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No Sanitation Service? continued....

Posted Friday, February 18, 2011, at 1:17 PM

The public hearing concerning the city's sanitation service being eliminated was held last night. I was not able to attend the meeting but from the video posted on the Times-Gazette website and the story that aired on the 10:00 news, which can be seen here http://www.newschannel5.com/story/140546..., one can see the citizens of Shelbyville are not happy with this idea. After watching the videos and hearing some of the comments, there is one thing that stood out to me, which was on the video from Channel 5 news. Near the end of this video the mayor stated that "I think the people are more interested in doing a tax increase than they are anything". Really? I'm not hearing that. Yes there are a few people that have stated they would rather have a tax increase if that meant keeping the sanitation service going but I think they feel that this would be the lesser of two evils. It would kind of be like a doctor telling you that you either had to have your infected leg amputated or you will die. Of course we would choose loosing the leg but that would not be our first choice, which would be finding a cure for the infection. So yes Mr. Mayor, many citizens would rather have a tax increase instead of sanitation services eliminated but not more than anything as you stated. The citizens want a cure, which starts by cutting wasteful spending. Why does it seem that politicians on all levels seem to not be able to hear and comprehend these two words; CUT SPENDING!


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Mr. Mayor and the council members take the easy way out. It is easier to assess more and more taxes, fees, etc., than to actually look at their responsibilities in doing a competent job of spending our tax dollars wisely and cutting out wasteful spending. And then, the more dollars they get, the less likely they are to really examine the choices they implement upon US, the ones supplying their monies.

-- Posted by ILoveRoses on Fri, Feb 18, 2011, at 2:07 PM

The council meeting was another display of incompetence by the mayor and the council. A tax increase is not wanted nor warrented. Cut spending, lay people off, cut salaries. Where is it written that government workers are not immune to economic downturns like private industry is. Let employees to take a 10% pay cut or your position will be eliminated. I think most will agree to it. If not, show them the door. Then you'll have even more savings.

-- Posted by Chef Boy R.D. on Fri, Feb 18, 2011, at 4:08 PM

I know!!! Cut the Fire Dept.I may never have a fire.Besides I have insurance if I burn down.Cut public works also.I don't have to have a paved street to drive down,a clean neat city,or storm run off.Cut the Police Dept also.I have never called them for help.Close the Rec center I have never used it.Do all that but don't make me have to haul my own trash.Don't save money on something I use.

-- Posted by mytaxesaremine on Fri, Feb 18, 2011, at 5:32 PM

In a democracy a polis gets the government it votes for and thus deserves. Frequently, the time for regret is way to late to do anything but pick up the pieces, pay the piper and move on. This is about more than trash and taxes, it's about a management style that went out about the time walking horses went on pads and its deficiencies are being exposed.

-- Posted by Transplanted Yankee on Fri, Feb 18, 2011, at 6:02 PM

mytaxesaremine,

I sure hope you never need any help from any of the services you speak of in your comment.

-- Posted by PrayUntilSomethingHappens. on Fri, Feb 18, 2011, at 6:13 PM

Pray,I was getting at what do you cut to save money.Sometimes you have to give up the small things to get something greater.I would never wish any service be cut,but sometimes you have to weigh to balance.I never want to see anyone loose there job.I really think it is only a ploy to have a service contract with a private company to haul garbage.Like the cable system they would have to pay the City to be here.That way thay can have more money for more wasteful spending.

-- Posted by mytaxesaremine on Fri, Feb 18, 2011, at 6:35 PM

In the county, we have had to tote our own trash since I can remember or pay someone to take it.

-- Posted by stardust on Fri, Feb 18, 2011, at 6:55 PM

If the city does away with trash pickup, and city residents take the trash to the convenience centers, what will keep the county from turning over city schools back to the city to offset the cost?

I would imagine funding the six or seven schools inside the city limits would cost much more than hauling off trash.

There are unexplored options for saving money.

Does the city really need two fire stations? How many actual fires does the station on Hillcrest respond to?

-- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Feb 18, 2011, at 7:37 PM

The Times article said that the trash pick-up is only 7% of the overall budget. I find it hard to believe that 7% couldn't be cut from other areas of the budget to fund the garbage pick-up.

Mr. Stephenson mentioned the pensions and benefits paid to city officials that he said "will eat us alive". That sounds like a good place to start.

Here is novel idea., Disclose the entire budget with itemized expenditures and let the taxpayers select the target areas to cut. I bet the 7% needed could be quickly found and reduced from the overall budget in a matter of minutes by anyone with a little common sense and no hidden agenda. The same thing applies to the County, State, and Federal budgets.

Obama's budget includes 1.65 trillion in deficit spending which is nearly twice the revenue received. Yet he claims to be living within our means like the rest of us???? Is that how the rest of us are, spending twice what we make year after year? Does that mentality also apply to our local government? I don't think so!

I think most will agree that the government should protect our life, liberty, possesions, and pursuit of happiness, yet it has become the greatest threat instead. What is wrong with this picture?

-- Posted by Liveforlight on Fri, Feb 18, 2011, at 8:21 PM

$950,000 for trash pickup. Straight from the Treasurers mouth last night. So how does it save 500,000 dollars if we discontinue it?

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Fri, Feb 18, 2011, at 8:52 PM

All this talk about taking away trash...and absolutely no talk whatsoever about getting new business in town,creating jobs,or bringing in more tax base and revenue. It seems it would solve a lot of problems to actually be making money and running the town like a business with a profit, do we really have our focus right...we could pick up all the trash including businesses and the Horseshow to make some money...Didn't they turn that revenue down? (are you nuts to turn down money "hello in there,are you there HELLO")....Is Mr. Cunningham still on the council? He's sure acting like it "Sir in all due respect,we voted you out get the hint...you wasted more time ranting about the past then trying to solve a problem,as you always do,and none needed it and they noticed it one more time,go on vacation go fishing or something I beg you...Hey, I know go get us some businesses to add revenue..you could be our liaison(voice with action) I know you love us cause yur still here!...might as well make yourself useful!.....And Why would the council not answer questions in a public forum...that's just wrong.wasn't that the reason for having the public HEAR YOU HEARING,Public Hearing Hello'.,.We pay you to do just that ..answer questions and if it takes all night you should have..It's your job too and your getting paid to do it...I moved from this town and was gone 20yrs...It has grown zilch..we need new business and growth not the same old same ole..If I had only realized, I may have stayed away....Really for real..Who's really the brains of this operation....Gheez people wake up...do away with trash pick-up without getting someone to do it...it will start to pile in the yards soon and our lovely river and peaceful country roads...Do you really know what day and age we live in, Do you really think most people will put trash where it really needs to be on their own "Wait a sec...let me pull my kid away from his xbox long enough to just consider even taking out the trash" oh and I am to busy due to this towns economy to haul garbage on Saturday afternoon or after work OH WAIT the closest convenience center is not open then and I work then anyhow because I have to eat or shop in Murfreesboro for food (get the hint here" "Imagine That "Wanting to use a Grocery Store that carries something besides beans and cornbread fixins"..If your going to take out the garbage be smarter then the trash...or you will end up wearing it!...There was a Mayor I saw on the news the other day that took a trip to China to solicit business for his town and landed a lot of jobs for his community...hmm' now there's an idea...where is our go getter "Knee deep in garbage I presume!" and might I add its 2011 not 1970....Will we get a Longhorn Steakhouse or a P.F. Chang's soon?: I can't wait I'm about outta gas! Maybe I should get a job there..It might pay more then a foreign wage...well at least we have diversity here! We should paint some wild colors on our buildings to attract more people to pay some taxes so we can have enough money to pretty up the place!

