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Speed change on 231N. Anyone care to comment?

Posted Tuesday, July 12, 2011, at 8:04 AM

I know a few of you have commented both here and in person, so let's hear it!

I was surprised that they made it 50 and not just keep it 55 from Deason on in to town. 5 miles an hour will not make a big difference in safety.

People coming to the hospital could be distracted regardless of the speed limit. They have an emergency of some type so they are in a rush to get there and/or are thinking about their loved one.

Flashing warning lights, and bold signs might do better to warn other drivers to be careful in the area. Kind of like "Deer Crossing" or "Fog zone". Put up flashing signs that say "Hospital Area please watch for distracted drivers"

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My pet peve is semi's coming out of the Walmart Distrubution center pulling out in the turning lane to wait to enter on to 231, they are blocking the turning lane for anyone wanting to turn on to Frank Martin rd. I had one pull out in front of me just as I was starting to enter the turning lane, luckly I was able to get back in the left lane and go aroung him.

-- Posted by bellbuckletn on Tue, Jul 12, 2011, at 8:53 AM

It doesn't matter what the speed limit is, accidents are still going to happen. Dropping the speed limit from 65 to 50 is a HUGE difference. But truthfully, how many people have you seen actually slowing down? I try to do the 50 but you have to be in the slow lane or you will get ran over.

As for the semis pulling out, that has happened to me a couple of times. A few weeks ago I got into the turning lane only to notice a semi coming up behind in the turning lane because he couldn't wait until I passed to come out, even though no one was coming.

Lowering the speed limit 15 miles, seems to me that the city is just PO'ed because they couldn't get approved for a red light.

-- Posted by PrpleHze on Tue, Jul 12, 2011, at 9:37 AM

Nobody drives 50 in that area. I wish they would put it back to atleast 55 because the speed limit changes SEVERAL times between Shelbyville and Murfreesboro and that is confusing when kids are talking and you might not notice a speed change causing you to get a speeding ticket. I drive in that area a lot and everyone is flying by me like I am sitting still. The speed limit should only change once or twice all the way from Calsonic to Tiger market in Murfreesboro because otherwise it just looks like it is a speed trap to write tickets if the speed limit changes 6 or 8 times between here and there.

-- Posted by AmericanWoman on Tue, Jul 12, 2011, at 10:10 AM

Actually, if it wasn't for the turning lanes, most of the time you can't get out of the side streets onto the main road. LOVE THOSE TURNING LANES!

What they really need to do is make the entrance to Frank Martin road much much wider so semi truckers can turn in when cars are trying to pull out. The semis have to sit in the parking lane until the cars come out to turn in and cars can't pull out because the semis are blocking the view of on coming cars.

That is where the Problem is, if the city and state would have investigated it properly.

They put in a turning lane for the trucks but didn't make the entrance wide enough to turn when in the turning lane. It's ok for cars but not semi trucks.

Can't any of you City/County Commissioners see that?

As far as the truckers coming out and going north, well, they have to get into the turning lane because people won't move to the outer lane to let them on 231.

The DOT should change the turning lane going north from Frank Martin road into a merging lane for the Truckers.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Tue, Jul 12, 2011, at 10:47 AM

It is a 4 lane highway that should be 65. I can't see any benefit with that many different speeds between Shelbyville and Murfreesboro.

I believe it to be more of a problem now with someone going 45-50 and then you look in rear view and someone is coming at you doing 65+.

Use the road for what it was built for to so 65 at least.

I do not go to Shelbyville anymore for anything

just stop in Murfreesboro.

-- Posted by roadrunner on Tue, Jul 12, 2011, at 11:11 AM

It is the nuts! Why not keep it 55 it is 65 55 50 50 45 everything in between I am sure there is a sign in there somethere that says 52 or something.

-- Posted by Thatsmystory on Tue, Jul 12, 2011, at 11:54 AM

Maybe they should have made the bypass start closer to Murfreesboro so it could by pass some of the speed limit nonsense as well as Shelbyville Businesses.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Tue, Jul 12, 2011, at 5:57 PM

Well, I've been waiting for an article to appear in the paper, but I guess that's not going to happen. (Or for all I know, I missed it. But it's not been online and I can't pay for the paper.)

I, too, have taken my business to M'boro. I'm not going to be the one run over by the one's not doing the speed limit nor am I going to be one of the "few" that get pulled "keeping up" with the one's not doing the speed limit.

City Council: All you are hurting is the businesses that are going to loose the business the people are taking to M'boro...but I guess you don't care. Because YOU couldn't get your way with the state to get your light.

For as long as their are stupid drivers, ie...texting, applying makeup, driving slow in the fast-er lane, etc, you are going to have stupid accidents. Speed is not going to change that. You can't fix STUPID!

-- Posted by neighborhood mom on Wed, Jul 13, 2011, at 9:24 AM


-- Posted by wildflower727 on Wed, Jul 13, 2011, at 9:37 AM

My problem was always with those people who went 70-80 and got mad at those of us doing the speed limit.

4 lane doesn't automatically mean the speed should increase especially with so many businesses. Maybe more research should have been done before they were allowed to build (including the hospital) and I don't understand why they keep telling Grady Cunningham that he can't operate a business at his house. They are allowing everyone else to operate all that junk out that way and I thought that was where he was asking for an allowance.

