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Rodney Simmons

Tolls and Taxes

Posted Friday, May 6, 2011, at 7:05 AM
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  • I honestly think that King Obama's objective is to bankrupt the American people and help create the One World Government and money system.

    No one can afford anymore taxes right now. And this "pay on mileage" tax is the worst idea yet. My brother-in-law drives approximately 80-100 miles a day (roundtrip)for work. There would be no way that he would be able to afford to go to work if he is having to pay taxes on every mile that he drives. He use to pay about $15 for gas for every 150 miles that he drives (he trucks has REALLY bad gas mileage). Now it is costing him $15 for every 100 miles he drives. He practically has to fill up almost every day. It's horrible.

    King Obama needs to let out the reserves or do something, putting more tax on us and making our money worth less than it normally is, is not helping. I hope that everyone who voted for him really likes his type of "Change". I'll be glad when the election come back around and we get him out of office.

    -- Posted by PrpleHze on Sat, May 7, 2011, at 9:50 AM
  • Hate is not good for America Obama is the president like it or not calling him anything but Mr. President is not right.

    I dont like a lot of the thang's he's doing; I thank he could do better but he's there not me or you live with it then try to vote him out.

    -- Posted by airforce one on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 2:27 AM
  • Hate?


    -- Posted by style on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 8:48 AM
  • Get him out of office? I hope so as much as anyone, but I'm afraid the same money that bought the office last time will do it again. I don't think the people of the United States really elected our present president, but foreign influence which is not good. Greed does so many bad things.

    -- Posted by Poksalad on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 1:04 PM
  • Poksalad I guess you prefer the money that bought Bush into office?????? And as for being elected by the people, at least wasn't appointed by a republican portion of government like some say Bush was. Come on folks grow up here. Obama WAS ELECTED by the people just not YOUR people, he was born in AMERICA, he IS NOT Muslim, until your willing to let go of these childish and yes HATE centered agendas we will continue to be held back from the important things. Face issues not propaganda and let PRESIDENT OBAMA do his job. And yes GREED is bad which is why it was such a horrible thing to allow corporations unlimited ability to fund candidates - their Greed and bank accounts will always be able to out spend the average citizen voters thus eliminating any voice we have in government. The government was formed for the people not the corporations -- they should not have a say in who is elected.....!!!

    As for tax on mileage "sounds" like an option to consider, but I don't think it would be a good one. It would really harm the travel industry, the average folks like most of us scrimp and save as it is to travel and that would be something that would prevent many from being able to. And yes it would make a hardship for many with day to day commutes. As for those who by choice drive gas guzzlers ( not necessary to their jobs) it is a choice they make - they could chose to drive something reasonable, I don't like paying so much to drive my van places but it is a choice I make. Most of those you see driving those huge 4 wheel drive ,duel wheel, souped up trucks do so for personal enjoyment - they CHOOSE to have horrible gas mileage so their complaints are just a bunch of useless whining. (I do not include the ones who actually need them needed for employment) That comes down to personal responsibility and choices.

    -- Posted by wonderwhy on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 3:33 PM
  • PrpleHze----- aren't you a bit old to be calling names like a little child? What does it accomplish? How do you expect people to take you as a mature rational person when you resort to such childish tactics? Just asking.

    -- Posted by wonderwhy on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 3:36 PM
  • Cut spending. Slash social programs like they were the victim in an 80's horror movie, and the government won't need more money.

    Return to constitutional principles instead of having the government trying to do everything for everyone.

    These new "tolls" are just a backdoor attempt to regulate behavior since manbearpig's global warming scam is losing traction.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 7:55 PM
  • A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing right. Cut spending. Cut entitlement programs. No more 600.00 government procured toilet seats or hammers. No more gazillion dollar grants to any university for the study of hog farts or how flies make other flies. Farts stink and flies reproduce. Get over it. Drill here...drill now. The tree huggers might hate it, but they buy gas too.

    -- Posted by Tim Lokey on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 11:31 PM
  • Last time I check the president was not a god or deity and was just a politician so if someone wants to call him something other than president, then so be it. I think I have heard far worse than the term "king" being used to describe a president and by both sides of the political spectrum.