-- Posted by chefgrape on Fri, Feb 18, 2011, at 11:33 PM

chefgrape, your point on where the garbage will end up is oh so true. We already have enough low life people that think the road sides are their personal garbage can and ash trays, there is no doubt that if they have to take their own to the dump, many will only go as far as the first back road where they will not be seen.

Sure dump the garbage pick up, the wealthy can afford to get their own private pick up so what do they care for example if the senior citizen on a set income , who can not drive lose a service?

On another note, why is it that the favorite places to "cut money" are areas where the people effected are the ones who can not afford to fight the cuts? They are happy in this country to cut schools, public services and maintenance,parks, libraries and such, the things that the average people use and depend on. But by gosh do not cut the tax breaks and extra goodies for the rich, they need that luxury a heck of a lot more than the police, teachers, or any other middle class needs the basics. The way they try to hit below the belt for impact when they could at least put a portion of the cuts at the top is beyond me.

-- Posted by wonderwhy on Sat, Feb 19, 2011, at 12:00 AM

All these opinions on here where you don't have to idenify yourself- but only 24 people with enough bells to stand up and tell the council your thoughts.

-- Posted by perkim on Sat, Feb 19, 2011, at 4:45 AM

All these opinions on here where you don't have to idenify yourself- but only 24 people with enough bells to stand up and tell the council your thoughts.

-- Posted by perkim on Sat, Feb 19, 2011, at 4:45 AM

Do you see how confusing we are to the public officials with all these comments? We want the town to grow, but don't tax us, we want jobs, but don't tax us, we want garbage, but don't tax us,industry goes to towns with money to help get them started. Who is the majority? Is it the ones willing to pay a fee? Is it the ones willing to pay a tax increase? Is it the ones wanting to stop the garbage and they have a choice what to do? Is it the ones that want everything to stay the same and never change? Think about the decisions local officials have to make with all the different opinions we have just on this one site! I think local officials really do care more than federal officials but, federal blowing of money has made us all fear all officials decisions. Just my two cents. Thanks

-- Posted by racingray on Sat, Feb 19, 2011, at 8:38 AM

Cut all salaries by 5% across the board. Yes even fire and police. No more new equipment for public works dept for 5 years. Cut hours or add user fees to the rec center. Cut public housing budget 5%. Hope we can survive till the next election for a new mayor.

-- Posted by Chef Boy R.D. on Sat, Feb 19, 2011, at 9:27 AM

Whatever happened to municipal bonds?

-- Posted by ckna910 on Sat, Feb 19, 2011, at 9:30 AM

Stardust, I have heard more than once comments about that the county has to take their own garbage off. Thats one reason people inside the city limits has to pay city AND county taxes and YOU only pay county taxes. Have you ever taken a look around at some of the trashy yards in the county because some of those people let their garbage pile up for months before they decide to take it off, burn it or worse...just let the wind blow it away.

Perkim, I dont really think anyone here is trying to hide but didnt have the nerve to stand up in front of the city council the other night. I think that many people knew that it would be a waste of time to go and speak because the city council probably agreed ahead of time to put earplugs in their ears and just sit there nodding there heads as people came up to the podium one by one to speak.

Chefgrape, This blog was meant for the subject at hand which is garbage pickup and is why nobody is talking about bringing new business to town. But I will throw in one small comment about that. I will always go shopping OUT OF TOWN because this town has nothing new to shop for. I will and HAVE BEEN spending most of my money OUT OF TOWN because this city hasnt changed much at all since the 1970's - 80's. There are several people in this town with their OWN business that dont want NEW business coming in taking money out of their pockets...THEY DONT WANT THE COMPETITION.

If the majority of the town wants to KEEP trash pickup the way it is so COUNCIL members, you need to do what the people of this town wants, not what YOU want.

By the way, I surely hope they keep picking up the garbage...it is what we pay taxes for. I know as many of you know too...there ARE other things that can be CUT that would be the lesser of the two evils.

CITY COUNCIL, Are you even listening? You can take your earplugs out now. This town wants and needs the trash picked up so you need to find other ways to fix the budget since you have slowly let it get out of hand.

-- Posted by AmericanWoman on Sat, Feb 19, 2011, at 9:36 AM

Chef Boy R.D,

I am just a bit curious. If all these salaries were cut 5%, would it be yours as well? If that happened the way you say, My family would be getting the cut. We barely survive as it is now.

Why dont we do something about all the people who live off the government who just dont want to work??? If the government would quit catering to the LAZY people, imagine how much money there would be!

Us who work our butts off, still struggle and cant get any help from anywhere... Whats wrong with that picture???

-- Posted by PrayUntilSomethingHappens. on Sat, Feb 19, 2011, at 10:06 AM

perkim, I am sure there are many, myself included, that could not get to that meeting, and maybe, just maybe, someone on the council, the mayor or the city manager, might read these comments. It's doubtful, but maybe. I agree with getting business into this town. New revenue needs to come into the town because the older people with limited income cannot keep paying for the wasteful spending that is going on. Maybe we need a younger mayor with the energy and fortitude to be actively looking for business prospects. And, maybe the city manager needs to make that his priority. Do the Long-Term council members (the ones that seem to be making this their second career) ever get out and search for new business? Taxing the middle and lower class to death is not the answer. Normal costs of living day to day is bleeding our pockets dry. Why should people that don't and can't use the rec. center continue to pay for it? Is that fair? If the city has been in such dire straits that all of a sudden there is no money - what happened? Why won't they come clean and tell us? If the city treasurer is incompetent, get rid of him. Doing away with garbage pick-up is going to create an unthinkable nightmare. Garbage left piled up will attract rodents, stray animals that will tear into it, let alone the stench. City government officials, are you willing to let our town get in this shape? Apparently so.

Here's a thought, let's leave our garbage with the council, mayor and city manager. Let THEM deal with IT!

-- Posted by ILoveRoses on Sat, Feb 19, 2011, at 10:08 AM

I wonder if the city leaders go out and buy toilet paper when they are about to run out at home. Of course they do, it is all about SANITATION, Health And WELL-BEING. It is strange but I have been thru 2 plant shut-downs and both times toilet paper and paper towels were the first thing to go. LOL Then overtime and lay-offs.

