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What to do about Charlie?

Posted Tuesday, March 1, 2011, at 8:18 AM

I am a bit mystified why the question is even being raised by the network that promotes his show.

It may seem strange to some who know me as a bit conservative but he is not killing anyone. (maybe himself, but..) Yes, he is not the role model I would choose for anyone but his network glorifies this behavior on Two & a Half Men and then they get "mightier than thou" when he actually lives the insanity?

The network is promoting this, maybe even encouraging it, but when someone lives it they say it is strange, unbalanced? What about them being hypocritical? That is the story to me.

Why not do some introspective evaluation on their OWN?

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I was watching last night's "Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson" this morning while getting ready for work. Ferguson, echoing what he did a few years ago regarding Brittney Spears, used the cold open of his show to say that at this point, he's uncomfortable continuing to make jokes about Charlie Sheen. He compared the attention paid to Sheen to the Victorian era when tourists would pay to tour Bedlam asylum in England and look into the cell doors at the inmates.

Ferguson, of course, had substance abuse problems in his past, long before he had the talk show. He's been quite open about them, to his credit. But I think it helps remind him that these are human beings going through serious problems with potentially-tragic consequences.

-- Posted by Jicarney on Tue, Mar 1, 2011, at 8:27 AM

I misspoke. It was the 1700s, not the Victorian era, when visitors paid to view the inmates at Bedlam. I guess it just sounded Victorian somehow.

-- Posted by Jicarney on Tue, Mar 1, 2011, at 9:49 AM

I do not know if you watch the show, but folks who do, would you not agree that the basic theme of his character is a fellow who has a drinking problem and sexual obsession?

Maybe like watching the asylum? When it first came on, I was amazed that it was in the time-slot and ranted a bit about it.

I was also amazed that they allowed such a young actor to be in it (he was at the start). I can remember a line where Charlie asks if he is a bad role-model and the kid says something like 'are you kidding? A guy who has a different woman every night, you are a great role model'.

Of course, along with that is the substance abuse theme, so why is the network so surprised?

Again, I think what should be evaluated is the content of programming these days, not the personal life of Charlie Sheen.

As everyone well knows, this is not a condition of one show or one network. Considering that these shows are beamed around the world, it is no wonder we are looked at as a morally bankrupt nation.

-- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Mar 1, 2011, at 11:04 AM

I have to agree, Steve, and I actually watch the show -- but only because it comes on before Mike & Molly, which I love. I'm old enough I still feel a jolt when I hear anything worse than "hell" or "damn," and that's on basic cable and networl. We chose not to get the movie channels because I didn't want to hear the really bad stuff (No, I am NOT a Quentin Tarrantino fan)and now, it's all over the place and I don't even have to pay for it.


Unfortunately, our programming is chosen by the lowest common denominator -- money. The best way to change the programming is to appeal to the advertisers. I know of one show on that station I won't name that is being threatened because petitions have managed to turn away at least four major advertisers.

As for poor Charlie, it is so obvious there is something terribly wrong with him and having raised little boys, I've seen my share of tantrums and I know a desperate bid for attention when I see one. Having been married for half my life, I also know a midlife crisis when I see one. I hope Charlie wises up before it's too late.

-- Posted by MotherMayhem on Tue, Mar 1, 2011, at 3:54 PM

Steve you are right. Network TV has sunk to the depths of depravity. Children should not be allowed in the same room with a TV even if it is turned off.

-- Posted by Wolf Clan on Tue, Mar 1, 2011, at 5:25 PM

I agree with you Wolf Clan. It's horrible that there aren't any shows on that are "family friendly" anymore. My kids do watch a few shows with me such as some episodes of Fringe, some paranormal shows, and sport shows. But the majority of what we view is on cable because on the local channels basically anything after 6 or maybe 7 is no longer family friendly. My kids, if they watch TV, normally watch something on the 3 1/2 kid channels: ABC Family(sometimes for kids when it's not teen shows), Disney, Nick, or Cartoon Network. But even Nick and Cartoon Network go to adult type shows after 8 or 9.

As for the Charlie drama, he seriously needs some help. I understand that he is having a drug addiction problem, but something is wrong with his head. I saw the interviews on TV and something is not right about him. I have never seen his show, and don't plan on it.

-- Posted by PrpleHze on Tue, Mar 1, 2011, at 9:33 PM

When all is said and done this guy laughs all the way to the bank. I do hope he gets the help he needs, but as long as he is in the head lines - we are all enabling him ( or any other who is feeding on the attention their actions are getting them). Every time he gets a head line for his nutty behavior it is the same as handing an alcoholic a case of beer. We feed the addiction.

-- Posted by wonderwhy on Thu, Mar 3, 2011, at 10:21 AM

I have to agree with you Steve.

Charlie Sheen is a great actor and all the shows I've watched with him in it, he does a great job.

In two and a half men he plays his part well. This is one of the few shows on TV that actually makes me laugh.

