lot more of this talk. It has to bother the opposite side immensely that John McCain has found such a fresh, vibrant and honest running mate. In fact, I would not be surprised to see the seething comments here as well.

-- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 10:56 AM

I would expect this from you Steve. You already admitted that you didn't even watch Obama's speech at the DNC Convention, so really your opinion is void in my mind. At least Darrick and I take the time to see both points of view, whether we know it will make a difference or not. The fact is that these people that got caught being honest when they were off the air are the same people that just minutes before claimed to support the Palin pick. While on the air they feed the American people a line of BS in support of their party, but off the air their true thoughts come out. And yes they are GOP supporters, not the non-existent elite liberal media that the Republicans love to blame for many of the problems in America.

I don't know what Sarah Palin speech you watched last night, because all I heard was more fear and blame. If you mean "slam-dunk" because of the way she continually slammed Obama and the Democrats, then I guess you could say it was a slam dunk with an assist by Guiliani. She mentioned nothing that led me to believe that the Republicans have answers to any of the problems our nation faces.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 11:35 AM

And by-the-way Steve... the point of this is not to make Sarah Palin look bad, it is to highlight spin in the media.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 12:27 PM

I actually watched both conventions and as a usual Democratic supporter, I think Palin did an amazing job of outlining the difference between their ticket and Obama's. Maybe it is the point that she pointed out Obama's failure and lack of substance and you seem to think of it as "fear and blame". The truth hurts . . . and to be honest, I found a few more answers in her speech than I did in the "I have a dream" speech from Obama. Like most Americans, I live in reality and not the fantasized world of Obama.

Oh well, I can honestly say I am not bias in this because I usually vote Democratic but this year I am not voting for either candidate but I definitely consider Palin a force to be dealt with and think she is far more genuine than Obama is.

Unfortunately so many people feel the need to be polarizing and have quit looking at the real issues or anything of substance and are just following the usual party rhetoric. What is sad though is that the Democratic Party is definitely a shell of its former self. It saddens me that the best they can come up with is Obama. People like him and Pelosi have made a mockery of the party and what it use to stand for.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 1:14 PM

Since the whole clip was not shown, it was difficult to know what the original topic was. I have seen one person introduced before as a Republican spokesperson but I do not know who the lady was speaking, not do I know whose voices we heard. It may be exactly as you hope it is, but the clip did not clarify anything for me.

I went back and listened again and still could not determine whose voices we heard. Have they come out and acknowledged their comments. That might help. Otherwise, I can't see it as clear fact.

For political spokespersons to spout the party line is no great revelation and one of the reasons I often do not listen to it. It is not unusual to either party.

I think it was a slam dunk because I think she was powerful, personable, showed no fear of where she was or who she was talking to and seemed ready to take

I never compared Mr. Obama's speech to anything, so I am pleased that you are not considering my opinion on that. I did not give it.

-- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 1:54 PM

Have they come out and acknowledged their comments.

-- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 1:54 PM

Ummm yes... in my post you will Peggy Noonan's response to what happened from the Wall Street Journal.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 2:12 PM

Has anyone read "Audacity of Hope" and "Dreams of My Father" by Mr. Obama. If so I would like to ask you a few questions in private e-mails to determine in what context certain quotes might have been said.

The one of most interest is "Audacity of Hope". But it is of such a nature that I will not post it before I know how it was said, who actually said it and try to determine what was trying to be conveyed.

Nathan, Darrick, would either of you happened to have read it? This is not a trick question. I can not research it without the book and as you might guess, I do not care to buy it.

-- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 2:33 PM

Steve

While you saw a "slam-dunk" all I saw was the same ole party bashing that got us in the position we're in now. Where was talk about the issues? Economy?

I can't wait for the debates to start up. By the time they get through digging up all the dirt on her policies as Governor the only thing being slam-dunked will be her reputation.

-- Posted by GoTitans on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 4:02 PM

she gave a typical Obama speech. pretty words that gets the party excited without a whole lot of substance. it was a good speech though.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 4:47 PM

I have voted both sides (Dem & Rep.) in my life, so I feel comfortable voicing my opinion. So far, In this campaign all I have heard is hope and change and somebody not being proud of our country and another fella finally finding himself. Also a preacher who does an admirable job of cursing.Also a news media that is preoccupied with 22 year old DUI charges and a 17 year old with troubles that deserve no place in the news. So this year, unless I hear something to change my mind tonight, the Alaska governor, more closely represents my values and I will probably vote republican. There, I have said it and I'm not ashamed.