-- Posted by ckna910 on Sat, Feb 19, 2011, at 10:28 AM

I have an idea ,get rid of the city mayor, manager &council.Hire Eugene Ray to help straigten out this mess,he has more common sense than all of them put together &cares about this town & the people who live here.

-- Posted by jdem on Sat, Feb 19, 2011, at 10:30 PM

Well prayuntilsomethinghappens, that's to bad. If you don't like working for the city, get another job. No one is forcing you to stay there. In between prayers you can get do some job hunting or cut your cost of living. People who work in government are going to have to get off the we can't be cut wagon. Look at GM. How many of those are doing something else now. Quit blaming others for your lack of success in life. Get a grip and move on.

-- Posted by Chef Boy R.D. on Sat, Feb 19, 2011, at 10:49 PM

Just how many different ways to you have to say "CUT SPENDING!!!" before selectively deaf council members will hear it? Hard working, tax paying families could teach ANY of hem how to do this, as these families practice it every day. Cutting back is painful, just ask anyone wearing work clothes standing in the checkout line at the grocery store. It can be done and the tax payers of this community deserve answers, not just politically correct double-speak and the "bovine scatology" that some of our council members seem to be so good at. However, when only a handful of voters exercise their right to vote on election day, how can you expect any better? If our elected officials will not do their jobs, let them hear your voice loud and clear in the voting booth, unless of course, your favorite television show is on or you have something more important to do.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 1:32 AM

deaf you think? i just plain out dont think they care about anybody but themselves.

they dont care if you are un-employed, sick, mentally or physically handicapped, a senior citizen, or a person that cannot pay for medicine or have food... just as long as they get what THEY want.

as far as this town being run to make profit... i do believe that holds true.

anyway... i done some studying in the math of this whole ordeal myself and come to a big conclusion that i think nobody thought of.

THE CITY IS WANTING $500,000 DOLLARS!!!! FOR SOME CRAZY IDEA!!!!

heres the math, lets see what you think?

trash fee $11.00 a month, multiply by 10,000 taxpaying residents... equals $110,000 a month.

so it costs $70,000 to haul off our trash per month. $110,000 minus $70,000 equals $40,000 more a month that they are not using.

multiply $40,000 times 12 months and you get $480,00 a year that they are not using. and if they dont get the fee voted in...then they dont get the money they want.

so if they discontinue trash collection... it is saving them by thier reports... almost $500,000 a year, which is exactly what they are wanting.

they are just wanting some money and have figured on a new way to screw the citizens to get it. there are more homes than 10,000 paying city taxes, which means they will be pocketing more than you will ever know.

all of our city council are supposed to work for the citizens... not for the government, and they have turned out to be stupid, lying politicians just like the ones in washington.

nobody is getting the true story about this mess because they cook up all these ideas behind closed doors before they spring it on the public.

the only way to tell if a politician is not lying about something is when they are not talking!

vote out the ones we have? you will just get more stupid ones in there. just look at sam meeks, a good down to earth people person with good skills, and jamie williams... all he talked about during his campaign was getting us some jobs in here.... and what did they do in thier 1st month in office... they started shaking the money tree for themselves and not coming thru for nobody.

this little meeting we just had at the city hall, and all the comments in the paper and the blog here was un-heard... even getting this put on the t.v. news has not changed thier views.

say good bye to your money or your trash service... because the city government here is not burger king... you get it thier way or the highway ...always!!!

-- Posted by kyhhfan1 on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 2:15 AM

What came first problem with budget or private company approached city leader? I think that someone has been promised some kickback money from a private collection company. Why else would they be so muleheaded about something that is in violation of the Charter.

Where are the Horse show people on this issue? You had better believe that other cities that want the Horse Show are watching this Fiasco and will use it to their advantage. The good jobs are GONE and they aren't coming back. What happens when tourism leaves? Taxes will have to be increased and you can forget about selling your property.

-- Posted by perkim on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 5:56 AM

Wife to Husband "Honey, we are out of toilet paper.'

Husband " Sorry, but I took that out of budget. Do you like my new golf clubs?"

Wife " But what about the children?"

H

usband " baby, they will figure it out."

Sound fimilar??

-- Posted by ckna910 on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 6:24 AM

Other than slight increases due to increased appraisal values, have any of you seen an increase in your property taxes since, oh, about 1996?

I know that the property taxes didn't increase for the 7 years that I owned a home there, and, from what I hear, they haven't increased since that time. Sorry, guys, but expenses increase year after year just as a fact of live. Most people are happy to pay for things that improve the quality of life in a city - greenways, tax collection, street improvements.

Your city taxes are NOTHING. Ask anyone in your neighboring cities.

-- Posted by gottago on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 9:22 AM

Taxes may be NOTHING in your book, but to those of us on a limited income cannot keep dishing out money that is apparently being wasted in ways we probably will never know about. Also, more jobs are leaving this area. Just ask the people at Josten's that were recently told their jobs were ending this year. Look at the full scope of it all. If those people leave town, that is more tax dollars leaving which mean the rest of us have to take up the slack. We just can't do it. And why would they want to stay. There is little left here as far as the job situation goes. Where does the merry-go-round stop? The city officials are robbing Peter (us) to pay Paul (their wasteful spending and refusal to cut out their wastefulness).

-- Posted by ILoveRoses on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 9:53 AM

ILoveRoses your right i live on a fixed income.

I wanted the so called meeting to be held at a school but no way was that going to happen. they did not like what they heard nor do they care.

And what abought the Mayor treating an elderly lady the way he did telling her she didn't know what she was talking abought then hanging up on her,and the city council members she talked to all she got was excuses.

As i have said the Mayor has (LIED) to me in my face Mr. Dill (LIED) to me i called the state and asked and they said no way.

There were to mini there to get in that little room at the police station, the hall was filled and people on the outside that wanted to say something but could not

We need to force another meeting with city council at a school with a gem so they can relly get there ears full of what the people thank.

-- Posted by airforce one on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 10:50 AM

We need here in Shelbyville are people who know what they are doing when it comes to running the goverment.

Its plane to see these people dont. I dont like how they know more then we.

And why are they the only one's setting on the boards or most of them are, parks, county's board's city council set on all the board's or there husband's do right Kay Rose?.

And why do they lie abought what they make they all say they are not payed enought.

-- Posted by airforce one on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 11:03 AM

I amm going to check in to some things and well get back to you all in two days.

Have a good day Shelbyville.

-- Posted by airforce one on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 11:05 AM

Just charge the $11 per month fee and get on with it~!! It is the most fair. If you live in a house you have electricity and you have garbage, so just connect the two like other towns have successfully done for decades. Another point is that the $11 fee is the same for everyone, whether they live in a $10,000 trailer or a $100,000 house. Why should it be put on property taxes making the person who has the more excpensive property pay a larger increase and thus a higher percentage of the garbage fee. We ALL pay the same rates for electric, water, sewer and gas, why should garbage be any different?? Everyone's garbage is just that--garbage, and has no value. Therefore don't tie the garbage fee to a property tax increase that would be disportionate.

