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eBay Chatter - eBay competitors, who are they?

Posted Monday, May 26, 2008, at 3:15 PM

I realize that at a time when many eBay sellers are upset about recent changes, I may be opening a Pandora's box for negative comments but I hope we can stay on target.

In another blog, the statement was made that there are many alternatives when it comes to selling on the internet, OTHER than eBay. I asked for them there but it seemed to be a conversation stopper and I don't want it to be.

Why? Because I want to sell successfully and if someone knows of better or even close to equal marketplace to eBay, I want to try it out.

Bidville.com a division of uBid will be closing in June. It was touted as being an eBay competitor. I have visited it several times, but never found it close to the same marketplace. Apparently others felt the same.

Today I sampled their selection of 35mm digital SLR cameras and to be generous I would say there were about 200 items. Then I went to eBay with the exact same search parameters and got 25,098!

The same lopsided results have resulted when I searched numerous other "eBay competitive" sites. I liked the format on some and some tried to mimic eBay in looks and feel, but the volume of merchandise and members were not even close.

I am a firm believer in not having "all my eggs in one basket" so PLEASE, someone share the sites you know that are alive and doing well.


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uBid sucks. Hated them, worst place I have ever shopped online. Now, to comment how you compare one site to ebay. If you take those 25,000 you found on ebay, how many could be fraudulent or fakes or cheap chinese ripoffs.

To buy from ebay is such a crapshoot now; it is absolutely pitiful. My last purchase was for a laptop and it was a horrid experience, from the time of purchase to getting PART of my money back took over 65 days. That is unheard of when it comes to customer support or satisfaction.

Now the only real way to have the best auction site with all the stuff you want is to build it yourself. I already did it, and no-one was interested in helping me test it out. In short, it might take me longer, but I will do it all by myself and hope my customers will forgive me if I make a mistake.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Mon, May 26, 2008, at 4:13 PM

What was bad about uBid? I never actually used them.

To buy from anyone on-line is a bit of a crap shoot, the same with mail order, etc.. When you can not see the item, touch it, etc. who knows?

But then again, I got taken from a well known camera store in New York City and my credit card company would not back me up, since I was there in person. At least credit cards and PayPal SEEM to give the buyer more consideration when it is bought remotely.

As far as how many cameras could be fraudulent, I can't guess but electronics, jewelry and fashion are three of the tougher categories. I tried several times to buy my next camera from an eBay seller, but research and gut feeling keeps holding me back. I buy other things, but I have not found a 'warm fuzzy' yet in this arena.

These are some of the reasons eBay keeps tightening the rules, but to hear the sellers out there, all they are trying to do is screw the marketplace. The only way I can think of them being able to force the customer service issue is by doing what they are trying in Australia, make it PayPal only. Even then, it is a consuming task when you deal with 1.3 million sellers.

As you noted, mistakes are going to be made and you can not please everyone. eBay is making some as we write this, but I trust they will adjust or, the platform will go away.

I would think you would get some critical evaluation from all the people who are supposedly leaving eBay. If you open it up to them, I hope you have a very tough skin. I fear that many are professional complainers, and nothing will ever please them.

Again, I am not saying some of the things eBay is doing sets well with me, but I have never tried to manage a platform so huge and diverse.

I truly wish you good luck with your effort.

-- Posted by stevemills on Mon, May 26, 2008, at 4:57 PM

There is no one size fits all replacement for eBay. I do a lot of my shopping through Amazon.

There are many sites some of whom like Bidville will fall by the wayside.

As a buyer the best thing to do is Google search for what you want, any professional seller will have their items entered in Googlebase.

As a seller you will simply have to search to find the one that fits you best.

There is a whole list at

www.powersellersunite.com/auctionsitewat...

with some traffic figures.

Food for thought:

Decide first if you want auction format or fixed price, choose accordingly, the above list is auction format.

There are good sites with traffic that are free, eCrater & iOffer are very busy, Loudfrog has surprisingly good sales and comes up frequently in search, great community.

PlunderHere is under new ownership and looking promising, eWaey has traffic and so does OnlineAuction.com although that is subscription and so is the most rapidly growing of all eBid.....

All the best!

-- Posted by Henrietta on Mon, May 26, 2008, at 7:39 PM

Thanks Henrietta, especially for the eCrater, iOffer, eWaey and Loudfrog. I will check those out.

-- Posted by stevemills on Mon, May 26, 2008, at 8:11 PM

I went to iOffer, the next largest to eBay to do my never-ending search for a Nikon D80. Out of four Nikon listings that I chose, 3 took me to listings for Canon cameras and one took me to a seller who has not been on line for over three weeks, according to the note provided by the service.

Needless to say, it did not impress me on the first go-around, but I will try again to see if I somehow misunderstood what clicking on the listing is supposed to do.

-- Posted by stevemills on Mon, May 26, 2008, at 8:27 PM

Apologies I should have written eBid.net.

@Stevemills, why don't you go to www.google.com and search? It would be an awful lot quicker and much easier. If you bought from a web site using your CC you would have absolutely the best protection, right?