    But seriously, the main problem is the government spends more than it receives. The solution seems so simple and especially since most of us deal with this exact issue on a day to day basis. When it happens to us, we learn to cut back our expenditures and so should our government. Plain and simple reasoning to me but the government doesn't deal well with rational reasoning.

    -- Posted by jaxspike on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 12:18 AM
  • The reason I consider Obama with the title of "King" and not President is several reasons. The main is that he believes that he is the ruler of the United States. The President truly only has a limited amount of power. He cannot make laws; he cannot pass laws; but he can approve laws. Laws can still be passed without his signature. However, whenever Obama says that he wants something he gets it - no matter what it is and no matter what the vote or opinion of the American people is. An example, he stated that we will have Universal Healthcare. There are more people against it than for it, however it is now law. He wanted bailouts for banks and the wealthy - he got it. And so on and so on. I don't know if the House if passing these laws because if they go against him then they are considered racist or what is going on. But he acts like he is the ruler of this country and not a representative of the people.

    He has been on TV more than any president, while in office, than I have ever seen. Why doesn't he stop with the TV time and do what he promised before he was let into office?

    As for voting: I also agree that he was not voted in. He was a nobody from Chicago. No one had ever heard of him. He went from being a civil rights attorney and an university professor to president. He did serve three terms in the Senate but that is the only political background that he has.

    He, as well as all of the rich in office, have no idea how to cut spending or save money. #1: The entitlement programs have to be limited (I don't think it could be cut completely because there would be people who would die without food and medicine.) #2: They have to stop giving money away to other countries, worry about this country first. #3: Enough with the stimulus for everyone. #4: Cut all unnecessary spending.

    It is really sad to see that people who do not have a lot of money know how to spend money wisely and save money. While the rich government has no idea. They believe that putting more tax on the lower classes and taking more of our money will pay off debt, which is simply not true and we all know that. You have to start at the very top of the ladder. If Obama is so concerned about the deficit why doesn't he and the other politicians take a pay cut?

    -- Posted by PrpleHze on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 7:13 AM
  • Wow what an imagination I see why you chose the name you did. How about a link to the video of PRESIDENT OBAMA declaring he is Muslim, and reliable - verifiable references to your other UNIQUE trivia ?

    -- Posted by wonderwhy on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 5:03 PM
  • -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 8:58 PM
  • Our leaders most assuredly do not think that we are stupid. There was however some debate over the issue, and in typical bureaucratic fashion, a commission was assembled in order to investigate the heinous allegations. The commission selflessly delved into a serious examination of public school curriculums, blog postings, and You-Tube videos in order to find out, once and for all, that we are indeed stupid.

    -- Posted by memyselfi on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 10:24 PM
  • Mikey that "you tube" cut and paste job was a very good manipulation of piecing bits and pieces together to make the impression of a real message......... ANYONE can take bits of this and that and paste them together to create a message of their choosing. They could take the Pope and cut and piece bits of his messages to convince people he was Ben Laden if they tried......... But we do know that YOU TUBE is the utmost in reliable factual information ( to people who are gullible enough to believe any thing just because it imply what THEY want it to )

    If You Tube is so reliable then Mike explain this one----http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv2j_CnyUAQ

    (get the point -about the validity of YOU Tube Facts ) LOL

    -- Posted by wonderwhy on Tue, May 10, 2011, at 1:33 PM
  • He went to a christian church for years and apparently never heard any of Jeremiah Wright's sermons. :-)

    Whether he is muslim or not, U.S. born or not, doesn't really matter because there are so many other reasons to not like him.

    He is a socialist who has done his level best to ruin our economy. He was absolutely unqualified for the job of president, and that shows in his results today. He is more concerned with his legacy than with following his oath to defend the constitution.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, May 10, 2011, at 2:14 PM
  • If I remember my history correctly, the interstate system was originally called the National Defense Highway System, or something similar, and it was pitched to Congress in the 1950s, Cold War era not only for its civilian benefits but as necessary for the military to facilitate movement of troops and materiel cross-country in the event of an emergency. You'll note that most military facilities have Interstates nearby.