-- Posted by justwanaknow on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 12:04 PM

to justwanaknow Electric,sewer,water and gas is charge by usage not flat rate. Compare a person that has 1 32 gal trash can per week= 1664 gals per year to someone with 4 32 gal. cans per wk = 6656 gals per year. Each pays 572.00 a year. Which is now 18.00 not 11.00 since this thing has stalled. With tax increase you can at least file that on your income taxes

-- Posted by perkim on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 12:26 PM

End the trash pickup? Shelbyville certainly won't smell any worse than it does when the sewer plant starts acting up. lol

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 12:36 PM

Chef Boy R.D.

First of all i dont work for the city. My husband does. Its really a shame that his "dream job" Is to protect jerks like you. I promise you he doesnt get paid enough for putting his life on the line EVERY SINGLE DAY for people to whine and complain about our fire, police, and ems.

And Lack of success because he works for the city? Really? Are you an idiot? I wasnt blaming anyone at all! I just think people (like you) are quick to say CUT Salaries, but im almost positive that your salary would not be affected!

As for the trash, i dont really care either way. We can take our own dang trash or pay the $11 a month. Shelbyville people REALLY need to GROW UP and think of others.

-- Posted by PrayUntilSomethingHappens. on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 1:00 PM

There is a solution out there; all of the options the "leaders" are putting out there aren't viable for any of the citizens of Shelbyville. Actually, they are leaving out several options that would reduce taxes and streamline decision making. Hopefully the support of the citizens will not waver and want that kind of positive change.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 2:34 PM

Does anyone knoe how to go about getting a copy of the budget from the city, county, state, or federal governments?

I would like to take a look and see where my tax dollars are being spent. I don't think I could suggest, or talk intelligently about, any cuts without the pertinent information in hand.

-- Posted by Liveforlight on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 5:47 PM

I typed in Shelbyville Tn City Budget- lots of interesting stuff on there. Budget for 2006 near the bottom. Budget in 2006 for solid waste was 651,000.

-- Posted by perkim on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 6:12 PM

for 2010 it was 950,000.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 6:16 PM

You should be able to get one from the city clerk, but you will have to pay for a copy.

-- Posted by ckna910 on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 6:48 PM

No tax increase for 15 years yet a budget was prosed and approved for each one of those years. Did you not see a need to increase tax or were you afraid that voters would resist?

All this Indecision about fee/tax/ cut off services and DISRESPECT for voters and each other. Would you run a business like this? You would last long if you tried!

Ex-coucilman admits to VIOLATION of Sunshine Law in front of public meeting. Who else was there?

President Obama took his "Chafing" in Nov. Are you ready to resign now or will you embarass yourself at the polls next election?

I support move toward Metro.

-- Posted by chas29 on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 6:32 AM

Check it out;

City pensions across the country have felled or gone bankrupt.

Large and small municipalites to large city's,and states have found there unsostainable so how is the city thank there are going to keep there's buy taxing the people more and more on top of more tax's they thank they got the green lite for

at the last meeting for trash.

wake up every one this council will rob your pockett.

-- Posted by airforce one on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 7:12 AM

I support a move to metro goverment.

-- Posted by airforce one on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 7:16 AM

i support move to Metro!

-- Posted by perkim on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 8:24 AM

People it is time to wake up it is not about the trash pickup, it is about cutting a service that tax money is suppose to be going towards. It all falls back to poor management, throwing more money in for them to mismanage will not fix the problem at hand.

I support a move to Metro Government.

Have a petition drown up if anyone wants to carry it around the county.

-- Posted by johnnyreb on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 9:32 AM

johnnyreb contactme chasdudley29@yahoo

-- Posted by chas29 on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 10:17 AM

Found a summary of the County Budget online, but have yet to found the City. This summary is only a starting point. Notice the "Service on the Debt" expenses at the bottom!!

http://www.bedfordcountytn.org/pdf/Props...

This is what we all need to be looking at. No one seems to like the way things are going nowadays and everyone always says "what can I do about it?"

1.)Go to your elected officials and request an itemized copy of their budget. It is your money, you have right to see how it is being spent.

2.) Review the budget, ask questions, demand answers, let our public servants know we are watching how they handle the funds we have entrusted them with.

3.) Educate yourself to areas of waste and fraud and present ideas to the councils/committees/press and community on how to correct the issues.

4.)Encourage everyone you know to do the same.

Why does the government continue to spend more than they take in? Why do they constantly want to increase taxes to pay for their wastefulness and corruption? BECAUSE THEY CAN!!!

If we want it to stop, then we are going to have to do more than just vote and talk about it.

-- Posted by Liveforlight on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 2:18 PM

Just thanking out loud maybe the city has used some of the pension fund.

That is only thing i can thank of but i tryed to find it and its not there to find like a lot of thing's arent there.

-- Posted by airforce one on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 6:18 PM

Maybe padding their pensions.

-- Posted by ckna910 on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 7:56 PM

Instead of raising property taxes, how about a wheel tax?? It looks like the money is going to come from some tax and lots of people in Shelbyville own car(s) but no property....Is that possible?? I left Shelbyville in 1969 but try to keep up with what is going on by electonic means.....It really hurts to see all these arguements and finger pointing that is going on...

-- Posted by RoyClass'69 on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 12:11 PM

Wheel tax would have to be county wide and that tax goes to street maintainence usually.

-- Posted by ckna910 on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 12:21 PM

Understand ckna910....Maybe the law could be changed to allow usage of this wheel tax money for other means........Laws are changed/modified all the time...I always remember a couple of sayings my Dad always had; "You must not live beyond your means" and "In God we trust, all others will be checked." It seems things have not changed much since '69......

-- Posted by RoyClass'69 on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 1:04 PM

Record level of county's dying in the U.S. why the economy they did not cut back nor there town's

the people are older and just dont have the money

the younger people are leveing why no work.

Sound's like Shelbyville right now.

this is for the city council when your out of money your out so look real deep or your in trouble.

-- Posted by airforce one on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 4:34 PM

In searching through TG, I find that on 5/2/2010 "City Budget Problems Unlikely" according to city treasurer budget is okay. Yet on 6/30/2010 "State Mandated Fees Passed by Council" That is just 58 days after budget is "OK" and it takes 3 reading for coucil to pass something. Am I the only one that sees a problem with this?

I encourage everyone to read yesterday's article about Jim Tracy concerning bills coming before the State.

-- Posted by chas29 on Wed, Feb 23, 2011, at 6:14 AM

I have a copy of city budget.

-- Posted by chas29 on Wed, Feb 23, 2011, at 1:39 PM

How did you get it? Is it more than a one sheet summary? Can you post it online?