Why do you insist on looking on auction type sites, are you trying to make a point? Anything I have on an auction site you can buy cheaper from my website!

-- Posted by Henrietta on Mon, May 26, 2008, at 8:50 PM

Google >> Shopping >>

http://www.google.com/products?q=Nikon+D...

-- Posted by Henrietta on Mon, May 26, 2008, at 8:54 PM

I can give you a place where I'm selling more than on ebay. I sell my artwork and ebay's sell thru rate is at an all time low of just above 10 percent. My own website outsells ebay right now and at a much lower cost. ;-)

www.ACEOart.net

-- Posted by Patricia013 on Mon, May 26, 2008, at 10:08 PM

Henrietta in fact, I AM trying to make a point. I figure while I am searching for sites that are supposed to be better than eBay, I might as well see if I can get lucky with my Nikon search.

Those who read this blog on a regular basis know that I am an Education Specialist trained by eBay. All this commotion about eBay dying or being so bad made me look for alternatives and I never found any that get close. Still have not.

I have not known eBay to be a great place for art. I recommend other sites for my students to check out. Patricia, I believe yours is a private site, so it would not meet that need.

-- Posted by stevemills on Tue, May 27, 2008, at 8:11 AM

Patricia, if you're selling your own art, have you tried etsy.com? I've had a bit of luck on there as have a bunch of my friends.

-- Posted by cfrich on Tue, May 27, 2008, at 9:13 AM

interesting I didn't know we had alot of artists in shelbyville.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Tue, May 27, 2008, at 11:30 AM

We have quite a few in the county but you may be referring to Patricia Ann. I believe she may be from Southern California, but her link gets reset and her website seems to do the same quite often, so I can not be sure.

We get decent coverage around the world with this blog, which is how some Australians came in on the conversation in another blog.

-- Posted by stevemills on Tue, May 27, 2008, at 1:56 PM

Yeah I noticed that,

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Tue, May 27, 2008, at 2:41 PM

I have not shopped on e-bay..But my son has several times for parts on car's and trucks that he works on...he has so far had good luck with e-bay and pay-pal. But if there is a better place to go i would like to know...Monday evening when the storm came thru here and we were at the park cooking out..The lighting hit our home and blew out both of our V C R players ( one I had just given my husband for christmas.. And our main computer (using my son's lap top now) and his brand new playstation 3. So we do not have renter's insurance so we are going to have to buy something used in the computer and V C R player area. Is there any good sites that we can go on for that? Our money is very tight and now I have been put on 2 new drugs that my insurance does not cover and If it wasn't for turning in all our drink cans that we have been saving we could not have gotten my new med's this month..

-- Posted by rebelrose on Wed, May 28, 2008, at 2:00 AM

Be careful with electronics ANYWHERE on the internet or mail order. There are always vcr players at auctions and yard sales that go for low pricing. Just try them out if you can.

Someone out here might be able to help with an inexpensive computer. I've given my last working one away, but if my wife lets me buy her a new one, I will look you up.

Do yo want me to start a blog to see if someone has one to donate?

-- Posted by stevemills on Wed, May 28, 2008, at 10:06 AM

STEVEMILLS....YES THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL...WE DO NOT HAVE CABLE OR A DISH FOR OUR T.V....SO WE USE OUR V.C.R. ALOT...WHEN THE WEATHER IS CLOUDY OR BAD WE USUALLY CAN ONLY GET ONE STATION IN GOOD...WE REALLY MISS THE MAIN COMPUTER SO VERY MUCH..IT IS HOW WE TALK TO ALL OUR OTHER CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN..THINGS ARE GETTING SO BAD THAT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT ALOT OF US ARE GOING TO DO...WE LIKE TO FISH AND DO SIMPLE THINGS...BUT THE WAY GAS IS GETTING IT WILL COST ALOT TO EVEN RIDE TO A GOOD FISHING AREA...WENT TO WAL-MART TODAY TO PICK UP A FEW THINGS AND THEY WANTED A DOLLAR FOR ONE TOMATOE...WE ARE REALLY GOING TO MISS OUR GARDEN THIS YEAR...( I DID NOT GET THE TOMATOE).I ALSO NOTICED IN THE PAPER TONITE THAT ONE OF OUR BANKS WERE ROBBED AGAIN..I THINK THAT IS THE SECOND ONE IN THE PAST 2 WEEKS...WHAT IS GOING ON??? SORRY I GOT OFF THE SUBJECT...THANKS AGAIN STEVE...

-- Posted by rebelrose on Wed, May 28, 2008, at 8:49 PM

Why are you going to miss your garden?

I will make the post right now.

-- Posted by stevemills on Thu, May 29, 2008, at 7:26 AM

Rebelrose, we have some people wanting to help. Contact me through Steve@bedfordtradingpost.com and we can discuss this more privately.

-- Posted by stevemills on Thu, May 29, 2008, at 10:28 AM


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Steve Mills and his wife have one daughter and live on a farm outside of Bell Buckle. They previously owned two coffee/ice cream shops, currently operate an internet sales company and teach classes, but his primary job involves the paper industry worldwide. Hobbies and interests lie in gardening, photography, recorded music and of course, their pets.