    -- Posted by Jicarney on Fri, May 13, 2011, at 2:01 PM
  • Obama has tried to roll back the Bush tax cuts that would help pay off the debt.The debt that Bush ran up paying for two wars.If Bush had not gave the rich a tax cut that we could not afford then the debt would not be as high.Now the republicans will not let the tax cuts expire,they want to take benefits away from the poor and elderly to balance the budget.All repubicans want is to keep us poor at the bottom while they put money in thier pockets and pockets of big business.

    -- Posted by jdem on Mon, May 16, 2011, at 12:56 PM
  • Tolls and taxes? Should be Tolls OR taxes! assuming we are talking about paying for our roadways.

    The talk is that those who choose electric cars would need to pay some type of toll or mileage tax to make up for the lost revenue from taxes on gasoline. While that seems to make sense, because the roads have to be paid for, it does not account for the fact that the electric cars use electricity which is also taxed.

    I know someone who bought an electric car and discovered that their electric bill went up about $100.oo/month because of the extra power needed to charge the car every night.

    Taxation is alread to extensive! Some seem to think that taxing someone else (the rich) more will somehow benefit them. It doesn't! Injustice is injustice it only causes harm.

    Obama and his supporters blame tax cuts on the rich for causing Bush to spend in deficit, which he did. Bush defict was $400Billion, that was unacceptable! Obama's budget last yr was $1.2 Trillion and this year $1.6 Trillion. 3 TIMES AND 4 TIMES MORE THAN BUSH EACH YEAR RESPCTIVELY. That debt cannot be blamed on anyone but the one who incurred it.

    Taxes and Tolls? By my calculations, with a debt of $14 Trillion, each man, woman, and child, in the U.S. will need to pay approx. $40,000.00 each just to cover the debt. I, for one, don't have that much money.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Mon, May 16, 2011, at 4:00 PM
  • I believe everyone (rich and poor) should pay the same amount of tax, basically a sales or consumption tax. Say 10% on all purchases. If you only spend 100 dollars you only pay $10.00 tax.

    If you spend 100,000 dollars you pay $10,000 tax. etc. No exemptions, no loopholes, no deductions, no individual income tax returns to file at the end of the year. If you don't buy a car or gas you don't pay taxes or tolls on roads, if you use a taxi or bus, you pay your taxes through that service at the same rate.

    We have waaayyyy too much government. The Lord said in Genesis "by the sweat of your brow" and "in pain" will we eat. The Lord said it and it is true, there is no good way around that. Everyway that has been tried fails because it is an attempt to circumvent the knowledge of God and what he has put into place.

    When one man or group of men (government) tries to "redistribute the wealth" it will fail. Wealth is not to be forcibly redistributed, it is to be earned by the work and use of the facilities God has given us or freely and generously given in love to those in need.

    Frederic Bastiat put it best in "The Law" and accurately called it "plundering" because that's what it is. Robin Hood was just a thief. Two wrongs will never make a right. If the rich got that way by plundering, the law should put a stop to the plundering, that's all! The law/government should not be used as a means to seperate classes/races in society for special treatment, promotion, repression, or plundering.

    I realize that this is very far from where we are now, but if everyone in this country would read "The Law". It could help to open some eyes to see that the U.S. has the best chance of forming such a government. The constitution to support it is already in place. "Let us try Liberty"

    As far as calculations, that would be like hitting a moving target. I don't know exact figures. I used approximates; 14 Trillion/350 million people= $40,000/person

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Mon, May 16, 2011, at 10:13 PM
  • Can I ask a question here, what happened to Thom Williamson's blog?

    -- Posted by Midnight Rider on Tue, May 17, 2011, at 7:50 AM
  • From what I read about the Surface Transportation Revenues Office - presently an electric automobile does not pay fuel tax - which funds the highway system. A highway usage tax would alleviate the free rider problem caused by increase usage in electric and alternative fuel vehicles.