-- Posted by Liveforlight on Wed, Feb 23, 2011, at 2:03 PM

It is about 60 pages. chasdudley29@yahoo.com for more info

-- Posted by chas29 on Wed, Feb 23, 2011, at 2:14 PM

Why has the council dragged their feet so long? The study session with vendors should have happened last summer in my opinion.POOR LEADERSHIP

-- Posted by perkim on Fri, Feb 25, 2011, at 7:00 AM

why discuss it with vedors... we already are paying... do you still want to pay for something twice? still going to cost us 7 buck a month when we pay for it thru taxes.

-- Posted by kyhhfan1 on Fri, Feb 25, 2011, at 3:00 PM

I agree with you, Rodney! Cut spending!

Yes, it's hard. Yes, nobody likes it. Yes people will be impacted.

City Administrators - do it! County commissioners and officials - do it. State leaders and those over the budgets - do it. Federal House and Senate leaders - cut it out! You may not be popular, but we can't go on like this!

Sometimes we must suffer for the greater good.

In late 2008 the company I work for was purchased by a larger company - we were 140,000 employees and it seems they were close to 300,000.

As soon as this bigger fish swallowed us, they spit out 24,000 of our ranks via a layoff. Painful.

Then in February 2009 they gave everybody in the company a payroll reduction - from the CEO all the way down to the troops like me. Nobody liked it!

Then, in May of '09 this new company decided to give everybody in the "aquired" company another reduction - I felt this was abusive. Yes I didn't like it!

Well then, guess what, later that year, they gave further reductions to some pay grades which they thought were "making more than market" wages.

This third cut was anywhere from 3% up to 23% or more (a friend of mine and co-worker received 23% - she lives in the Detroit area, so this was especially abusive for her and her family at that particular time.) Yes I was impacted!

But, we adjusted. My family adjusted. We cut our spending! It has been and continues to be painful. But we're surviving.

If our family had not cut our spending, we might not survive. This is true of our company too. Especially in the long term. Like you said, better to lose a leg than your life.

So, I repeat: I agree with you, Rodney!

Cut spending!

Yes, it's hard!

Yes, nobody likes it!

Yes people will be impacted!

But we can't go on like this! We may not survive!

-- Posted by realsimple2000 on Fri, Feb 25, 2011, at 6:34 PM

Here we go city trash.

who is runing the city Cartwright?

What is Dill payed for?,He the city Manager so why is the Mayor talking and if there out of money How can they bid on a colltion service?

-- Posted by airforce one on Fri, Feb 25, 2011, at 9:41 PM

Here is an idea- citizens could stop spending in Shelbyville COMPLETELY until we get a city council,mayor, treasurer,city mananger that will do us right. only short distance to Tullahoma and most of us working folks work out of town anyway. Put the HURTS on THEM like they are HURTING US!

-- Posted by chas29 on Sat, Feb 26, 2011, at 10:37 AM

Think sales tax revenues aren't important to them - go back and read "Falling Tax Revenues Impact Shelbyville " 1/21/2010

Treasurer begging people to spend here. I can Spend my money elsewhere!

-- Posted by chas29 on Sat, Feb 26, 2011, at 11:07 AM

BUDGET CUTS

STOP WASTING OUR TAX MONEY

HIRING FREEZE

THE GOOD JOBS ARE GONE- PEOPLE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF GOVERNMENT WASTE

-- Posted by ckna910 on Sat, Feb 26, 2011, at 4:30 PM

BUDGET CUTS

STOP WASTING OUR TAX MONEY

HIRING FREEZE

THE GOOD JOBS ARE GONE- PEOPLE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF GOVERNMENT WASTE

-- Posted by ckna910 on Sat, Feb 26, 2011, at 4:30 PM

Mr. Cantrell!

Would you tell how much money the city has borrowed and where or from who?

All i know is someone not telling the truth as to were the money has gone they spend so much on things they dont need it's a shame.

-- Posted by airforce one on Sun, Feb 27, 2011, at 5:25 AM

Mark Clanton said it would take $100,000.00 for Stormwater And meet state Minimum Requirments. We have flooding issues on our street because of storm drains on streets above us and behind us. We have been trying for several years to get this problem fixed, butted heads with Mr. Clanton numerous times. Meanwhile, everytime it rains one and half or two inches, our backyards and our street gets flooded. Water going under our houses, causing damages. Nice to know state standards not met. Glad I saved the pictures!

-- Posted by ckna910 on Sun, Feb 27, 2011, at 5:57 AM

Surely all the people that work for the taxpayers don"t think they are immune to wage reduction and might get laided off.

-- Posted by RD33 on Sun, Feb 27, 2011, at 8:48 AM

Need 100K for Stormwater another 100K for Industrial Park or JOBS but Parks get new frontend loader when they could have used the one that Public Works has. Something wrong with this picture.

-- Posted by chas29 on Sun, Feb 27, 2011, at 8:52 AM

Need 100K for Stormwater another 100K for Industrial Park or JOBS but Parks get new frontend loader when they could have used the one that Public Works has. Something wrong with this picture.

-- Posted by chas29 on Sun, Feb 27, 2011, at 8:52 AM

I think its just a slap in the face of taxpayers taking away trash pickup when I know they could find 7% in all the dept heads and employees.

-- Posted by RD33 on Sun, Feb 27, 2011, at 9:25 AM

If the people refuse to pay, the government won't have the money to run itself.

That is no longer just a trash pickup problem.

It also means Government employees won't get any paycheck at all.

I think the government needs to cut the wages of high paying employees and officials and officers, instead of not getting paid at all!

How hard is it to see you have to cut your pay or do without a paycheck because the gov. is broke?

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Sun, Feb 27, 2011, at 11:25 AM

In TG article dated 11/10/08 "Shelbyville City Spending May Be Deferred"----Ed Craig is quoted "City ahead of Budget $89,298.00 with cash balance of $3,489,298.00" also "Deferring stormwater project woud save money"

Like Berney Mac used to say "Bulls***"

-- Posted by ckna910 on Sun, Feb 27, 2011, at 11:39 AM

How hard is it to see you have to cut your pay or do without a paycheck because the gov. is broke?

Roll Off Dumpsters

-- Posted by Danial123 on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 1:33 AM

The city need's to cut all pay to them selves all uper staff to.

-- Posted by airforce one on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 5:51 AM

Mark clanton needs to go to he will not help you at all ask people here that talked to him and your council member will not eather.

Mark cut trash to four days a week saying were saveing money by not runing the trucks five days a week well there not they use the same amount every eight houre's.

who he trying to kid.

-- Posted by airforce one on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 6:02 AM

METRO METRO METRO

-- Posted by airforce one on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 6:03 AM

Boehner says "US Broke"

Haslam Says "TN Broke"

Cantrell says "Smellyville Broke"

WHEN WILL THEY REALIZE THAT BUDGETS NEEDS CUTTING!

