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Bo, I'm not sure about those ghosts....

Posted Tuesday, October 25, 2011, at 11:17 PM

Bo Melson asked in his blog if anyone believed in ghosts. I have some stories to tell, but after all these years of telling them to people I am not sure how much really happened and how much I might have imagined (just a little).

The first time I remember seeing a ghost was when I was about 6 years old. My parents and I were staying temporarily at my deceased great-grandparents house in Wartrace while our new house was being built across town.

I don't remember much about that short stay except that the Easter bunny DID find me and brought me a Weebles Wobble tree house with which I was thrilled and that at night I absolutely hated going to the bathroom. To get to the bathroom, I had to walk a long hallway which ran right alongside the staircase going to the second story of the house. I had never been up there and the door stayed shut at the top of the stairs.

When my bladder couldn't take it any longer, I would run down the hall until I could find the light to the bathroom and then take a breath. One night, I finished up and opened the bathroom door to journey back up the hall and I glanced up the stairs. I saw a lady in sheer white standing at the top as if she was descending. I could see right through her.

Let me tell you, I didn't stop to ask her who she was but I believed from that moment she was my great-grandmother. And even though that is who I thought she was -- I didn't really care to hang around. I ran so fast back up the hall that I was panting the whole time I was telling my mom and dad about it.

They didn't believe me.

That was my first sighting. I had several as a child. But, needless to say, I gave up trying to get help from my parents!

Even back then I knew if ghosts did exist, they should mainly habitat older houses. So, it really bothered me to have strange things happen to me in our new house. I finally decided we must have built on an old burial ground of some sort. Whether that is true or not, I have no idea.

My favorite color was red and my parents fixed me up. My room had red carpet and curtains and I had a white and gold canopy bed in the middle which had red, frilly bed linens. After a few weeks though, the red seemed more ominous than fun.

I woke up one night and saw a man standing at the foot of my bed with a knife. It wasn't my dad, by the way! He kind of looked like a pirate from what I remember. (Wonder if there are any pirates buried in Wartrace?) I pretended I never woke up. I kept on "sleeping" so the man would not kill me. And he didn't, thank goodness!

Another night before bedtime, I heard dogs barking up a storm outside and I looked out my window to see our three dogs in a semi-circle barking non-stop as they all stared straight up at my window. Whatever that was about, I did not like it.

When I was 11 or 12, my family and I visited my great-aunt in Illinois. She let me sleep in her room and I had a strange dream of a man in uniform. I woke up the next morning as my aunt walked into the room to retrieve something from her closet. I can't remember what conversation she was trying to carry on with me, because when she opened her closet I saw an oddly familiar uniform hanging in plain view. I found out later it was my cousin's uniform who had died in Vietnam.

Ok, so that wasn't an actual sighting, but it was weird.

I believe that if there are actual ghosts that not all of the population can see them. Most children can because their minds are open to anything. Most of these children grow up to believe that it had been their imagination the whole time and they never see a ghost again. They are closed to the possibility. Others, however, remain open minded and continue to see those spirits their entire lives.

Me? I pretend I am closed minded so that I don't see them. If I even get an inkling of a feeling that there is something strange going on, I change the station in my brain. Like the time I worked at a local hotel....very old and very scary. I cleaned a few rooms and although I never saw anything, I felt a presence with me constantly. I only worked there three days.

Now, my nine year old worries about ghosts and I just tell her, "There is no such thing as ghosts..."

Right?


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I too, have had plenty of ghostly experiences throughout my lifetime. From seeing a couple of small children walking from my bedroom door down the hallway to the kitchen and disappear just about every night in M'boro to seeing the little girl in my house now. Even with all of my experiences, they still scare me - especially when they jump out when you are not expecting it.

One experience in particular happened in our home, that we live in now. We had been living here for about a couple of months and all of my girls were in the bubble bath. Knowing that they were scared of the dark, I kept flipping the light on and off - just playing around. After hearing them scream I'd flip the light back on. After a couple of times of doing this I felt like someone was staring at me. I turned around facing my children' toy room and there was a little girl around 3-4 years of age staring at me. We had a baby gate up on the door so the kids couldn't go in there at the time, and this little girl had her arms propped up on the top of the gate. She looked very hateful at me. I noticed that half of her face was burned and part of her frilly dress that she was wearing was covered in soot. I of course freaked out and jumped into the bathroom and slammed the door. She is still around because we hear the toys playing every now and again in there when no one is in there.

