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Will Mr. Biden make it to election day?

Posted Friday, September 26, 2008, at 6:02 PM

Most of you following the race have heard about poor Joe Biden's stumblings. Some think that he is being purposely coached to create a situation where Mrs. Clinton has to step in to save the party ticket.

Publicly asking a wheelchair bound man to stand up, suggesting Hillary would have been a better choice than him, referring to a president (who was not president at the time) going on TV to explain the Depression when they did not have TV yet, all sounds as if he is trying to self-destruct.

Is it by design or just Senator Biden being himself?


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I think the proper question is, "Will Sarah Palin make it to election day?" Her interview with Katie Couric has been less than satisfactory.

-- Posted by nathan.evans on Thu, Oct 2, 2008, at 9:48 AM

It failed... YAY!

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Mon, Sep 29, 2008, at 3:14 PM

And I still ask how do you blame a president for trying to correct something five years ago and the opposition said there was no problem, but NOW in HINDSIGHT they claim he did not try to do anything?

-- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Sep 29, 2008, at 1:30 PM

I understand that it also had 20% earmarked for one of Mr. Obama's favorite organization ACORN. Was that removed?

-- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Sep 29, 2008, at 1:28 PM

But since we are talking about the last 8 years, what is your response about the President trying to reform Fannie and Freddie in 2003 and the Democratic leadership saying there was no problem? They encouraged Fannie and Freddie to MAKE MORE LOANS to unqualified people.

How do you blame Bush for that?

Posted by stevemills on Sun, Sep 28, 2008, at 1:28 PM

Bush had no opposition in Congress from his inauguration until 2006. SO... in 2003, why didn't that problem get fixed? I suppose the same reason we had passage of NCLB, Patriot Act and multiple record deficits. A little more than 5 1/2 years of Republican rule, and suddenly this is something the Democrats should have passed. LOL. Explain to me why it took more than 12 years to pass a minimum wage increase, and less than 12 days to pass this bailout plan, which was at first designed to ONLY help Wall Street.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Sun, Sep 28, 2008, at 5:18 PM

IF they are protecting her, I understand it when you consider that she went from Alaska politics to World politics in the matter of a few weeks. Not much time to "gear up". Comparatively Mr. Obama was running for the Oval Office for years wile he was supposedly doing a Senator's job for the people of Illinois.

It is a popular mantra to keep saying enough of the last 8 years, but McCain is NOT the same. In fact, I did not like all that McCain supported because it appeared too liberal for me.

But since we are talking about the last 8 years, what is your response about the President trying to reform Fannie and Freddie in 2003 and the Democratic leadership saying there was no problem? They encouraged Fannie and Freddie to MAKE MORE LOANS to unqualified people.

How do you blame Bush for that?

The Democrats now have control of the Congress but they can not pass the bailout plan without Republicans? What is that about? Reality says it is NOT because they just want to have bipartisanship. They either could not get all of their members to agree or they want to play politics by blaming others.

I have not heard the Dems talking points on that yet so maybe someone has the answer.

-- Posted by stevemills on Sun, Sep 28, 2008, at 1:28 PM

She has NO idea... there is a reason the media doesn't see her. The only thing her selection proved was the utter desperation of the McCain campaign to energize its base. It did just that, but failed to achieve anything else.

I wish I could like her, I wish I could believe she is some great reformer, and most of I wish when she said "HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE" over the troopergate case, she would have actually meant it, instead of hiding behind million dollar McCain appointed lawyers... Please, we've seen enough of this the last 8 years, and everyone wonders why I can't distinguish between Bush and McCain.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Sun, Sep 28, 2008, at 8:44 AM

Speaking of Governor Palin, where is the news coverage of her now? I admit, I shy away from too much "news", but all I can recall hearing about is McCain, Obama and Biden.

-- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Sep 27, 2008, at 7:05 AM

The Mccain campaign has been hiding her from the media. After watching her interview with Katie Couric, I see why.

Sarah Palin on the bailout package:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXP...

Seriously, what the hell is she talking about?

-- Posted by Richard on Sun, Sep 28, 2008, at 3:27 AM

Good point. It is interesting that Congress rarely, if ever takes responsibility. One congressional leader blamed this present financial crisis on Bush, yet stated that Fannie $ Freddie were in no trouble a few years ago and shot down Bush's proposal to regulate better.