-- Posted by cherokee2 on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 5:40 PM

and to be honest, I found a few more answers in her speech than I did in the "I have a dream" speech from Obama. Like most Americans, I live in reality and not the fantasized world of Obama.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 1:14 PM

Obama specifically laid out plans and dollar amounts in his speech, you obviously missed that... In the meantime, I saw Sarah's speech and while I give her credit for a good speech, she offered not ONE single answer about ONE single issue.

It's easy to beat up on your opponent when you have no record to run on, or no plans for the future, because you have failed in three days of the Convention to mention it once.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 6:27 PM

Nathan, Darrick, would either of you happened to have read it? This is not a trick question. I can not research it without the book and as you might guess, I do not care to buy it.

-- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 2:33 PM

I've read Audacity of Hope.. It was an ok book, and nothing really revolutionary came from it.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 6:34 PM

This is awesome! I saw neither one of the conventions and feel like I haven't missed a thing. In my opinion the conventions are nothing more than a week-long (or shorter in this case) commercial for the candidate that has already been chosen. I don't see the point in having them if they're not going to actually do anything worthwhile.

-- Posted by Thom on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 6:53 PM

Very true Thom.. I didn't care much for either convention. Honestly! Except one was focused on the future, and one is still stuck in the past. Go figure.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 6:55 PM

Well, Darrick, the majority of the left/liberal/Democrat (pick whichever label you prefer) comments on these blogs have been solely focused on the past, rather than coming up with ideas for the future. I can't say that I agree or disagree with you regarding the conventions (since I refused to watch either) but I'm just assuming from your comment that, in your opinion, the Democrats were focusing on the future and the Republicans on the past. Maybe some of the people on here should take a queue from their preferred party and focus on the future, rather than the past. Regardless of which candidate wins this election, several things are guaranteed:

1) There will be change

2) This "change" will be painful for all but the most wealthy of Americans

3) The next President will have a huge task cleaning up certain messes that this administration will pass down

-- Posted by Thom on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 7:41 PM

Yup.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 8:19 PM

Darrick the Audacity of Hope is the one that has a comment most interesting to me. I would state it here but I would rather know more about its' context or if it really exists.

Could you contact me at spm3@bellsouth.net and I will discuss it with you? Maybe not tonight, but by tomorrow?

As far as the Palin speech, I believe it was meant to do exactly what it did, fire up the convention and gives us a little but of her feisty style. I was a bit surprised when she made digging comments at Obama, but I guess she wanted to make it clear she was ready for the debates.

I agree that those will tell more. In my opinion, neither candidate has impressed me with their plans for the future, but I feel more comfortable on the Republican side. I wish we had better candidates on both sides, but we have what we have.

As you know, Palin is the bright spot for me. If not for her, I probably would not be involved in these discussions at all. I rarely do, so if I am wrong, I will quietly go back into my corner again, and cry in my beer. Well, maybe not beer any more, but...

-- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 8:44 PM

Steve,

Continue to state your opinion... I do not want you to quit voicing it. Regardless of our opinions and how much we differ on issues, the last thing we need to do is decrease dialogue.

It's actually refreshing to see you write about something you feel compassionate about, in the political world.

I will email you shortly.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 8:49 PM

Awesome propiganda tonight already. Look carefully at the beatniks everyone is chanting at. Is that what all you liberals look like?

-- Posted by memyselfi on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 9:21 PM

LOL... Hilarious!

McCain should just let Palin speak. She's much easier on the eye and can actually speak.. the lies.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 9:41 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/04/r...

There was tens of thousands of protesters AND a Ron Paul Rally just one city away, which attracted another 15,000 people... Why oh why doesn't our "liberal media" show us this on the headline news?

Oh wait, wrong part of the country.. Sorry.

-- Posted by Vindicated on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 9:51 PM

I'm glad you out that addendum about the political world Darrick. I was goin' yo get you on that.

Shucks! Anyway, you are right, I don't talk much politics and actually this is probably the most I have publicly discussed it in MANY years. Being in business and sales, I don't find the topic mixes well. Even when the subject comes up in the way that I see it, I usually just listen.

If you sent an e-mail, I did not get it as of about an hour ago. I monitor about 8 e-mails and don't have them all come in to my e-mail program because of spam. When I miss a day, it isn't fun to get back.

-- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Sep 5, 2008, at 9:26 AM


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