-- Posted by perkim on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 9:08 AM

perkim, you are so right. With the economic down-turn, we have had to cut out things that to some, would have been a necessity. With the cost of day-to-day living, we have practically become vegetarians. Since we, all of us citizens of Shelbyville (and I like your word, "Smellyville" --ha ha) recognize that we have to change our ways of spending -- money that we don't have -- why would our local governmental officials consider themselves any different, since they are using the dollars we are giving them? I have a question, why do taxpayers have to furnish council members and mayor with insurance?? Are they putting their lives on the line for their 'services'? Is being on the council or being mayor, a job to them or a service to their community? I was always led to believe that these politicians were 'serving' their community for the good of the community - not to line their pockets and enjoy perks at taxpayers expense. A few of them are already drawing S.S. Being on the council seems to make them think they are entitled to make life easier for themselves on our tax dollars. Like I said before, wonder what they will do with their trash when push comes to shove.

-- Posted by ILoveRoses on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 10:23 AM

To: I LoveRoses--It is sad when people without jobs and insurance have to pay for them to keep insurance. Being without ins, some have to turn to State Health Dept just for the basics and now some Senators/congressenn want to cut WIC and Women's Health. As to where they will put their trash-I have a good suggestion but can't print it here.LOL

-- Posted by perkim on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 11:12 AM

To: I LoveRoses--It is sad when people without jobs and insurance have to pay for them to keep insurance. Being without ins, some have to turn to State Health Dept just for the basics and now some Senators/congressenn want to cut WIC and Women's Health. As to where they will put their trash-I have a good suggestion but can't print it here.LOL

-- Posted by perkim on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 11:12 AM

Politics are nothing but "dirty" and nasty. Someone that you think is a good person, and gets into politics, ends up changing almost overnight. They start back-paddling and become dishonest. Why a good human being would ever want to get into politics is beyond me. And it starts at the local level and goes all the way to D.C. Things that you and I have to pay for from one day to the next just to live, are being abused by politicians and paid for by us. If they can afford insurance, automobile fuel, etc., they should refuse the perks of their position if it is keeping someone else from getting it that needs it. (Can you imagine how many meals our taxes have paid for that wasn't necessary?) And another word to describe them taking all the perks is Greed.

perkim, they had rather make us suffer rather than give up their perks. They are enjoying life and not giving up much, if anything at all.

-- Posted by ILoveRoses on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 11:45 AM

Any old-timers on here know when city engineer was hired?

-- Posted by chas29 on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 2:02 PM

why keep ranting about this trash debacle?

they are either going to cut the service or make you pay for it one way or the other. its going to be thier call, not the citizens. in the end everyone will lose somehow. they just dont care about nobody... and that includes themselves. i cant wait until they have no job, and cant afford to live on social security or a fixed income. then maybe they will look back and see the mistakes they made and the bull they put us thru.

-- Posted by kyhhfan1 on Tue, Mar 1, 2011, at 1:27 AM

Perkim:

Just to clarify things the Mayor nor the City Council is furnished health insurance.

-- Posted by cordell on Tue, Mar 1, 2011, at 3:14 PM

perkim: looks like you hit a nerve, lets us know they are reading these rants.

-- Posted by chas29 on Tue, Mar 1, 2011, at 5:25 PM

Here we go sound's like Jean Pruitt has hand picked our next city Manager one her and rose would like. I thank Mr. Dill is doing the right

he need's to go.

Now there going to see just how far they can push the tax thang on Shelbyville home owner's like i said they got the green lite this is all they studied you can bet on that and nothing else they still wont cut thang's we need to replace all of them they been there to long.

-- Posted by airforce one on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 4:58 PM

Make a bet Rose & pruitt try to make Betty Lamp our next City Manager and that what she waiting for.

We still need to go Metro and do away with them all.

-- Posted by airforce one on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 5:03 PM

AMEN and AMEN and AMEN !!!!!!

-- Posted by ILoveRoses on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 5:09 PM

Mr. Meeks apology he's not the one that need's to it's Rose,Pruitt,Landers,Halland and the Mayor

these people thank they are right all the time:

There confused by what the people want there problem is they hear what they want to hear and not what is said.

The people said make cuts i see no cut's they have made nor are they going to but they heard raise tax's.

But that's not what was said raise tax's ( IF ) you have to is what was said

The Green lite for this was at the last peoples meeting,

-- Posted by airforce one on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 5:32 PM

I thank Mr. Dill was gone last week and got him self a new job then comes back home to resigne his old job thank GOD.

-- Posted by airforce one on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 5:45 PM

In the very last paragraph of TG article

"Cartwright also said other things have happened since that time, and it has probably cost us over one million dollars and if we had that million in our budget, we wouln't be in the shape we're in now"

Mayor please expound on that to us the taxcpayers since it is our money that we entrusted to City.

-- Posted by perkim on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 6:14 PM

In the very last paragraph of TG article

"Cartwright also said other things have happened since that time, and it has probably cost us over one million dollars and if we had that million in our budget, we wouln't be in the shape we're in now"

Mayor please expound on that to us the taxcpayers since it is our money that we entrusted to City.

-- Posted by perkim on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 6:14 PM

What the city does today will be the day after and not years befor if this council had a drop of brain's they be Dangerous no wonder Shelbyville is in a MESS.

-- Posted by airforce one on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 6:16 PM

It is so much easier for them to sit down and just pass all these costs on to the taxpayers without ever doing any study, without trying to cut out their wastefulness, without looking for ways to get new business into this town (which means new tax dollars). We are being consumed by foreigners which send the major part of their earnings back to their home lands. Have they ever considered taxing the people that house more than one family in a single family dwelling? There is a double-wide not far from my house that has no less than 8 cars on some days. And if there is always a party there to explain the number of cars, that should be looked into.

It just seems that it is easier for the council and mayor to pass fees and taxes by using a few ink pens instead of really - r-e-a-l-l-y - looking into what they are doing to us. WE ARE STRAPPED FOR MONEY, TOO! Where do they expect us to get the extra money they are going to impose on us ????????????

-- Posted by ILoveRoses on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 6:27 PM

The city council still dont get it as the country in almost every state teacher's, police, and state worker's get the axe.

ILoveRoses you are right they have not really looked at any thing nor studied any thing as you say it's easyer to pass a tax.

With the cost of fuel going up and other things

there only looking at right now and by the time they do it will be to late and more tax's will be added.

big pay cuts to all city offices,city council.% pay cuts to police,fire,EMS like the states are doing.

I bet they dont know what going on in this country nor care we need a Metro Goverment now.

-- Posted by airforce one on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 6:59 PM

if they would cut thier salary from 65,000 to minimum wage, which is what almost everyone at any job in shelbyville makes, they would have some money for what the citizens need.

-- Posted by kyhhfan1 on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 9:51 PM

Leadership??

Copied from TG article;

Referring to the Feb. 17 public hearing on the trash issue, councilman Thomas Landers said that the public says that the council doesn't listen to their opinions.