There actually was an article in the paper not too long ago stating the speed would be lowered but I don't know why 50 was picked. I haven't had too many problems with the semis--just the speeders on my bumper!.

-- Posted by tbdyer on Wed, Jul 13, 2011, at 11:08 AM

Maybe they are preparing the way for electric cars or cars that can't go 100-150 MPH. What was that all about? Why make cars that will go fast if you can only drive 55?

Accidents happen. That is why they call them accidents. They are just accidents.

Going slower gives the Council men the impression you have more time to stop when your not paying attention.

All that was needed was a flashing light for emergency vehicles entering the highway and a wider turning entrance on Frank Martin Rd. and a merging north bound lane for semi trucks.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Wed, Jul 13, 2011, at 11:12 AM

When I turn on 231 heading for Shelbyville, I just set my cruise control to 50 MPH. I know it will drop to 50 MPH so I just set it there to begin with.

I get over in the slow lane and do my 50 MPH and let all you speeders go one around me.

What I hate, is when I set it at 50 and have to pass someone going slower who will ALWAYS speed up as I am trying to pass at 50 MPH making me fall in behind them again.

I firmly believe that I could set my cruise control to 70 MPH and people would fly around me.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Thu, Jul 14, 2011, at 3:26 PM

You mention an interesting phenomna. Many DO seem to speed up when you are passing.

Except for those who INTENTIONALLY do it, I think there might be some physics involved, especially if both of the speeds are within 5-10 miles of each other.

Some of you physics people help me out here, but I think as one car passes the other, it breaks the wind resistence of the other which causes it to have LESS resistance and therefore speed up.

Likewise, once it is in front, the back car not only has less resistance but is actually "pulled" by vacuum. This is why some folks ride right on the butt of tractor trailers hoping to reduce their fuel conaumption.

Then again, maybe there is a reason I did poorly in Physics and I am way off base. Anyone confirm or deny my ramblings?

You won't hurt my feelings. I know I am challenged in this area.

-- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Jul 15, 2011, at 3:10 PM

You did good Steve. You are part right anyway.

I have been guilty of what I just complained about. When we are driving, I think we get hypnotized to some degree and are not paying attention. Either the radio is on, passenger talking or just staring out in front of you. It just comes atuomatic to speed up when you see a car going around you. You get the idea from somewhere that you are slowing down.

That happens at red lights sometimes. A car will start creeping up beside me and the first thing I do is push harder on my brakes, thinking I am rolling backwards.

Optical illusions have that effect on people.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Fri, Jul 15, 2011, at 3:26 PM

Maybe many motorists on 231 North feel they are more likely to be hit by another vehicle if they take their eyes off the traffic to look slight to their right for posted speed limit changes.

-- Posted by bomelson on Sat, Jul 16, 2011, at 2:40 PM

I've said it before; give it another 5 or 10 years and it will be 45 mph all the way to Murfreesboro. After Wal-Mart, a large majority of businesses moved north. Since the new hospital was built (way too far north of the city limits in my opinion), more businesses will move even farther north.

What does this accomplish? Nothing except killing downtown Shelbyville commerce.

And now they have lowered the speed limit to 50mph to a hospital that was built 4 miles north of the city limits. Rediculous. Speed trap.

I guess the next step is to add a few stop lights...

-- Posted by espoontoon on Mon, Jul 18, 2011, at 6:38 AM

If there is any justification for the lower speed, perhaps those "in charge" should provide the public with multiple studies that prove why such a drastic change is necessary.

I can't tell you how many people have said, why not just leave it at 55mph from Calsonic till you get over the hill in Deason. There is simply no explanation for the extreme variance, and multiple changes in the 25 mile stretch from Shelbyville to Murfreesboro. This is more than likely a direct result of the public's despise for new taxes to pay for things, so they took it upon themselves to squeeze money from those who have traveled the same 65mph for more than a decade.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Tue, Aug 2, 2011, at 7:20 PM

Who would be THE person to have the information on that decision? Maybe someone could get them to comment?

-- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Aug 3, 2011, at 6:53 AM

Oh well, at least you can speed up to 55 mph as you take the 2 lane bypass around the city and all of its commercial Businesses.

You know what? That sounds like something king Obama would do to destroy Shelbyville's economy.

-- Posted by Unique-Lies on Fri, Aug 5, 2011, at 10:11 AM

How many years was the limit at 65 MPH? I do see that the police are enforcing the new lower speed limit with great vigor. It seems every time I drive between Wal Mart and the Hospital that I see some poor soul (speeder) being bilked for what is likely to be his last few dollars. As if the government hasn't already taken our last few dollars. This new lower speed limit appears to be no more than a very profitable money making program. Come on folks, this is a four lane hwy. and a long stretch of mostly open country, let us return to the old speed limit before we all die from boredom. Perhaps officials are hoping to attract new businesses to this area by lowering the speed limit? This makes me curious as to how many officials instrumental in this speed limit change have investments in frontage properties on this stretch of 231?

-- Posted by Bronk on Sat, Sep 3, 2011, at 12:48 AM

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Steve Mills and his wife have one daughter. They previously owned two coffee/ice cream shops, currently operate an internet sales company and teach classes, but his primary job involves the paper industry worldwide. Hobbies and interests lie in gardening, photography, recorded music and of course, their pets.