As for my children, I explained to them at an early age that spirits were real. But I explain the difference that there are some that are just "recordings" and some that are "smart". They have never seen a spirit but have heard and felt the cold spots,etc. I used to tell my children that there were no such things until they saw some of the pictures and videos that I was getting and they came to an understanding that there are different planes and that sometimes our "world" and the spirit "world" interact.

-- Posted by PrpleHze on Wed, Oct 26, 2011, at 12:32 AM

Exactly ! there are no ghosts ! Satan would have you believe tho that it is aa relative or friend etc , but the Bible assures us that the dead cannot harm or help us . so it cannot be a person who has died . It can tho be a demon , impersonating a deceased person .

-- Posted by Zak on Thu, Oct 27, 2011, at 12:47 AM

Zak, there is a difference between a demonic presence and that of a person. The energy is different and the demeanor of the person is different. You can tell if it is a demonic presence or not by how the spirit interacts. If an evil force is present, they will not pretend to be nice, sweet, helpful,etc. They will be there to cause harm and chaos.

-- Posted by PrpleHze on Thu, Oct 27, 2011, at 8:27 AM

How can it be a person when the Bible says when we die we go back to the ground , we know nothing , our thoughts cease ? death is the opposite of life . It seems this is one of the areas where Satan has " blinded their eyes" that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.2 Cor 4: 4

we may know of many who tell of "hearing" or "seeing" dead loved ones. Though such apparitions at times may seem friendly, wicked spirit forces are out to deceive humans. (Ephesians 6:12) Also, think about this: Our God is a loving God who cares for us. If the dead were alive somewhere and they could come to the aid of their friends and family, would our loving Creator forbid such contact and refer to it as "detestable"? Surely not! Would not our family and friends themselves come to our aid ?? You know they would ..

-- Posted by Zak on Thu, Oct 27, 2011, at 4:29 PM

Angels took on the form of humans and eat and drank and rested from journeying according to Abraham in the book of Genesis.

Two Angels came to Sodom and Gomorrah to save Lot before God destroyed the cities.

Angels can take on human form not just look like them.

Demons as well can take on any shape they want. Satan took on the shape of a serpent when he tempted Eve in the garden. Satan can transform himself into an angel of light and it is said so can his demons. They can be seen if they want to be seen.

Satan is the god of this world and is the deceiver. What better way to deceive the people into thinking his deceit comes from God. That would make it seem to be okay to believe in visits from their departed relatives who are sleeping and know nothing and do nothing in the graves.

Preachers are to blame for some of this disbelief because they tell loved ones that the deceased have been taken by God or they have gone home to be with God.

This is contraditory to the word of God.

God doesn't take people from the this earth. Satan takes the people, but we can only ask God to intervene and not let Satan take our loved ones. Read the book of Job.

God hates mediums, fortune tellers and Psychics according to his word so I don't see departed loves one returning to speak to their family or friends.

Demons knowing a departed soul can speak of unknown things only that departed person would have known, but it is not the person itself.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Sun, Oct 30, 2011, at 9:48 PM

Jesus encountered wicked spirit creatures who recognized him and addressed him as the "Son of God." Jesus likewise knew who they were. They were not spirits of dead humans. Rather, Jesus identified them as "demons," or unclean spirits.--Matthew 8:29-31; 10:8; Mark 5:8.

The Bible speaks of spirits loyal to God and of those who have rebelled against him. The book of Genesis says that when Jehovah drove disobedient Adam and Eve out of the garden of Eden, he posted cherubs, or angels, to the east of the garden to prevent anyone from entering it. (Genesis 3:24) This was apparently the first time that spirits became visible to humans.