"But those of you at the meeting can kind of get our confusion on the public input," Landers said. "You have one person saying do a fee, no, don't do a fee, Taxes? No, don't do taxes. Rec center, no rec center. That's the kind of input we get."

NOW, which direction do you want to be lead in?? The issue is not listening. The one thing that has been said repeatedly is "CUT THE SPENDING". Find the 7% needed for trash pick-up by cuts in the other 93%. Is that not clear enough??

Another from the TG;

"Cartwright also noted that when the property tax dropped in 2007 from $1.47 to $1.41, "nobody ever recognized that that took place."

This is because when the rate was cut the taxes paid by the taxpayers was up because of the increase in property value by re-appraisal.

These rates are based on property values which have increased dramatically in the last 15 yrs. Mr. Cartwright wants to lead us to believe that taxes have gone down when in fact the amount of money paid has gone up. No wonder no one recognized the rate drop.

We see these same problems being manifested at all levels of government and it all stems from the same issues, Lack of leadership and discipline.

-- Posted by Liveforlight on Thu, Mar 3, 2011, at 8:02 AM

City council and the city mayor say they think people want a tax increase?

I think maybe they should get hearing aids because what I hear is the people want them to make cuts... and operate more efficient. People say a tax increase would be the lesser of the two evils but a tax increase will not fix the problem it would only be a short time bandaide. Stop the waste not increase taxes because you over spend.

Times are hard and with the gas prices rising again things will not get better they will only get worse. Most people have had to make cuts to manage their own personal budget and it is time the city makes those cuts.

If you want more money then figure out how to bring people to Shelbyville for jobs, activities,event,etc.

This town has relied way to long on The Walking Horse Show we have alot of smart people in this town that can bring revenue to this town if it would be more receptive.See More

-- Posted by johnnyreb on Thu, Mar 3, 2011, at 10:27 AM

For my part, the council and mayor couldn't be more wrong ! This citizen can't take much more of them wanting my money to take care or their ignorance and carelessness.

-- Posted by ILoveRoses on Thu, Mar 3, 2011, at 11:17 AM

I thank it's funny now they got money for the trash first we'll be out of money in December thhen it's May or June now they got the money witch they have had all the time.

but they could not what for the property tax assement but now they can.

Is anyone tired of them lieing?

Please good people thank hard on Voteing a Metro Goverment in The tax's would be less and these

people would have to find new job's at best they could work for $5.50 an hour like the rest of you

and work 2 or 3 job's like a lot are.

-- Posted by airforce one on Fri, Mar 4, 2011, at 2:14 AM

I thank it's funny now they got money for the trash first we'll be out of money in December then it's May or June now they got the money witch they have had all the time.

but they could not what for the property tax assement but now they can.

Is anyone tired of them lieing?

Please good people thank hard on Voteing a Metro Goverment in The tax's would be less and these

people would have to find new job's at best they could work for $5.50 an hour like the rest of you

and work 2 or 3 job's like a lot are.

-- Posted by airforce one on Fri, Mar 4, 2011, at 2:17 AM

There are a few things I find interesting/questioable A few weeks before Mr. Dill announced his resignation- Betty Lamb's job was post in TG under Jobs. Alse her name came up immediately after Mr. Dill's announcement.

At the public meeting, Mr. Cartwright was told several times by Ginger Shofner to "get Control of Hearing" Who is reall running this City??

I predict that in the future- votes will still remain 4 to 2 on almost everything, with the 2 new councilmen being voted against. The more things change- the more things stay the same

"Laws are like cobwebs, which may catch small flies, but let wasps and hornets break through." -Johnathan Swift

-- Posted by chas29 on Sat, Mar 5, 2011, at 6:40 AM

There are a few things I find interesting/questioable A few weeks before Mr. Dill announced his resignation- Betty Lamb's job was post in TG under Jobs. Alse her name came up immediately after Mr. Dill's announcement.

At the public meeting, Mr. Cartwright was told several times by Ginger Shofner to "get Control of Hearing" Who is reall running this City??

I predict that in the future- votes will still remain 4 to 2 on almost everything, with the 2 new councilmen being voted against. The more things change- the more things stay the same

"Laws are like cobwebs, which may catch small flies, but let wasps and hornets break through." -Johnathan Swift

-- Posted by chas29 on Sat, Mar 5, 2011, at 6:40 AM

There are a few things I find interesting/questioable A few weeks before Mr. Dill announced his resignation- Betty Lamb's job was post in TG under Jobs. Alse her name came up immediately after Mr. Dill's announcement.

At the public meeting, Mr. Cartwright was told several times by Ginger Shofner to "get Control of Hearing" Who is reall running this City??

I predict that in the future- votes will still remain 4 to 2 on almost everything, with the 2 new councilmen being voted against. The more things change- the more things stay the same

"Laws are like cobwebs, which may catch small flies, but let wasps and hornets break through." -Johnathan Swift

-- Posted by chas29 on Sat, Mar 5, 2011, at 6:40 AM

First of all we dont need Betty Lamp as owr city manager.

Secound of all we schould not run a man out of business if Mr.Doller is making a liveing at recycling let him put up recycling sites and not the city it will cost money to do so.

We need a watch dog over city council so we can see how there spending our tax dollars.

Remove the city's department heads from the finance committee and install people that know's

and under stands budget's then the charter will not have to be changed.

We have a problem in city council and that is Kay Rose,Landers,Pruitt.

And not say Betty Lamb alway's voiceing her openion witch she is not to do.

The Mayor does not know any thing; is all way's jump in with an off the wall remark over any thing

just to get a word in.

In stead of thanking in pennies they need to thank in dollar's by passing new law's to make money but they dont know how shame i do but rhey will not listen.

-- Posted by airforce one on Sun, Mar 6, 2011, at 10:35 AM

If betty Lamp got her job in the paper it must be cut and dry for her new job as City Manager right

she has not got the education to be city manager

first place and Pruitt and Rose is wrong to even thank she can do the job they cant do there jobs right.

Just more profe we need a big change in Shelbyville i am tired of the same old people here running thangs that dont know how.

We need a METRO GOVERMENT in bedford county.

-- Posted by airforce one on Sun, Mar 6, 2011, at 10:44 AM

The same old cliques still stick together on the council no matter what. And don't forget Holland in that clique, also. They are making a career out of being on the council, but still don't grasp what the people of this town really need. And that is more jobs. They just raise taxes and fees and don't really care whether there is any new industry coming to this town. Apparently they have blinders on and cannot see that this town is dying. Tyson keeps bring in foreigners to work there and could care less about the citizens here. I wonder how many tax breaks they get for being here!

-- Posted by ILoveRoses on Sun, Mar 6, 2011, at 12:54 PM

Ifi were the city council i would look at changeing the city ordinance so they could fine property owner's of some dumps that they rent

By make fix them up or get fined.