Then he and a few others say that the Republicans never met a regulation they ever liked and blame the Republicans for not getting a bail-out plan passed, yet they have the majority and don't need the Republicans.

So if it is so good, why do they not just pass it and take credit for a good bill? Or is there crap in there that they do not want to take sole responsibility for so they try to blame the Republican Pres. candidate for "blowing it up".

Even some Democrats slipped and said they were not on board yet for this bill, yet the leaders get camera time saying that there was full agreement BEFORE McCain got to town. What a bunch of crap, but the press likes it and the American people........

-- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Sep 27, 2008, at 10:21 AM

You want hear how any politician plans to do anything. Too many voters think that the President is all powerful, but the truth is that Congress can cause havoc in their plans from day one in office.

That's why I laugh at diehards who blame everything over the years on whoever the President is at the time and think their candidate will be all-powerful and cure all the problems that have been around since I remember.

-- Posted by stardust on Sat, Sep 27, 2008, at 7:36 AM

Speaking of Governor Palin, where is the news coverage of her now? I admit, I shy away from too much "news", but all I can recall hearing about is McCain, Obama and Biden.

-- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Sep 27, 2008, at 7:05 AM

Someone told me there will be no interaction among the V.P. candidates and each response will be timed, to the T! That will probably work for Joe Biden's benefit because of long winded answers. It will also be good for Sarah because she won't really have to answer anything... LOL.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Sat, Sep 27, 2008, at 6:15 AM

That's ok. Sarah Palin will make Joe Biden look like a genius at the vice presidential debate.

-- Posted by Richard on Sat, Sep 27, 2008, at 3:50 AM

The Clinton's are NOT stupid. They both have a vested interest in Mr. Obama's losing this election. An eight year Obama term would all but destroy Hillary's chance to become President, and even if he was only a one term President, she could'nt run again until 2016 or 2020. The Clinton's understand that the Obama campaign is on the verge of self destructing, thus allowing a McCain presidency for only one brief four year term. Then of course, Hillary and her Vice Presidential nominee can win by a landslide in 2012 when the Democrats correct their mistake of not chosing her as their nominee in 2008. This will clear the way for Democrats to quite possibly lock up the White House until 2028. She has dreamed of sitting in the oval office since she was a college student, and she truly believes that this country owes her the presidency. I still won't vote for her, or any Democrat, but this is the way I see things playing out.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Sat, Sep 27, 2008, at 2:24 AM

Some partizan cynics might claim he's trying to give the public what it wants (or deserves).

I'd suggest that he is overshadowibg his virtues with all-too-human fallibility.

Perhaps,he and others should concentrate on staying rested,clear-headed and ready to deal with the issues at hand.

Performing like circus acts is no longer considered good form for seals or tigers much less elephants and donkeys.

If candidates falter while courting the vote,they'll have difficulty convincing us they can take on the daily,unglamorous drudgery of leadership.

I'd prefer to see less stage presence and more indications that the people running will put in a full,painstaking day thinking hard,working hard and caring enough to get us what we need even if it's not what we demand.

I want our elected officials to be part of a team and neither puppetmasters nor someone's tools.

I want some people we can trust who can trust those that work with them and those who placed them in office.

If we find ourselves asking what games the candidates are playing,it might be that the players have already assured our defeat-whichever side they think they're working for.

-- Posted by quantumcat on Fri, Sep 26, 2008, at 7:34 PM

I've honestly been wondering the same thing. I certainly hope that's not the case. I'd hate to think that the candidates would insult our intelligent by attempting such an obvious ploy.

I wish ALL of the candidates would just stick to the issues (in plain English) and be done with it. I'm sick and tired of empty promises from both sides.

Not only do I want to hear what they intend to do, but HOW they intend to do it, and at what cost. I think they can't answer these questions because they don't want to admit that they will have to raise taxes. I don't see any way around it, yet nobody's willing to admit it.

-- Posted by Nobody'sFool on Fri, Sep 26, 2008, at 7:27 PM


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Steve Mills and his wife have one daughter and live on a farm outside of Bell Buckle. They previously owned two coffee/ice cream shops, currently operate an internet sales company and teach classes, but his primary job involves the paper industry worldwide. Hobbies and interests lie in gardening, photography, recorded music and of course, their pets.