Some time later, a number of angels came to earth and took on human form. Jehovah had not commissioned them to carry out any assignment on earth. Instead, they "forsook their own proper dwelling place" in the spirit realm. (Jude 6) Their motives were selfish. They took wives, who gave birth to hybrid offspring called Nephilim. The Nephilim and their rebellious fathers filled the earth with violence and other great badness. (Genesis 6:1-5) Jehovah dealt with the situation by bringing the global Deluge of Noah's day. Floodwaters destroyed wicked men and women as well as the hybrids. What happened to the angels?

The Flood forced them back into the spirit realm. Jehovah, however, prevented them from resuming "their original position." (Jude 6) The Bible states: "God did not hold back from punishing the angels that sinned, but, by throwing them into Tartarus, delivered them to pits of dense darkness to be reserved for judgment."--2 Peter 2:4.

Tartarus is not a particular location; it is a prisonlike, abased condition that limits the activity of these outcasts. The demons can no longer materialize, but they still have great power and influence over minds and lives. They can possess humans and animals. (Matthew 12:43-45; Luke 8:27-33) They also deceive humans by posing as the spirits of the dead. Why? To keep people from worshipping Jehovah in a way that pleases him and to confuse them regarding the real condition of the dead.

-- Posted by Zak on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 5:24 AM

Right on Unique-Lies!

-- Posted by honda14 on Thu, Nov 3, 2011, at 12:22 PM

ZAK... the bible says Holy GHOST.. hello?? There are spirits.. read your bible.

i have seen them, and being a pastor i have seen demons. Totally differant.

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Fri, Nov 4, 2011, at 2:00 PM

I do read my Bible and I know about demons. The demons had their origin in rebellion. The first and greatest of them was the angelic creature that seduced Eve into breaking God's law back in the garden of Eden. (Genesis 3:1-6; John 8:44) Later, other spirit creatures joined him in rebellion. They too became demons, and Satan is identified as "the ruler of the demons." (Matthew 12:24, 26) In the book of Revelation, these demons are called "angels" of Satan. (Revelation 12:7) So worship of the demons is the same as worship of Satan

Now my question , Please ,may I ask, just what do you mean by "holy ghost"? and what is it's origin ?

-- Posted by Zak on Fri, Nov 4, 2011, at 6:43 PM

the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit is in the bible. spoken of a entity or part of the Godhead.

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Fri, Nov 4, 2011, at 7:39 PM

is it your understanding that the holy spirit is a person and equal to God?

-- Posted by Zak on Fri, Nov 4, 2011, at 9:11 PM

the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit is in the bible. spoken of a entity or part of the Godhead.

-- Posted by 4fabfelines on Fri, Nov 4, 2011, at 7:39 PM

where is this , Please ? what verse ?

-- Posted by Zak on Fri, Nov 11, 2011, at 6:19 PM

I've found that the teaching that the holy spirit was a person and part of the "Godhead" become official church dogma in the fourth century C.E. Before that it wasn't seen that way, Early church "fathers" did not so teach; Justin Martyr of the second century C.E. taught that the holy spirit was an 'influence or mode of operation of the Deity';

Hippolytus likewise ascribed no personality to the holy spirit. The Scriptures themselves unite to show that God's holy spirit is not a person but is God's active force by which he accomplishes his purpose and executes his will.

The idea that God came to earth and lived as the man Jesus, which is central to the doctrine of the Trinity, has been around for a long time--but it does not date back to Jesus. Rather, The Encyclopędia Britannica observes: "Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.

At Pentecost suddenly there occurred from heaven a noise just like that of a rushing stiff breeze, and it filled the whole house in which they were sitting. And tongues as if of fire became visible to them and were distributed about, and one sat upon each one of them, and they all became filled with holy spirit and started to speak with different tongues, just as the spirit was granting them to make utterance."

I'm sure you're familiar with that account.

Now I ask : can a person get filled with another person?

-- Posted by Zak on Sat, Nov 12, 2011, at 10:59 PM


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Sherri Frame, a former staff-writer for the T-G, grew up in Wartrace and now makes her home in Shelbyville with her daughter, Jordan. She graduated from Cascade High School and earned her bachelor's degree in management at Trevecca Nazarene University. Sherri is currently unemployed.
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