Give them 30 days to do so if ther not fixed then fine them. some need side walks repaired,gutter work,paint,old septike tanks filled in and fence repaired.

they would make money two way's 1 would be a bilders permint and the small company's in town could make more money and pay more taxs to the city and county.

larger city's find it does make money for them

eather in the court room or tax's payed by compay's and then in return our city would look a lot better.

-- Posted by airforce one on Sun, Mar 6, 2011, at 7:42 PM

The city judge need's to fine more then he does and make people pay court cost rather then let them off the hook.

But when you look at how Shelbyville is ran you can under stand same old people dum way's of doing biss. here.

NO COURT COST NO MONEY FOR THE CITY SO HOW DO THEY PAY THE JUDGE?

BUT BOBO SCHOULD DO IT FOR FREE HES NOT THAT GOOD OF A LAWYER ANY WAY MAY BE HE JUST NEED'S THE MONEY LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL DOES GREED GREED GREED.

-- Posted by airforce one on Sun, Mar 6, 2011, at 8:08 PM

Couch lane be a good place to start they charge

$100 to 125 a month roches so bad they fall on you as you are visting people there it stink out there and most of the porches are reddy to fall in

the wiring is bad in most of the tralers thereit just the right place to start then German town Rd.

i know of three house's that need to be inspected

one has durt coming in the house from over head i lived there i know owner would not do any thing to stop it the city inspector would not do any thing because of who owend it.

We need ainspector who not afried of loseing his job by doing his job.

-- Posted by airforce one on Sun, Mar 6, 2011, at 8:40 PM

the put an add in the paper years ago stating they were going to inspect insde peoples homes...the ones that were trashy...never happened. i have personally sent emails and letters to the codes enforcer, without getting anything done about some junk and inoperable vehicles. everywhere you look in this town, trash and junk is everywhere. the only place i ever seen mr. langford was at wal mart and u.g.o. buying food, nowhere close to doing his job. i wrote the mayor a letter telling them to get rid of the judge and codes department as it was a waste of money because they dont do thier job... and it proved to me that the mayor didnt care either.

every dime they spend is wasteful without the concerns of the citizens, and they will find a way to spend it all and still want more.

-- Posted by kyhhfan1 on Mon, Mar 7, 2011, at 2:40 AM

Hey David Collins or kyhhfan1 or Author Author,

Normally, I just let things people say slide because it's part of the job and usually the person saying it has no idea what they are talking about. In this case, you have WRONGLY and publicy accused me of doing something that I have NEVER done. I have NEVER stepped foot in the UGO on or off the clock. You probably HAVE seen me in Wal Mart during business hours in the city CAR (not truck). This is because I tend to do the errand running for the Codes Department and sometimes administration and the city holds an account there. This is no secret. Where you are mistaken is, I don't drive the Codes truck as you have stated in previous anonymous letters. WRONG PERSON! So get your facts staight before falsely accusing ME of something I don't do.

Something else I don't do is respond to people who send complaint letters or e-mails on their OWN property. If you really gave a damn about the city, your mother (the property owner), or yourself, YOU would clean up YOUR yard. I am not your baby sitter and refuse to play your little reindeer games. Whenever you want to man up, grow up and quit hiding behind false names, come see me and we will discuss WHATEVER problems you have with me.

Sincerely,

John David Langford

-- Posted by jdl.7971 on Mon, Mar 7, 2011, at 11:26 AM

first off i am not david collins or any of the others you mentioned...

i did come into your office today and talked to you.

you was very nice and i appreciate the concern of what we talked about.

goes to prove there are some good guys out there trying to help!

thank you for your time and honesty!

-- Posted by kyhhfan1 on Mon, Mar 7, 2011, at 3:49 PM

mr langford ... i appologise and am sorry for what i said!

-- Posted by kyhhfan1 on Mon, Mar 7, 2011, at 3:52 PM

I want to thank kyfffan1 for coming in. We had a very productive meeting and were able to sort out some of the confusion from both sides. I want to apololigize for the confusion on my part regarding exactly who is who.

Thanks again khhfan1 and look forward to helping you any way I can.

-- Posted by jdl.7971 on Tue, Mar 8, 2011, at 8:41 AM

The city codes dept play little Reindeer games when it comes to some people here that own

property and a lot of it one was at the public hearing on trash.

This person was crying dont rase tax's on property

my doughter and i own a lot of property but they rent there dumps on the high end to and dont really take care of them i know i lived in one and the city did not help me.

What was said was i see your complant but cant help you and i bet he did not make her fill in the old sepik tank eather she told me i could do that she was not going to and i payed $500.00 a month rent to her.

my name is R. L. Halterman and i dont like how this city is ran by just a few and not the people who pay you all.

-- Posted by airforce one on Wed, Mar 9, 2011, at 5:46 AM

I have a suggestion that I don't think anyone has mentioned and that is move the city limits out past the country club where all the really nice, expensive home are located. That should bring in enough money to help, at least, cover for the trash pick up. I have lived in Shelbyville over 50 years and the city limits has never been moved in some directions and moved several times in others. Now it is being moved out 231N, but the people who should be able to pay more taxes are the ones exempt.

-- Posted by Poksalad on Sat, Mar 12, 2011, at 8:39 PM

poksalad! have you ever seen this city goverment do any thing right of corse not: We cant do that it would hurt the rich here in Shelbyville there the one's that run the town.

Has anybodey noticed the pepole that work for the city that have three boat's in there yard or a big bass boat that cost $60.000 parked in there yards and they say they dont make enought money.

the police make 48,000 a year so the fire dept is close behind them and they dont make enought money

but i only made 25,000 a year and lived good. Why cant they?

-- Posted by airforce one on Sun, Mar 13, 2011, at 1:53 PM

Mr. Cantrell stop crying abought the $11.00 for trash as it is payed for by owr TAX'S.

Now that i have said that, would explane why you want more money and what do you mean how are we going to pay for trash in the meantime.

As you say it not like we dont have money coming

sure you do if city was more diligent and city council more responable then they are we would not be in a mess.

like the outing they ok to go to Nashville that cost money right and we pay for there meals to right so how much is this going to cost the tax payer for some thing they could pass up.

I would like to know what the city bought or borrowed and how much if there in a hole not to say all the other holes you say that need to be filled.

I'll tell you how to fill the holes and that is all city emplyee's, city council,Mayor,City Manager city deptment head's take a pay cut that's how: you all are no better then the people out here that have.

And the city could make more money if they listen to the people that know how to make money and applay it by change and enforceing law's.

-- Posted by airforce one on Sun, Mar 13, 2011, at 4:23 PM


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Rodney Simmons is a life long resident of Bedford County. He grew up in the Halls Mill area and graduated from Community High School. Rodney's career has primarily been in the construction industry and he holds a degree in Construction Management. Some of his hobbies include fishing, reading and writing. He presently lives in Shelbyville with his wife and two teenage children.
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