    -- Posted by Grit on Tue, May 17, 2011, at 12:18 PM
  • The idea behind the mileage based tax is that the government will lose revenue from gas taxes as more people start driving electric and alternative fuel vehicles. However, no where have I read that the mileage based tax would only apply to those who drive such vehicles.

    -- Posted by Rodney Simmons on Tue, May 17, 2011, at 12:36 PM
  • Taxation is already applied to electricity and the alternative fuels that these cars will use. They still require fuel/energy!! All that should be needed is a re-distribution of the tax dollars that are already being taken in through the utilities that provide electricity and alternative fuels.

    This just appears to be a way of levying a new tax.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Tue, May 17, 2011, at 12:56 PM
  • And what must a Motorcycle look like with an electric motor and Batteries and its riders with all that between their legs. Motorcyclists like motorcycles because of the great gas mileage.

    -- Posted by Unique-Lies on Tue, May 17, 2011, at 1:23 PM

    Here we call them scooters, but you can get bigger or smaller ones depending on your need. This link show pictures of electric bikes that are quite common in China. They are great for getting around town and short haul trips.


    -- Posted by Midnight Rider on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 12:54 AM
  • Here is an article from CNN relating to this tax http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/18/news/economy/gas_tax_drivers/

    -- Posted by Rodney Simmons on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 10:53 AM
  • A right to travel?

    -- Posted by memyselfi on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 5:13 PM
  • Unique-Lies just one simple question here ----- did you devote so much time when Bush was in office to political matter as you do now? Or was it all just fine when your guy was there?

    -- Posted by wonderwhy on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 12:09 PM
  • Unique-Lies, Yes, but how can you compare any freedom of movement with cost free movement? I do not support additional taxation (or the privatization of roadways) but someone has to pay. To claim that a mileage tax interferes with your right to move between the states without prejudice does not take into account that roadways (even public ones) must be built and maintained. To carry it a step further, the gasoline tax, as it now stands, interferes with your movement as well. For that matter, the cost of a new car is seriously impacting my desire to travel. Maybe I could go to GM headquarters and demand that my right to travel be met with a new truck. I could get there by going to the airport and explaining to the ticket counter that while I do not have any money, I do have a right to travel. If they do not comply, I could initiate a civil suit, maybe even a class action, to ensure that my rights are fulfilled. Do you see what I am getting at? Whether public or private, travel is not free. It can definitely be taxed.

    -- Posted by memyselfi on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 5:02 PM
  • memyselfi- I am not sure if the statement made by Unique Lies about the right to travel is indeed a constitutional right but I don't agree with your statement that travel can be taxed. Products purchased, such as gas, cars, airline tickets subway tickets etc can be taxed just as any other product. But I do not agree with the government taxing the distance we travel.If the government can pass a mileage tax then who's to say they will not try passing a tax on the miles you travel by air, train or subway. We are over taxed on every aspect of our life and the government considering to add more is repugnant.

    -- Posted by Rodney Simmons on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 6:45 PM
  • It is not literally guaranteed in the Constitution, but it is implied through a broad interpretation, mainly as a barrier to state border autonomy and fair treatment of non-residents.

    As you pointed out, travel is already taxed. It is not a matter of if it can, but how will it be. If you think about it, we are indeed indirectly taxed per mile through our purchase of gasoline, although our exact mileage varies slightly. What if cars came equipped with token readers and the tokens were exchanged for miles, and it was the tokens that were taxed? It does not matter how, the point that I am trying to make is that not only can travel be taxed, in the public sphere, it must necessarily be taxed in some fashion, either directly or indirectly.

    Please do not misunderstand, I do not like taxes either, but roads are a necessity today, and I would prefer for them to remain in the public domain.

    -- Posted by memyselfi on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 8:54 PM
  • Unique-Lies, That is just too much for me to think about this morning. Do you miss the old blogs, like this one: http://www.t-g.com/blogs/michaelbell/entry/17900? I guess you have written a long book or two by now.

    -- Posted by memyselfi on Sat, May 21, 2011, at 6:46 AM
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