I have to chuckle when I see the stuff he, Allen, Jake and even their mother pull. It is so real life that I believe everyone can relate to one or the other in a lot of instances.

I have never seen any bloopers in Charlies performance. He seems to know his lines and doesn't stumble and fall like a drunk unless it is in the script, which I have never seen such a scene.

Two and a half men is no more an X or even R rated show than any other family show. Look at the Bill and Judy show, "Standing Still". I love that show as well. Even "Jim knows best" and "Everybody Loves Raymond" are rank at times and questionable. Let's face it people, we live in a fast moving world. I see and hear worse stuff on the evening News.

What ever you do, I wouldn't advise people to let their kids watch Cartoons!

I have quit smoking. Have any of you tried to stop. Well, I'll tell you, you will look and feel just like Charlie Sheen does if you do.

Why do the Networks talk about him like he is a criminal when they are the ones who put him there with almost $2 Million for each and every episode. Who needs that much money per episode? If we made that kind of money we would probably do worse.

Okay so he has Live-in Porn Stars. He is living the life that most men dream. That along could make a young man old in a hurry, but Charlie handles that pretty well. He has handled his affairs so well that most of us have never heard of any of these things they say he does.

Why hasn't his co-stars come forth with tales of his crazy behavior? I would think the cast and other actors in the show would know just how evil and mean he was if it was a question.

Only the media is judging him and condemning him. Charlie is only doing what he can to save face with the evil forces of the media who don't know anything about Charlie Sheen.

The Media is persecuting him more than they did with OJ Simpson for what crime?

Two and a half men does not air on just one network. His show is so popular that it is on at least 3 different channels and at different times. By flipping the channel around Two and a half men can be seen for an hour and a half each night, sometimes longer.

If the media would leave him alone, he wouldn't have to boast about going after them. I can't say much for the lies on the Network Medias but I still watch his shows during the week right on. Only his new shows that haven't been made are canceled.

So... why are the network news medias bad mouthing Charlie Sheen, while the networks are still running his shows? All the people who have their own Fox news shows are speaking out against him. They are so use to inviting people on their show then not letting them talk, that they have become our judge and jury.

Just how STUPID do they think we are?

One last thing. All the parents who don't want their children exposed to filth and off color remarks should think about taking their children out of the public schools.

It seems to me that parents with or without children can rent all the movies of their choice with Net Flic or their local movie rental stores. All they need is a VCR or DVD player and a TV to censor the shows in their home. But you will find your children wanting to go over to ???'s house all the time to study or play!

Charlie Sheen won't get any better until the media leaves him alone to deal with his life. He just had the cops come in and seize his twins from him, so that has to contribute to his attitude. He is hurt and the whole world is against him, so he can only lash back in anger. I am sure his Father will be there for him.

Charlie Sheen has influenced a lot of people, but not to the point that they will follow in his foot steps. Sooner or later, most of the young and old and rich actor and actresses go through a drinking and/or drug problem. Some come through it some don't.

Charlie Sheen is still a good actor and person needing our support, so we need to pray for his recovery not judge and condemn him.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Thu, Mar 3, 2011, at 12:01 PM

Charlie Sheen is an addict in need of help, not enabling nor judgment. He will have to want help however, and in order for him to want help he will have to suffer consequences that are so unbearably painful that he realizes he has run out of options. I am an alcoholic who has been without alcohol or drugs for almost eleven years now, however this has happened a day at a time through application of recovery principles I learned while in treatment for the fifth time. You see, I needed to get sober for a very long time, but I did not become willing to want to be sober until existing in my self-induced hellish nightmare became so painful, I could not withstand even the very thought of living that way another day.

The best thing that ever happened to me was my discovery that God loved me, even when I couldn't love myself.

-- Posted by Tim Lokey on Fri, Mar 4, 2011, at 12:20 PM

Here is my opinion, IF and I am saying IF this one great publicity stunt and he isn't using drugs, then this man is the greatest actor ever!

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Sun, Mar 6, 2011, at 7:25 PM

If publicity is money to the Hollywood folks, then he is rolling in it.

-- Posted by stevemills on Sun, Mar 6, 2011, at 8:40 PM

Here is an example from Komando news letter

"Charlie Sheen has been on a media rampage lately. And companies are cashing in on this crazed celebrity. TwitPics is earning about $1500 in ad revenue for every picture Sheen posts"

-- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Mar 7, 2011, at 6:52 AM

If I made the money Charlie Sheen has, I wouldn't worry about working again. I would just take off somewhere by myself and enjoy life.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Mon, Mar 7, 2011, at 7:23 PM

If nothing else, he has started a raging discussion and awareness of the recovery process.

Very well put, Tim.

-- Posted by cats4me on Thu, Mar 10, 2011, at 7:09 AM

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Steve Mills and his wife have one daughter. They previously owned two coffee/ice cream shops, currently operate an internet sales company and teach classes, but his primary job involves the paper industry worldwide. Hobbies and interests lie in gardening, photography, recorded music and of course, their pets.